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Hi guys,
I just bought my Xperia S two days ago outright and unlocked. ($484AUD from JB HI FI for you Aussies reading). My first smartphone was a Samsung Galaxy S back in 2010. I loved that phone - I flashed custom roms, customised the crap out of it, and all that. At the end of 2010, my company gave me an iPhone4 and I was required to use that exclusively - so I sold my Galaxy S on eBay. I've been using the iPhone4 ever since that point, but I missed my Android experience so much that I spent my money on the Xperia S just two days ago.
The reason I purchased the Xperia S is because I really dislike/despise Apple products, especially the iPhone.. Every time I looked at it I felt annoyed and disgusted by its lack of customisability and its lame user interface.
Having shared that with you, I'm having the following issue with the phone…
My graphics always seem to lag/chop/stutter when things are moving around. It's not fluid. This happens when:
• Swiping the lock icon to the right, on the homescreen. (it sorta micro-stutters at least once during the movement animation)
• When swiping through homescreens
• When scrolling up/down a menu (especially the settings menu in the browser).
• Scrolling or zooming in/out in the browser… its just not fluid at all, no matter how complex or basic the website is, flash or no flash.
It feels like CPU/GPU lag. Does anyone else have this issue? I'm pretty anal when it comes to seeing animations run smoothly so it's possible that it happens to all of you, but you just don’t perceive it or care about it -- or maybe its just my phone. I don’t know!
Also I notice that the touch responsiveness is delayed by about 100ms… Anyone else get that? (e.g. Load up the browser. Use your finger to swipe/scroll down the page, and see how there is a delay between when your finger moves and when the page moves.
I've read some people say that their browser runs "Buttery Smooth"… !! Mine is no where near smooth let buttery smooth!
I'm hoping that the coming ICS release will help with this issue, but I'm also surprised that I see no one else complaining about this graphics stuttering. I mean, my old Galaxy S in 2010 was smoother than this and it was only single-core at 1Ghz with 512 RAM.
Some technical details:
Batch: 12W19
Build: 6.0.A.3.73
I've uninstalled all the Sony bloatware that lets me uninstall.
I've tried without a live wallpaper
I've not tried any task killers.
I really like the quality of the screen and want to love the phone, but this speed/performance issue is really bumming me out ;/
So, do you 'xperience this too?
Thanks for your time,
Termus
Use it a few day and it'll stable than now! It's my experience with all Xperias like X10, Arc!
Or maybe try a factory reset and reboot the phone few times.
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Thanks guys, i'll give it some more time and reset it.
But i just wonder, is your browser experience nice and smooth? Maybe my hopes are too high, but i'd like to confirm them
Yes the browser and everything is smooth.
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Thanks guys, i'll give it some more time and reset it.
But i just wonder, is your browser experience nice and smooth? Maybe my hopes are too high, but i'd like to confirm them
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No mine is not, and I'm experiencing the same "all-around lag" that you see.
My device has locked bootloader (i'm waiting the ICS update to unlock it, especially coz I need to send it back to Sony due to the yellow tint display) and I hope ICS update will fix this horrible thing before the moment I'll choose to sell my device (really, I don't complain this things, coming from an early2011 SGS2).
PS. BTW I've got enough free ram to run everything smoothly, so it is not Sony-bloatware related.
Ok, while it's sad that you also experience this slowness it's good that someone else has 'fessed up to having it as well.
It makes me wonder... All of these devices are "made" the same, i.e. they have the same hardware. Why would some operate smoothly and others not? It's either that our devices are slow or the everyone else is in deep denial.
If the ICS update doesn't improve my handset's fluidity of graphics I'll probably sell it. I want my Android experience to be silky smooth, and if that's not possible yet, i'll just wait!
Termus said:
Ok, while it's sad that you also experience this slowness it's good that someone else has 'fessed up to having it as well.
It makes me wonder... All of these devices are "made" the same, i.e. they have the same hardware. Why would some operate smoothly and others not? It's either that our devices are slow or the everyone else is in deep denial.
If the ICS update doesn't improve my handset's fluidity of graphics I'll probably sell it. I want my Android experience to be silky smooth, and if that's not possible yet, i'll just wait!
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This. Or they come from really lagghish terminals so we could have different ideas of what "smooth" could mean, but generally 70% doesn't admit the thing they bought is not as good as they think.
Maybe because you came from an iPhone which has pretty smooth animations compared to some Android phones. My iPod Touch feels slightly smoother than my Xperia S, albeit the slower scrolling.
i kinda forgot bout the stock rom experience, but i surely remember there's no such thing as the lockscreen's slider lag and touch responsiveness is delayed (and 100 ms? really? do you, yourself, have some measurement devices or something?)
now im in doomkernel and ka05.2 sspeed and all the things that u mentioned didnt happened. well, i maybe come from very-very-very-slow phone (LG GT540), but even my friend who has iphone 4s for awhile said that the animations and the smoothness in my phone (XS, ofc) is really smooth, almost the same as his iphone. even with some widgets here and there (his iphone doesnt have widgets, well duh!) and i feel the same too (but what do i know right?)
and he even likes it better browsing with phone rather than his iphone. though i gotta admit than i use the stock browser rarely, i usually use opera mini because of my crappy mobile network's speed. but they both works really well and smooth (pinching, zooming, scrolling)
but though i agree that smoothness is something that cant be measured, it's really objective thing, and maybe my friend just said that because of his kindness to not insult me or something, idk and i dont really care, for me it's just as smooth as his iphone.
so my verdict: your stock rom has issues (though most unlikely), the custom rom has some kind improvement (well ofc, but to have even lag in lockscreen it's kinda really bad for stock rom), there are some apps that make that lags in your rom, or you have faulty phone, you came from the future where everything is at light speed.
do u see the ics leaked video for XS? and how bout your gaming 'xperience?
Try installing MyPhoneExplorer on the phone and let the MyPhoneExplorer PC client monitor the cpu usage in realtime.
so when the lag happend, look at the pc monitor. does the cpu usage spike to 100%?
I have the Samsung S6 Edge t-mobile 64gb sapphire and it's been 11 days already . I'm starting to notice some hiccups and lags , between switching apps, tabs and keyboard input lags. It's pretty annoying.
Restart phone..
been doing that since the lag. it's seems there is some underlying culprit. lol. I really don't know...kinda sucks for a brand new expensive smartphone.
hatyrei said:
been doing that since the lag. it's seems there is some underlying culprit. lol. I really don't know...kinda sucks for a brand new expensive smartphone.
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turn off internet and wifi..if its better theres an app that want always net...also facebook is very ram hungry...look for such apps...if not find reset the phone...most times its ok after that...
Having same issue. I'm using clean master app and helps. Not sure if that app is good or not. Hangouts lags to open when I get a notification. Can a theme cause this?
It Does LAG!
Your not alone! i experience lag a lot and its annoying considering i payed $1000 for a phone that lags! i do hope there is an update otherwise i will have to go back to iPhone 6 Plus or maybe even wait for 6s Plus!!
I know right?.... I just hate it when the keyboard lags like hell.... been closing applications everytime....so that it will minimize the lag occurrence. kinda sucks.
hatyrei said:
I know right?.... I just hate it when the keyboard lags like hell.... been closing applications everytime....so that it will minimize the lag occurrence. kinda sucks.
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Everyone with lags...just reflash stock firmware using Kies or smartswitch. My S6 Edge lagged initially. I'm rooted. I'm using the ZiDroid stock recovery. I had wrongly deleted knox files with root explorer making my phone unbootable. I followed the directions of using the kies method *before smartswitch* method and the full on firmware restore killed any lags I initially had. BTW, the Kies method had the OTA update built in.
I'm running stock. not rooted. But with lags.
I agree, I bought the phone because there are so many positive review saying there's literally no lag at all..which is not true
This is TW, and it's TW we all knew, it remind me of my note ii, at least before I flashed it with omniRom
it's lag free initially when no app installed, but after few days of use, stutter just become more obvious
I know i can solve it with phone restart or even factory reset, but that's not how 2015 smart phone should behave, nor justifiable with the price
The TW animation just plane bad compare to stock lollipop, and the stutter just pop out here and there
I'm more than happy to give up all samsung feature in exchange of pure lollipop experience, but unfortunately it's not available yet
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Docmjldds said:
Everyone with lags...just reflash stock firmware using Kies or smartswitch. My S6 Edge lagged initially. I'm rooted. I'm using the ZiDroid stock recovery. I had wrongly deleted knox files with root explorer making my phone unbootable. I followed the directions of using the kies method *before smartswitch* method and the full on firmware restore killed any lags I initially had. BTW, the Kies method had the OTA update built in.
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May i ask is there a tutorial or youtube link that shows how to reflash stock firmware using Kies or smartswitch?
I may give it a try to refresh my firmware to see if it helps or not
for now, the scroll lag in chrome/play store, delay in pulling down notification and occasional keyboard stutter really annoys me like hell
I have no lag per say the only problems I have is keyboard lag every now and again and redraws. I switched to Nova launcher and get much less redraws. I think that somehow the problem has more to do with lollipop than touchwiz because I had no lag at all on my note 4, until lollipop.
Coming from an HTC One M8 - My phone at times seems slower that this.
Albeit, I do use S Health, Fit bit and some other ram hunger items i guess.
Even when I clean the ram - I still only have less than 10% free!
After having a Note 3 i thougt stepping up to a Note 4 would improve in speed, it didnt, tw was extremely sluggish, lag was laughable with The killerspecs of The Note 4. Flashed a AOSP on my Note 3, fluid as hell! So i sold my new note 4 (0x0 knox), glad i got rid of it!!
Im never gonna buy a Sammy AGAIN, so AGAIN killer specs of The s6 and still lag, its junk!
TW, bloatware, stupid gimmicks are still the big problem!
Be smart, dont go for gimmicks that at first look good, but in reality you never use them..
Buy a Nexus 6, flash a Nice ROM, some mods, decent kernel, enjoy your fluid device!!
(Nexus 6 without contract 450 euro here, half The amount of a 899 s6 edge)
After downloading and installing the google keyboard from the play store, all keyboard lag I had experienced is gone. I think it has to be something with the preloaded keyboard(s) on the system because as soon as I disabled the other two keyboards (samsung and swipe) that were preinstalled and installed the google keyboard, no more lag.
Samsung galaxy edge s6 64gb lag
Just got Samsung galaxy edge s6 64gb and the keyboard lags so annoying
Da15hanx said:
Just got Samsung galaxy edge s6 64gb and the keyboard lags so annoying
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install the google one and wait for the, 5.1.1 update
After root and installing a custom ROM I have not had one bit of stutter.
The only app that occasionally lags is Fleksy, a third party keyboard
Im with google keyboard and it lags terribly, to the point that I need to wait 2-3 seconds between chararcters!!! I had S1, nexus 4, nexus 5 and this device is simply amazingly bad. keyboard lag on a 2015 flagship??? unbelievable. Never going to buy samsung again. After 3 beautiful years with the nexuses, Im considering flashing roms again. sad.
BTW, keyboards legs are not the only legs. I have wallpaper scrolling issues, switching apps issues and so on. Does anybody know if there's a tutorial out there to stop all bloatware and manage memory? Might be better trying to control whats running before starting to flash roms.
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I'm running stock. not rooted. But with lags.
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I'm running stock, removed briefing, deleted some of the pre op installed apps and the only lag I find is the keyboard now and then. Irritating nevertheless.
Turning off vibrate on keypresses seems to help a lot.
Hey there,
I have searched around the forum and actually tried one rom for the alcatel 3.5 (model 4009x) but it just made the phone even slower than it original is.
My main issue is speed with this phone. I am using it temporary since i sold my Pixel phone and sent away my s7 edge for insurance, im stuck with this.
For the price, it is not bad. However, the performance (speed wise) is unbearable, even on a fresh reset.
i was wondering if anyone can redirect me to any roms that focuses on enabling more speed and performance on this phone or any advice on how to speed it up? All i require is access to my google account and whatsapp and some other few apps. It will be a temp phone but boy, is it slow...
Thanks!
I have a Samsung Galaxy S9+ Snapdragon on AT&T. Currently on android 9 / one-ui 1.0 / kernel 4.9.112-17018887 / build PPR1.180610.011.G965U1UES7CSK2 / December 1st 2019 security patch
Considering letting it upgrade further, notably to One UI 2 / Android 10
I've seen some stuff about memory leaks? I'm worried about getting locked into a bad upgrade that will make my phone worse
What's the consensus? Are the current builds for Snapdragon stable?
Also, will I lose access to any features / apps? I was very pissed off when the previous update to the camera got rid of Pro Video mode permanently, am I going to lose features like that in this new update?
I did the update few weeks ago and I have to say I'm really disappointed. Maybe it's just my case but my phone slowed down really hard. I have to wait a few seconds to unlock my screen, apps are shutting down randomly on their own, everything looks like the phone is under some hard throttling. I'll only add that I have no root, and my ROM is OFW.
Cheers
Best is to stay with Oreo like I do. Best decision ever. No missing features and no ugly UI
You guys are nuts. 2 ui has been awesome on my device. I get 5 to 6 hours of sot on a 2 year old device. The ui is not ugly between good lock and a few other things fully customized how I like it. I don't know about pie features. So I don't know if something's missing. But there are no complaints on my end from a g9650
true that. 2 ui has been great on my s9+. no problems at all. everything is nice and quick, no slowdowns whatsoever.
but i guess it depends on how one uses his phone and what kind of apps and settings keeps on it.
too many variables to mention.
Yeah definitely. 10 is every bit as good as pie or better. UI is a slightly more refined. There are always people out there that say these updates ruin their performance and battery life but I never see what they are talking about, they also never offer up any proof of their claims. Just want something to complain about I guess.
I recommend upgrading to one ui 2.0, my S9 feels a lot snappier and more refined, also the camera is improved especially the HDR. And the added screen recording feature is very useful.
In my opinion it's not that great, they've changed things that didn't need a fix and added few bugs for that
Camera quality in my case is actually worse than on a9
I don't know about the battery, honestly feels the same
Didn't also slow down or anything, but sometimes everything just feels wanky
Waiting now for OneUI 2.1, hoping they'll fix those things otherwise I'm going to be disappointed as hell
So, being the phone nerd that I am, I have no idea how I never knew about this phone till now. So! Id like to ask all of you, who have the phone, is it still worth it? Are you happy with your purchase? Did you switch to the ROG Phone 3 or the Note 20 Ultra? Hows the OS? I like to customize my phone alot so, remove any and all bloatware, root the phone and perhaps install a custom rom, etc. Is any of that possible on this phone? Ill be honest! I really just want this phone for its 7.1 inch screen. I previously had the Huawei Mate 20 X so, this looks like a very welcome upgrade. So what are your thoughts on this phone, please share?
I have BS3Pro china device. flash to global rom and this is my opinions.
What I like about this phone :
- Huge display for read cartoon/ watch some video
- beautiful 90hz screen that make my cartoon reading feel great when scroll down to next page
- Great gaming experience here
- Battery is great (if not do a "lot" of gaming) (pubg 90fps can do around 4hr before phone died)
- Fast battery charging from 0% to 100% with around 1hr
What I'm not impressive about this phone:
- Camera focusing(not autofocus) is not done they work. miss focus 80% of time
- Speaker is not loud enough. if you need to race a sound with noisy place, You will hear little sound of your phone.
- Speaker quality is decent. Not great but not worse either
- fingerprint scanner will not work if your screen have a little dirty or oily
The worst part of this phone:
- Software update(Global rom) is very slow. This phone still have miui11 and the last update is probably 2 month ago(if i'm not wrong)
- Lack of community.
- No hope for custom rom.
Summary. this is a good phone that used by few people(I assum). That's make the manufacturer lower the priority in term of software update. and blackshark company didn't have space for custom rom for their phone.
You can still unlock bootloader and install custom recovery for rooting your phone. But no custom rom were made for this phone here.
If you don't mind about custom rom, frequent software update, lack of community to discuss. this is a good phone if your prefer big one.
Phone would be worth it $400 now. ZERO updates coming, xiaomi has abandoned the BS3pro, especially the global model
I love it. If you're rooted you can customise it using swift installer, and a few other apps that work like the audio headquarters, viper, and superstatus bar, CustoMiuizer, etc. I use the Samsung notifications shade etc.
Though I wish there were ways to update the phone since I can't get update to install since I'm rooted.
Other than that. I love it. Just wish it had 120hz
tried any GSIs?
like Mitku01 said, the phone is great. You don't find a better phone with a big screen.
Global support is bad. My Black Shark 3 Pro is still on security patch 2020-06-05.