Since kenzo already has AOSP & NOS oreo build available, i just wanted to know if the builds are project treble enabled or not. If not, why not?
no it wont have treble. OEM and qualcomnn must provide drivers etc from a very low level so that it works well. kenzo only had marshmellow, so definetely no. if the device came with android O then it will have.
It's a lot of work which cannot be done by a single person or a team. Even Google has to team up with the silicon vendors and oem to try bring it to current flagships. Lineage Gerrit has some treble related commits, who knows, anything can happen. But it's mostly unlikely.
Is there a reason why every custom ROM seems to go treble? There's no real proven benefit when having unofficial treble. As one of the LineageOS devs said on their subreddit:
You don't get treble. You have it or you don't. All those "ported treble" are plain fake and they don't have the same capabilities of the "real" treble (the one that you have on your device out of the box or from your manufacturer as a stock ROM update).
This because treble requires appropriate changes to the proprietary files (those stored on the vendor partition) that a device without "stock/real" treble won't have
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There's only one partition instead of both. The one for seamless updates is missing (I think).
As for treble ROMs, they are pretty much a gimmick unless devs actually make use of them. But I have seen reddit comments about people trying out generic system images via treble TWRP: https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/8ac2gc/project_treble_is_amazing_and_because_of_this_my/
You can try it for yourself: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-development/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659
https://www.xda-developers.com/flash-generic-system-image-project-treble-device/
What this could mean is, in 2 years if dev support drops for the Note 4, you may still be able to get the most recent version of AOSP or some other ROM as a generic system image. No need to wait around for devs to create ROMs or compile one yourself.
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
You most probably will not. Snapdragon phones have better development, for example, the Redmi 4A did not have kernel source till recently, yet we had bugless Nougat ROMs, and now with source we have Oreo. It all depends on developer support, Oppo is not a brand that interests developers, on top of that it is a Mediatek phone, your custom ROM dreams may well be shattered. A few ported ROMs may be made if any developer decides to make it but will most likely be too buggy.
SouradeepB said:
You most probably will not. Snapdragon phones have better development, for example, the Redmi 4A did not have kernel source till recently, yet we had bugless Nougat ROMs, and now with source we have Oreo. It all depends on developer support, Oppo is not a brand that interests developers, on top of that it is a Mediatek phone, your custom ROM dreams may well be shattered. A few ported ROMs may be made if any developer decides to make it but will most likely be too buggy.
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True.But oppo has never released a phone like this.
This phone has the same chipset(helio p60) of oppo f7 which is two times more costly than the realme 1.Therefore it offers immense value for money.And this will attract a lot of customers.Normally when a device has a huge customer base and if it is a value for money device, developers usually become interested in those devices.
Also I know know that both mediatek and oppo have violated GPL many times by not releasing the sources.But since this device is treble compatible,it should solve that problem to a certain extent right?
I am open to discussion...
gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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Yes it will help, as project treble is a initiative by Google to help developers create custom roms without approaching Vendor(Oppo) or the Manufacturer(Mediatek).
gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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Their response shown below,
We understand that you want to give root access to the device and we apologize for the inconvenience caused.
As per the policy, it is not suggestible to root the device. However, if you want to root the device, you can root it using any third party boot-loader on your risk. We won't be able to assist you with any information regarding the rooting of device.
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Their response shown below,
We understand that you want to give root access to the device and we apologize for the inconvenience caused.
As per the policy, it is not suggestible to root the device. However, if you want to root the device, you can root it using any third party boot-loader on your risk. We won't be able to assist you with any information regarding the rooting of device.
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I don't need root access, but there are issues with Color OS 5.
Like:
1. New notification pop appear for 3-4 seconds and you cannot swipe and close them, you need to wait to automatically close them, hampering your work. In other OS you can simply swipe left/right/both to close popup.
2. If you enable development option, then yellow notification will show constantly to close it, until you close mode. Why can't I use function like mock location, etc.
3. If you use app which use accessibility services (like Greenify) then it will constantly show notifcation bar sign to close, it means you cannot use Developer Mode or Accessibility Services Apps.
Hope Oppo will fixes these issues with Color OS in future updates.
""1. New notification pop appear for 3-4 seconds and you cannot swipe and close them, you need to wait to automatically close them, hampering your work. In other OS you can simply swipe left/right/both to close popup.""
HERE IS SOLUTION FOR YOU> SWIPE UP to CLOSE
Ayyshjaju said:
I don't need root access, but there are issues with Color OS 5.
Like:
1. New notification pop appear for 3-4 seconds and you cannot swipe and close them, you need to wait to automatically close them, hampering your work. In other OS you can simply swipe left/right/both to close popup.
2. If you enable development option, then yellow notification will show constantly to close it, until you close mode. Why can't I use function like mock location, etc.
3. If you use app which use accessibility services (like Greenify) then it will constantly show notifcation bar sign to close, it means you cannot use Developer Mode or Accessibility Services Apps.
Hope Oppo will fixes these issues with Color OS in future updates.
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gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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It confirmed via email. The reply is given below:
"Thank you for writing to RealMe Customer Service regarding Project Treble inquiry.
We are delighted to inform you that your RealMe 1 device supports Project Treble. It is already enabled in your device."
But after some researchs i realised that even if it could support project treble, we still can't flash GSI rom with a locked bootloader. (Correct me if it is a wrong findings)
best customm rom
which is the best custom rom available for realme 1 ?
mygadgetreviewer said:
which is the best custom rom available for realme 1 ?
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rightnow none..
root is not possible yet..
Any chances of custom roms that may pop up for realme 1
I am buying a new phone soon. I would like to know if realme 1 will get a custom rom? Please reply quick. Also when do you think the custom rom will be available?
custom rom
kindly worked custom rom,how can flash twrp?
Firmware
gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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Is realme 4gb version firmware available? Please provide the link of stock firmware.
Any update on bootloader unlock and rooting..?
Realme 1 support project terbel
:good:
gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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The realme 1 support project terbel I used the to check and it's shows that it support
confirmed the realme 1 and 2pro are getting bootloader unlock
Confirmed by realme CEO madhav Seth realme 1 and 2pro are getting bootloader unlock and kernel source code confirmed on twitter by him
Sailfish os
I want sailfish os for our realme device
Bootloader unlocked finally
Realme 1 has got bootloader unloccked when can we expect to get custom rom now
Imrans123 said:
Realme 1 has got bootloader unloccked when can we expect to get custom rom now
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You need to wait for kernel sources to get released so devs can work on custom roms. If we get a TWRP recovery, you can try out the A/B GSI roms which are good but slightly buggy. If you want a bugfree rom, you need to wait a while, maybe a month or so.
Thanks bro when can we expect releases of kernel source another quarter
As my lots of friends are having rnote4 and redmi note 4 having soo many treble rom why no Dev is not able successful able to get treble working on redmi 5 plus...???
Again and again... It is useless for new devices!
Treble is only useful in early stages of development. Once dev goes smoothly, a non treble rom is preferred. At least, thats how I understand it.
Will we get android pie roms?
i am really interested in the pixel experience.
I was a mtk user and a porter ...can i port other pie rom like xiaomi note 4's with same kernel version ?
i am new so treat me like a noob:good:
mona356 said:
Will we get android pie roms?
i am really interested in the pixel experience.
I was a mtk user and a porter ...can i port other pie rom like xiaomi note 4's with same kernel version ?
i am new so treat me like a noob:good:
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I'm very sad to see R5+ development is currently dead. I was hoping someone would build a Pixel Experience or any AOSP based ROM for our device but even the oreo roms are dead or finalized already. So i don't think people have anymore interest in R5+..
bdogan1912 said:
I'm very sad to see R5+ development is currently dead. I was hoping someone would build a Pixel Experience or any AOSP based ROM for our device but even the oreo roms are dead or finalized already. So i don't think people have anymore interest in R5+..
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The real problem is lack of updated Oreo kernel sources (how much less Pie). This means, for example, that certain display panels (eg, ebbg) cannot be supported by custom ROMs (you might have to go back to Nougat kernels for that).
Why not write to Xiaomi to release up-to-date Oreo kernel sources for vince in the first instance? If enough people make a fuss, perhaps something will happen ...
DarthJabba9 said:
The real problem is lack of updated Oreo kernel sources (how much less Pie). This means, for example, that certain display panels (eg, ebbg) cannot be supported by custom ROMs (you might have to go back to Nougat kernels for that).
Why not write to Xiaomi to release up-to-date Oreo kernel sources for vince in the first instance? If enough people make a fuss, perhaps something will happen ...
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Xiaomi however isn't listening their customers. A big example is ARB system which absolutely destroys devices. So i guess we are gonna stay dead until something shows up..