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I'm sorry if I'm asking questions that have been answered here, but I am new to rooting and am suffering from information overload. I get confused about references to stock Android and whether this means the stock Verizon version or the untouched Android that Nexus devices get.
I'm using this phone through Tracfone and thus do not receive OTA updates. This also makes all of the Verizon bloat all the more useless. I'm not looking for a special ROM, I just want vanilla Android that will receive new updates over wifi.
Is this possible?
Hi. Stock means what LG/Verizon put on our phone. I understand the confusion, though, and I used to be confused about it too. It's best to call "pure" or "purer" Android AOSP, or from what I've read there isn't any true full AOSP that's user compiled any more - they're all more or less based on CyanogenMod, so "AOSP" or "CM", but CM is more realistic. AOSP is what Nexus has, although of course, it can be called stock too since in that case they're one in the same unless you're running a user-compiled AOSP in which case if it were me I would call it something else to distinguish it from the stock AOSP on Nexus.
CyanogenMod-based ROMs will be the closest you'll get. CM13 for Marshmallow. I don't know if CM gets OTAs, I think sometimes in the past they have, at least once a version of CM has gone "final" (not sure if CM13 has gone final). Some ROMs that are based on CM have OTAs too.
I can't speak as to how well these work. I used to use CM-based ROMs more on other phones but for me, stock works so much more reliably/predictably and overall smoother than AOSP/CM. AOSP/CM and International-based stock ROMs always seem to have some unreliableness factor.
If you want a debloated but reliable ROM based on stock (which would receive OTAs if there ever are any more, but it's doubtful there will be), use @xdabbeb 's stock 47A (Marshmallow) firmware along with either my debloat zips or the debloat generator made by another user, which I link to in the third post of the 47A firmware thread in the Development section. The debloat zips/generator are also linked to in my signature below.
Overall, personally, I consider @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0 ROM, based on 35B (5.1.1) the best ROM, but I'm currently using the stock 47A firmware with complete debloating and am satisfied with it.
I use Xposed and G3TweaksBox to get some features on stock ROMs that I consider a must.
The easiest way to flash the ROM I mentioned is (if you're not rooted yet), first tell us what version of the stock ROM you're on. If it's anything but 23C or 24B, the absolute easiest way to root and put custom recovery on is by downgrading to 10B using the TOT method and the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ. Links to the TOT and DLL in @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section, also the first link in my signature below.
Directions and the links to the program to flash TOTs, you'll have to Google for.
In the future, please ask all questions in the Q&A section. I'll ask a moderator to move this thread. Thanks!
Thanks for the response. I am definitely most interested in reliability. After reading your post, I think I might just stick with the stock Verizon image and wait for the upgrade tool to release Marshmallow.
Nate Wrigley said:
Thanks for the response. I am definitely most interested in reliability. After reading your post, I think I might just stick with the stock Verizon image and wait for the upgrade tool to release Marshmallow.
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You're welcome! Or if I didn't say it before, you can flash the 47A KDZ with LG Flash Tool 2014, preferably with the CSE option which will wipe all data including internal storage, so use the built in LG Backup and also move what you want to keep from your internal storage.
Hi Guys,
unfortunately i didn´t had a lot of time the last few months to read here the forums or to try different roms but ive seen that it is possible to run Pie stable on our phones. (actually on H930 Stock Oreo rooted).
Im really satisfied at the moment but of course i would upgrade my phone if it comes with more pro´s as cons - ive readen that there are still some LG known bugs/problems with Pie
So, maybe you guys can help me to decide for upgrade or not, that whats really important for me is:
Music
Actually iam using PowerAmp with Whiskeyomega´s Mods and iam really satisfied with the quality and of course volume
Ive read that Whiskeyomegas Mods arent working on pie anymore and i saw an him-force mod for pie.
Is there a way to get the earphones shout like they do with mods on oreo or is it really that bad like some ppl say?
(Maybe i should mention that ill go for rooted stock again, no AOSP or else)
Cam
Of course i want to use all features of my cam - wide angle and stuff - i want to go for rooted Stock so this shouldnt be a big problem with stock cam or is it buggy too?
Hows about development of the Pixel/Gcam ports? The most interesting thing would be night-vision?
Fast OS
When i installed Pie for first time (months ago) it was very laggy, thats why i decided then to leave Oreo on my phone.
Is it still that laggy and is there already somebody debloated it or is there a list which services can be blocked (by Titanium Backup f.e.) for more performance?
What about the different Kernels? Is there a Kernel which should perform better and more stable then stock?
Thx for your help,
regards
Ernesto
Ernesto0023 said:
i want to go for rooted Stock so this shouldnt be a big problem with stock cam or is it buggy too?
Hows about development of the Pixel/Gcam ports? The most interesting thing would be night-vision?
Fast OS
When i installed Pie for first time (months ago) it was very laggy, thats why i decided then to leave Oreo on my phone.
Is it still that laggy and is there already somebody debloated it or is there a list which services can be blocked (by Titanium Backup f.e.) for more performance?
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You'll get some different answers, but bottom line is current EU H930 030b is still laggy. HOWEVER, the BETA EU H930 30q (yes Q, they jumped a LOT of letters, not sure why) is very fast with all RAM management problems solved). Wait a few more days until it's officially released, we get KDZ and TWRP-flashable zip.
Yes, there are ways to fix the current EU H930 30b lagginess, but involves running custom kernel or other stuff. If you are happy right now, just wait a few more days.
I still use stock camera on stock rooted firmware. But best GCam out there right now is this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/gcam-perfectly-flawless-pie-t3969979
Go to that post #1 of that thread to read the settings. But here's the download link:
https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/cfiles/gcm1/Gcam_6.2.030_Advanced_V2.2.2beta2.190910.1840.apk
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You'll get some different answers, but bottom line is current EU H930 030b is still laggy. HOWEVER, the BETA EU H930 30q (yes Q, they jumped a LOT of letters, not sure why) is very fast with all RAM management problems solved). Wait a few more days until it's officially released, we get KDZ and TWRP-flashable zip.
Yes, there are ways to fix the current EU H930 30b lagginess, but involves running custom kernel or other stuff. If you are happy right now, just wait a few more days.
I still use stock camera on stock rooted firmware. But best GCam out there right now is this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/gcam-perfectly-flawless-pie-t3969979
Go to that post #1 of that thread to read the settings. But here's the download link:
https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/cfiles/gcm1/Gcam_6.2.030_Advanced_V2.2.2beta2.190910.1840.apk
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Thanks for your reply - ok then ill wait for 30q KDZ or flashable .zip. So camera and a fast&stable OS shouldnt be that problem anymore.
What about the music stuff, is somebody here who used oreo with the sound mods from whiskeyomega and could compare it to the new stock pie?
I've seen this issue crop up in many custom ROM threads but I haven't seen any resolution.
I am using the US998 model.
After installing several custom ROMs (LineageOS 16.9, LiquidRemix 10.X, AospExtended, and ResurrectionRemix 7.0) and opening YouTube it never gets past the loading icon to display any videos. I can see the options such as Library, Inbox, Subscriptions, etc but none of them load content. The app never transitions to even previews of content or text.
I've tried the following
Clean installs of each ROM (and GApps) from stock Pie
Stock Pie and dirty flash of custom ROM
Uninstall of YouTube with Titanium Backup, then install YouTube from Playstore
The only custom Pie ROM that has YouTube working is Havoc.
I've tried Magisk modules like YouTube Vanced but it doesn't fix the problem.
I enjoy Havok but would prefer a less customized ROM like Lineage (it's my first choice).
Has anyone found a solution for this?
Same exact issue after buying a new LG V30. I didn't have this issue on my old one. Also worth mentioning, my camera doesn't work as well. Everything works on Stock pie. Tried a couple custom roms, none of them work. Same issue as mentioned in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/camera-app-issues-upgrading-to-pie-t3974765
Except that thread talks about stock pie, not custom roms.
^I'm_With_Stupid said:
Also worth mentioning, my camera doesn't work as well. Everything works on Stock pie. Tried a couple custom roms, none of them work. Same issue as mentioned in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/camera-app-issues-upgrading-to-pie-t3974765
Except that thread talks about stock pie, not custom roms.
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You read about the camera degradation issues and other sensors for custom ROMs if you've been on stock Pie, right? Even if you downgrade back to Oreo, you will forever have to run permissive kernel on LOS-16 based custom ROMs and it can affect certain functions on stock Oreo as well.
We have enough warnings in all the Pie KDZ threads, it's clearly detailed in the Root Sticky Guide, and linked in the WTF INSTRUCTIONS.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
* ALSO do NOT update to LG stock Pie yet if you wish to run LOS-16 "Pie" custom ROMs -- at least for now. See REASON HERE. Stock Pie update conflicts with LOS-16 Pie, even if you downgrade back to stock Oreo. After stock Pie update, your phone has been permanently changed/degraded when going back to Oreo for custom ROMs. Using Permissive kernel can overcome some of those issues, but you have been warned.
Whereas you do need to update to stock Pie first as a foundation before trying to install "Android 10" LOS-17 custom ROMs. However, those ROMs are still unfinished work in progress -- so if you don't like them and want to go back to the older stable LOS-16 "Pie" custom ROMs, then you've totally ignored the warning above. Again, stock Pie makes permanent changes.
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Basically don't update to stock Pie if you want to run LOS-16 custom ROMs. If you downgrade back to Oreo, you will have flashlight/camera problems and other sensors. Some of that can be overcome with permissive kernel, some can't.
It's one of the reasons I'm still on stock rooted Oreo with Anxious V30 mod and Xposed mods and have not yet updated to stock Pie on my main phone.
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You read about the camera degradation issues and other sensors for custom ROMs once on stock Pie, right? Even if you downgrade back to Oreo, you will forever have to run permissive kernel on LOS-16 based custom ROMs and it can affect stock Oreo as well.
We have enough warnings in all the Pie KDZ threads, it's clearly detailed in the Root Sticky Guide, and linked in the WTF INSTRUCTIONS.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
Basically don't update to stock Pie if you want to run LOS-16 custom ROMs. If you downgrade back to Oreo, you will have flashlight/camera problems and other sensors. Some of that can be overcome with permissive kernel, some can't.
It's one of the reasons I'm still on stock rooted Oreo with Anxious V30 mod and Xposed mods and have not yet updated to stock Pie on my main phone.
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Unfortunately I bought it used with Stock Pie on it already, but was still able to bootloader unlock it through the downgrade method.. Is there any way to remove these issues or is it permanent? Would downgrading to Nougat be possible/remedy anything? Is my only option to stay on stock and wait for LOS 10 to be ready?
Hi, I'm using a converted us998 with stock 20h, bl unlocked, rooted and twrp 3.2.7 installed. I wanna install aosp-based pie ROMs, but after trying many them, like los 16, havoc 2.9, crdroid 5.4, all of them stuck at their specific boot animations. I'm sure the process of flashing these ROMs are all correct that data, cache, dalvik cache and even system are all wiped before flashing the new ROMs. I also tried los 17 with or without permissive patcher, but it behaves the same.
Before requesting help here, I tried to flash in twrp 20e to see if anything would change, but not at all. So I wonder if I need any kdz work, as currently I have some difficulty to get access to computers.
By the way, this phone I got from a former user, and he told he had used havoc and maybe tried stock pie, but I'm not sure what he had done with this phone. Since I got the phone, I had done no system-level change but daily use. The stock 20h running now has one issue since I got it: after any accident reboot, it may reboot itself every 1-2 minutes, and triggers of wifi, bluetooth cannot work during the process. Only forced reboot while its automatic rebooting can break the misbehavior.
If kdz work is indeed needed, could I convert it to h930 from nougat? I see h930 gets more frequent update.
I was facing similar problem.
But I am able to boot LOS17.1 now. I use this method #3 mentioned in Stock US998 Pie thread on post #4.
basically you need to Partition DL to H933 10h first, just give it a read. This is the only working method for me.
you did flashed Stock Pie firmware, didn't you? It's mentioned here that flashing Stock Pie will gives you irreversible changes to your device that cause problem when you flashed Stock Oreo and AOSP 9.0, they say it'll mess up sensors and camera, but for me I can even boot AOSP 9.0, and haven't go back to Stock Oreo ever since, so idk.
it looks like your only option is AOSP 10.
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Hi, I'm using a converted us998 with stock 20h, bl unlocked, rooted and twrp 3.2.7 installed. I wanna install aosp-based pie ROMs, but after trying many them, like los 16, havoc 2.9, crdroid 5.4, all of them stuck at their specific boot animations. I'm sure the process of flashing these ROMs are all correct that data, cache, dalvik cache and even system are all wiped before flashing the new ROMs. I also tried los 17 with or without permissive patcher, but it behaves the same.
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IF you have a former H931 or H933 converted to US998 you need to follow the AOSP prep stages here for any AOSP ROM to boot:
* Running any AOSP ROM on an US998 converted H931
* [GUIDE] Canadian H933 compatibility with AOSP ROMs
This is mentioned in the WTF Instructions with link to
ADVICE ON CUSTOM ROMS
See post #2, point #2 of that "ROOT YOUR V30!" Sticky Guide.
You don't say WHAT your former variant is, but I assume it's one of those if you are having this much trouble...
zacox123 said:
Hi, I'm using a converted us998 with stock 20h, bl unlocked, rooted and twrp 3.2.7 installed.
I also tried los 17 with or without permissive patcher, but it behaves the same.
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To run LOS-17 ROMs you additionally need to first flash LG stock Pie as a base. The LOS-17 (Android 10) ROMs need the LG stock Pie blobs (drivers). Whereas, LOS-16 ROMS use the LG stock Oreo blobs.
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YES, all this information should be posted in EVERY ROM thread, but it's not. However, I wrote "ROOT YOUR V30!" Sticky Guide so people would still have that information. Same reason @tech_infinity maintains an ASOP bugs thread, which is something else that should be posted in every ROM thread!
* BUGS ON LOS-17 (Android 10) ROMS
* BUGS ON LOS-16 ROMS (those 7 will probably never be fixed)
Uh, sadly I made a mistake and almost bricked my phone. See Help! bootloop per 5 sec, cannot enter rec, download or fastboot
ChazzMatt said:
IF you have a former H931 or H933 converted to US998 you need to follow the AOSP prep stages here for any AOSP ROM to boot:
* Running any AOSP ROM on an US998 converted H931
* [GUIDE] Canadian H933 compatibility with AOSP ROMs
This is mentioned in the WTF Instructions with link to
ADVICE ON CUSTOM ROMS
See post #2, point #2 of that "ROOT YOUR V30!" Sticky Guide.
You don't say WHAT your former variant is, but I assume it's one of those if you are having this much trouble...
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I'm back from the 9008 recovery. I think the original variant of my phone is ls998 as the former owner told me. I have been tired doing anything with North America variants, so if it's feasible to move to stock h930 base as I don't care about baseband, @ChazzMatt?
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I'm back from the 9008 recovery. I think the original variant of my phone is ls998 as the former owner told me. I have been tired doing anything with North America variants, so if it's feasible to move to stock h930 base as I don't care about baseband, @ChazzMatt?
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1) It's strange if you have former LS998 that you can't boot any AOSP custom ROMs. No one else has that issue. Whereas H931/H933 are documented with needing additional prep. Is your phone V30+ (128GB) or just V30 (64GB)? That would definitely tell you what the original variant is. H931/H933 are only 64GB, whereas all the LS998 I've seen are V30+ (128GB).
2) I'm never going to advise anyone to flash anh H930 variant KDZ over North American phones. However, some people have done it, as long as they EXCLUDE certain partitions when flashing H930 KDZ with Dev Patched LGUP in Partition DL mode.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-how-to-convert-us998-20h-to-h930-t3956182
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Select all partition except the following 3: modem, xbl, xbl 2, click Ok and accept partition changes
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That guide above was made when people were too impatient to wait for US998 to get Pie, so they partially converted to EU H930, just to get LG stock Pie. It's not like Frankenstein where you fully convert all partitions, and even change LTE bands.
Also some people have done it to get East European languages not present in the North American firmware.
From what I understand once you flash the H930 stock firmware, it's hard to flash back -- but that may have been the stock "Pie" effect, with sensors messed up, etc -- as people were flashing back to US998 stock Oreo once they tried EU H930 stock Pie. We've managed to overcome that "Pie" effect for the most part, by flashing Nougat then going to Oreo.
(For others reading this do NOT try it with T-mobile H932!)
Hi!
I gave my old V30 away that ran custom ROMs quite a while and flashed it back to stock for that, since the new owner is not a techie. I used a TWRP-flashable stock ROM for this.
But now neither camera nor torchlight do work.
Did I forget something?
You'll need to tell us what ROM you came from. Pie ROMs, for example, can't be TWRP-flashed back to Oreo. Other custom ROMs have even bigger issues.
I would recommend KDZing back to stock. If you're going back to Oreo, you may need to go back to Nougat and then up through the others into Pie, because some of the Oreo KDZ made incremental changes that are needed for Pie. At least that's my understanding on the matter...
Safest would be to back to KDZ Nougat, then go through the rest until you're at the version you want... but there may be some shortcuts.
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Hi!
I gave my old V30 away that ran custom ROMs quite a while and flashed it back to stock for that, since the new owner is not a techie. I used a TWRP-flashable stock ROM for this.
But now neither camera nor torchlight do work.
Did I forget something?
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WHAT stock did you go back to? Oreo or Pie? If you were on LG Pie (and custom ROMS needing LG Pie), going back to stock LG Oreo breaks flashlight and camera. Warnings are listed in the Pie KDZ Guides about this. You have to flash back to Nougat to scrub out the remnants of LG Pie and then you can go to Oreo.
Sometimes even then you have to still run in "permissive" mode to let camera and flashlight work right.