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I'm interested in purchasing one, but for $500 and midrange specs it really needs to deliver on the screen for me. How is it? Im not so much concerned with resolution as much as precise color calibration thats not washed out or too warm/cold.
how does it look for you guys?
s1lenz said:
I'm interested in purchasing one, but for $500 and midrange specs it really needs to deliver on the screen for me. How is it? Im not so much concerned with resolution as much as precise color calibration thats not washed out or too warm/cold.
how does it look for you guys?
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Well, this is not a midrange tablet, is a high end, don't get confused because is using the Snapdragon S4 Pro instead of the S600, there are not tablets that perform better than this one, also 2GB RAM, 1200p resolution (1920x1200), NFC, IR Port, Bluetooth 4.0, Dual Band WIFI a/b/g/n, microsd card slot upto 64GB. Check this review for more details about performance.
Also the screen is pretty good, has good viewing angles, great brightness, and pictures/videos looks awesome, the touch panel is very sensitive.
I'll see about getting some data when I get mine (should be Monday.) I don't have the fanciest calibration tools but good enough for the basics we're taking about here. I also have a calibrated desktop setup as well as a pile of other tablets and phones to compare to for subjective analysis.
This is not a midrange tablet. This is top of market right now.
I payed 700 for it. Plus another 150 on my country's customs. And it really really worth it.
When you have it on your hands, is just perfect!
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sorry guys, i don't mean to offend but when I say midrange i mean:
- the resolution is still 1200p vs 1600p on the nexus 10
- the s4 chip, as great as it is, is devoured by the exynos 5250 in benchmarks which is in the nexus 10 (http://www.androidauthority.com/exynos-5-dual-benchmarks-125134/ reference)
when you're talking purely features (waterproof, lightest 10" tablet on the market, solid build, ir port, nfc, sd card slot, sim card lot) yes, you're right its top of the line. but as far as hardware specs go, to put it in perspective the next nexus 7 will either have an s4 pro or a 600 with the same resolution and cost roughly $300 less.
why does hardware matter? aren't those just numbers we geek over? well, often times manufacturers will push higher resolution screens on soc's that just aren't up to the task for it.
Like I said, I don't mind paying for the premium as I dont care about the resolution but I'm just concerned about the color accuracy. do the colors look washed out? is it like the nexus 7 and the nexus 10 which both have ips and (i forget samsung's proprietary panel used for the n10, which is supposively better then IPS), but in the end doesnt really matter because both screens are so horribly calibrated that its wasted?
the thing I'm actually pretty stoked about with this tablet running the S4 is that franco and paranoid android were able to create a nexus 4 color calibration kernel which works miracles for that screen. Coincidentally, thats the same chip used on the Z. I'm not sure how much support this tablet will have, but if Franco takes interest, the Xperia Z's screen will look spectacular after a color tweak...
I really hope the whites on mine aren't too warm. I would hate to turn this thing on and see it with that layer of pee-yellow on top that my 1st gen iPad and Galaxy Nexus suffered from.
As you said n10 screen got its own issues. There is question if there is need for such ppi in large devices we don't tend to hold close to face. And i wonder if future devices will chase after resolution knowing the price (atm there are only 3 android 10" tablets with HD+ screens. Color wise its very nice, warmer but not oversaturated like Samsung. However to know how it does compared to others we need to wait for RGB replication test.
In terms of speed XTZ is ahead of N10 in cpu (except single thread apps) raw power. N10 does better in browser test due to google optimalisation (in chrome or 4.2 i don't know). Mali is stronger raw what off-screen tests show. However on-screen n10 extreeme resolution works against it puting it behind http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tablet_z-review-931p5.php .
So atm its high end, it wont be when tegra4 an s800 hit market.
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sorry guys, i don't mean to offend but when I say midrange i mean:
- the resolution is still 1200p vs 1600p on the nexus 10
- the s4 chip, as great as it is, is devoured by the exynos 5250 in benchmarks which is in the nexus 10 (http://www.androidauthority.com/exynos-5-dual-benchmarks-125134/ reference)
when you're talking purely features (waterproof, lightest 10" tablet on the market, solid build, ir port, nfc, sd card slot, sim card lot) yes, you're right its top of the line. but as far as hardware specs go, to put it in perspective the next nexus 7 will either have an s4 pro or a 600 with the same resolution and cost roughly $300 less.
why does hardware matter? aren't those just numbers we geek over? well, often times manufacturers will push higher resolution screens on soc's that just aren't up to the task for it.
Like I said, I don't mind paying for the premium as I dont care about the resolution but I'm just concerned about the color accuracy. do the colors look washed out? is it like the nexus 7 and the nexus 10 which both have ips and (i forget samsung's proprietary panel used for the n10, which is supposively better then IPS), but in the end doesnt really matter because both screens are so horribly calibrated that its wasted?
the thing I'm actually pretty stoked about with this tablet running the S4 is that franco and paranoid android were able to create a nexus 4 color calibration kernel which works miracles for that screen. Coincidentally, thats the same chip used on the Z. I'm not sure how much support this tablet will have, but if Franco takes interest, the Xperia Z's screen will look spectacular after a color tweak...
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A few things:
1. The S4 chip in the XTZ is actually more powerful than the Exynos 5250 Dual in the Nexus 10. The S4 in the link you used is a dual core MSM8960. The S4 chip in the XTZ is a quad core APQ8064. Coupled with the higher res of the Nexus 10, the performance of the Nexus 10 would be behind the XTZ.
2. This is a 10" tablet. Comparing it to the much faster paced 7" tablet market wouldn't make much sense, furthermore normally people get 10" tablets for different reasons than getting 7" tablets. While this is of course debatable, it would be more accurate to compare to up-and-coming 10" tablets like the new Tegra 4 tablets, which aren't slated to be released until Q3 2013 at least.
3. Screen-wise, I can't really comment since I don't have the XTZ yet (getting one on Thursday once it is released in my country). According to the reviews I read though, the colours are nice and sharp, and the screen has quite good viewing angles due to the gapless technology used in the screen. Quoted from androidpolice (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/31/sony-xperia-tablet-z-review-a-surprisingly-good-tablet/):
The front of the Xperia Tablet Z is dominated by a 10.1-inch 1920x1200 LED-backlit LCD “Bravia Reality Display.” The Bravia-branded stuff is a post-processing engine for video and images, but the difference is extremely subtle. That’s not the important aspect of this panel anyway – more relevant is how it looks. In a word: good.
If I hold the Tablet Z uncomfortably close to my face, I can definitely see the pixels, but that doesn’t matter – you’ll never use a tablet like that. At a normal viewing distance – say 18-inches – the screen looks crisp and clear. Text is extremely readable and the pixels melt into lovely, fluid images. Because this is a gapless display, the viewing angles are much better than its smartphone counterpart.
The black levels are good on this device – better than the Nexus 7, for example. Below roughly 50% brightness, the blacks stay inky, but past that it starts getting a bit gray. It’s a far cry from AMOLED blacks, but it is above average when compared to other LCD panels (at least in my estimation).
We fetishize pixel density maybe a little too much. Having a higher resolution is great, but not at the expense of performance. This screen gets the job done, and does it well. You don’t need to stress about the raw resolution numbers being lower on the Tablet Z than the Nexus 10.
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4. It is possible Sony may include the white balance setting in Settings just like the Xperia Z. Other devs may of course implement this feature as well.
I saw one on display in a shop. The screen is very impressive, best android tablet screen I've seen so far. Not seen the Nexus 10 screen, but I've read enough about it's light bleed issues.
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I saw one on display in a shop. The screen is very impressive, best android tablet screen I've seen so far. Not seen the Nexus 10 screen, but I've read enough about it's light bleed issues.
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I'd say the screen is quite similar to the nexus 7. Its not as good as the TF700 but its perfectly satisfactory.
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A few things:
1. The S4 chip in the XTZ is actually more powerful than the Exynos 5250 Dual in the Nexus 10. The S4 in the link you used is a dual core MSM8960. The S4 chip in the XTZ is a quad core APQ8064. Coupled with the higher res of the Nexus 10, the performance of the Nexus 10 would be behind the XTZ.
2. This is a 10" tablet. Comparing it to the much faster paced 7" tablet market wouldn't make much sense, furthermore normally people get 10" tablets for different reasons than getting 7" tablets. While this is of course debatable, it would be more accurate to compare to up-and-coming 10" tablets like the new Tegra 4 tablets, which aren't slated to be released until Q3 2013 at least.
3. Screen-wise, I can't really comment since I don't have the XTZ yet (getting one on Thursday once it is released in my country). According to the reviews I read though, the colours are nice and sharp, and the screen has quite good viewing angles due to the gapless technology used in the screen. Quoted from androidpolice (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/31/sony-xperia-tablet-z-review-a-surprisingly-good-tablet/):
4. It is possible Sony may include the white balance setting in Settings just like the Xperia Z. Other devs may of course implement this feature as well.
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Thanks for this, you bring up some excellent points. I'm going to take a wait-and-see approach to see if Franco or Faux will take any interest in this tablet and develop a kernel for it. Unfortunately, for that to happen I think the community is going to have to pool together some cash, like they did for the Oppo Find5...
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A few things:
1. The S4 chip in the XTZ is actually more powerful than the Exynos 5250 Dual in the Nexus 10. The S4 in the link you used is a dual core MSM8960. The S4 chip in the XTZ is a quad core APQ8064. Coupled with the higher res of the Nexus 10, the performance of the Nexus 10 would be behind the XTZ.
2. This is a 10" tablet. Comparing it to the much faster paced 7" tablet market wouldn't make much sense, furthermore normally people get 10" tablets for different reasons than getting 7" tablets. While this is of course debatable, it would be more accurate to compare to up-and-coming 10" tablets like the new Tegra 4 tablets, which aren't slated to be released until Q3 2013 at least.
3. Screen-wise, I can't really comment since I don't have the XTZ yet (getting one on Thursday once it is released in my country). According to the reviews I read though, the colours are nice and sharp, and the screen has quite good viewing angles due to the gapless technology used in the screen. Quoted from androidpolice (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/31/sony-xperia-tablet-z-review-a-surprisingly-good-tablet/):
4. It is possible Sony may include the white balance setting in Settings just like the Xperia Z. Other devs may of course implement this feature as well.
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1. I had believed in benchmarks before I used the N10 (and some chance with N7 also), Antutu and especially Quadrant are garbage. However, I still believe in the traditional benchmarks like Geekbench, Sunspider or BrowserMark (I don't use chrome, intead Ocean Browser and Dolphin which is not Google optimization and the browser benchmarks are superior). My friend bought the Tablet Z and it is somehow laggier than N10 and N7. I know we can blame the UI for it, but even it lauching apps, N7 and N10 are blazing fast.
In the real world performance, N10 (throttling fixed) > Tablet Z
3. Yes it's nice and sharp indeed, much better than XZ smartphone. The viewing angle is very good but still slightly worse than iPad 4 or N10. Texts are crisp, not as sharp as iPad 4 and N10 when comparing besides but it's satisfying when used stand alone.
Some extra opinions:
- In my country, 16GB 3G Tablet Z costs about $950 (with some stuff like external speakers and headphones which equivalent to ~$150), while 16GB N10 (shipped from other countries) costs $460
- The audio from speaker on Xperia Z is bad for a tablet, considering Youtube, movies are used frequently on tablets. The two front facing stereo speakers of N10 are not as good and Note 10.1 but still very inspiring.
- The lightweight is extremely lovable on Tablet Z. I felt a little bit hard when coming black to my not very heavy N10.
The screen is great. I was a little bit worried about it not being as high ppi as iPad/etc. I ordered it without seeing it.
I am completely happy with the screen. Colors, viewing angles are all very good. I even turned off the mobile Bravia engine.
If you are worried about the ppi/color anything, don't be. Screen is great.
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1. I had believed in benchmarks before I used the N10 (and some chance with N7 also), Antutu and especially Quadrant are garbage. However, I still believe in the traditional benchmarks like Geekbench, Sunspider or BrowserMark (I don't use chrome, intead Ocean Browser and Dolphin which is not Google optimization and the browser benchmarks are superior). My friend bought the Tablet Z and it is somehow laggier than N10 and N7. I know we can blame the UI for it, but even it lauching apps, N7 and N10 are blazing fast.
In the real world performance, N10 (throttling fixed) > Tablet Z
3. Yes it's nice and sharp indeed, much better than XZ smartphone. The viewing angle is very good but still slightly worse than iPad 4 or N10. Texts are crisp, not as sharp as iPad 4 and N10 when comparing besides but it's satisfying when used stand alone.
Some extra opinions:
- In my country, 16GB 3G Tablet Z costs about $950 (with some stuff like external speakers and headphones which equivalent to ~$150), while 16GB N10 (shipped from other countries) costs $460
- The audio from speaker on Xperia Z is bad for a tablet, considering Youtube, movies are used frequently on tablets. The two front facing stereo speakers of N10 are not as good and Note 10.1 but still very inspiring.
- The lightweight is extremely lovable on Tablet Z. I felt a little bit hard when coming black to my not very heavy N10.
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For me, I don't really look at benchmarks. They're after all synthetic. Even browser benchmarks are affected far more by the Javascript engine behind it than the hardware. Chrome runs terribly in Sunspider and the like, while the stock browser with the Nexus 10 runs very fast, benchmark-wise. However I would much rather use Chrome than the stock browser app any day because of its usability
As for UI, I'm going to take the Tablet Z for a spin before I get it, see how fluid (or not) it is. I'm most probably getting it unless there are showstopper bugs - Nexus 10 is not available in my country, and the Exynos 5 Dual is simply not powerful enough to power the screen imo.
I'll post a review of it if (once) I get it. Going to touch on some of the concerns I see here I'll probably draw some comparisons to the other tablets I've used as well (Asus TF201, Nexus 7, Xperia Tablet S). Granted, they're previous gen but they provide a point of comparison
ABT4 said:
The screen is great. I was a little bit worried about it not being as high ppi as iPad/etc. I ordered it without seeing it.
I am completely happy with the screen. Colors, viewing angles are all very good. I even turned off the mobile Bravia engine.
If you are worried about the ppi/color anything, don't be. Screen is great.
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I did the same thing and I'm a little worried. June 6th release, this comment is making me more at ease though.
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For me, I don't really look at benchmarks. They're after all synthetic. Even browser benchmarks are affected far more by the Javascript engine behind it than the hardware. Chrome runs terribly in Sunspider and the like, while the stock browser with the Nexus 10 runs very fast, benchmark-wise. However I would much rather use Chrome than the stock browser app any day because of its usability
As for UI, I'm going to take the Tablet Z for a spin before I get it, see how fluid (or not) it is. I'm most probably getting it unless there are showstopper bugs - Nexus 10 is not available in my country, and the Exynos 5 Dual is simply not powerful enough to power the screen imo.
I'll post a review of it if (once) I get it. Going to touch on some of the concerns I see here I'll probably draw some comparisons to the other tablets I've used as well (Asus TF201, Nexus 7, Xperia Tablet S). Granted, they're previous gen but they provide a point of comparison
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I'm in the same boat. Nexus 10 16GB costs more than the latest 16GB iPad. After being blown away by everything about the tablet and how much better it is, imo, than the Nexus 10, it was a no brainer since it's the same price as the 16GB iPad. Plus I picked up a 64GB SD card and the total cost is still lower than a 32GB iPad... and I get a 80GB tablet instead. Can not wait for this to arrive.
s1lenz said:
Thanks for this, you bring up some excellent points. I'm going to take a wait-and-see approach to see if Franco or Faux will take any interest in this tablet and develop a kernel for it. Unfortunately, for that to happen I think the community is going to have to pool together some cash, like they did for the Oppo Find5...
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I'm hoping the same. Franco's gamma and color tool did wonders for what I felt was a very washed out screen on the n4.
I think the screen on the xtz is pretty good but a little too warm. I'd pay good money for a screen calibration tool.
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I'd pay good money for a screen calibration tool.
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This, so much.
violet grays
I've seen 3 Tablet Z in a shop in Moscow, and the screen was the only issue which stopped me from buying one. The whites where slightly yellowish which I could get used to, but the grays were of purple tint!
I even made a side-by-side screen comparison between Sony Experia Tablet Z, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and iPad 4. I opened the same web page on every device and compared the colors as well as the text quality.
Samsung has a cooler white point, which means the whites were slightly bluish, the grays were also a little bit cool but ok. The text quality has been foreseeably lower than on other devices since Note 10.1 has lower resolution.
iPad is the best in terms of readability and color accuracy - white is quite neutral, gray is gray. The text is rendered very clean.
Sony Experia Tablet Z's white was noticeably more of yellow tint and the shades of gray were all slightly violet. In general, it looked like washed-out old picture. The text was crisp but I'd say has been not so comfortable for my eyes as on the iPad.
Moreover, one of 3 Sonys had more of violet hue than the other two! The salesperson whom I showed this difference told me it was a preproduction item just for demonstration, and the other two were for sale. Which also shows that the tablet really has this issue.
That was a big disappointment for me which prevented me from byuying the Tablet Z. I wish I know if there is a way to calibrate the tablet's screen.
the screen is stunning anyone who says other wise is being very petty. colours great sharp and very vibrant
ash6783 said:
the screen is stunning anyone who says other wise is being very petty. colours great sharp and very vibrant
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Colours are great, sharp and very vibrant indeed.
But still there are problems I described above.
Why is the device so freaking inexpensive? I can buy it from China for mere $230. Other Snapdragon 820 devices cost at least $350.
What's the difference between modifications? X820/X822/X823?
As far as I can see photos made by this smartphone are extremely blurry. Does anyone know a workaround for that? Can it shoot in raw?
What's the real battery life? I'm interesting in watching hi def videos without 4G/WiFi/GPS/Bluetooth enabled at half brightness. Also I'm curious for how long I can read in the same mode.
Or should I buy Xiaomi Mi Max instead?
1. LeEco wanted to draw attention by selling high end phones at reasonable prices. Also, they don't intend to make money from selling hardware, they want to do it by selling LeTV's video streaming services.
2. Nobody but LeEco knows, apparently hardware for all versions are basically same. My X822 became a X820 after flashing the EUI5.9 firmware.
3. I had no issue with the camera. Those blurry photos might have been taken by competitors. No, photos cannot be saved in RAW.
4. Considering it screen size and resolutions, to me, battery life is not bad at all. At least it is much better than my previous Samsung Note 2.
Im pretty happy with Mine. It's very inexpensive but has a few drawbacks. As you know there's No 3.5mm headphone Jack and u Can also not add any memory in Form of mictoSD to it.
If ure aware of that, and still want to get it, go for it!
For your questions.
Im running cuoco92 Rom (custom Rom based on the Chinese Stock rom) atm having ~140k on antutu usually.
Batterie Life is Okay. Im getting around 40+ hours with light-mediun useage.
Camera as well does Great Pictures, at night it's meeh but for the usual Daily shots it's perfect. It Can record in 4kbut these Videos Seem rather shaky and u have to refocus All the time.
On Heavy usage: watching lots of Videos playing games etc. It will be Dead by the End of day for Sure.
The Screen is very Bright and very Sharp. I actually have my brightness at normally around 15% and it's more than enough for me. Also in direct sunlight, u can still really easily read the Phone.
I Can highly advice u this Phone, especially if u are a bit on a tight budget.
Xiaomi has better international Support as well as more custom roms so it's a good choice as well.
Last but not least, I have heard the zte Axon 7 should be a really nice alternative too.
English is not my native language so don't mind the spelling.
ZTE Axon 7 is actually what I'd love to buy (AMOLED QHD screen + stereo speakers = win-win), but it's way above my budget, and I've heard stories that Le Max 2 has serious quality issues. So, I'm still hesitant.
Thank you for your answers!
I am very satisfied with the camera performance. It's no S7 or Pixel, but it's bloody good for a $230 phone.
For battery life, I normally get about 4-6 hours SOT in a day's use. Have pushed 8 on days with a lot of continuous use and using some of eui's battery saving features. Considering the size of the battery and the 2K screen, battery life is certainly not bad, and with QC3.0 you can get a boost to last the rest of the day within a very short time on charge.
Hi, Can anyone comment on the speaker of this phone? is it good/loud enough watching video or you tube?
I have LG G4 speaker is pretty good and loud for my like. Anyone come from G4 to Le Max 2? Can you comment, thank you.
See thread about Camera 2 API. After this tweak I obtain Dng files with AZ Camera.
One hour of watching Full HD movie takes about 18-22%. 4G+GPS drains battery a little bit too fast.
Battery life is good. One day at University is no Problem with a lot activity.
Camera is OK for the price. At low light the pictures are Bad for raw there is a camera2api thread, but i didn't try that.
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Im pretty happy with Mine. It's very inexpensive but has a few drawbacks. As you know there's No 3.5mm headphone Jack and u Can also not add any memory in Form of mictoSD to it.
If ure aware of that, and still want to get it, go for it!
For your questions.
Im running cuoco92 Rom (custom Rom based on the Chinese Stock rom) atm having ~140k on antutu usually.
Batterie Life is Okay. Im getting around 40+ hours with light-mediun useage.
Camera as well does Great Pictures, at night it's meeh but for the usual Daily shots it's perfect. It Can record in 4kbut these Videos Seem rather shaky and u have to refocus All the time.
On Heavy usage: watching lots of Videos playing games etc. It will be Dead by the End of day for Sure.
The Screen is very Bright and very Sharp. I actually have my brightness at normally around 15% and it's more than enough for me. Also in direct sunlight, u can still really easily read the Phone.
I Can highly advice u this Phone, especially if u are a bit on a tight budget.
Xiaomi has better international Support as well as more custom roms so it's a good choice as well.
Last but not least, I have heard the zte Axon 7 should be a really nice alternative too.
English is not my native language so don't mind the spelling.
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What do you mean by medium light usage? 40+ hours? Nearly 2 days? Do you use WiFi? Which rom?
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fortez said:
Battery life is good. One day at University is no Problem with a lot activity.
Camera is OK for the price. At low light the pictures are Bad for raw there is a camera2api thread, but i didn't try that.
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Can you define "lot of activity" and which rom?
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Can you define "lot of activity" and which rom?
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Im on CH .21 stable and deleted trash. Lot of activity is about 6h display activity with facebook, whatsapp, a bit Pokémon, chrome, other little games.
ApTeM said:
ZTE Axon 7 is actually what I'd love to buy (AMOLED QHD screen + stereo speakers = win-win), but it's way above my budget, and I've heard stories that Le Max 2 has serious quality issues. So, I'm still hesitant.
Thank you for your answers!
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Can you really tell the difference between mono and stereo from a 3" wide phone,? At best, the speakers are 2" apart. Perhaps, it is better to have mono and make the speaker larger.
I think the so called quality issue was mainly due to the third party ROM which most sellers installed it for non Chinese buyers. Stick with the stock Chinese ROM or the third party ROM with good ratings, the phone should be fine.
Le Max 2 gives you the best bang for the buck, no question about it.
How is the charging time for this phone? Is it fast?
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How is the charging time for this phone? Is it fast?
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Qualcomm quick charge 3
Very good and fast
guys i m a heavy gamer shall i buy it? what kind of issues you are facing in le max2. else i bought someother mobiles my budget is 19k. please help me
I want to know if the phone heats up uncomfortably during gaming.
The review in gsmarena noted that the phone heats up during the benchmark tests.
I'm going to sell this Leeco Le Max 2, which device listed below is the best trade value?
T-Mobile or Factory Unlocked LG G5
OnePlus 2
Nexus 6P
That is the question.
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Non pro. Easy choice.
Deciding factors:
1. 16:9 aspect ratio;
2. High screen to body ratio with large usable screen area because of option to not use on screen buttons which would otherwise eat one line from the screen; <—this one is actually the most important one since mate 10 gets overlooked, since its seems that its “just” 5.9” but its fckin 5.9” in 16:9+no buttons. It much more usable screen than sausage style note8,s8 pluses..
3. Headphone jack;
4. Expandable storage.
Pro is just plain stupid and a failed model IMO. Even if you do like the 18:9 aspect ratio, mate 10 pro imo sits in third place in such category behind s8+ and v30 (even with that amoled lottery)
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Non pro. Easy choice.
Deciding factors:
1. 16:9 aspect ratio;
2. High screen to body ratio with large usable screen area because of option to not use on screen buttons which would otherwise eat one line from the screen; <—this one is actually the most important one since mate 10 gets overlooked, since its seems that its “just” 5.9” but its fckin 5.9” in 16:9+no buttons. It much more usable screen than sausage style note8,s8 pluses..
3. Headphone jack;
4. Expandable storage.
Pro is just plain stupid and a failed model IMO. Even if you do like the 18:9 aspect ratio, mate 10 pro imo sits in third place in such category behind s8+ and v30 (even with that amoled lottery)
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I also have a very close opinion.
But I'm a bit worried about battery life.
Non-pro is qhd and LCD. Probably, it's the most power hungry.
Anyone know how much SoT non-pro versions are getting?
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Csetoue said:
I also have a very close opinion.
But I'm a bit worried about battery life.
Non-pro is qhd and LCD. Probably, it's the most power hungry.
Anyone know how much SoT non-pro versions are getting?
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From what I have gathered through youtube (mostly spanish reviews) non pro is getting 4-6 hours of soton heavy usage with one reviewer pointing out that one of the latest updates improved battery life where his ~SOT on mate 10 went from ~4,5h to 5,5-6h of sot. Nothing special, but also not the worst of results.
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From what I have gathered through youtube (mostly spanish reviews) non pro is getting 4-6 hours of soton heavy usage with one reviewer pointing out that one of the latest updates improved battery life where his ~SOT on mate 10 went from ~4,5h to 5,5-6h of sot. Nothing special, but also not the worst of results.
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In comparison, do you know how much are getting the owners of Mate 10 Pro?
Battery life is very important to me.
Your information kind of let me a bit down, cause I heard that Mate 9 owners used to get 7-9h SoT.
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In settings you can change it from QHD to FHD so in the end it will be just like the Mate 9. That should help battery.
I ordered the non Pro version especially as you can hide the on screen navigation buttons and use the fingerprint sensor as gestures.
I voted for (and bought one) non pro because of its 16:9 ratio - screen is just wider and it's very helpfull for internet browsing etc. Looks and feels beautifully.
sergueis said:
I voted for (and bought one) non pro because of its 16:9 ratio - screen is just wider and it's very helpfull for internet browsing etc. Looks and feels beautifully.
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Where did you buy it from and which model do you have (Huawei Mate 10 ALP-L09, ALP-L29, ALP-AL00) ? How is the scrolling smoothness on it ? Like scrolling smoothness in add full xda when browsing with Chrome? Any choppiness? How is the overall feel in terms of performance, RAM management (app reloads) and so on?
I get the loss of SD card annoyance, though mainly just for ease of initial setup mostly. Headphone jacks never mattered to me though. I do prefer 16:9 but that ship has sailed and you get used to it (2:1) quickly enough. Resolution I don't get, past 1080P (or ratio equivalent) I think it is just a waste, a marketing gimmick that sucks power to no real advantage.
With the non Pro, the look with more traditional bezels and the home button is just dated to the point I can't get past it having used and S8+, Mix 2, and V30 the last several months.
So, all that said, the only real disappointment with the 10 Pro to me is the loss of SD card (and no wireless charging).
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From what I have gathered through youtube (mostly spanish reviews) non pro is getting 4-6 hours of soton heavy usage with one reviewer pointing out that one of the latest updates improved battery life where his ~SOT on mate 10 went from ~4,5h to 5,5-6h of sot. Nothing special, but also not the worst of results.
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I got 9 hrs after the first day.
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I got 9 hrs after the first day.
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Non Pro? Did you have it on QHD or dial it back to FHD?
I am tilted to the pro because form factor is important (fit in my hand and futuristic look) and that amoled display (and even the midnight blue color). External memory not an issue as I currently use a phone which has 128gb internal + extendable slot and yet its almost 70gb free and I have never had to use a memory card for past 1.5 years of using current phone.
Lack of headset Jack not a deal breaker and I'm hoping I can adapt to it. IP67 does not factor in my reason to buy pro. The front FP on regular could tilt me towards standard mate 10 as I have grown tired of lifting phone off my desk. But most reviewers seem to like the rear FP and I have never used a front FP on a big phone, so I have to think again about FP location.
And yea again I'm picky about form factor and build and so I'm not happy that the pro has a 0.7mm larger side bezels and more black border while the standard mate 10 has incredible small side bezels with black border almost not visible. Lol. Also the shriller loud speaker than standard mate 10.
All that said, its obvious that the pro version cannot be declared as a clear better deal and there is lot of give and take going on and the advantages of the pro are not too far apart from standard Mate 10. The Mate 10 pro to me really has to justify itself of the higher price tag (most will buy the 128 gb Mate 10 pro as there is no external memory). So I will only buy after holding both hands on side by side and seeing real advantage with pro version in form and display (and battery life).
Standard Mate 10. The deciding factor for me is LCD vs AMOLED. Yes, AMOLED looks amazing with it's saturation but the risk of burn in and degradation isn't worth it to me. I know the technology has improved over the years but both still occur, sometimes much sooner than expected.
Standard Mate 10 isn't available in most countries...
About battery live: normal use >> almost 2 full days with around 5-6 sot
Heavy use is ending the day with +/-30% left and around 8hours sot.
Non pro.
With the 10 you're basically bezel free anyway, unlike the OP5 and the HTC U11 - that skinny tall stuff is OK at first it seems, until you start using it.
Non-pro.
I prefer the non-pro version as well. I need the sdcard slot and audio jack.
If I change my P10 Plus, it will be for the Mate 10 Pro. As I see QHD as a waist of battery and resources and I like AMOLED and its colours, deep blacks and general battery friendliness. Also ergonomic are big plus to me. 128 GB storage is enough for me, especially since Google Photos backup works great I don't need SD Card. I am going wireless headphones and the headphone jack is not needed for me anymore.
Will wait few months and see how the display is holding and check the long term reviews.
I think I expected more from the camera and the AI thing as it was made a big deal of them and a lot of hype was created...
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If I change my P10 Plus, it will be for the Mate 10 Pro. As I see QHD as a waist of battery and resources and I like AMOLED and its colours, deep blacks and general battery friendliness. ...
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You do realise you can change it from QHD to FHD in settings and leave it like that for all your use?
Yes. But it is not the same. Read about it here on xda. Native 1080p kills downscaled 2K screen to 1080p as 2K to 1080p pushes the same amount of pixels, you can't change physically the nunber of pixels with downscaling. On 2K screen downscaled to 1080p there is almost no difference in battery life - search with google. Native 1080p amoled just kills 2K LCD on battery (even downscaled to 1080p).
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Non pro for the 16:9 screen ratio and sd card support.
Easy choice
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Hello guys, i will buy the pocophone tomorrow afternoon, and i was wonder what are the general oponions about this device?
I am here to ear experiences about users that bougjt the poco f1?
I want to know honest opinion related to general?
About camera?
Speed?
Screen?
Thanks
Hi,
I bought this phone recently and I can tell I'm happy with it.
The speed is blazing as it uses the most powerful processor on the market (well, until the Huawei Mate 20 Pro came out with the Kirin 980 SoC, but it's still the second best as of now).
The screen is one of the best IPS panel I've ever seen. It has vibrant colors and is really nice to see. Still, I think it can't compete with OLED screens like you will find on the OnePlus 6 or other high-end devices. That's certainly not the best screen overall, but clearly one of the best IPS screen for a mobile device.
The sound output is excellent as well, I use it daily with my Sennheiser Momentum (over-ear, second version). I find it has too much bass so I reduced them using an equalizer, but that's also the best Jack output I've ever seen on a smartphone.
The battery life is also amazing, with clearly two to three days in standard usage - you can't make it K.O. in a single day without playing games all the day long. I personnaly get around 8 hours of screen on time.
For these points, I think that's clearly the best device I've ever had between my hands. But of course, it has downsides to, and here is the list of the ones I've found about this phone :
* Camera is not great. It's not bad, but not great. If you compare it to, let's say, a LG G6, a Samsung Galaxy S8/9 or an iPhone X(R/...) it's the just not the same level;
* Design is fine and I'm not too regarding about this but clearly most competitors (if not all) do better at the same price. The borders are a bit thick, the notch is large, and the bottom border is too big too;
* No Widevine L1 support means you cannot watch Netflix in HD. Apparently they are working on a fix but for now you will be limited so lower resolutions;
* No NFC support means you will not be able to use anything that uses NFC (some payment methods, connection to headphones that support it, etc.)
That's, for me, for main high points and downsides of this phone
So, to sum up a little bit, if you simply want a blazing fast phone at a low price, buy it. But, if you want the best screen to watch your Netflix series in high resolution or want to take high-quality photos, you may prefer a competitor (like the OnePlus 6).
Amazing
zedge13 said:
Hello guys, i will buy the pocophone tomorrow afternoon, and i was wonder what are the general oponions about this device?
I am here to ear experiences about users that bougjt the poco f1?
I want to know honest opinion related to general?
About camera?
Speed?
Screen?
Thanks
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Crazy good phone for the price.
The camera is moderate, better than older phones but worse than newer phones.
Speed is crazy fast. I'd recommend rooting it and installing greenify as i felt that the phone gets a big laggy throughout the day (not extremely noticeable) but hibernating the open apps helps. There are some services and pre-installed apps which i removed/disabled to increase free memory and battery life.
Battery is amazing, I commute to school and back home in a total of 4 hours with data, location, and spotify running in the background and it eats maybe 5%.
Screen is beautiful, not as vibrant as OLED screens but still really good looking. I haven't had an screen bleeding issues as others have been complaining about it.
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I'm currently using the Zuk Z2 plus and looking for an upgrade as the battery is worn out. Is this phone good if I get it at 15k? How bad are the ghost touches and any fix? Any other issue?
Or should I go for Redmi K20 as K20 pro is out of my budget..
Don't waste your money on any Xaiomi phone, better wait and save more the new phone.
don't buy
don't buy it, even paying 7k is enough for this in 2019, have been using it for 7 months, lot of issues facing, specially signal issue, freezing, battery backup, updating issue, now after updating to september 2019 update facing google cam stuck, don't take it, you can buy K20 at flipkart BB sale or realme 5 pro or XT or X...........
Chup Bc
Most Probably You Are Using Old Batch !
I'm Using It From 1 Year And No Issues At All !
Newer Models Got New Panel !
The First Batch Was Sh*t, But They Could Be Fixed Just By Using Proper Kernel With Proper Driver.
If You Don't Know That, Don't Mislead Annoying!
You can get even more discount by using an axis bank debit credit card and icici credit card, which technically brings the price down to 13.5k. And at this price that's an absolute steak. Nothing comes close. Go for it
I added a poll please vote . I'm still confused and only 5 days left for sale
So let me give a little comparison.
If you choose the Poco F1, you get an LCD display, Snapdragon 845 which is great if you plan to play any heavy games. SD card slot and a notch. 2 Cameras on the back (''wide''/normal camera and a depth sensor which is used to detect edges when you do a portrait shot)
If you choose the K20, you get an AMOLED display, you get a Snapdragon 730 which is still great but not as powerful as the Snapdragon 845, you can still play heavy games but not at high FPS or you will have to lower the graphics quality. You lose the MicroSD slot. ''Bezel Less'' display. You get 3 cameras on the back (wide, telephoto which is great for portrait shots and an ultrawide which is great for landscape shots).
If you want to play heavy gpu games, go for the Poco F1, most of the ghost touches are fixed with either updates from MIUI or various kernels on this site (some say ghost touches occur because they installed a screen protector). If you don't plan to play any heavy gpu games and you only use it for social media, videos, light-medium gpu games, go for the K20.
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So let me give a little comparison.
If you choose the Poco F1, you get an LCD display, Snapdragon 845 which is great if you plan to play any heavy games. SD card slot and a notch. 2 Cameras on the back (''wide''/normal camera and a depth sensor which is used to detect edges when you do a portrait shot)
If you choose the K20, you get an AMOLED display, you get a Snapdragon 730 which is still great but not as powerful as the Snapdragon 845, you can still play heavy games but not at high FPS or you will have to lower the graphics quality. You lose the MicroSD slot. ''Bezel Less'' display. You get 3 cameras on the back (wide, telephoto which is great for portrait shots and an ultrawide which is great for landscape shots).
If you want to play heavy gpu games, go for the Poco F1, most of the ghost touches are fixed with either updates from MIUI or various kernels on this site (some say ghost touches occur because they installed a screen protector). If you don't plan to play any heavy gpu games and you only use it for social media, videos, light-medium gpu games, go for the K20.
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I want good camera and battery(installing GCam and custom ROMs). I have seen Pocos display and it looks great! I don't mind AMOLED display nor do I need MicroSD.
Does Poco have ESim?
wow you haven't bought it YET ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/worth-buying-t3960723
I thought we closed this chapter!
I replied you there and I still stand for it!
yes the AUG2019 update had touch drivers issues but I am reading reports that on vendor 10.3.8 they fixed it
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wow you haven't bought it YET ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/worth-buying-t3960723
I thought we closed this chapter!
I replied you there and I still stand for it!
yes the AUG2019 update had touch drivers issues but I am reading reports that on vendor 10.3.8 they fixed it
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:laugh: i couldnt decide then but now the sale will start soon and the cost factor is great so was pretty i should buy it now
GopalKaul said:
:laugh: i couldnt decide then but now the sale will start soon and the cost factor is great so was pretty i should buy it now
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all the best sir
GopalKaul said:
:laugh: i couldnt decide then but now the sale will start soon and the cost factor is great so was pretty i should buy it now
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With Google Cam you will get great photos out of both phones, sometimes the stock camera outperforms the Gcam. Also MKBHD did a camera blind test with a bunch of high end phones and the Poco F1 got 2nd place. And if you plan on flashing ROMs, you will find great ROMs and Kernels that will give you great battery life.
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:laugh: i couldnt decide then but now the sale will start soon and the cost factor is great so was pretty i should buy it now
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POCO F1 is the best phone you can get at ₹15K as it has second fastest Qualcomm processor. So don't worry just buy, you don't need post a poll. But buy it from Amazon, because ₹1K cheaper in Amazon. Or else you can buy Asus Zenfone 5Z for ₹17K which is also a good option as it has great design & build quality and HiRes earphones in the box.