Hi, I am looking for a 6.5 phone, which will have at least 2 years support of the vendor. It will be used by my wife, so alternative ROM is nogo.
What is the EOS for Honor 8X?
Thank you
Probably 2 years for software and 1 year for hardware warranty same as other honor phones. Launched with Oreo and beta Pie is already in progress so dont see any issue in getting the next android version.
Thanks, ok it seems I will have to buy and setup phone for her every two years. I am already 40, so new versions do not impress me at all. Pie is huge step back in UI for me (at least on MiA1, MiA2).
xorcz said:
Thanks, ok it seems I will have to buy and setup phone for her every two years. I am already 40, so new versions do not impress me at all. Pie is huge step back in UI for me (at least on MiA1, MiA2).
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That's only major software update but security updates could extend upto 3 years. And even if ROS reaches, phone still works fine (using 5X since 3 years now)
Just curious, how frequent are the security updates? Thinking of switching to huawei phone but from what i googled, it seems Huawei's security or OS updates are slow. Is it still the same or has they improved? This is what's currently holding me back from jumping onboard. Any feedbacks on the update rate is much appreciated.
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Hi guys.
So, if you've read the title, you'll know that I currently have a Honor 8 that I love, except for one thing. GOD. DAMN. EMUI. Build is great, camera is great, battery life is good, it's fast, snappy, etc... But I can't stand EMUI anymore. Late notifications, weird scrolling animations, rare security updates and, most of all, Honor has still not released the source code, which prevents devs from making a stable Custom ROM. LineageOS has been in the works for months and it works quite well, but it randomly reboots every now and then, and it won't be fixed until the source code has been released, which might be.. Never.
So, I've decided to sell it (it can still go for a decent price, I've had 305€ -$330- offers, but I have to wait to get a new phone since I don't have a backup) and go for a RN4, probably the best value for that price, that I ordered on AliExpress for about $150, shipping included.
I've seen that there are quite a lot of AOSP ROMs for the RN4 (Snap version), but are they stable enough for a daily driver ? Does the fingerprint scanner work? How is battery life? And, most of all, are you guys happy with it so far?
Since they are quite hard to get in France (people don't like to import from China), I can easily sell it for $200 if I don't like it, but I'd like your opinion on it
Thanks !
The AOSP roms are still sometimes buggy. And the camera quality is terrible. Get the oneplus 3 or 3t. The only reason id recommend a RN4 snapdragon is battery life. Trust me, the camera is terrible compared to the honor 8.
Lurdy said:
Hi guys.
So, if you've read the title, you'll know that I currently have a Honor 8 that I love, except for one thing. GOD. DAMN. EMUI. Build is great, camera is great, battery life is good, it's fast, snappy, etc... But I can't stand EMUI anymore. Late notifications, weird scrolling animations, rare security updates and, most of all, Honor has still not released the source code, which prevents devs from making a stable Custom ROM. LineageOS has been in the works for months and it works quite well, but it randomly reboots every now and then, and it won't be fixed until the source code has been released, which might be.. Never.
So, I've decided to sell it (it can still go for a decent price, I've had 305€ -$330- offers, but I have to wait to get a new phone since I don't have a backup) and go for a RN4, probably the best value for that price, that I ordered on AliExpress for about $150, shipping included.
I've seen that there are quite a lot of AOSP ROMs for the RN4 (Snap version), but are they stable enough for a daily driver ? Does the fingerprint scanner work? How is battery life? And, most of all, are you guys happy with it so far?
Since they are quite hard to get in France (people don't like to import from China), I can easily sell it for $200 if I don't like it, but I'd like your opinion on it
Thanks !
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I read somewhere that huawei is changing the look and feel of emui with nougat update
May be you should first wait for update, will save you some bucks
I re read your post, ignore the savings part
Aniket21B said:
I read somewhere that huawei is changing the look and feel of emui with nougat update
May be you should first wait for update, will save you some bucks
I re read your post, ignore the savings part
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I've been on Nougat for a while now (since it was released a few months ago), the look of the launcher is a bit more stock, but the behavior of some stuff is still, well... Not great. For example some notifications show up late, if at all, lockscreen notifications are limited to one line, they don't show up on the lockscreen at all if you have a theme installed...
I use a stock Android looking theme, but yeah, I'm not a fan of the interface, it's driving me crazy.
On the other hand, I've using MIUI for a while now. I had it back when it was first released on the first Galaxy S back in 2011, then on my Nexus 4, then on my Mi3... Plus, now that there are stock ROMS available..
Hey,
i asked myself a question. I was informed a few days ago from Oneplus Community Forum, that Oneplus rolls out the Updates in a 3 Month Circle. Dont know that before, just thinked this phone get fast Updates like my old Samsung Note 9 wich is, by the way, on January 2020 Security Patch. Oneplus is on November 2019.
So 2 Questions.
Im right, that OxygenOS is very near to Stock/Vanilla Android with just e few optimations etc ? So nothing overloaded like OneUi from Sammy ?
And is it rihgt, that the OP7TPro is a fully Project Treble supportet Phone ?
If these 2 Things are right, im very courious why they have such a bad Update politic. I mean not general Updates..my 7t Pro runs so far so good without any Bugs or else. I mean the Google Security Updates wich fill critical Security issues, along with the Google OS itself. Oh and i heard in the Communityforum, that Oneplus does this Job better back in the Days with OP6 Series for example. Is that right ?
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Hey,
i asked myself a question. I was informed a few days ago from Oneplus Community Forum, that Oneplus rolls out the Updates in a 3 Month Circle. Dont know that before, just thinked this phone get fast Updates like my old Samsung Note 9 wich is, by the way, on January 2020 Security Patch. Oneplus is on November 2019.
So 2 Questions.
Im right, that OxygenOS is very near to Stock/Vanilla Android with just e few optimations etc ? So nothing overloaded like OneUi from Sammy ?
And is it rihgt, that the OP7TPro is a fully Project Treble supportet Phone ?
If these 2 Things are right, im very courious why they have such a bad Update politic. I mean not general Updates..my 7t Pro runs so far so good without any Bugs or else. I mean the Google Security Updates wich fill critical Security issues, along with the Google OS itself. Oh and i heard in the Communityforum, that Oneplus does this Job better back in the Days with OP6 Series for example. Is that right ?
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Yes almost stock
No idea on the 2nd question
And there not the best for updates seems to be every 6 weeks or so
OnePlus are... Weird.
They run by this every 2 month update policy but here's the thing.
Lest take this as an example. It's end of January now, and February patch is a week or two away at tops, but they still release an update with January patch, instead of waiting that week or two and be fully in line with security patches.
OnePlus is probably closest to stock Except pixel phone. But I feel they are slowly drifting away form it, in my opinion, the implementation of OxygenOS is really poor.
And yes, this phone is 100% treble supported. (Which one would think would make updates fasters, but I guess not).
Could someone explain to me why the security updates are so important for some? What do they change for everyday user? (I'm asking seriously now, no hard feelings).
The only thing that needs fixing/updating asap for me is Horizon light, and this should be done much sooner. Apart from this everything is working fine, so I rather hesitate to update to not break something else, unless security update fixes the bugs, makes it more functional, faster or more battery friendly
I'd like to get to as close to vanilla as possible. Not a fan of Samsung's ui or bloat. I'm coming from the tab s1 which had some pretty good roms. There are none for this device and it's almost 6 months old. I would make one myself but lack the necessary skills
Most of the newer top end Samsung Tablets get very little developer support since they cost so much. Happens with every new tablet having people asking where the developer support is for it. Samsung newer UI much nicer and any vanilla roms would take away most of the functionality that makes the tablets great. Apparently the S5e has some dev support.
Problem is Samsung seems to be super slow with there updates for the S7.
I've owned the S7+ SM-T970 for like just a week and I'm already feeling impatient waiting still running off the Oct. update while I keep hearing about about UI 3.0 update hitting there flagship phones.
Do you think at some point down the road when or before OEM support ends we can look forward to some working roms or Treble GSI options ?
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Problem is Samsung seems to be super slow with there updates for the S7.
I've owned the S7+ SM-T970 for like just a week and I'm already feeling impatient waiting still running off the Oct. update while I keep hearing about about UI 3.0 update hitting there flagship phones.
Do you think at some point down the road when or before OEM support ends we can look forward to some working roms or Treble GSI options ?
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Not everyone gets the update at the same time (don't know how they handle when and who should receive the update). I only got a November update a few days ago (though some claimed to have already gotten it) and it offered few improvements. The tablet still feels the same as usual.
As one must choose between custom ROMs and Knox (especially warranty), I'm currently at a loss myself, and for the time being I haven't heard of anyone trying (or succeeded in) booting a GSI on S7/S7+ probably because of this, although it's theoretically possible (again thanks to Treble). At least we now have TWRP... it might be better if one day custom kernels become available.
So far this is the only tablet I know that can offer 120Hz display. My current phone (Razer Phone 2 which is also 120Hz-capable) still doesn't have a specialized ROM but I can already run GSIs on it with adequate performance. For new devices, going for GSI might be easier, but performance-wise it still has a way to go compared to specialized ROMs.
Think it has to do with the fact that snapdragon is locked on samsung
Seems Google is struggling with pixel 6 series.
First the critical Dec release was delayed/not yet reached to many ppl.
Secondly, no sign of 12L beta on pixel 6.
All is not well with 6 series.
December OTA is stopped due to connecting network issues
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December OTA is stopped due to connecting network issues
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Do you have a source for this please? Thanks.
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Seems Google is struggling with pixel 6 series.
First the critical Dec release was delayed/not yet reached to many ppl.
Secondly, no sign of 12L beta on pixel 6.
All is not well with 6 series.
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Google is not struggling with the P6. It is the same thing every year with a new OS and new devices.
Curious to why you want Android 12L, it is geared towards Android tablets.
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Google is not struggling with the P6. It is the same thing every year with a new OS and new devices.
Curious to why you want Android 12L, it is geared towards Android tablets.
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I think they do, Pixel 6 Dec patch was released 1 week after old devices (Which has not yet reached to mass - Source: https://9to5google.com/2021/12/20/does-your-pixel-6-have-the-december-2021-update-yet-poll/ ).
Android 12L beta 1 was released 2 days after the Dec patch for older devices, on Dec 8. And todays is 22nd Dec (more than a week after "so called" Dec patch release) but no sign of any 12L beta.
No comms or news about 12L beta as well, from google, for Pixel 6 series (apart from "Coming Soon" tag).
Regarding your curiosity: I bought pixel 6 just for regular updates and early access to newer version.
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Do you have a source for this please? Thanks.
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I have downloaded the december release over OTA after searching for updates. Then rolled back to november because of the problems with calls and now the december release is not offered any loger (if i search for updates).
I even think they have stopped it.
If the beta isn't today, I doubt we'll get it. Maybe we have to wait until beta 2.
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If the beta isn't today, I doubt we'll get it. Maybe we have to wait until beta 2.
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No sign so far.. and most frustrating part is no official communication at all.
Another beta released and yet nothing for pixel 6 series.
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Another beta released and yet nothing for pixel 6 series.
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google have messed up big time with the pixel 6 / 6 pro
last time i ever buy a google phone
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google have messed up big time with the pixel 6 / 6 pro
last time i ever buy a google phone
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I personally don't consider it as a mess up. Been getting Google phones since the Nexus 6 with the exception of the Pixel 4. I would only guess that there is going to be a few bumps in the road with something like 6 being that it is a whole new "phone" in sorts if you would call it that. Consider a new type of chip (not been tested much if at all), new fingerprint scanner (For Google its new and it SUCKS), a little larger phone AND I think a large portion of it is consider supply and demand with supplies with building a phone. Google has always aimed for the NEXT best thing, a sort of pioneer. I had the Pixel 5 and it was great for about 6 months then nothing but problems for me. My wife loves her 5 and doesn't like the 6. Although she can handle the little things that drive me nuts with the 5 and she can't stand the trade off for the 6, being larger and the finger print scanner that is limited to 5 unlocks a day before charging (due to the time it takes to get the hamster run fast enough on his wheel). This is just my 2 cents worth and not even worth that most of the time.
If you know of another phone manufacturer, that offers monthly updates (95%) of the time for a min of 2 years, Is vanilla android, and gets new Android versions 1st not to mention unlockable bootloaders for those who have to tinker, don't be greedy! I am sure there is a few of us that would consider trying another phone line up just to try if nothing else. Darn that is another nickels worth . OK I shut up now..
I will be happy to try beta 12L for my android tv devices. Most Android tv boxes are using out dated software.
But for the P6 it is a no for me. I just do not see any benefits for the P6.
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Seems Google is struggling with pixel 6 series.
First the critical Dec release was delayed/not yet reached to many ppl.
Secondly, no sign of 12L beta on pixel 6.
All is not well with 6 series.
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me neither, friend inside says the ongoing issues shouldn't have any impact or be any reason for 12L's delay for us! idk
Good news today
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Good news today
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You installed it?
Following
ATM not, maybe at this weekend.
Please write here if anyone install it. I have no WiFi for a third day, so I am thinking if installing 12L. Just want to be sure it's OK for a daily use. Main topics - how's WIFI, how's camera, how's battery life compare to regular 12 build. Thanks in advance!
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Please write here if anyone install it. I have no WiFi for a third day, so I am thinking if installing 12L. Just want to be sure it's OK for a daily use. Main topics - how's WIFI, how's camera, how's battery life compare to regular 12 build. Thanks in advance!
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I dont have those issues , if i had any i would allready installed it.
Maybe google is paying so much attention developping 12l that they forget to release stable android 12 updates...
I have already installed Android 12L. So fat Wi-Fi is working fine. Will give feedback after few days how's everything else.
How do you feel about your A53s 5G? Anything in this article ring true for you?
Is Samsung messing up the Galaxy A52s to sell the Galaxy A53?
Samsung is doing a pretty stellar job with its firmware updates lately. Then again, nothing is perfect. And although the ...
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I received March security update on March 14th on my A52s. I see no performance, battery or any other issues.
Anyway if Samsung messed with software on purpose i doubt all those users would go and buy newer Samsung phone again. It's a reach..
A52s is a better device anyway with 778G instead of that Exynos. And it has 3.5mm jack.
Well,my a52 became laggy.Don't know is it because of samsung updates or intalled/uninstalled apps during time or some google bul***** but it happened with every midrange I bought in the past...
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Well,my a52 became laggy.Don't know is it because of samsung updates or intalled/uninstalled apps during time or some google bul***** but it happened with every midrange I bought in the past...
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Well A52 has way slower CPU and i would advise against updating to newer Android on midrange phones anyway. Updating definitely does slow down phones, but it's not like Samsung is doing it on purpose..
Xiaomi for example isn't updating mid range phones to android 12, but instead offering new MIUI 13 coupled with Android 11. Samsung should start doing something like this.
Similar is with Windows i have couple of older machines that work great on 7, fast and snappy, but on 10 or 11 are just unusable.
I have a52s,my mistake I hope that one ui 4.1 will improve laggy animations and won't update my phone anymore...I have one question,is it possible to downgrade android and oneui to a11 and latest version of one ui 3 before a12?I have flashed via Odin last time I had Samsung but that was 5-6 years ago when I had a5...
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I have a52s,my mistake I hope that one ui 4.1 will improve laggy animations and won't update my phone anymore...I have one question,is it possible to downgrade android and oneui to a11 and latest version of one ui 3 before a12?I have flashed via Odin last time I had Samsung but that was 5-6 years ago when I had a5...
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Then i don't know i honestly don't have a problem. Did you try clearing cache from recovery, that's something i usually do every time i do a major update to newer version.
I believe it's possible to downgrade with Odin yes. Tutorial
When i bought A52s i instantly got the oneui 4 update and updated so i really can't compare it if it would work faster on oneui 3.
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Look like this article is outdated (can't see when it was written) as I got Android 12 with March security update and no issue at all for what I know and feel...
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How could you miss it? It was written yesterday. You can see it below the writer name near the picture
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How could you miss it? It was written yesterday. You can see it below the writer name near the picture
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It was updated yesterday, article is older, from 3-4 weeks ago if i remember correctly..
EDIT: now it seems they merged it into a new article..
Gaga Kanasta said:
I have a52s,my mistake I hope that one ui 4.1 will improve laggy animations and won't update my phone anymore...I have one question,is it possible to downgrade android and oneui to a11 and latest version of one ui 3 before a12?I have flashed via Odin last time I had Samsung but that was 5-6 years ago when I had a5...
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I patched the ap tar from the last 11 A528B firmware. Did an install of the patched ap, cp, bl, and the csc tar not home one. Presto i had 11 on phone rooted. Used zygisk and safety fix 2.2.1 and lposed zygisk and all is good. Firefds R and GravityBox R working great....so yes you can go back to 11 and I am fine with the dec security patch.
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How do you feel about your A53s 5G? Anything in this article ring true for you?
Is Samsung messing up the Galaxy A52s to sell the Galaxy A53?
Samsung is doing a pretty stellar job with its firmware updates lately. Then again, nothing is perfect. And although the ...
www.sammobile.com
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Did Apple not get sued, for doing something like this.. They made the phones batteries go south, just so people would buy a new one.. I'm planning dumping this phone by the end of next month.. I'm not sure what I'm getting but it will not be a A53.
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Did Apple not get sued, for doing something like this.. They made the phones batteries go south, just so people would buy a new one.. I'm planning dumping this phone by the end of next month.. I'm not sure what I'm getting but it will not be a A53.
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Not exactly like that:
Apple temporarily drops price of iPhone battery replacement, promises iOS update to address battery health in new apology
Apple today published an open letter on its website apologizing for how it handled performance on iPhones with older batteries,...
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in the end OneUI is just android and we know android updates are always a joke, see Pixel 6/Pro, Oxygen/ColorOS, MIUI and etc...
I've had no significant issues with my A52s after any of the updates, just the odd bug/glitch. I wonder how much of this is down to individual apps not behaving nicely with the update, giving the impression that the problem is with Samsung's software.