Can the Kirin 970 Handle 4K EIS? - Huawei Mate 10 Questions & Answers

If so, how come Huawei has not updated the camera to actually work with it ?

I don't think the DSP can handle it, otherwise ateast the P20 would have it.

How can i say this... this question is not that smart. Of course it doesn't support 4K EIS.

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Video improvement

Do you think that the 4k record on mate 10 will be improved by software updates (like what op did with op5's camera)? Actually the stabilization is terrible and it also seems to have problem with focus...
I think OIS is bad in Mates, compared to other phone I have seen on YouTube.
tboy2000 said:
I think OIS is bad in Mates, compared to other phone I have seen on YouTube.
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That's why I'm still not sure if i get mate 10 or pixel 2,the video is bad on mate series compared to other phones.
Right now I'm also not sure if i get mate 10 ,the video is bad on mate series compared to other phones. If anyone have any information please share us.
I don't think the video is bad. I think the OIS is not that good but hopefully that can be fixed in a software update. Who knows.
tboy2000 said:
I don't think the video is bad. I think the OIS of not that good but hopefully that can be fixed in a software update. Who knows.
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You said "not that good".. do you mean not that good when recording 4k videos ? As far as I undertand Mate 10 has digital video stablization only @1080P/30fps and not in 4K.

Pixel camera port?

I googled everywhere, but can't seems to to find anything on it. Is it possible at all or not due to SoC?
I would highly doubt it, mainly because the pixel has 1 back camera and the mate has 3
Could still happen, other phones have more than one camera and have had it ported over, OnePlus 6, LG g6 etc etc but the only Thing that might be an issue it them. Phones have had snapdragon processors as opposed to Huawei Kirin.
Gitaroo said:
I googled everywhere, but can't seems to to find anything on it. Is it possible at all or not due to SoC?
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Porting Google Camera is much easier from Snapdragon SoC to Snapdragon SoC, yet there are still issues on OnePlus phones cause of the different sensors. I'm afraid it would take someone in the knowledge and motivated to properly port GCam for Kirin, and then you have the problem of the multiple lenses, something GCam doesn't support natively. First and foremost Huawei should just significantly cut back denoising and some of the sharpening, or just offer the option. Otherwise stock camera app is well rounded (minus GCam's awesome photosphere).
Night Signt is what I am more interested in from the new Google cam.
BoneXDA said:
Porting Google Camera is much easier from Snapdragon SoC to Snapdragon SoC, yet there are still issues on OnePlus phones cause of the different sensors. I'm afraid it would take someone in the knowledge and motivated to properly port GCam for Kirin, and then you have the problem of the multiple lenses, something GCam doesn't support natively. First and foremost Huawei should just significantly cut back denoising and some of the sharpening, or just offer the option. Otherwise stock camera app is well rounded (minus GCam's awesome photosphere).
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You are absolutely right. Some tweaks from Huawei and the stock camera App is brilliant. There is no need fpr GCam on Huawei especially since Huawei started with those dedicated night modes.
The problem does not seem to be the SOC as Mate 10 pro has a perfectly usable GCam port but the P20 pro doesn't. The problem is with the IMX 600 on the P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro as it enables pixel binding technology to capture HDR photos within the sensor itself rather than stacking different shots together. The pixel binding technology relays on the sensor to capture four pictures at once while other HDR technology only captures one photo at each shot. Oneplus uses the same technology on its secondary sensors so If there if any ports are working with the Oneplus's secondary sensor, then it might as well working on the Huawei devices. But If that's not the case, then it's not likely for us to get hands on any workable GCam shortly.
What a shame. imo the Mate 20 pro cam modules are really capable, but the software tends to screw up my images. I mean as mentioned, the sharpening, and the noise reduction is way over the top, and makes the images oilpaintings rather than actual pictures.
Even Google's Photo Scan App is not compatible with Mate 20 Pro
sajokj said:
Even Google's Photo Scan App is not compatible with Mate 20 Pro
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but you know, you can download this apk and its working perfectly
Also waiting for this :angel:
I tried many ports but nothing worked. Agree with Don.Chen's insight, I also found M20P compatible with some P20P's ports, but not the M10 ports. Miss GC's Portrait mode. Basically hardly any support for Kirin processors. Saw people mentioned Huawei's Camera API 2 is blocked, thus GC will not work for HDR+.
I hope some devs will turn and give it a try to mods gcam to work with our device
This version works well with mate 20 pro
sam1374 said:
This version works well with mate 20 pro
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You are right, it works ? however it crashes when opening the settings, but it's still something.
Here's the link if anyone wants to try:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177624777-android-apk-download/
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You are right, it works ? however it crashes when opening the settings, but it's still something.
Here's the link if anyone wants to try:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177624777-android-apk-download/
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Is this from pixel 3?
At least it works . And it's real 40 MP photos with zoom.
I tried one of the gcam version but it didnt work correct, so I deleted it. But i have a feeling that after that my camera doesent work so good anymore, it doesent take so good pictures anymore. Do you think that something like that is possible, or it is just my feeling? I dont have any good pictures to compare between, so it is hard to prove.
No change in terms of quality here. I guess you could do a soft reset? Has anyone found a port for wide angle support? Thanks
sam1374 said:
This version works well with mate 20 pro
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Are you using a mate 20 pro? The reason I ask is because I see VOLTE.

Support 60 fps for third part programm for filming.

Hello. Will there be 60 fps support for filming for these devices ( poco f1, mix2s, mi8, mi9, all that have a snapdragon 845-855 processor )in your program (FiLMiC Pro, gcam and similar )?
Why do you need in other applications? The fact is that these programs are richest in their functionality compared to stock applications.
Or will it never happen?
Robot_01 said:
Hello. Will there be 60 fps support for filming for these devices ( poco f1, mix2s, mi8, mi9, all that have a snapdragon 845-855 processor )in your program (FiLMiC Pro, gcam and similar )?
Why do you need in other applications? The fact is that these programs are richest in their functionality compared to stock applications.
Or will it never happen?
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The support for 60 fps recording is already official on devices like poco F1. Now it's upto the Dev of a particular app if he wants to implement the same. Gcam for example made available for non pixel devices by community devs rather than the OEM (Google) itself. If the Dev thinks it'll be useful and doesn't require too much effort and won't break any basic functions, he can choose to implement on his mods of the gcam app. Same goes for others.
What you can do now is ask the Dev himself if he can implement such and such features.
MasterFURQAN said:
The support for 60 fps recording is already official on devices like poco F1. Now it's upto the Dev of a particular app if he wants to implement the same. Gcam for example made available for non pixel devices by community devs rather than the OEM (Google) itself. If the Dev thinks it'll be useful and doesn't require too much effort and won't break any basic functions, he can choose to implement on his mods of the gcam app. Same goes for others.
What you can do now is ask the Dev himself if he can implement such and such features.
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I contacted FiLMiC Pro technical support - they said that they would do this quickly and only when the OEM manufacturer provided the source code to unlock some features, such as 60 FPS video in third-party programs.
Robot_01 said:
I contacted FiLMiC Pro technical support - they said that they would do this quickly and only when the OEM manufacturer provided the source code to unlock some features, such as 60 FPS video in third-party programs.
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I read somewhere that the libs for 60 fps were made open source sometime ago. I don't remember exactly where. You should begin by searching the most active threads like the bootloader unlock one.
Robot_01 said:
Hello. Will there be 60 fps support for filming for these devices ( poco f1, mix2s, mi8, mi9, all that have a snapdragon 845-855 processor )in your program (FiLMiC Pro, gcam and similar )?
Why do you need in other applications? The fact is that these programs are richest in their functionality compared to stock applications.
Or will it never happen?
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Yes, ofcourse because as compared to stock camera application Google camera is the best because their image processing software is best, that's why they can produce images like DSLR ,if you think that mi is not good at stock camera because they focus on hardware rather than software...So,camera of mi+gcam=DSLR .. Thank you

4k videos possible with Open Camera

Hi, officially 4k is not supported on the P30 Lite.
I've just seen that Samsung Galaxy A50 also does not support 4k videos officially, however with an app called Open Camera (you can find it in the play store, it's free) it's possible to record in 4k.
Can a Huawei P30 Lite owner please install Open Camera and check if it supports 4k resolution and if it does, make a quick test and upload to youtube?
Thank you.
Umm... This is the P20 Lite forum my friend and you are talking about the P30 Lite which does not have a forum yet.
So i think you won't find many aswers here until the P30 Lite forum is opened.
Benjaes123 said:
Umm... This is the P20 Lite forum my friend and you are talking about the P30 Lite which does not have a forum yet.
So i think you won't find many aswers here until the P30 Lite forum is opened.
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ah sorry I did some search and found this and I was almost sure it was the P30, sorry. Do you know where I can find an owner of such a phone and ask such a little test (install the app and try 4k video) to be done?
Srry man but i don't know anyone with the P30 lite. You can try asking in the P30 forums, maybe someone has the lite version.
Just make sure to let them now that you are aware you are posting it in the P30 and not in the P30 lite forum.
I am interested in buying a P20 lite and would love to know if the device supports 4K video capture with a 3rd party camera app.
Btw, P20 lite and P30 lite use the same SoC (Kirin 710).
Sarmingstein said:
I am interested in buying a P20 lite and would love to know if the device supports 4K video capture with a 3rd party camera app.
Btw, P20 lite and P30 lite use the same SoC (Kirin 710).
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@Benjaes123 : Could you be so kind and install Open Camera on your P20 lite, and try if it works with 4K video? Many thanks in advance!
Not working.
Don't day dream, the camera sensor not capable to capture 4k video.

Question Recording 4K 60fps in 16:9?

According to TechNick's review video, Xperia 1 III has no option to record 60fps in full 4K resolution of 3840×2160 (16:9), but only cropped 3840×1644 (21:9), even in Cinema Pro. Is this true? If so, would there be any workaround to record 3840×2160 @ 60fps? I pray someone makes a mod to unlock this functionality.
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mcpro24fps this one might help, i saw ssomeone mentioned about it on youtu.be
I am waiting om my shipment, so can not verify that is a solution. Sorry
There's a free and open-source solution if the camera hardware supports 4k60 - OpenCamera. Works great with recent Sony phones because there isn't too much proprietary stuff in camera hardware.
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that is a solution
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mcpro24fps indeed is a solution.
kot5nik said:
- OpenCamera. Works great with recent Sony phones
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the problem is, on my device it didn't have access to other sensors than main 24mm and the front-facing one.
I use filmic pro and mcpro24fps

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