I know the problem looks similar but
I have a Fire HDX 7 that is not recognized by windows 7, two laptops. My huawei p9 is recognized perfectly. Recent amazon drivers are installed.
The device is not even visible in device manager, by can be charged by laptop. I have tried about 4-5 cables already on each of two laptops with win 7.
OS version 4.5.5.3
Any suggestion? Any way to check if it is hardware problem or software?
naixx said:
I know the problem looks similar but
I have a Fire HDX 7 that is not recognized by windows 7, two laptops. My huawei p9 is recognized perfectly. Recent amazon drivers are installed.
The device is not even visible in device manager, by can be charged by laptop. I have tried about 4-5 cables already on each of two laptops with win 7.
OS version 4.5.5.3
Any suggestion? Any way to check if it is hardware problem or software?
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If the HDX is not recognized in Windows Device Manager any of the three primary modes (unlocked FireOS, recovery and/or bootloader/fastboot) one of the data pins in the USB connector is likely damaged or otherwise nonfunctional. Be sure compatible drivers are available on the host; for whatever reason Motorola drivers seem to work best on Windows. Install the manager linked below; you do not need to launch it.
https://motorola-global-en-aus.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_detail/a_id/86934/p/154,4222
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If the HDX is not recognized in Windows Device Manager any of the three primary modes (unlocked FireOS, recovery and/or bootloader/fastboot) one of the data pins in the USB connector is likely damaged or otherwise nonfunctional. Be sure compatible drivers are available on the host; for whatever reason Motorola drivers seem to work best on Windows. Install the manager linked below; you do not need to launch it.
https://motorola-global-en-aus.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_detail/a_id/86934/p/154,4222
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Just tried that. No luck. Downgraded to 13.3.2.8 - no luck. It seems that the problem is with USB.
What I want is to install vanilla android on the device. It seems root can be acquired without USB, but bootloader not. So are there any good tutorials on how to take apart Kindle HDX 7? Checked youtube - not that detailed tutorials that I want probably.
Thinking to order a new USB and battery on aliexpress
naixx said:
Just tried that. No luck. Downgraded to 13.3.2.8 - no luck. It seems that the problem is with USB.
What I want is to install vanilla android on the device. It seems root can be acquired without USB, but bootloader not. So are there any good tutorials on how to take apart Kindle HDX 7? Checked youtube - not that detailed tutorials that I want probably.
Thinking to order a new USB and battery on aliexpress
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For the same appx cost you can probably score a gently used HDX 7. Cracking open a HDX is not for the faint of heart due to copious use of industrial strength glue. Good luck.
Blame it to all Quick Charge 2.0 and 3.0 Chargers!
I almost have the same problem, Back to my old stock locked bootlader, everything was working fine, i can conmect my KFH on my pc and i can aldo charge using my tronsmart QC 3.0 charger, all of the happy moment was gone, until i've managed to unlocked the bootlaser(limeage 14.1 installed), the first thing i did'nt notice about it, then one day my kindle charges so slow, and i even cant connect it to my pc, looks like ive been screwed up, im still searching for solutions.. any ideas?
ChickenKyrie said:
I almost have the same problem, Back to my old stock locked bootlader, everything was working fine, i can conmect my KFH on my pc and i can aldo charge using my tronsmart QC 3.0 charger, all of the happy moment was gone, until i've managed to unlocked the bootlaser(limeage 14.1 installed), the first thing i did'nt notice about it, then one day my kindle charges so slow, and i even cant connect it to my pc, looks like ive been screwed up, im still searching for solutions.. any ideas?
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HDX was not designed for higher voltage delivered by QC 3.0 chargers; may have fried some internals.
For reference, max uptake for a 3rd (and likely 4th) gen HDX is 9W/1.8A at 5V. That can be delivered by *ANY* decent charge brick rated at 2A or better. No need for a QC or other speciality charger. HDX devices can not take advantage of the capabilities of such chargers and may be damaged if proper voltage is not negotiated (i.e. anything significantly above 5V).
Seems my problem is usb connector
For anyone interested
The problem was in USB cable(the price about $8), I ordered a new one, replaced it and kindle is now fully recognized by windows!
Unfortunately, I've broken the glass So touch is not working for about 20% of the screen. So stupid mistake, pushed a little bit too much. Anyways I didn't use that kindle for at least 2 years, wanted to make it vanilla android
naixx said:
For anyone interested
The problem was in USB cable(the price about $8), I ordered a new one, replaced it and kindle is now fully recognized by windows!
Unfortunately, I've broken the glass So touch is not working for about 20% of the screen. So stupid mistake, pushed a little bit too much. Anyways I didn't use that kindle for at least 2 years, wanted to make it vanilla android
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For the benefit of future readers: crappy cables are the root cause of most HDX USB connectivity issues. A cable that works in some scenarios (charging; adb) may not work in others (fastboot). No one wants to believe this as a cable is a cable, right? What could go wrong?? Read through 5+ years of posts where the eureka moment occurs only after swapping out the umbilical cord.
FWIW - I did not suggest a cable to the OP as he/she stated "4-5 cables" were already tried.
Davey126 said:
For the benefit of future readers: crappy cables are the root cause of most HDX USB connectivity issues. A cable that works in some scenarios (charging; adb) may not work in others (fastboot). No one wants to believe this as a cable is a cable, right? What could go wrong?? Read through 5+ years of posts where the eureka moment occurs only after swapping out the umbilical cord.
FWIW - I did not suggest a cable to the OP as he/she stated "4-5 cables" were already tried.
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Sorry, there is some misunderstanding. I replaced usb port, not cable
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Sorry, there is some misunderstanding. I replaced usb port, not cable
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Ah - I did misunderstand. Thanks for the clarification! This item (cause) was suggested in an earlier post. Glad you got it fixed - albeit not without panel damage. Tough break after getting it open w/o cracking the case or screen.
Wow, I was hoping that it was just the cable as in your first response (still agreed with DB126 that the usb cable is usually the problem in these situations). But it looks like this time it's the actual port. I am not happy to hear this. My cable works for adb with my pixel 2xl, so it's probably not the cable. :'(
Any ideas on how to fix the port without breaking my HDX like the OP did? I don't want to open it up if I can help it. Perhaps I can use a circuit tester to see which pin is not working well, and possibly bend it or otherwise fix it manually without replacing?
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Updating with just the patched classes, instead of the update.zip due to complaints. Inside you will find the source to the app (yeah doing it in Settings.apk would be better, I'm being lazy) and the modified classes for services.jar. This is not working yet, it is being uploaded so other devs can tinker as well. We need kernel source before this will work, more than likely.
Issues known:
->breaks dock support.
Needs:
-> Drivers
-> ??
Cable Details:
GizmoDroid said:
From what I have gathered, there are three common types of cables most people might have hiding in their closet. There are multiple devices that use these types of cables, but most of them tend to follow those pinouts. If we definitively find out the right layout, you can mod a cable you already have, or get them for dirt cheap off of ebay/monoprice (fully recommended, they have nice cables for cheap).
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A) Samsung Galaxy S official cable, Nokia (cable #CA-75U), cables that come with most Media Players (Archos, Gigabeat, Creative, Zen Vision, Cowon iAudio, Apple iBook)
B) Standard Camcorder cable -This is the most likely kind that you'd find at a store if it doesn't specify what it is for.
C) Zune
D) iPod Video
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Some cables you already have can be used without modding the cable, even if the pinout isn't the same.
Type B/C/D device with a different Type B/C/D cable
By plugging the video plug into one of the audio channels, and vice versa, you can swap the signal without cutting your cable. Refer to the chart to see which audio channel to plug the video into.
Type B device with a Type A cable
Plug the cable in all the way, then pull it out one notch. You will have only one working audio channel though, so this will sacrifice audio quality.
[Size=+0]What type do I have?[/Size]
If you have a multimeter, it is easy to find which type of cable you have. Set your multimeter to resistance (ohms). Put one lead on an RCA signal pin, then touch the other to each of the 4 spots on 3.5mm jack. Whichever one shows ~0 ohms means that that RCA signal is connected to that spot on the jack. Some MM have a continuity mode that will beep whenever you make a closed circuit. This is easier since you don't have to look at the MM while you are doing this.
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jcase said:
Status:
I have no phone yet, this will improve once it gets here (this week? damn slow ebayers).
Patches Applied
Kernel /init.rc
->patch applied to run tvoutserver as a system service
services.jar /ServerThread.class
->patch applied to see the tvoutservice
services.jar /HeadsetObserver.class
->patch applied to properly detect rca cable
App
->applies needed setting, launches hidden tvout settings menu
Issues known:
->breaks dock support.
Our tests were inconclusive, as we only had one cable of an unknown pinout and one tester. We have gotten rid of all errors, the device sees the cable now, runs the service and communicates with the service.
Patch is for Superclean based on eb01 with voodoo. I am not responsible for any thing that happens due to this patch. Please don't apply unless you know what you are doing and can recover a "soft brick" on your own.
Patch
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8699733/apks/tvoutpatch001.zip
App
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8699733/apks/BallmerPeakTVOut.apk
Please report back any crashes, failures or for sure if it works.
Please report the type of cable you used, if it worked or not and if known the pinout.
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What the!!!??
Have you actually gotten to see anything on the screen yet?? I'm going to bust this out and try it now. I have my own cable that has been sitting in the packaging for weeks just waiting for someone to come out with this. I will test it out and report back shortly. I have no qualms about bringing my Fascinate back from the dead if I bork it ...
If this works, and something actually shows up on the TV, super big thanks!
Wait as in a micro usb to composite/component? HDMI?
Wait, wha? This would be awesome!
Before I blow $40 on cable ... do you know if this is supposed to only work for analog NTSC output or if HDMI output over the microUSB is one of the available options?
edit: sorry finakechi, you beat me to it.
Subscribed.
3.5mm to RCA, we haven't gotten output to the screen. I ordered a grip of cables and a fascinate, but it wont be til friday when I can test it.
Testing shows it seems to work, and nolonger errors. We just haven't gotten output. I posted here with hopes of someone having a working cable with the right pinout, or another dev picking up interest and joining us.
the usb to hdmi cable is to costly and I won't be looking into it unless someone sends me one. I think RCA is good enough.
I know we have two cables at work that are from two different digital cameras..they both work with their respective cameras but only one works with the fascinate and the vibrant phones we have here... the pinout looks the same though... so you may be getting output and you just don't know it yet.
Got an error report:
<fuzzhead> i do think your app/patch is kind of working or trying to work though. i opened gallery and video player and both fc'ed while i was playing with rcas. leads me to believe it was trying to output
If someone with experience using logcat can reproduce this, and get me the log it would greatly help.
kmalinich said:
I know we have two cables at work that are from two different digital cameras..they both work with their respective cameras but only one works with the fascinate and the vibrant phones we have here... the pinout looks the same though... so you may be getting output and you just don't know it yet.
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What do you mean works on the fascinate?
I have this EXACT cable. Will test out in the next 24 hours. If this cable doesn't work, nothing will.
Syn Ack said:
I have this EXACT cable. Will test out in the next 24 hours. If this cable doesn't work, nothing will.
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If the cable doesnt work, switch out the wires, it might not be yellow that is video out. Also if it doesnt work, then we just investigate further.
jcase said:
What do you mean works on the fascinate?
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damn, that was a hell of a typo. I meant captivate
kmalinich said:
damn, that was a hell of a typo. I meant captivate
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Hahaha. That is a little bit of an "oopsie."
Edit: Well, this is weird. I installed the patch, and now it's doing the robotic female voice and taking forever to reboot. I wiped caches and such, but I don't remember changing any voodoo settings ... hmm. Yeah, it's still talking to me. Weird. We'll see what happens. I'm on EB01, but not a superclean. Suppose locking up a phone is as good a reason as any to try a new ROM.
Well, after a successful boot, the app indeed runs and lets me change settings without any apparent issues - no force closes, etc. I have the mini jack to the three RCA breakout cables. It's the Dynex brand from Best Buy (purchased when I still had employee discount, of course!) With TV Out enabled or disabled (I tested PAL and NTSC both just for fun) I couldn't get the TV to display any audio or video regardless of how I plugged each cable in - red, white, or yellow. I am going to have to find some cable clamps and do some individual circuit testing and see if it's send out any signal at all, and trace it. It should at least be sending out some kind of audio, because I tested regular stereo headphones, and they still work. I'm excited to monkey around with this a bit. If I can narrow down which signal is going where on the 3.5 to RCA adapter cable I have, I can at least detect, hopefully, that audio is still being sent properly, and even more hopefully, if there is a pos/neg combo that will magically be a video signal. No more time to work on this tonight though.
Thankyou, jcase. I am waited for it, will beta test it as soon as get my cable.
djp952 said:
Wait, wha? This would be awesome!
Before I blow $40 on cable ... do you know if this is supposed to only work for analog NTSC output or if HDMI output over the microUSB is one of the available options?
edit: sorry finakechi, you beat me to it.
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Before anyone overpays for a cable:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=3.5mm+to+RCA&x=0&y=0
O this would be awesome if it works! I'm following this.
I already have the cable, it's a generic from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000I1D0BW
Will test and report. I think I love you.
Not all cables will have the correct pinout (which we dont know what it is).
Damn, jcase. First you help me with my Droid and now that I got a Fascinate you help with that too!
I tried to find a spare USB cable for the Eee Pad and no luck. It makes me nervous to have a proprietary format cable without a spare.
Considering how difficult is to the get an Eee Pad, I wonder how to get the cable...
Thanks!
Q
Q.Entity said:
I tried to find a spare USB cable for the Eee Pad and no luck. It makes me nervous to have a proprietary format cable without a spare.
Considering how difficult is to the get an Eee Pad, I wonder how to get the cable...
Thanks!
Q
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Ditto, i like to be able to just plug in wherever i could be without carrying cable..(work/car/home. I thik i have 5 power bricks for my thinkpad....)
worminater said:
Ditto, i like to be able to just plug in wherever i could be without carrying cable..(work/car/home. I thik i have 5 power bricks for my thinkpad....)
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Just wait a little bit, the galaxy tab also had a proprietary plug and now ebay is flooded with adapter/plug/charger, i guess we will see more accessories when stock will be easily available...
You are right. Things always how up once the supply gets going... I wish they did not have a proprietary cable. I understand why they did it but...
I'm a little disappointed they didn't just use MicroUSB.... then and again, I don't think any of the tablets on the market currently do?
Putzy said:
I'm a little disappointed they didn't just use MicroUSB.... then and again, I don't think any of the tablets on the market currently do?
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just about all the cheap ones do (i think some have mini-usb) also the archos, xoom, i believe the iconia has a full usb port...
it would have been nice to include an extra cable with the dock.
Q.Entity said:
You are right. Things always how up once the supply gets going... I wish they did not have a proprietary cable. I understand why they did it but...
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An OEM that releases a device that uses a proprietary cable to supply the device with power IMHO has a responsibility to see to it that customers can readily purchase replacement cables. People do lose/break things and without a way to charge the TF it's an expensive paper weight. I hope Asus is listening & will rectify this situation quickly, I'd love to purchase a backup cable.
I would like to have another one so I can have one at home and one at work. I forgot the cable at home today and now can't connect it to my computer here at work.
n25philly said:
I would like to have another one so I can have one at home and one at work. I forgot the cable at home today and now can't connect it to my computer here at work.
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You cant use bluetooth or wifi instead?
stuntdouble said:
You cant use bluetooth or wifi instead?
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No Bluetooth on my computer. Is it possible to transfer files over wifi?
n25philly said:
No Bluetooth on my computer. Is it possible to transfer files over wifi?
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I use ES File Explorer to transfer files between my pc and my HTC Desire, it works very well.
http://is.gd/RFqLzh
UKseagull said:
I use ES File Explorer to transfer files between my pc and my HTC Desire, it works very well.
http://is.gd/RFqLzh
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Thank you, I'm going to give it a try now.
sackofnoise said:
Just wait a little bit, the galaxy tab also had a proprietary plug and now ebay is flooded with adapter/plug/charger, i guess we will see more accessories when stock will be easily available...
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Problem with the galaxy tab is it uses a connector that is very similar to Apples connector except that the pin backplane is reversed, which wouldn't be hard to change for manufacturers of non-licensed Apple connectors
http://fatmixx.com/tag/pdmi/
While Asus's cable connector is probably made in house and proprietary
so who knows how long it will take for others to make knockoffs of the connectors
It would have been nice if Asus included a micousb connector on the transformer at least for charging and data sync
I created a folder on my Windows PC desktop and 'shared' it, then in ES Lan added a new server using the IP address of my PC.
On Back-Order
http://www.excaliberpc.com/606705/asus-transformer-tf101-ac-adapter.html
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Definitely hoping they'll release the official cables soon or allow 3rd party to make them. Kinda sucks when my cable broke and no other ways to charge the darn thing.
Really having a hard time only having one cable, and especially since it is a cheap feeling one to start with
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
somewhat insane to not have even power cords available at launch. Shame on your asus.
SlimDan22 said:
On Back-Order
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30 dollars!? I'll wait for the 3rd party cables.
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30 dollars!? I'll wait for the 3rd party cables.
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Thats what i thought too, but i need to charge it in my car, and it wont charge with any of my cigarette lighter USB chargers because it uses the damn special charger from Asus
Either i wait for a car charger or just buy another charging pack and hook it up to a power inverter in my car
I really wish they would have just used a standard USB connector instead of a USB 3.0 one
I already had 11 HTCs and this is the fisrt time I am having this problem
When I have my Flyer in plugged into my computer , the computer will NOT recognise that I plugged Flyer in. Normally it should make a sound and start to install it.
But the thing is my PC will not even recognise the Flyer is plugged in, no sounds, no installing. However the Flyer will start charging......
This has never happened to me before
I have the latest version of HTC sync and my PC easily recognises my other HTCs.
Anybody have an idea why ?
Since Flyer has a different cable plug, I do not have any other cables to try it with........
did you switch from charge only to disk drive or htc sync from the status bar? if not, pull down your status bar and click on "charge only", then mount it or sync it and hit done. it should then recognize it. hope this helps.
I told you , this is my 11th HTC , I tried all these methods, I am looking for something irregular, extraordinary which I didn`t try .
The only two options I have now are :
1) Buy a new HTC data cable (which I can not get hold off very easily)
2) Hard reset the FLYER
I am looking for another idea before I hard reset this Flyer
Anybody knows how to bring thisCONNECTION TYPE screen up on my FLYER , without plugging cable into USB of the computer.
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Should be in the Settings page under "Connect To PC"
nope . the settings there but this screen normally comes on when I plug it in to my PC , I want to bring this screen up without the USB plug in
doublecheese said:
This has never happened to me before
I have the latest version of HTC sync and my PC easily recognises my other HTCs.
Anybody have an idea why ?
Since Flyer has a different cable plug, I do not have any other cables to try it with........
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it might be sounds crazy, but have you try shifting your cable into another USB port? I had the same problem in the past, and I solved shifting the front USB into a back USB port. for me it helps.....you can give a try!
Pull up your Control Panel, go to Device Manager and check to see if it is being recognized in the device list
If it is not, then there is your problem....if it is, then have to try something else...
ovigt71 said:
it might be sounds crazy, but have you try shifting your cable into another USB port? I had the same problem in the past, and I solved shifting the front USB into a back USB port. for me it helps.....you can give a try!
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Yeah I thought of that too but no go ....
@lowfire82
Nope , it's not tecognised and I already mentioned that
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@lowfire82
Nope , it's not tecognised and I already mentioned that
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I understand you mentioned that, but the same thing happened with my Inc2 when I got it, nothing was recognized, no sounds, nothing show in My Computer but I could find an instance in the device manager of something no coming in correctly. That is why I asked if you had looked there as well...my apologies
No problem
It`s very strange .
Although it is connected and charging, my computer will NOT recognise it.
I am thinking that a Hard Reset will solve the problem. If I had another cable I could try replacing the cable but the Flyer is new and no cables around so easily ....
I think a Hard Reset is the next step , but now I must copy the data of the Internal storage of Flyer into my SD Card.
Have you checked the HTC support website.
An updated version of Sync has been posted specifically for the Flyer.
It looks as if a driver was at fault.
Yes I did ofcourse
My problem is that my PC will not recognise if an USB device attached or not , normally it should say "A New Device inserted" , it is not even saying this ...
But my PC , it works with my all other devices !!!
Strange .......
doublecheese said:
No problem
It`s very strange .
Although it is connected and charging, my computer will NOT recognise it.
I am thinking that a Hard Reset will solve the problem. If I had another cable I could try replacing the cable but the Flyer is new and no cables around so easily ....
I think a Hard Reset is the next step , but now I must copy the data of the Internal storage of Flyer into my SD Card.
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sorry can´t help, but just one funny thing here:
i´m not able to connect/sync my old wizard and rhodium on windows xp and win7(but they are charging), my flyer is connecting without problems...
steph
Now I will hard reset and let`s see what happens !!!
I know I should get ready for a "yes I already tried that" response, but have you tried any of your other HTC cables on the Flyer? It will sync and charge (just slower charging) with any Micro USB cable.
Well i tried the cables of my Sensation, Incredible S and DHD (actually they are all the same) and these cables do not fit in the Flyer's socket.
I have already ordered a new Flyer cable and will be here in the morning
But I never thought of trying a regular micro usb cable as I thought the socket of the micro usb wouldn't fit either.
Yup, a standard micro usb fits fine, just a tad difficult to figure out. The wider part of the micro connector goes toward the back of the flyer and the narrower side towards the screen. It definietly does not have the proper snug feel of the included tabbed cable, but it does work. I use one at work to transfer files to the Flyer.
Have you try with another computer?
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Have you try with another computer?
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LOL as a Tech Support rep ^^^ this.
Hey guys, recently bought an Onda V811 Quad Core android tablet (a Chinese tablet).
2-3 days ago i could charge through USB cable plugged into a laptop and a AC adapter to charge on the wall.
But the next day i couldn't charge, i tried plugging the USB in the laptop and the wall charger and it still didn't charge.
My tablet still has 11% of battery left, My tablet works fine, everything works fine smooth and brilliant, it's just the fact that i cannot charge through my USB cable anymore. idk why =(.
I could turn it on and everything is functional, except battery charging.
I also tried hard reset and factory reseting, that didn't work either.
is anyone here at XDA an expert at tablet repairs/fixing? that can help me?
That would be much appreciated. Thank you
Link to the tablet i bought: http://www.onda-tablet.com/onda-v811-quad-core-android-tablet-pc-wifi-hd-ips-screen-2160p-16gb.html
moomoopobo said:
Hey guys, recently bought an Onda V811 Quad Core android tablet (a Chinese tablet).
2-3 days ago i could charge through USB cable plugged into a laptop and a AC adapter to charge on the wall.
But the next day i couldn't charge, i tried plugging the USB in the laptop and the wall charger and it still didn't charge.
My tablet still has 11% of battery left, My tablet works fine, everything works fine smooth and brilliant, it's just the fact that i cannot charge through my USB cable anymore. idk why =(.
I could turn it on and everything is functional, except battery charging.
I also tried hard reset and factory reseting, that didn't work either.
is anyone here at XDA an expert at tablet repairs/fixing? that can help me?
That would be much appreciated. Thank you
Link to the tablet i bought: http://www.onda-tablet.com/onda-v811-quad-core-android-tablet-pc-wifi-hd-ips-screen-2160p-16gb.html
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1) Try a new microusb cable
2) Try another USB port from laptop
3) Reboot the tablet, and if the problem still there, try at least, off-mode charging
Well, finally , if you does not resolve the problem, seems that you have an hardware ,,error,, (short..), so go to a service.
Well, i have just tried everything you listed, doesn't work, i guess its either the battery is dead or the port has something wrong or wires wrong.
B ut then again, if the battery is dead, how come i can still use my tablet with its 10% now left?
MaDaLiNoSt said:
1) Try a new microusb cable
2) Try another USB port from laptop
3) Reboot the tablet, and if the problem still there, try at least, off-mode charging
Well, finally , if you does not resolve the problem, seems that you have an hardware ,,error,, (short..), so go to a service.
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Well i do know that it isn't the chargers fault, since i am using a charger from Xperia SP phone, it chargers perfectly on my phone, but when i plug it into the tablet, it doesn't charge. And i also tried using the normal tablet charger, but still no use. Can't charge at all :'(
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moomoopobo said:
Well i do know that it isn't the chargers fault, since i am using a charger from Xperia SP phone, it chargers perfectly on my phone, but when i plug it into the tablet, it doesn't charge. And i also tried using the normal tablet charger, but still no use. Can't charge at all :'(
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Now i understeand that the problem it`s coming from the tablet, more exacty from the charger microusb port.
Solution: Buy an universal battery charger from an elecetonics store, and everything would be ok.
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So everytime when you battery discharges, recharge it out from the tablet. Pleasse Hit thanks !
MaDaLiNoSt said:
Now i understeand that the problem it`s coming from the tablet, more exacty from the charger microusb port.
Solution: Buy an universal battery charger from an elecetonics store, and everything would be ok.
Something like that:
So everytime when you battery discharges, recharge it out from the tablet. Pleasse Hit thanks !
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Wait, hold on, could you possibly give me a link on any websites to buy it from Ebay?
And thanks for that help, i will thanks you up!~ ^^
and could you tell me in detail how i can use the battery charger properly etc.?
Thanks alot, i will give you thanks for that post too for helping me out ><
moomoopobo said:
Wait, hold on, could you possibly give me a link on any websites to buy it from Ebay?
And thanks for that help, i will thanks you up!~ ^^
and could you tell me in detail how i can use the battery charger properly etc.?
Thanks alot, i will give you thanks for that post too for helping me out ><
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Here you go: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...um-battery-3-7v-4500mah/315565_898803195.html
But it seems like will be hard for instalation, because it have wires with it. So i think it will replaced on tablet`s hardware.
If you does not know what are you do, call an Onda Service. Helped you?
P.S. : This product does not exist on ebay store.
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moomoopobo said:
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and could you tell me in detail how i can use the battery charger properly etc.?
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Well, you just put the battery in, then connect it to a wall socket, and wait until an LED flashes.
BUT this solution won`t work for you because, it seems that your battery it`s integrated in tablet`s hardware.
No sense in wasting any money. The usb port on the tab is probably bad,or the voltage regulation part. I will assume the port is the same for both USB and Wall Charge? If so, there's a hardware malfunction on the tablet.
If you can not return it for an exchange or the warranty is expired, then you could possibly open the tablet and look for any type of loose connection near the USB port.
Does the PC still recognize it when you plug in the USB?
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No sense in wasting any money. The usb port on the tab is probably bad,or the voltage regulation part. I will assume the port is the same for both USB and Wall Charge? If so, there's a hardware malfunction on the tablet.
If you can not return it for an exchange or the warranty is expired, then you could possibly open the tablet and look for any type of loose connection near the USB port.
Does the PC still recognize it when you plug in the USB?
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The PC doesn't recognize it at all, and the port is used for both the USB and Wall Charge.
So you assume that it is hardware malfunction, so would it be the ports fault or the battery with the wires connected to the motherboard's fault?
moomoopobo said:
The PC doesn't recognize it at all, and the port is used for both the USB and Wall Charge.
So you assume that it is hardware malfunction, so would it be the ports fault or the battery with the wires connected to the motherboard's fault?
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Could be either. The port itself is bad, or a connection to the port. Without opening it up, you wouldn't know. Either way, if its under warranty, I would return it,
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Could be either. The port itself is bad, or a connection to the port. Without opening it up, you wouldn't know. Either way, if its under warranty, I would return it,
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Oh i opened it up before and checked, but i didn't unscrew the motherboard since the ports were upside down, so i couldn't check whether the port or the battery was wrong.
Got my Moto 360 2015 today and quickly realized that the main block to us getting any development on this is that we don't have a way to access it with a computer. I did a partial [very partial] tear down and noticed several pins that could be a usb interface. My question is what would be the most logical way of figuring out what pins do what?
P.S. I know there is a lot of talk about if there is a hidden speaker or not, while I wasn't able to get the watch apart enough to answer definitively it does look like the slot on the side corresponds to a hole under the plastic back... hopefully we'll know more soon.
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Posting this image for smartphone. Couldn't get it posted on his account.
I can't find the pins,,can you find it?
Hey,
Do you have some more information about the pinout? I have the same watch and I want to try connect it to USB, because I can't switch it on, and maybe with USB I can start some recovery mode or something like this.
I also found other "test pads" below the plastic cover with antenna. I found some pins, that I am sure about function. Below I wrote two links to images (I can't add attachment to post - just remove the spaces from the address below):
menuet. no-ip. biz/ images/ moto_360_2015_pinout_back.png
menuet. no-ip. biz/ images/ moto_360_2015_pinout.png
Here is description of pins on the images:
1-Power switch; 2-?; 3-?; 4-Battery; 5-?; 6-GND;
A1-?; A2-?; A3-Antenna; A4-?; A5-USB5V; A6-GND
Maybe you have some other info how to switch on this watch?
Best regards,
menuet
I know this is so old... but maybe someone that is passionate about electronics could find a way to connect usb cable...
There must be a way... The bootloader says this..
I was thinking that in @menuet pictures, A1, A2, A5, A6 could be the 4 wires that should connect to a usb cable
If you're looking to send adb commands to the watch why not use Bluetooth debugging?
https://developer.android.com/training/wearables/apps/bt-debugging.html
I know that... I was hoping to find a way to make a usb cable like for the first generation, and in this way to unlock the bootloader, root...etc...
The 1st gen had pogo pins -- have you checked the corresponding location of the second gen? I'm interested to find out if the layout is the same (although completely enclosed by the case).
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The 1st gen had pogo pins -- have you checked the corresponding location of the second gen? I'm interested to find out if the layout is the same (although completely enclosed by the case).
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No, didn't checked yet... I don't want to disaasembly my watch yet.. I just added some comments, maybe someone has already an old/broken watch an can check the pins...
@icysea and @SmartphoneER and @menuet posted some pictures that might be helpful...
I don't know electronics. I am just a programmer. BUt I asked one of my colleagues that knows, and he told me that doesn't recognize the new look of the wires...
I think that they made a special cable to access the bootloader...
P.S. I attached, @menuet 's pictures...
Thank you....
UPDATE:
found the full disassembly process: http://it.sohu.com/20160126/n435898447.shtml. It has more technical details...
I remember the white latex-covered finger tips. I came across this teardown a while ago but couldn't find it again.
hei... let's work together and find those PINS... Maybe someone has a broken watch that can use to find out where are the pins for an USB cable...
Motorola did a great job with hiding the pins, but everything that is done by human can be hacked by human....
Some more research done by me:
Maybe we can use some pogo pins (like those attached) to make contact on that golden contacts bands (numbered A5 -A6 etc.) . Now, @menuet found the 5V as A5, and the ground as A6. WE still have 3 more tries (A1, A2, A4) for the data+ and data- from the SUB scheme. I don't know if something will break if we don't guess from the first time the right arrangement, (and we switch data- with data+ ).
And we can make something to hold those pogo pins stabilized (see that sketch made in paint)
Maybe this will be helpful for someone with a broken watch or already disassembled watch
found one more disassembly:
http://www.btspeaker.cn/thread-7582-1-1.html
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Also, seems like swapping the D+ and D- from the USB scheme, doesn't do any harm. Maybe someone can try this. I would have tried on my watch, but I am from Romania and my watch was bought from US. So, no warranty. And it's still functional, and working great....
See here for more details:
http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/73295/in-a-usb-cable-is-it-ok-to-swap-the-d-and-d-wires
This is going to sound weird but I have the second gen and it does appear to have an unlocked bootloader. I noticed because I bought this watch used and I couldn't update. The thing is the guy I bought it from didn't do it. The plastic ring is still on the watch so I don't understand how this was done unless they accessed the pins. Can you even do that over Bluetooth?
I'm posting here because I would need help in regards to this. Otherwise I'm screwed I guess.
You cannot enter fastboot commands through bluetooth... So, the only plausible reason will be that someone, somehow made an interface and unlocked the device..
P.S.
And this will be a very good information... I am waiting for so long for this to happen..
eltigre4jc said:
Some more research done by me:
Maybe we can use some pogo pins (like those attached) to make contact on that golden contacts bands (numbered A5 -A6 etc.) . Now, @menuet found the 5V as A5, and the ground as A6. WE still have 3 more tries (A1, A2, A4) for the data+ and data- from the SUB scheme. I don't know if something will break if we don't guess from the first time the right arrangement, (and we switch data- with data+ ).
And we can make something to hold those pogo pins stabilized (see that sketch made in paint)
Maybe this will be helpful for someone with a broken watch or already disassembled watch
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I am almost completely sure that the interface cable has to be built, upon those golden contacts.. If the original poster still has the watch or someone else, that has a broken watch., maybe can try to make an interface..
P.S. a link with another teardown, this time for Moto Sport http://imgur.com/a/yFb4s
eltigre4jc said:
Some more research done by me:
Maybe we can use some pogo pins (like those attached) to make contact on that golden contacts bands (numbered A5 -A6 etc.) . Now, @menuet found the 5V as A5, and the ground as A6. WE still have 3 more tries (A1, A2, A4) for the data+ and data- from the SUB scheme. I don't know if something will break if we don't guess from the first time the right arrangement, (and we switch data- with data+ ).
And we can make something to hold those pogo pins stabilized (see that sketch made in paint)
Maybe this will be helpful for someone with a broken watch or already disassembled watch
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3965954&d=1481526286
These may in fact serve as the pogo pins found on the 1 gen watch.
stevemw said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3965954&d=1481526286
These may in fact serve as the pogo pins found on the 1 gen watch.
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Gosh, this is awkward. Well guys, i contacted Motorola and gave them pictures of my watch and they say I got a Prototype Watch.
My bootloader is already unlocked on this watch but there is very old user-build firmware installed. I would like to flash the latest one, but as i read this here, its not possible without an USB connection right?
Edit: my watch is also rooted! I debugged it with bluetooth and tried to shell it. I tried ls the /system dir which failed. But after i su'd it listed me the system directory and all files in it.
I removed the plastic ring from my watch so i am able to see the golden contacts now, and I am ready to try to create an interface if someone teaches me how to do that.
My aim is to flash a custom recovery to it like twrp. I noticed there is a moto 360 twrp recovery, so i guess it shouldnt be to hard to port this to the second edition right?
Edit: I am going to create an interface cable with that 4 pins..
Two pins I know, GND and 5V. The other two pins i will need to find out, but basically, if i found the correct ones and they are connected to the watch and the watch is in bootloader, and i do fastboot devices i should see the watch as fastboot device right? (To make sure the interface works ofc.)
I built an interface, but its not recognizing USB. It says unknown device, error while getting device descriptor or something like that. But I only get that device popping up in device manager when i am using pin A1 (no matter Data+ or data-). If i use A2 and a4 for example, then this device doesnt even pop up in device manager. So i guess A1 is for sure either data+ or data-
When it comes to driver stuff now i have no clue. I tried updating the driver and navigated to google usb driver located in android_sdk\extras\google but it said best fitting drivers were already installed...
So i got no clue what to do next now..
Yothri said:
I built an interface, but its not recognizing USB. It says unknown device, error while getting device descriptor or something like that. But I only get that device popping up in device manager when i am using pin A1 (no matter Data+ or data-). If i use A2 and a4 for example, then this device doesnt even pop up in device manager. So i guess A1 is for sure either data+ or data-
When it comes to driver stuff now i have no clue. I tried updating the driver and navigated to google usb driver located in android_sdk\extras\google but it said best fitting drivers were already installed...
So i got no clue what to do next now..
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Thank for trying.. Now, can you, put a picture of the interface you built? And also, can you try to attach the watch through USB to a fresh system, that has no previously installed drivers?
Maybe you can look for drivers for the version one of the watch....