3% drain per hour IDLE mode normal? - Xiaomi Mi Pad Questions & Answers

This is on a Mi Pad 1, with RR Remix 5.85 ROM. I checked BBS and all is good - no crazy wakelocks, and real deep sleep all the way. Despite all these, it still drains 3% when in deep slp.
Is this normal?

Sounds a tad too much mate. Install forcedoze if it would help a bit.
There seems to be quite a lot standby drainage in every custom rom but 3%/h is quite a lot. I think I have around 5-10% loss during the night which is still too much imo. I have RR 7.1.2 Shield blobs version.

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[Q] Too Many Wakelocks...

I just got my G3 yesterday but the battery drains so quickly. I rooted and added BBS and there are so many sensors and such kept awake. In just wanted to see if anyone has a clue,what I should do to contain these.
tomkins0752 said:
I just got my G3 yesterday but the battery drains so quickly. I rooted and added BBS and there are so many sensors and such kept awake. In just wanted to see if anyone has a clue,what I should do to contain these.
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Kernel wakelocks don't keep the device awake per se. Those are processes that run when the screen is on. That's why the duration of all of them is almost the same. There's not going to be much you can do about those until/if custom kernels come along. You can try a factory reset, though I don't think it will help.
You should focus on partial wakelocks since those keep the CPU on when the screen is off.
hawkswind1 said:
Kernel wakelocks don't keep the device awake per se. Those are processes that run when the screen is on. That's why the duration of all of them is almost the same. There's not going to be much you can do about those until/if custom kernels come along. You can try a factory reset, though I don't think it will help.
You should focus on partial wakelocks since those keep the CPU on when the screen is off.
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This list for kernel wakelocks goes on for a while. The partial wakelocks are minimal, but whatever is causing these kernel wakelocks is whats causing the device to get warm, and subsequently draining the battery at an accelerated rate (roughly 7%+ per hour with minimal usage.)
I have never before seen such an extensive list from BBS on any of my other devices. Usually its the accumulator of all the partial wakelocks at the top of the list of kernel wakelocks by a large margin.
tomkins0752 said:
This list for kernel wakelocks goes on for a while. The partial wakelocks are minimal, but whatever is causing these kernel wakelocks is whats causing the device to get warm, and subsequently draining the battery at an accelerated rate (roughly 7%+ per hour with minimal usage.)
I have never before seen such an extensive list from BBS on any of my other devices. Usually its the accumulator of all the partial wakelocks at the top of the list of kernel wakelocks by a large margin.
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I'm with you. Been searching around for things I can freeze/hibernate to minimize wakelocks. Like stated earlier though we really need a custom kernel to get rid of a lot of those Kernel ones. The Partials aren't really that bad.
I have only had this phone since earlier today though so I'm keeping my eye on BBS like you are
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This phone does seemto have a ridiculous abou amount of activity going on. I had the dreaded (nlpcollectorwakelock) battery drain my first day but a reset took care of it. My battery had since calmed down and I'm getting good sot now. My android os stays at around 14-20%as well but a long as my sot is decent I'm not stressing anymore
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Yea mine is only draining at around 3% am hour with my use according to BBS.
That's just on WiFi and doing some browsing + Tapatalk+ a little YouTube.... So I can't complain.
It'll take a few charge cycles plus keeping an eye what else I can freeze and hibernate.
Considering the display on this thing that's pretty good I'm happy.... Be a little happier with a SaberMod ROM and Kernel though [emoji2]
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tomkins0752 said:
I just got my G3 yesterday but the battery drains so quickly. I rooted and added BBS and there are so many sensors and such kept awake. In just wanted to see if anyone has a clue,what I should do to contain these.
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My battery life is just as good as on my G2. Under normal (moderate/moderate-heavy) use I can get a day out of it easily. Yesterday I went to bed with about 44% left after over 13 hours use (with 2.75 hours of screen-on time).
I would recommend using CPU Spy to make sure the phone is going into Deep Sleep. There might be some process keeping it at a higher functioning state and not allowing the phone to hit Deep Sleep. For the most part, the phone should be in Deep Sleep longer than any other processor state.
I think a factory reset is in order. If that does not help you might just have a bad device, or a bad battery.
mrhumble1 said:
My battery life is just as good as on my G2. Under normal (moderate/moderate-heavy) use I can get a day out of it easily. Yesterday I went to bed with about 44% left after over 13 hours use (with 2.75 hours of screen-on time).
I would recommend using CPU Spy to make sure the phone is going into Deep Sleep. There might be some process keeping it at a higher functioning state and not allowing the phone to hit Deep Sleep. For the most part, the phone should be in Deep Sleep longer than any other processor state.
I think a factory reset is in order. If that does not help you might just have a bad device, or a bad battery.
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My phone is showing a huge number of sensors wakelocking the phone, and it was only in deep sleep 17% of the time since I unplugged it 6 hours ago. That kernel wakelock for the sensors needs to be fixed and then our battery life will be stupid good. You can't get as much screen on time on the G3 as I do on my G2. I was getting up to 10 hours of screen on time on my G2 the best i've managed was 3.5 on the G3. However, custom kernels will probably help there.
PWn3R said:
My phone is showing a huge number of sensors wakelocking the phone, and it was only in deep sleep 17% of the time since I unplugged it 6 hours ago. That kernel wakelock for the sensors needs to be fixed and then our battery life will be stupid good. You can't get as much screen on time on the G3 as I do on my G2. I was getting up to 10 hours of screen on time on my G2 the best i've managed was 3.5 on the G3. However, custom kernels will probably help there.
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The Sensor WakeLocks are quite ridiculous indeed, but what is your phone showing for Partial WakeLocks and Alarms in Better Battery Stats???
Only way I could get mine under control was to use App Ops to limit Google Play Services to NOT keep my phone Awake.
Then I located COM.LGE.IMS and disabled its Receivers then froze it.
Then I Greenify everything possible lol
That Com.LGE.ims thing was waking my phone like crazy, maybe 50-100 times an hour if I remember correctly and I don't even use the feature its tied into... WiFi Calling
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Battery Life

Hi everyone, iv'e bougth an OPX and 2 RMAS later i found out that the problems my phone had were all due to software, knowing that i rooted and started getting into the whole android world.
Everything went butter smooth and the problems that i had i easily fixed due to the amazing threads people make, but i think i have an battery draining issue, but then again i always like to find problems where they dont actually exist ( Every tech gadget i get has a problem until i make 100 threads and realize its just me). So i started of by flashing the blu_spark kernel on stock OOS and it was running amazing, but since i had so much at my disposition i decided to try some stuff, i went ahead and install the aswhins CM 13 and some Gapps, it was buggy as hell and i was finding it weird until i realized i had flashed the very first version . After getting the lastest one evry thing was running awsome but my battery life was alot worse than it usually was (on the blu_spark one), so i went on the CM13 thread and asked what was the kind of SoT time and overall performance of the battery and someone told me it averages around 3 hours SoT but that he had also runned the blu_spark kernel on the default OOS and it was alot better, so i got really happy i didnt have any problem and it was normal, after a while i wanted to just make sure and i decided to use my backup (which is stock everything) and then proceded to flash blu_spark kernel, to my suprise the battery life time was worse then on the CM 13 ROM, but then again theres a chance i was just paranoid and because i looked my at my battery life so much it started to seem like it, so after knowing my story i would like to know your guys SoT and battery loss over nigth.
Do you think a 1% battery loss every 3-5 minutes of youtube is normal? Thanks!
Martim_Bento said:
Do you think a 1% battery loss every 3-5 minutes of youtube is normal? Thanks!
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About 6-7 hours SoT, virtual 0,0% idle battery drain. If I go to sleep with 95%, I'll wake up with 95% (or 94, 93, if I have wifi or data turned on). Sorry, don't have screenshots here. Everything depends on your usage (I never play games, for example). If you know how to configure your kernel to your personal usage, you can get better life from your battery; search the threads of blu_spark and boeffla kernel to learn (and to see some ss from people with similar phone usage).
To virtual 0,0% of idle drain, you need Amplify; if you're interested, start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-nlpunbounce-reduce-nlp-wakelocks-t2853874
And here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-0-0-hour-idle-battery-drain-stock-t2973588
I have to charge my phone each 2 days, more or less (I use Greenify too).
Oh, and 1% in 5 minutes of youtube seems pretty normal to me.
Hope it helps.
Oedipus Rex said:
About 6-7 hours SoT, virtual 0,0% idle battery drain. If I go to sleep with 95%, I'll wake up with 95% (or 94, 93, if I have wifi or data turned on). Sorry, don't have screenshots here. Everything depends on your usage (I never play games, for example). If you know how to configure your kernel to your personal usage, you can get better life from your battery; search the threads of blu_spark and boeffla kernel to learn (and to see some ss from people with similar phone usage).
To virtual 0,0% of idle drain, you need Amplify; if you're interested, start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-nlpunbounce-reduce-nlp-wakelocks-t2853874
And here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-0-0-hour-idle-battery-drain-stock-t2973588
I have to charge my phone each 2 days, more or less (I use Greenify too).
Oh, and 1% in 5 minutes of youtube seems pretty normal to me.
Hope it helps.
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Ill give it a try, thank you.
Martim_Bento said:
Ill give it a try, thank you.
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I am using boeffla kernel with cm13 and idle battery drain is pretty much 0%. Last night, before sleeping it was 56%, morning it was at same level. I always turn off wifi-data before going to sleep. I use greenify and amplify as well. On wifi, my SOT is around 4-5.5 hrs. In LTE, its 2-3 hrs. LTE drains battery faster, so can't blame any ROM for that. I am satisfied with it. Whatever you try, give it 2-3 days, initial days of setting a ROM is always bad on battery.

4% per hour in deep sleep

Help me out with this crap, please!
I'm on rooted stock Oreo, not a heavy user, so no games, and no extra useless apps. No FB...
My V30+ doesn't go through the day even with light use. 30% is not enough for the night.
GSam says that the Kernel and Android OS are the major power suckers. The phone goes to deep sleep correctly according to Kernel Adiutor. I found out that Nord VPN is also a major powersucker, but I always turn it off and turn off wifi or mobile net also when not in use.
It consumes 4% per hour in deep sleep. Frikkin annoying. My unrooted Xiaomi Mi5 with stock Oreo goes through the night with 2-3% and is 1.5yrs older. The V30 can't make it with 25%.
I thought to change to LG V50, but all reviewers note the screen off high battery consumption.... so LG simply sucks with this.
Any solution for this on the V30?

Android 11 Battery drain discussion

Hey folks, see if this is the right forum to post this.
Like some other people on here and on reddit the latest Android 11 update C.57 caused a lot more battery drain on my device.
Before on A.46 my over night drain was about 2% which is good I think with Wifi on.
With Coloros 11 it can be over 10% drain over the course of 6-8 hours which is far more.
I have tried gather info from my phone which app is draining but it looks rather normal.
Even tried the adb command to force the phone get the phone to do the battery optimazation manually without luck, seems I have dont have the permission to make suchs commands through ADB with USB-debugging mode enabled..
However this morning I found in Settings>Battery>More Battery Settings>Optimize Battery Use
The whole list on every app there was set to "Always ask" and not "Optimize Automatically"
Now I changed every app to Optimize Automatically and will see how this affects the current drain.
I read somewhere that to the phone to get to this "state of battery optimazation" you need to have the phone in the right state to execute that which was Battery Full on Charger in idle mode not moving for a few hours.
So I thought if the battery optimazation settings where set to "always ask" (which it never did) this state maybe never happens?
Anyways feel free to share your battery settings and what Battery standby drains you guys got because I have been going a little nuts over this issue haha.
I wouldn't bother changing the battery optimisation settings, they seem to reset themselves.
I wasn't getting great battery life so finally did a factory reset. After a week the battery settled down and is now ok, probably around 5.5 hours screen time a day at qhd 120hz with always on display in from 8am to 11pm. I don't really check battery drain overnight, I will check it and report back.
__NBH__ said:
I wouldn't bother changing the battery optimisation settings, they seem to reset themselves.
I wasn't getting great battery life so finally did a factory reset. After a week the battery settled down and is now ok, probably around 5.5 hours screen time a day at qhd 120hz with always on display in from 8am to 11pm. I don't really check battery drain overnight, I will check it and report back.
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Yes I checked them again now after you mentioned it and they do seem to reset. However now my phone seems to work how it should, currently 3 hour screen on and 64% battery left. Wifi at home all day. Also the standy drain is night and day better now. Maybe this was a bug in Android 11 that kept it from optimize the apps?
I have adaptive on both refresh and resolution and same Always on time settings as you.
Robsjo said:
Yes I checked them again now after you mentioned it and they do seem to reset. However now my phone seems to work how it should, currently 3 hour screen on and 64% battery left. Wifi at home all day. Also the standy drain is night and day better now. Maybe this was a bug in Android 11 that kept it from optimize the apps?
I have adaptive on both refresh and resolution and same Always on time settings as you.
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Glad it's working better now. I do find the battery a bit inconsistent, some days it's great and others it goes down quickly. I've turned location off now as dont need it that much, I lost 3% overnight which seems good to me.
I really don't understand how you guys get such a low battery drain overnight.
On ColorOS 7 I had 10-12% drain overnight.
On ColorOS 11 it stayed the same. I have reset my phone, now it's about 7-8%.
This is with night optimization on in the settings. 5G disabled.
I always was able to get that 3% on my older OP 7 Pro. Even on my Realme X2 Pro, which had the same OS!
Also, my SOT is not that good. On mixed data/wifi I only usually get 3.5hrs SOT. After the reset its 4hrs now.
With 5G on it's unusable, even with good coverage here. (AccuBattery: 6hrs SOT, 57hrs standby, just very bad)
It's nice to have Dual SIM now with Singapore EX, but I cant use it, my battery just can't handle that.
I kept this phone just because the rest is awesome, but the battery is such a letdown.
I thought it was a SD865 problem, but I also had the Mi 10 and Poco F2 Pro as a secondary device without any drain problems.
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Glad it's working better now. I do find the battery a bit inconsistent, some days it's great and others it goes down quickly. I've turned location off now as dont need it that much, I lost 3% overnight which seems good to me.
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3% seems good.
However I had a big drain again over night so gonna try to set apps to optimize again.
It is indeed very inconsistent
Jordytjes said:
I really don't understand how you guys get such a low battery drain overnight.
On ColorOS 7 I had 10-12% drain overnight.
On ColorOS 11 it stayed the same. I have reset my phone, now it's about 7-8%.
This is with night optimization on in the settings. 5G disabled.
I always was able to get that 3% on my older OP 7 Pro. Even on my Realme X2 Pro, which had the same OS!
Also, my SOT is not that good. On mixed data/wifi I only usually get 3.5hrs SOT. After the reset its 4hrs now.
With 5G on it's unusable, even with good coverage here. (AccuBattery: 6hrs SOT, 57hrs standby, just very bad)
It's nice to have Dual SIM now with Singapore EX, but I cant use it, my battery just can't handle that.
I kept this phone just because the rest is awesome, but the battery is such a letdown.
I thought it was a SD865 problem, but I also had the Mi 10 and Poco F2 Pro as a secondary device without any drain problems.
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Yes I agree the battery drain is very weird with this OS.
Have you tried changing the settings in the battery optimize section? I turned on optimize automatically and then charged my phone full and let it sit for a while with charger plugged.
Try this and see if it gets better.
Its weird that the settings change after a while tho.
Just recently managed to use the phone and have to confirm ColorOS 11 is killing battery overnight, I have this for few weeks now so should be all optimised, yet still overnight is around 25-30% battery gone, my previous mate 20 pro was taking maybe 2-3% overnight so is massive hit. No notification is allowed, do not disturb on with wifi and mobile off, really weird is behave like something in the background was still on.
mine only about few percent but my battery life sucks at 4-5 hour ish

AICP Deep Sleep

I testing the AICP miatoll rom with my joyeuse phone, don't found any bug yet, ANX camera working, lot of customization options. The single thing what worried me, it's the battery backup. In 17hours (including night) was only 2% in deep sleep.
I ask if somebody can help to check why don't go in deep sleep, maybe a better kernel, or kernel settings...
vlouis said:
I testing the AICP miatoll rom with my joyeuse phone, don't found any bug yet, ANX camera working, lot of customization options. The single thing what worried me, it's the battery backup. In 17hours (including night) was only 2% in deep sleep.
I ask if somebody can help to check why don't go in deep sleep, maybe a better kernel, or kernel settings...
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A little update about "Deep sleep" and battery.
I found this great tool to check the battery consumption here:
[APP][2.2+][11 Dec. 2022 - V3.1] BetterBatteryStats
I started BetterBatteryStats because I was missing the great battery history that Spare Parts allowed to call on Froyo. It has been a long journey since the first version. BetterBatteryStats provides an insight in following categories: - General...
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I found a lot of "alarms" type wakeups (mostly "job.deadline"), and almost zero deep sleep time. Tried to change the kernel (to Positron) don't get any significant improvement. I loose 11% of battery in a single night. To compare with another rom, I installed the crDroid 7.2, and it's a major difference. With screen off over 90% time in deep sleep, loosing only 1% battery in night time.
I don't know why is this difference in battery, but maybe I will found it.
Anyway, learning every day something can't be a wrong direction...

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