Android 8.1 - Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers

I know Samsung is slow with updates but does anyone know if we're ever going to see 8.1 or are they waiting another 12 months for Android 9

.1 updates rarely have anything in them that aren't nexus and pixel related. all the stuff for none pixel devices tends to be in the security patches, hence why for the most part samsung rarely if ever updates to them anymore.
the only release devices on the .1 variant as a selling feature as lots of thick people think it's better to have 8.1 than 8.0 so they upgrade a s9 to a note 9.
it's all PR and in no way an actual upgrade

As mikeyaj said, 8.1 has next to nothing in it. Here's an article: http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...-release-date-download-changes-phones-3317301
Sure, BT battery levels would be nice, but, the device has to support it, and I'm pretty sure Samsung baked it in anyways. LG I know did on my old v20.
The only other notable thing is the fingerprint deactivation after X failed attempts. Nice and all, but for someone frequently forgetting to dry a finger first, I'm not even sure I'd use it.
Now if it was some huge memory leak or something, sure, let's get 8.1 to the masses, but Samsung is struggling with security patches. There's really no reason to invest in testing 8.1 for the few things it adds.

Honestly the biggest thing I am looking forward to is the limited notification sounds per second. Nothing is worse than coming out of Android Auto to 45 seconds of notification sounds. I can mute the phone for a moment to bypass this, but it would be nice if I didn't have to use a workaround.

The only thing I want is dark theme in settings menu which is baked into 8.1

dakunclear said:
The only thing I want is dark theme in settings menu which is baked into 8.1
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No it isn't....... Even the Pixel hasn't had the option to switch dark mode for the notification shade until the latest Android P Developer preview
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Waiting for X.1
Shipoftheline said:
I know Samsung is slow with updates but does anyone know if we're ever going to see 8.1 or are they waiting another 12 months for Android 9
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The update to 8.1 on Nexus improved battery and performance. Others may argue differently, but I would like to see it come to the S9. Major releases are always buggy and is the code that was developed to meet the deadline. The intended functionality usually comes out in the x.1 release.

Android 8.1 for S9 and S9+
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Android Q

What a deception... I was hoping Samsung to be more faster on update.
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/07/no-android-q-beta-samsung-galaxy-phones-not-yet
Samsung and updates not a good match my friend...if u get a samsung for updates..thats no good.
I got my samsung for the hardware and how beautifull it is. Also with one ui the phone is very snappy as it is. No need for updates as of now
seriously?
I hope no betas are released until Samsung's official one :laugh:
get a pixel!!
Q is no big deal anyway. There isn't a whole lot going on with it other than Google will be able to release security updates via Play Store with their new Project Mainline. It will also give the Pixel kids something to run around and squeal about because we know how they get all puffed up when they can say they got it first. ?
Atleast it's coming this dec.
Tel864 said:
Q is no big deal anyway. There isn't a whole lot going on with it other than Google will be able to release security updates via Play Store with their new Project Mainline. It will also give the Pixel kids something to run around and squeal about because we know how they get all puffed up when they can say they got it first. ?
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Yeah, it's true that Android Q hasn't a lot of new stuff.
No need of it now.
But, there's many manufacturers who participate to the beta. I don't understand why a big player like Samsung isn't on the list.
I wish they will participate soon.
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Fredzvw said:
Yeah, it's true that Android Q hasn't a lot of new stuff.
No need of it now.
But, there's many manufacturers who participate to the beta. I don't understand why a big player like Samsung isn't on the list.
I wish they will participate soon.
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I've been through 2 betas with Samsung and before that I was in 3 or 4 with Motorola. To be honest, Samsung doesn't have a clue on how to run a beta program. When we reported problems in the Samsung Members app, the best we got if anything at all was to submit a report through the app to the developers. As far as I know no one got feedback other than we're looking into it. Everything I reported with the S9 carried over to the Pie final. Motorola had a dedicated forum with moderators that actually passed feedback back and forth. I even spoke with a software engineer two times.
Beta with Samsung is sort of here it is, hope it works. :laugh:
well,i was hoping samsung can update a new full screen gesture like android Q , MIUI 10 , oneplus 6's or maybe just build-in one hand operation in next firmware. and faster fingerprint scanning,it really sucks when you try so hard and it just not unlock the phone
Tel864 said:
Q is no big deal anyway. There isn't a whole lot going on with it other than Google will be able to release security updates via Play Store with their new Project Mainline. It will also give the Pixel kids something to run around and squeal about because we know how they get all puffed up when they can say they got it first. [emoji57]
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Not sure I agree here. I'm running it on my Pixel 3 xl and it has many noteworthy features. There is live caption which let's you get real-time transcriptions of what is being said on any video, in any app, across the entire OS. There are systemwide UI changes like dark mode and improved gestural navigation and the back button; over 40 updates to the way security, permissions and privacy agreements are handled. Also, there are improvements to Android's security which will make them come faster thought the Playstore (Project Mainline), better parental controls, new Notification Assistant that will help you reply to incoming chats and other minor stuff. In my opinion, it is by no means a small upgrade, specially when you consider it is still in Beta 3 and will probably add even more features. So far, it runs smooth as butter for me and had great battery life.
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If it follows historically anything like previous generations of Samsung phones it should arrive to the S10 family sometime next year in February or March... Just in time for Google's Android R first preview release.
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Fredzvw said:
What a deception... I was hoping Samsung to be more faster on update.
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/07/no-android-q-beta-samsung-galaxy-phones-not-yet
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Why? Samsung have no commitment to release a beta firmware to users. People today are too impatient, you need to learn to wait for these things.
Charos87 said:
Why? Samsung have no commitment to release a beta firmware to users. People today are too impatient, you need to learn to wait for these things.
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? I'm buying a new high branded product to have one of the best smartphone. I'm here because I want to share my experience and to find informations from others.
What I see is that almost others brands are offering beta firmware to users and faster updates than Samsung. Why do we have to accept this?
I owned some Samsung devices in the past. Finally change my P20 Pro to try S10. But Samsung was not faster than before on updates, maybe slower.
My girlfriend know nothing about cellphone and don't care about updates. But, if you're here man and you don't care about new characteristics, what are you doing here?
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Fredzvw said:
? I'm buying a new high branded product to have one of the best smartphone. I'm here because I want to share my experience and to find informations from others.
What I see is that almost others brands are offering beta firmware to users and faster updates than Samsung. Why do we have to accept this?
I owned some Samsung devices in the past. Finally change my P20 Pro to try S10. But Samsung was not faster than before on updates, maybe slower.
My girlfriend know nothing about cellphone and don't care about updates. But, if you're here man and you don't care about new characteristics, what are you doing here?
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You accept it because that's pretty much the way Samsung has always been and not anyone here is going to change that. When someone buys a Samsung phone, they need to accept that as a condition. I would bet money that the majority of users worldwide care less about updates as long as their phone works reliably.
Fredzvw said:
? I'm buying a new high branded product to have one of the best smartphone. I'm here because I want to share my experience and to find informations from others.
What I see is that almost others brands are offering beta firmware to users and faster updates than Samsung. Why do we have to accept this?
I owned some Samsung devices in the past. Finally change my P20 Pro to try S10. But Samsung was not faster than before on updates, maybe slower.
My girlfriend know nothing about cellphone and don't care about updates. But, if you're here man and you don't care about new characteristics, what are you doing here?
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Other brands may very well offer beta firmware and if what you want is for firmware to come out quickly then I suggest next time you get one of those devices but what I said was be patient, it will eventually come out. You shouldn't be here just to whine about updates not coming out, I've been on XDA for nearly ten years now and it annoys me when people complain about the speed of updates. You should want a complete update without bugs and that takes time, making a post about it won't speed up the release and just clutters up the feed.
Samsung if you see has alot of devices to take care of. They release security patches on monthly bases to phone ranging from 100-max$ they have. Also the one ui which is very heavy skin needs to be fully usable and bug less in new android q. I myself have tried betas and didn't find anything usefull expect bragging in front my friends. Apps run same or maybe 1-2% faster in Q.
With Android betas you can download a new CPU & more RAM to your device so this is why it's so important to get it quickly from the manufacturer.
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With Android betas you can download a new CPU & more RAM to your device so this is why it's so important to get it quickly from the manufacturer.
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This made me chuckle [emoji1787]
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anyone wanting firmware first solution is easy buy a Google pixel
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Ahh the age old xda mass-debate about beta firmware.
Get yer popcorn sweet-cheekses, its gonna be a great
All this mass-debating :laugh:
In all seriousness tho Samsung won't be physically be able to release firmware as quick as Google due to the extra software overlay. Its that simple lol
Samsung has NEVER been known for releasing software early so I'm not sure why anyone would whine about slow updates.
Is look Android 10 UI 2.0 beta is coming soon ?
https://www.sammobile.com/news/which-galaxy-phones-will-get-an-android-10-beta-program/

Oneplus Updatepolitics

Hey,
i asked myself a question. I was informed a few days ago from Oneplus Community Forum, that Oneplus rolls out the Updates in a 3 Month Circle. Dont know that before, just thinked this phone get fast Updates like my old Samsung Note 9 wich is, by the way, on January 2020 Security Patch. Oneplus is on November 2019.
So 2 Questions.
Im right, that OxygenOS is very near to Stock/Vanilla Android with just e few optimations etc ? So nothing overloaded like OneUi from Sammy ?
And is it rihgt, that the OP7TPro is a fully Project Treble supportet Phone ?
If these 2 Things are right, im very courious why they have such a bad Update politic. I mean not general Updates..my 7t Pro runs so far so good without any Bugs or else. I mean the Google Security Updates wich fill critical Security issues, along with the Google OS itself. Oh and i heard in the Communityforum, that Oneplus does this Job better back in the Days with OP6 Series for example. Is that right ?
Treasarion said:
Hey,
i asked myself a question. I was informed a few days ago from Oneplus Community Forum, that Oneplus rolls out the Updates in a 3 Month Circle. Dont know that before, just thinked this phone get fast Updates like my old Samsung Note 9 wich is, by the way, on January 2020 Security Patch. Oneplus is on November 2019.
So 2 Questions.
Im right, that OxygenOS is very near to Stock/Vanilla Android with just e few optimations etc ? So nothing overloaded like OneUi from Sammy ?
And is it rihgt, that the OP7TPro is a fully Project Treble supportet Phone ?
If these 2 Things are right, im very courious why they have such a bad Update politic. I mean not general Updates..my 7t Pro runs so far so good without any Bugs or else. I mean the Google Security Updates wich fill critical Security issues, along with the Google OS itself. Oh and i heard in the Communityforum, that Oneplus does this Job better back in the Days with OP6 Series for example. Is that right ?
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Yes almost stock
No idea on the 2nd question
And there not the best for updates seems to be every 6 weeks or so
OnePlus are... Weird.
They run by this every 2 month update policy but here's the thing.
Lest take this as an example. It's end of January now, and February patch is a week or two away at tops, but they still release an update with January patch, instead of waiting that week or two and be fully in line with security patches.
OnePlus is probably closest to stock Except pixel phone. But I feel they are slowly drifting away form it, in my opinion, the implementation of OxygenOS is really poor.
And yes, this phone is 100% treble supported. (Which one would think would make updates fasters, but I guess not).
Could someone explain to me why the security updates are so important for some? What do they change for everyday user? (I'm asking seriously now, no hard feelings).
The only thing that needs fixing/updating asap for me is Horizon light, and this should be done much sooner. Apart from this everything is working fine, so I rather hesitate to update to not break something else, unless security update fixes the bugs, makes it more functional, faster or more battery friendly

Should I Update To One UI 2 / Android 10?

I have a Samsung Galaxy S9+ Snapdragon on AT&T. Currently on android 9 / one-ui 1.0 / kernel 4.9.112-17018887 / build PPR1.180610.011.G965U1UES7CSK2 / December 1st 2019 security patch
Considering letting it upgrade further, notably to One UI 2 / Android 10
I've seen some stuff about memory leaks? I'm worried about getting locked into a bad upgrade that will make my phone worse
What's the consensus? Are the current builds for Snapdragon stable?
Also, will I lose access to any features / apps? I was very pissed off when the previous update to the camera got rid of Pro Video mode permanently, am I going to lose features like that in this new update?
I did the update few weeks ago and I have to say I'm really disappointed. Maybe it's just my case but my phone slowed down really hard. I have to wait a few seconds to unlock my screen, apps are shutting down randomly on their own, everything looks like the phone is under some hard throttling. I'll only add that I have no root, and my ROM is OFW.
Cheers
Best is to stay with Oreo like I do. Best decision ever. No missing features and no ugly UI
You guys are nuts. 2 ui has been awesome on my device. I get 5 to 6 hours of sot on a 2 year old device. The ui is not ugly between good lock and a few other things fully customized how I like it. I don't know about pie features. So I don't know if something's missing. But there are no complaints on my end from a g9650
true that. 2 ui has been great on my s9+. no problems at all. everything is nice and quick, no slowdowns whatsoever.
but i guess it depends on how one uses his phone and what kind of apps and settings keeps on it.
too many variables to mention.
Yeah definitely. 10 is every bit as good as pie or better. UI is a slightly more refined. There are always people out there that say these updates ruin their performance and battery life but I never see what they are talking about, they also never offer up any proof of their claims. Just want something to complain about I guess.
I recommend upgrading to one ui 2.0, my S9 feels a lot snappier and more refined, also the camera is improved especially the HDR. And the added screen recording feature is very useful.
In my opinion it's not that great, they've changed things that didn't need a fix and added few bugs for that
Camera quality in my case is actually worse than on a9
I don't know about the battery, honestly feels the same
Didn't also slow down or anything, but sometimes everything just feels wanky
Waiting now for OneUI 2.1, hoping they'll fix those things otherwise I'm going to be disappointed as hell

Why are there no Roms?

I'd like to get to as close to vanilla as possible. Not a fan of Samsung's ui or bloat. I'm coming from the tab s1 which had some pretty good roms. There are none for this device and it's almost 6 months old. I would make one myself but lack the necessary skills
Most of the newer top end Samsung Tablets get very little developer support since they cost so much. Happens with every new tablet having people asking where the developer support is for it. Samsung newer UI much nicer and any vanilla roms would take away most of the functionality that makes the tablets great. Apparently the S5e has some dev support.
Problem is Samsung seems to be super slow with there updates for the S7.
I've owned the S7+ SM-T970 for like just a week and I'm already feeling impatient waiting still running off the Oct. update while I keep hearing about about UI 3.0 update hitting there flagship phones.
Do you think at some point down the road when or before OEM support ends we can look forward to some working roms or Treble GSI options ?
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Problem is Samsung seems to be super slow with there updates for the S7.
I've owned the S7+ SM-T970 for like just a week and I'm already feeling impatient waiting still running off the Oct. update while I keep hearing about about UI 3.0 update hitting there flagship phones.
Do you think at some point down the road when or before OEM support ends we can look forward to some working roms or Treble GSI options ?
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Not everyone gets the update at the same time (don't know how they handle when and who should receive the update). I only got a November update a few days ago (though some claimed to have already gotten it) and it offered few improvements. The tablet still feels the same as usual.
As one must choose between custom ROMs and Knox (especially warranty), I'm currently at a loss myself, and for the time being I haven't heard of anyone trying (or succeeded in) booting a GSI on S7/S7+ probably because of this, although it's theoretically possible (again thanks to Treble). At least we now have TWRP... it might be better if one day custom kernels become available.
So far this is the only tablet I know that can offer 120Hz display. My current phone (Razer Phone 2 which is also 120Hz-capable) still doesn't have a specialized ROM but I can already run GSIs on it with adequate performance. For new devices, going for GSI might be easier, but performance-wise it still has a way to go compared to specialized ROMs.
Think it has to do with the fact that snapdragon is locked on samsung

Question Does anyone agree with?

How do you feel about your A53s 5G? Anything in this article ring true for you?
Is Samsung messing up the Galaxy A52s to sell the Galaxy A53?
Samsung is doing a pretty stellar job with its firmware updates lately. Then again, nothing is perfect. And although the ...
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I received March security update on March 14th on my A52s. I see no performance, battery or any other issues.
Anyway if Samsung messed with software on purpose i doubt all those users would go and buy newer Samsung phone again. It's a reach..
A52s is a better device anyway with 778G instead of that Exynos. And it has 3.5mm jack.
Well,my a52 became laggy.Don't know is it because of samsung updates or intalled/uninstalled apps during time or some google bul***** but it happened with every midrange I bought in the past...
Gaga Kanasta said:
Well,my a52 became laggy.Don't know is it because of samsung updates or intalled/uninstalled apps during time or some google bul***** but it happened with every midrange I bought in the past...
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Well A52 has way slower CPU and i would advise against updating to newer Android on midrange phones anyway. Updating definitely does slow down phones, but it's not like Samsung is doing it on purpose..
Xiaomi for example isn't updating mid range phones to android 12, but instead offering new MIUI 13 coupled with Android 11. Samsung should start doing something like this.
Similar is with Windows i have couple of older machines that work great on 7, fast and snappy, but on 10 or 11 are just unusable.
I have a52s,my mistake I hope that one ui 4.1 will improve laggy animations and won't update my phone anymore...I have one question,is it possible to downgrade android and oneui to a11 and latest version of one ui 3 before a12?I have flashed via Odin last time I had Samsung but that was 5-6 years ago when I had a5...
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I have a52s,my mistake I hope that one ui 4.1 will improve laggy animations and won't update my phone anymore...I have one question,is it possible to downgrade android and oneui to a11 and latest version of one ui 3 before a12?I have flashed via Odin last time I had Samsung but that was 5-6 years ago when I had a5...
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Then i don't know i honestly don't have a problem. Did you try clearing cache from recovery, that's something i usually do every time i do a major update to newer version.
I believe it's possible to downgrade with Odin yes. Tutorial
When i bought A52s i instantly got the oneui 4 update and updated so i really can't compare it if it would work faster on oneui 3.
Arobase40 said:
Look like this article is outdated (can't see when it was written) as I got Android 12 with March security update and no issue at all for what I know and feel...
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How could you miss it? It was written yesterday. You can see it below the writer name near the picture
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How could you miss it? It was written yesterday. You can see it below the writer name near the picture
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It was updated yesterday, article is older, from 3-4 weeks ago if i remember correctly..
EDIT: now it seems they merged it into a new article..
Gaga Kanasta said:
I have a52s,my mistake I hope that one ui 4.1 will improve laggy animations and won't update my phone anymore...I have one question,is it possible to downgrade android and oneui to a11 and latest version of one ui 3 before a12?I have flashed via Odin last time I had Samsung but that was 5-6 years ago when I had a5...
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I patched the ap tar from the last 11 A528B firmware. Did an install of the patched ap, cp, bl, and the csc tar not home one. Presto i had 11 on phone rooted. Used zygisk and safety fix 2.2.1 and lposed zygisk and all is good. Firefds R and GravityBox R working great....so yes you can go back to 11 and I am fine with the dec security patch.
bobfrantic said:
How do you feel about your A53s 5G? Anything in this article ring true for you?
Is Samsung messing up the Galaxy A52s to sell the Galaxy A53?
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Did Apple not get sued, for doing something like this.. They made the phones batteries go south, just so people would buy a new one.. I'm planning dumping this phone by the end of next month.. I'm not sure what I'm getting but it will not be a A53.
doubledragon5 said:
Did Apple not get sued, for doing something like this.. They made the phones batteries go south, just so people would buy a new one.. I'm planning dumping this phone by the end of next month.. I'm not sure what I'm getting but it will not be a A53.
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Not exactly like that:
Apple temporarily drops price of iPhone battery replacement, promises iOS update to address battery health in new apology
Apple today published an open letter on its website apologizing for how it handled performance on iPhones with older batteries,...
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in the end OneUI is just android and we know android updates are always a joke, see Pixel 6/Pro, Oxygen/ColorOS, MIUI and etc...
I've had no significant issues with my A52s after any of the updates, just the odd bug/glitch. I wonder how much of this is down to individual apps not behaving nicely with the update, giving the impression that the problem is with Samsung's software.

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