Hey,
i asked myself a question. I was informed a few days ago from Oneplus Community Forum, that Oneplus rolls out the Updates in a 3 Month Circle. Dont know that before, just thinked this phone get fast Updates like my old Samsung Note 9 wich is, by the way, on January 2020 Security Patch. Oneplus is on November 2019.
So 2 Questions.
Im right, that OxygenOS is very near to Stock/Vanilla Android with just e few optimations etc ? So nothing overloaded like OneUi from Sammy ?
And is it rihgt, that the OP7TPro is a fully Project Treble supportet Phone ?
If these 2 Things are right, im very courious why they have such a bad Update politic. I mean not general Updates..my 7t Pro runs so far so good without any Bugs or else. I mean the Google Security Updates wich fill critical Security issues, along with the Google OS itself. Oh and i heard in the Communityforum, that Oneplus does this Job better back in the Days with OP6 Series for example. Is that right ?
Treasarion said:
Hey,
i asked myself a question. I was informed a few days ago from Oneplus Community Forum, that Oneplus rolls out the Updates in a 3 Month Circle. Dont know that before, just thinked this phone get fast Updates like my old Samsung Note 9 wich is, by the way, on January 2020 Security Patch. Oneplus is on November 2019.
So 2 Questions.
Im right, that OxygenOS is very near to Stock/Vanilla Android with just e few optimations etc ? So nothing overloaded like OneUi from Sammy ?
And is it rihgt, that the OP7TPro is a fully Project Treble supportet Phone ?
If these 2 Things are right, im very courious why they have such a bad Update politic. I mean not general Updates..my 7t Pro runs so far so good without any Bugs or else. I mean the Google Security Updates wich fill critical Security issues, along with the Google OS itself. Oh and i heard in the Communityforum, that Oneplus does this Job better back in the Days with OP6 Series for example. Is that right ?
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Yes almost stock
No idea on the 2nd question
And there not the best for updates seems to be every 6 weeks or so
OnePlus are... Weird.
They run by this every 2 month update policy but here's the thing.
Lest take this as an example. It's end of January now, and February patch is a week or two away at tops, but they still release an update with January patch, instead of waiting that week or two and be fully in line with security patches.
OnePlus is probably closest to stock Except pixel phone. But I feel they are slowly drifting away form it, in my opinion, the implementation of OxygenOS is really poor.
And yes, this phone is 100% treble supported. (Which one would think would make updates fasters, but I guess not).
Could someone explain to me why the security updates are so important for some? What do they change for everyday user? (I'm asking seriously now, no hard feelings).
The only thing that needs fixing/updating asap for me is Horizon light, and this should be done much sooner. Apart from this everything is working fine, so I rather hesitate to update to not break something else, unless security update fixes the bugs, makes it more functional, faster or more battery friendly
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I know Samsung is slow with updates but does anyone know if we're ever going to see 8.1 or are they waiting another 12 months for Android 9
.1 updates rarely have anything in them that aren't nexus and pixel related. all the stuff for none pixel devices tends to be in the security patches, hence why for the most part samsung rarely if ever updates to them anymore.
the only release devices on the .1 variant as a selling feature as lots of thick people think it's better to have 8.1 than 8.0 so they upgrade a s9 to a note 9.
it's all PR and in no way an actual upgrade
As mikeyaj said, 8.1 has next to nothing in it. Here's an article: http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...-release-date-download-changes-phones-3317301
Sure, BT battery levels would be nice, but, the device has to support it, and I'm pretty sure Samsung baked it in anyways. LG I know did on my old v20.
The only other notable thing is the fingerprint deactivation after X failed attempts. Nice and all, but for someone frequently forgetting to dry a finger first, I'm not even sure I'd use it.
Now if it was some huge memory leak or something, sure, let's get 8.1 to the masses, but Samsung is struggling with security patches. There's really no reason to invest in testing 8.1 for the few things it adds.
Honestly the biggest thing I am looking forward to is the limited notification sounds per second. Nothing is worse than coming out of Android Auto to 45 seconds of notification sounds. I can mute the phone for a moment to bypass this, but it would be nice if I didn't have to use a workaround.
The only thing I want is dark theme in settings menu which is baked into 8.1
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The only thing I want is dark theme in settings menu which is baked into 8.1
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No it isn't....... Even the Pixel hasn't had the option to switch dark mode for the notification shade until the latest Android P Developer preview
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Waiting for X.1
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I know Samsung is slow with updates but does anyone know if we're ever going to see 8.1 or are they waiting another 12 months for Android 9
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The update to 8.1 on Nexus improved battery and performance. Others may argue differently, but I would like to see it come to the S9. Major releases are always buggy and is the code that was developed to meet the deadline. The intended functionality usually comes out in the x.1 release.
Android 8.1 for S9 and S9+
https://youtu.be/X5vwV4Ob5kw
As Huawei Mate 10 pro was shipped with Android 8 last year I believe Mate 10 Pro also was a part of the Project Treble initiative. If that is so, is it correct to assume that we will soon see an OTA update for Android 9 to the Huawei Mate 10 Pro? And if so, does anyone know anything about the timeline? Like when can we expect to receive Android 9?
Project Treble is a major re-architecture in the way Android works. In essence, it separates the Android operating system (the Android 'framework') from the vendor Hardware Abstraction Layers ('HALs') that allow for the OS to work with the device's hardware
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There have been a few OTA updates including safety patches until August 2019. So that is all good, but when I look in the "About Phone" in settings I am still on Android 8. As I am running this Mate 10 unrooted with a stock ROM I am really looking forward to Android 9 update, and have been checking frequently for new updates without luck.
Anyone knows more about this? Any set date or rumors about an upcoming update to Android 9 for the Mate 10 (pro)?
Currently there is Public beta going on if you are lucky for it to be available.
Date unknown. Probably sometime after the Mate 20 released.
Im in the same boat. Waiting for updates to alot of promised features
that are still lacking in the Mate 10. If Huawei released Android 8.1 for people outside of
China we would already have them.
Instead they are quick to release PUBG and GPU turbo fixes cause we would rather have that than updates for
Camera and Slow Mo 960fps etc.
Second beta was just released. Will update on Friday.
Information from the official Huawei forum in Serbia says that rollout of the official EMUI 9.0 for Mate10 Pro will start on December 14th.
So the Emui is equal to the Android version as in when Huawei update/bump their EMUI to 9.0 that means they will also bump the core to android 9?
Ok, probably just me that have read to much into the Project Treble an the separation of HAL. Since I first read about the HAL last year I kind of figured that the mobile devices that shipped with Android 8 would get a really timely bump to Android 9, like within weeks only after the android bump. So in my mind I kind of expected the roll out of new Android to be almost close to equal to the end of beta for Android 9.
On a semi related question, iirc the back story of the Project Treble was that Google wanted to address the fact that manufacturers did not commit to keep their Android devices updated, and that most of the manufacturers has a short life span of updates. Which combined lead to ie some bad press regarding vulnerability for many older Android devices, along with a less desirable user experiences with aging Android devices. Not to mention the lack of abilities to take advantage of all the newer software improvements that follows each Android update each fall. There have been a couple of Google initiatives prior to Project Treble, without hardly any traction and without Google being able to force manufacturers to stay committed.
So with the Project Treble Google did from what I can remember,make it mandatory for join the Project Treble for those who shipped their devices with Android 8. In my mind that translated to all kinds of things. Like Google putting down minimum requirements for number of updates manufacturers had to commit to, the speed of which they release updates etc.
However, did Google in fact put any of those requirements into Project Treble? Can we in fact look forward to having ie set number of supported updates from manufacturers in the future? Or will the big brands still be able to ignore their customer base rapidly and push forward with new models and focus their energy towards people updating their devices and buying the next year model rather then keeping their previous model with less overall waste, less economic impact and a more sustainable hardware update factor?
Treble means it would be much quicker and easier for oems to update to the newest version of Android, but it would still have to be the OEM making the update and pushing it out to your phone (unless it's an Android one or pixel phone I don't think Google themselves creates the updates)
There are no mandatory commitments to speed or number of updates, I think the only requirement was must be able to boot aosp (but unless your bootloader is unlocked you can't flash aosp anyway)
They will not release the 9 in the near future because they will launch mate 20 in less than a month.... they don't want to hurt sales.
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They will not release the 9 in the near future because they will launch mate 20 in less than a month.... they don't want to hurt sales.
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Yeah but not the final version we need the beta at least ?
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Treble means it would be much quicker and easier for oems to update to the newest version of Android, but it would still have to be the OEM making the update and pushing it out to your phone (unless it's an Android one or pixel phone I don't think Google themselves creates the updates)
There are no mandatory commitments to speed or number of updates, I think the only requirement was must be able to boot aosp (but unless your bootloader is unlocked you can't flash aosp anyway)
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Well if Google didn't take any steps to enforce manufacturers to actually keep updating they should keep their mouth shut about it later when we will see as usual that android devices are lagging behind in version numbers.
I really thought Google went balls in and was brave last last year with Project Treble and put down some new ground rules for their OEM's. But now it seems treble is just as weak hearted as the previous attempts from Google. Well I guess the solution is custom ROM's.
Manufacturers will never keep updating unless they are pressured to do so, they will always chase the sale of the next device and try to maximize profit rather then committing to last years hardware is up to date. So I guess project treble was a nice idea but google lacked the balls to actually lay down the law and demand dedication. Spineless. And to think they once lived by the catchphrase "don't be evil".
Can you test in Europe? I know that the next person in China is testing k.b 1500 users !?
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Can you test in Europe? I know that the next person in China is testing k.b 1500 users !?
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Beta test in Europe is already opened. 101 per country
Hi, I am looking for a 6.5 phone, which will have at least 2 years support of the vendor. It will be used by my wife, so alternative ROM is nogo.
What is the EOS for Honor 8X?
Thank you
Probably 2 years for software and 1 year for hardware warranty same as other honor phones. Launched with Oreo and beta Pie is already in progress so dont see any issue in getting the next android version.
Thanks, ok it seems I will have to buy and setup phone for her every two years. I am already 40, so new versions do not impress me at all. Pie is huge step back in UI for me (at least on MiA1, MiA2).
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Thanks, ok it seems I will have to buy and setup phone for her every two years. I am already 40, so new versions do not impress me at all. Pie is huge step back in UI for me (at least on MiA1, MiA2).
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That's only major software update but security updates could extend upto 3 years. And even if ROS reaches, phone still works fine (using 5X since 3 years now)
Just curious, how frequent are the security updates? Thinking of switching to huawei phone but from what i googled, it seems Huawei's security or OS updates are slow. Is it still the same or has they improved? This is what's currently holding me back from jumping onboard. Any feedbacks on the update rate is much appreciated.
Seems Google is struggling with pixel 6 series.
First the critical Dec release was delayed/not yet reached to many ppl.
Secondly, no sign of 12L beta on pixel 6.
All is not well with 6 series.
December OTA is stopped due to connecting network issues
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December OTA is stopped due to connecting network issues
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Do you have a source for this please? Thanks.
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Seems Google is struggling with pixel 6 series.
First the critical Dec release was delayed/not yet reached to many ppl.
Secondly, no sign of 12L beta on pixel 6.
All is not well with 6 series.
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Google is not struggling with the P6. It is the same thing every year with a new OS and new devices.
Curious to why you want Android 12L, it is geared towards Android tablets.
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Google is not struggling with the P6. It is the same thing every year with a new OS and new devices.
Curious to why you want Android 12L, it is geared towards Android tablets.
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I think they do, Pixel 6 Dec patch was released 1 week after old devices (Which has not yet reached to mass - Source: https://9to5google.com/2021/12/20/does-your-pixel-6-have-the-december-2021-update-yet-poll/ ).
Android 12L beta 1 was released 2 days after the Dec patch for older devices, on Dec 8. And todays is 22nd Dec (more than a week after "so called" Dec patch release) but no sign of any 12L beta.
No comms or news about 12L beta as well, from google, for Pixel 6 series (apart from "Coming Soon" tag).
Regarding your curiosity: I bought pixel 6 just for regular updates and early access to newer version.
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I have downloaded the december release over OTA after searching for updates. Then rolled back to november because of the problems with calls and now the december release is not offered any loger (if i search for updates).
I even think they have stopped it.
If the beta isn't today, I doubt we'll get it. Maybe we have to wait until beta 2.
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If the beta isn't today, I doubt we'll get it. Maybe we have to wait until beta 2.
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No sign so far.. and most frustrating part is no official communication at all.
Another beta released and yet nothing for pixel 6 series.
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Another beta released and yet nothing for pixel 6 series.
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google have messed up big time with the pixel 6 / 6 pro
last time i ever buy a google phone
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google have messed up big time with the pixel 6 / 6 pro
last time i ever buy a google phone
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I personally don't consider it as a mess up. Been getting Google phones since the Nexus 6 with the exception of the Pixel 4. I would only guess that there is going to be a few bumps in the road with something like 6 being that it is a whole new "phone" in sorts if you would call it that. Consider a new type of chip (not been tested much if at all), new fingerprint scanner (For Google its new and it SUCKS), a little larger phone AND I think a large portion of it is consider supply and demand with supplies with building a phone. Google has always aimed for the NEXT best thing, a sort of pioneer. I had the Pixel 5 and it was great for about 6 months then nothing but problems for me. My wife loves her 5 and doesn't like the 6. Although she can handle the little things that drive me nuts with the 5 and she can't stand the trade off for the 6, being larger and the finger print scanner that is limited to 5 unlocks a day before charging (due to the time it takes to get the hamster run fast enough on his wheel). This is just my 2 cents worth and not even worth that most of the time.
If you know of another phone manufacturer, that offers monthly updates (95%) of the time for a min of 2 years, Is vanilla android, and gets new Android versions 1st not to mention unlockable bootloaders for those who have to tinker, don't be greedy! I am sure there is a few of us that would consider trying another phone line up just to try if nothing else. Darn that is another nickels worth . OK I shut up now..
I will be happy to try beta 12L for my android tv devices. Most Android tv boxes are using out dated software.
But for the P6 it is a no for me. I just do not see any benefits for the P6.
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Seems Google is struggling with pixel 6 series.
First the critical Dec release was delayed/not yet reached to many ppl.
Secondly, no sign of 12L beta on pixel 6.
All is not well with 6 series.
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me neither, friend inside says the ongoing issues shouldn't have any impact or be any reason for 12L's delay for us! idk
Good news today
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Good news today
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You installed it?
Following
ATM not, maybe at this weekend.
Please write here if anyone install it. I have no WiFi for a third day, so I am thinking if installing 12L. Just want to be sure it's OK for a daily use. Main topics - how's WIFI, how's camera, how's battery life compare to regular 12 build. Thanks in advance!
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Please write here if anyone install it. I have no WiFi for a third day, so I am thinking if installing 12L. Just want to be sure it's OK for a daily use. Main topics - how's WIFI, how's camera, how's battery life compare to regular 12 build. Thanks in advance!
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I dont have those issues , if i had any i would allready installed it.
Maybe google is paying so much attention developping 12l that they forget to release stable android 12 updates...
I have already installed Android 12L. So fat Wi-Fi is working fine. Will give feedback after few days how's everything else.
How do you feel about your A53s 5G? Anything in this article ring true for you?
Is Samsung messing up the Galaxy A52s to sell the Galaxy A53?
Samsung is doing a pretty stellar job with its firmware updates lately. Then again, nothing is perfect. And although the ...
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I received March security update on March 14th on my A52s. I see no performance, battery or any other issues.
Anyway if Samsung messed with software on purpose i doubt all those users would go and buy newer Samsung phone again. It's a reach..
A52s is a better device anyway with 778G instead of that Exynos. And it has 3.5mm jack.
Well,my a52 became laggy.Don't know is it because of samsung updates or intalled/uninstalled apps during time or some google bul***** but it happened with every midrange I bought in the past...
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Well,my a52 became laggy.Don't know is it because of samsung updates or intalled/uninstalled apps during time or some google bul***** but it happened with every midrange I bought in the past...
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Well A52 has way slower CPU and i would advise against updating to newer Android on midrange phones anyway. Updating definitely does slow down phones, but it's not like Samsung is doing it on purpose..
Xiaomi for example isn't updating mid range phones to android 12, but instead offering new MIUI 13 coupled with Android 11. Samsung should start doing something like this.
Similar is with Windows i have couple of older machines that work great on 7, fast and snappy, but on 10 or 11 are just unusable.
I have a52s,my mistake I hope that one ui 4.1 will improve laggy animations and won't update my phone anymore...I have one question,is it possible to downgrade android and oneui to a11 and latest version of one ui 3 before a12?I have flashed via Odin last time I had Samsung but that was 5-6 years ago when I had a5...
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I have a52s,my mistake I hope that one ui 4.1 will improve laggy animations and won't update my phone anymore...I have one question,is it possible to downgrade android and oneui to a11 and latest version of one ui 3 before a12?I have flashed via Odin last time I had Samsung but that was 5-6 years ago when I had a5...
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Then i don't know i honestly don't have a problem. Did you try clearing cache from recovery, that's something i usually do every time i do a major update to newer version.
I believe it's possible to downgrade with Odin yes. Tutorial
When i bought A52s i instantly got the oneui 4 update and updated so i really can't compare it if it would work faster on oneui 3.
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Look like this article is outdated (can't see when it was written) as I got Android 12 with March security update and no issue at all for what I know and feel...
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How could you miss it? It was written yesterday. You can see it below the writer name near the picture
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How could you miss it? It was written yesterday. You can see it below the writer name near the picture
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It was updated yesterday, article is older, from 3-4 weeks ago if i remember correctly..
EDIT: now it seems they merged it into a new article..
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I have a52s,my mistake I hope that one ui 4.1 will improve laggy animations and won't update my phone anymore...I have one question,is it possible to downgrade android and oneui to a11 and latest version of one ui 3 before a12?I have flashed via Odin last time I had Samsung but that was 5-6 years ago when I had a5...
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I patched the ap tar from the last 11 A528B firmware. Did an install of the patched ap, cp, bl, and the csc tar not home one. Presto i had 11 on phone rooted. Used zygisk and safety fix 2.2.1 and lposed zygisk and all is good. Firefds R and GravityBox R working great....so yes you can go back to 11 and I am fine with the dec security patch.
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How do you feel about your A53s 5G? Anything in this article ring true for you?
Is Samsung messing up the Galaxy A52s to sell the Galaxy A53?
Samsung is doing a pretty stellar job with its firmware updates lately. Then again, nothing is perfect. And although the ...
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Did Apple not get sued, for doing something like this.. They made the phones batteries go south, just so people would buy a new one.. I'm planning dumping this phone by the end of next month.. I'm not sure what I'm getting but it will not be a A53.
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Did Apple not get sued, for doing something like this.. They made the phones batteries go south, just so people would buy a new one.. I'm planning dumping this phone by the end of next month.. I'm not sure what I'm getting but it will not be a A53.
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Not exactly like that:
Apple temporarily drops price of iPhone battery replacement, promises iOS update to address battery health in new apology
Apple today published an open letter on its website apologizing for how it handled performance on iPhones with older batteries,...
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in the end OneUI is just android and we know android updates are always a joke, see Pixel 6/Pro, Oxygen/ColorOS, MIUI and etc...
I've had no significant issues with my A52s after any of the updates, just the odd bug/glitch. I wonder how much of this is down to individual apps not behaving nicely with the update, giving the impression that the problem is with Samsung's software.