So usually the first thing I do with all of my phones, is install a custom ROM ( and root obviously ). The newer the phones get the less reasons I find to void warranty and root it. Can someone give me a few good reasons to root my S9 plus, or tell me the reasons as to why you did it.
Thanks, Andrew.
Necessity to root, install ROMs has become less compared to earlier days with latest smartphones. But I flashed a custom ROM ( Resurrection Remix using TWRP) on the G-965F recently to stay away from samsung services and to get out of midrocre batterytime of the stock Firmware. Performance is out of the world and batterytime is solidly extended with it. Camera portrait mode doesn't work with Google hdr+ camera yet and that's a trade off should work in future.
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Necessity to root, install ROMs has become less compared to earlier days with latest smartphones. But I flashed a custom ROM ( Resurrection Remix using TWRP) on the G-965F recently to stay away from samsung services and to get out of midrocre batterytime of the stock Firmware. Performance is out of the world and batterytime is solidly extended with it. Camera portrait mode doesn't work with Google hdr+ camera yet and that's a trade off should work in future.
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That's the reasons I like also, I've always had loads better battery.
I bummed up, and let my phone reboot after OEM unlock, and now its disappeared for 7 more days again
I rooted all my phones for years, haven't felt the need on the S9+. Package Disabler Pro did everything I needed, and battery life is great (I did a 13 hours shift yesterday with lots of Facebook, photos, video recording, all on intermittent signal on both mobile and wifi, and battery went from 98% at 7am to 58% by 7.30pm.
I really don't know how you'd get much better life, other than a Mate 10 Pro, but they have their own issues...
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I rooted all my phones for years, haven't felt the need on the S9+. Package Disabler Pro did everything I needed, and battery life is great (I did a 13 hours shift yesterday with lots of Facebook, photos, video recording, all on intermittent signal on both mobile and wifi, and battery went from 98% at 7am to 58% by 7.30pm.
I really don't know how you'd get much better life, other than a Mate 10 Pro, but they have their own issues...
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I have noticed that battery life seems to be a hit and miss for people, some get really good, some get really bad.
Mine is mediocre, I feel like it could be better but it's not the worst in the world.
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That's the reasons I like also, I've always had loads better battery.
I bummed up, and let my phone reboot after OEM unlock, and now its disappeared for 7 more days again
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Be careful next time mate.
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Be careful next time mate.
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Yeah I tried to the first time, ah well these things happen haha.
rooting is a little more than just battery life, things like titanium backup still needs root, and if one decides to remove 'bloatware' (i.e. apps that one don't use) be it that they are sometimes nuisance with all the auto updates unwanted notifications, root is still needed
I rooted my galaxy s9 plus for various reasons. First to greatly enhance the audio by viper4android, and with dolby atmos also on at the same time it completely redefines the sound coming from it. Another reason for me was to use L speed, i have to say it actually makes a difference in performance and battery but not that much. And the third reason is to use substratum, i just love it.
So after all of this you think I am trying to convince you to root, but I don't actually recommend rooting this device specifically. Why? I really don't see the need of rooting it. It has everything that I wanted, but because of my childish brain I couldn't control myself so I went ahead and root it. After all, don't root it.
Debloating stuff which improves battery and performance, and a lot of other tweaks. As for me I use it with my ps4 controller using an app requiring me to root. Now I have my own retro console
This is my first phone I have used that includes NFC payment. So I have started to really enjoy the Samsung Pay feature. Are there anyways of still using this after rooting the phone?
Also can someone give a list of things to disable with 'Service Disabler'? I think Package Disabler Pro has been removed from the play store so I can't get it anymore
After having had a lot of Phones where I felt the need to root them, I can agree on what some others said before me, and that is that the S9+ is the first Phone I haven't felt the need for rooting it. It has basically everything I want that root could give me before, the only thing I am yet wanting is Viper4Android and TitaniumBackup, but there is Samsung Cloud for backup (it even works for gamesaves), and then the built in Equalizer is really good compared to any other from other OEM's. There are however downsides from rooting it, like not being able to use Samsung Pay for example, or Google Pay, or (if you're a fan of it, I dislike the game but whatever) Pokémon GO. Basically any app that uses SafetyNet will stop working (Magisk isn't 100% safe either and can fail). As Samsung gives me the option to theme my Phone to dark like I used to do with Root, and overclock it for Games using the GameTuner, and other things I did with root, I see no reason to really root my S9+ for now, maybe when it reaches it's EOL but currently it is better not to root it.
for me s9 plus need to be rooted, it depends what you use the root for
rom, kernal, games, backup, full control of your system
my head into stuff like this
for normal user i doubt it they even know what root can do
i rooted all my phones before the s9 plus this one waiting for it to be rooted
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Necessity to root, install ROMs has become less compared to earlier days with latest smartphones. But I flashed a custom ROM ( Resurrection Remix using TWRP) on the G-965F recently to stay away from samsung services and to get out of midrocre batterytime of the stock Firmware. Performance is out of the world and batterytime is solidly extended with it. Camera portrait mode doesn't work with Google hdr+ camera yet and that's a trade off should work in future.
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is it possible to install ressurection remix without root. or. to be clear. have banking apps, netflix and everything working? with the mi mix 2. this never was an issue when i installed a custom rom (xiaomi.eu rom)
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is it possible to install ressurection remix without root. or. to be clear. have banking apps, netflix and everything working? with the mi mix 2. this never was an issue when i installed a custom rom (xiaomi.eu rom)
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Ironically, you need to have magisk to get those apps to work. If you have magisk, you can change your device fingerprint using a modue called magisk hide props.
Will This Interfere With My Cell Phone Plan
The only reason I am hesitant to root my Galaxy S9 , is that I'm not sure of all of the negative impacts of rooting. here is my question. If I root my phone will i get to keep my cell phone plan? and will i be able to trade in my phone in the future?
I've had a lot of phones, all of them was rooted, even my S7, but the S9+ is my first that I haven't felt the need to root or anything else.
It's just a great phone.
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The only reason I am hesitant to root my Galaxy S9 , is that I'm not sure of all of the negative impacts of rooting. here is my question. If I root my phone will i get to keep my cell phone plan? and will i be able to trade in my phone in the future?
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You will keep your cell phone plan as that's based on the Sim card. And trade in depends on region I think. But factory reset with original recovery and everything should mean you can trade in unless your telecom company doesn't like it
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I have kept my Note 8 on samfail since its first days. Eventually I have given up hope on any further development or custom firmware options. Now out of frustration I am ready to pull the plug and just go to stock and get OTA updates and be done with it. I used to use root for so many things, mostly blocking ads, using certain apps that needed root, and just to have options and more control over the device that I own. I have stopped looking for anything or trying to stay on top of this device for at least a year, so I dont know what else there is to do with it. Ad blocking these days seems to block everything useful and I would have to whitelist so many things for it and no simple solution like the way it used to be. Now they make rooting impossible and want to charge over a grand for a new smartphone! ugh,end of rant.
Basically my Note 8 is no longer the swiss army knife that previous rooted smartphones have been for me, and I am not using anything currently that need root that i can think of. I dont know if i will ever need root. I have waited this out thinking in the future that I may need to be rooted but I just dont know anymore. Is there any point of keeping this Note 8 rooted anymore? No TWRP, no xposed,no cfw,seems like a waste to me.
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I have kept my Note 8 on samfail since its first days. Eventually I have given up hope on any further development or custom firmware options. Now out of frustration I am ready to pull the plug and just go to stock and get OTA updates and be done with it. I used to use root for so many things, mostly blocking ads, using certain apps that needed root, and.........
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I´m on bootloader v5 so I couldn`t root it but not missing it at all. In this scenario with no development for snapdragon variant no much to play with. You´ll finally lost updates and security patches and the worst of all probably the best android version with pie.
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I´m on bootloader v5 so I couldn`t root it but not missing it at all. In this scenario with no development for snapdragon variant no much to play with. You´ll finally lost updates and security patches and the worst of all probably the best android version with pie.
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I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I am on the same boat. I was waiting for future development, but the lack of it, the 80% battery and so many other things just frustrated the hell out of me. I basically want 3minit battery and Titanium backup in my devices so that when it comes time to twitch devices, I don't have to spend a day or two setting it up app by app. Other than that you are right. Not too many other apps are needed. I switched to a Pixel 3Xl to get unlocked bootloader and root. Now I'm happy with it. Stock Android seems a bit raw and unfinished at first but it does grow on you with time.
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I absolutely feel the pain of the OP. I have a S8+ on SamFail bootloader v1. I recently had the option to buy a Note 8 (bootloader v5) and couldn't decide if I wanted to switch from the semi-root of samfail'd S8+ to a stock Note 8...? Like the OP my main use is AdAway and one or two other apps that require root... I'm not sure what options are available for ad-blocking on non-rooted devices and how well they work? but that's a big one for me.
Sadly for USA variant (bootloader locked) devices the rooting/rom'ing party is over. And unless you want to stay a generation behind buying a international Exynos F model is expensive... (last years models are still expensive but usually about half of whatever the current series is)
I just gave up with root on my Note 8 about 2 weeks ago. Ad blocking is missed dearly. Just like others mentioned here, the gains for ditching root on snapdragon notes seem to be worth it. My root experience on this device just ain't the same as other devices I've rooted. My next note will be an exynos device for sure. If you don't mind setting up each app all over again I think going back to stock is good...as much as I hate to say it and be "regular". The extra 20% battery is noticeable in my daily usage too.
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I just gave up with root on my Note 8 about 2 weeks ago. Ad blocking is missed dearly. Just like others mentioned here, the gains for ditching root on snapdragon notes seem to be worth it. My root experience on this device just ain't the same as other devices I've rooted. My next note will be an exynos device for sure. If you don't mind setting up each app all over again I think going back to stock is good...as much as I hate to say it and be "regular". The extra 20% battery is noticeable in my daily usage too.
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If you're concerned about ads why haven't you tried adhell?
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If you're concerned about ads why haven't you tried adhell?
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Thanks. Didn't know about AdHell. I quickly learned of SABS too. I'll be looking into both very soon.
I have the note 8 but it's strictly for work, I have the 6t for play and honestly it's still stock, except I flashed it with the international rom from TMobiles. I just use adguard which blocks everything you want and it's a yearly subscription that doesn't cost much check it out.
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I have the note 8 but it's strictly for work, I have the 6t for play and honestly it's still stock, except I flashed it with the international rom from TMobiles. I just use adguard which blocks everything you want and it's a yearly subscription that doesn't cost much check it out.
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What does ad blocking apps do? I've had some but when I watch bootleg movies online(lol) I still see ads?
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BTW im a huge Samsung phone fan since epic tough 4g but I have up after note 8....it's just to mind boggling to root Sammy phones if your on T-Mobile like me who don't want to pay for the phone upfront ends up getting the locked boots....anyway I'm on OnePlus 6t converted to international...unlocked my boots flashed twrp flashed magisk flashed a custom kernel and that's it headache free viper4android for louder sound and subs to make the phone look the way I want it to.....
I have to admit I still play around with my note 8 especially after the pie update looks good
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I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I've been thinking for about 2 years now, since the G925V, it is the way in which we root the device that is the problem. Technically speaking, our actual method of perma-rooting a device is about the same as it was 10 years ago. And since CF stopped working on Samsung Devices, it seems no one else will really. I really think that's the problem, no one ever filled the void left by CF quitting Samsung public dev work.
Is Chainfire's way the only way? Or the only way that's really been developed?
So I been a long time Android user and all my devices had always been rooted. Recently I been having this dilemma that with how hard is getting to root devices like huawei or some other devices and with the issue of warranty, also the fact that almost every custom ROM has Bugs and issues some minors some a bit more concerning like cameras not working reboots etc. I tried many different ROMs before with my other devices and honestly they all had issues sometimes even worse then the original ROM constants flashing for the fixes and factory resets etc. Even with custom kernels and stock ROMs with stock kernels rooting wasn't making real sense. To be able to modify my kernel settings for what 20 minutes more of sot with lag or reboots, oc for what reason to have my phone over heat? To erase bloatware? I can disable them and through adb with our rooting. Before it made sense because Android was a young os and many things need root to be applied but now Im not sure . Do the benefits supersede the cost and time?
So my question is: does it really makes sense to root Android at this point ?
I agree, every android phone I had was rooted the day it came out of the box. Since I have a Huawei device, for me there is no more reason for rooting. Also the trouble isn't worth the risk anymore. No big benefits.
The main reason for me is adaway and lucky patcher but the time I'm spending to read posts on xda is really big because I'm scared to brake anything I would only recommend it if it's fun to you to play around with this kind of stuff and you are willing to spend time and risk your phone probably
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The main reason for me is adaway and lucky patcher but the time I'm spending to read posts on xda is really big because I'm scared to brake anything I would only recommend it if it's fun to you to play around with this kind of stuff and you are willing to spend time and risk your phone probably
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I agree with you, I would spend so much time before reading and making sure that I wasn't going to hardbrick my device that it is very hard to keep doing it, I already hardbrick another huawei phone and it basically was left useless, after everything went fine with rooting and custom kernel it turn on boot normally then all of a sudden it didn't turn back on , only on fastboot mode, never found a way to recover it. Like you said if you have a spare device it's cool I even use to cook my own ROMs and cherry pick things I liked from source code but that was with devices like the htc m8 which was alot more developer friendly.
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The main reason for me is adaway and lucky patcher but the time I'm spending to read posts on xda is really big because I'm scared to brake anything I would only recommend it if it's fun to you to play around with this kind of stuff and you are willing to spend time and risk your phone probably
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For adds I use virtual hosts app. No root needed, just the app and a hosts file on your sd card.
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there is literally no other logic to root your device in modern times other than to get viper 4 android or james dsp.
in olden days i used to root ....to get full screen usage on device by hiding navigation bar ...like immersive mode etc....but now they have gesture navigation .....
. stock headphones audio controls/quality on each and every phone is "****" as compared to V4A .... and this thing this issue of inferiority will always remain...
custom roms are buggy....i have nevver ever come across a single custom rom in the past 7 years .... which didn't have bugs..... no matter how stable they claim it is/was .
coming towards huawei....at least they updated these kirin970 devices much much earlier than samsung phone flagship ones.... which released after..... these mates and honors ....
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there is literally no other logic to root your device in modern times other than to get viper 4 android or james dsp.
in olden days i used to root ....to get full screen usage on device by hiding navigation bar ...like immersive mode etc....but now they have gesture navigation .....
. stock headphones audio controls/quality on each and every phone is "****" as compared to V4A .... and this thing this issue of inferiority will always remain...
custom roms are buggy....i have nevver ever come across a single custom rom in the past 7 years .... which didn't have bugs..... no matter how stable they claim it is/was .
coming towards huawei....at least they updated these kirin970 devices much much earlier than samsung phone flagship ones.... which released after..... these mates and honors ....
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I totally agree, I have never ever come across a custom ROMs that isn't buggy they all have bugs and there's always something that you have to lose in terms of stock functionality in order to make them work. I'm really digging huawei devices even tho they have taken that Stand on the bootloader .
Almost all new browsers have ad block included so ads don't bother me in my use of the device. I had OP6 b4 and it was rooted and I personally can't see any difference in day2day use between rooted and non rooted device.
just wish there was an easy way to put the phone in airplane mode without root
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Almost all new browsers have ad block included so ads don't bother me in my use of the device. I had OP6 b4 and it was rooted and I personally can't see any difference in day2day use between rooted and non rooted device.
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I personally use brave browser which is a great super fast browser and it has tons of ad blocking option as well as sync between pc and the phone and it's not resource hungry like chrome. It's a great browser i really haven't found any good reason for rooting this mate 10 pro. Besides reading so many people bricking the **** out of this phone is just not worth my time.
Another thing: Ability to clock down CPU to save battery.
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Another thing: Ability to clock down CPU to save battery.
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Yeah that's a must on a 9-10h SoT phone
Hey there, how are u doing?
I just got my Poco X3 NFC (was using Mi A3), and I kinda feel like pure android is really better to use in general than MIUI (at least for me). Wondering if it's better to change it now, since I don't have much on phone (less than 1 week) or just keep MIUI because 12.5 is about to get there.
Was checking the forum and found a lot of ROMs, but I don't really get if's not "the same" as MIUI, since it's an Android ROM with modifications based on... something they wanted to change. Most popular ROMs seem to be ArrowOS, Ressurection-Remix, and others non official ROMs (LineageOS have Android 11 already). I have NO IDEA what I should be looking in general, no idea what is Selinux, permissive, don't flash with some softwares, etc. Not sure if it affects how I will use it commonly tbh.
I mean, I usually use my phone to access social media, use a lot of spotify/youtube, and I probably will need to root to have a good Linux machine running there for my studies (actually using UserLand), that's why I'm wondering about ROMs. Battery is really important since I run a virtual machine imo.
So, what do u think? Should I change MIUI with another custom ROM or just keep it because XIAOMI upgrades it frequently? Would you recommend some ROM in specific? As I said, just want good battery life and QoL using my apps and Bluetooth connection (phones and smartwatch 24/7).
Never used custom ROMs tbh, but would give a shot. Always loved community based stuff
On Xiaomi you can always flash stock and relock bootloader if you need to unlike Samsung (thanks Knox /s)
ArrowOS is my recommendation. Well made ROM. You can also flash F1xy kernel if you want more fluidity with still good battery life.
Only thing is you don't have the features of stock MIUI camera and flashing ANX Camera on ArrowOS didn't worked for me. If you want that, you can use crDroid which has it built-in.
Flash it. It offers better performance, good battery life + it's nice & clean. You can notice it simply by doing basic tasks. Less frames are dropped.
For OTA, do dirty flash of ROM, but I prefer clean flash as it makes sure that there are no bugs related to dirty flashing + I'm starting clean. I do clean flash every time I notice that Device side changelog is changed. I'm using ArrowOS which has updates almost every day. crDroid updates often too. Like once in 7 day, but it's not the fixed schedule. NitrogenOS updates every 15 days-1 month.
NitrogenOS was my ROM before, it was good, but ArrowOS is just better. ArrowOS & basically other ROMs are based on newest sources while NitrogenOS is the only ROM right now that is still based on 12.0.3 firmware. ArrowOS has Enforcing seLinux unlike Nitrogen etc. These small things is what makes ArrowOS better ROM than others. Only crDroid can "fight" with it imo.
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Hey there, how are u doing?
I just got my Poco X3 NFC (was using Mi A3), and I kinda feel like pure android is really better to use in general than MIUI (at least for me). Wondering if it's better to change it now, since I don't have much on phone (less than 1 week) or just keep MIUI because 12.5 is about to get there.
Was checking the forum and found a lot of ROMs, but I don't really get if's not "the same" as MIUI, since it's an Android ROM with modifications based on... something they wanted to change. Most popular ROMs seem to be ArrowOS, Ressurection-Remix, and others non official ROMs (LineageOS have Android 11 already). I have NO IDEA what I should be looking in general, no idea what is Selinux, permissive, don't flash with some softwares, etc. Not sure if it affects how I will use it commonly tbh.
I mean, I usually use my phone to access social media, use a lot of spotify/youtube, and I probably will need to root to have a good Linux machine running there for my studies (actually using UserLand), that's why I'm wondering about ROMs. Battery is really important since I run a virtual machine imo.
So, what do u think? Should I change MIUI with another custom ROM or just keep it because XIAOMI upgrades it frequently? Would you recommend some ROM in specific? As I said, just want good battery life and QoL using my apps and Bluetooth connection (phones and smartwatch 24/7).
Never used custom ROMs tbh, but would give a shot. Always loved community based stuff
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I´ve had the phone for around 3 weeks now and it´s the first phone in years that I haven´t unlocked and installed custom Roms.
The reason is that my bank detects unlocked bootloader and I cannot use Google Pay which I use on a daily basis.
After debloating the phone and setting up the relevant apps so they don´t get shut down by the aggresive MIUI battery savings I am really satisfied. I also have a smartwatch connected 24/7 and I get around 8-9 hours SOT. Just normal usage, no gaming.
I also installed the MI Control Center from Play Store to customize the control center which is quite cool giving a bit of a customized look.
The only thing I am not to keen about is the fact that the Android security has not been updated since november 2020.
So far I am sticking with stock and looking forward to see what Miui 12.5 will be like.
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On Xiaomi you can always flash stock and relock bootloader if you need to unlike Samsung (thanks Knox /s)
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So, it's like "try it, if u don't like it, just get MIUI back", right? Cool!
SkaboXD said:
ArrowOS is my recommendation. Well made ROM. You can also flash F1xy kernel if you want more fluidity with still good battery life.
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OTA is the android updater? I'm kinda wants to update like I do with MIUI. Options > Updates > Update > Restart and Done
I don't use much cameras, just on my job tbh. As I said, just want a good battery to use my Linux on background (I already do it all day basically, I would say), and free ads (disabled all of them on MIUI, I think). Like, for example, installed Vanced YT on my Mi A3 in 5 minutes, while I reinstalled 3 times on POCO X3 and still can't log-on.
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I´ve had the phone for around 3 weeks now and it´s the first phone in years that I haven´t unlocked and installed custom Roms.
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Not sure if my bank do that... hope it doesn't. Yes, lot of apps are useless and uninstalled already.
I only "game" idle games, which means like 30 mins/day.
Still wondering if I should or not try a ROM. Probably will on weekend since I won't use it.
Oh, and BTW, my night mode is kinda buggy in a few apps, had to disable it on android and use in-app features. Not sure if it's MIUI problem, but never happened on my Mi A3.
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The reason is that my bank detects unlocked bootloader and I cannot use Google Pay which I use on a daily basis.
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I've been using magisk hide for banking apps, I still get some random issues with some apps like not being able to register the fingerprint but overall I can use them all, the only app that really gives me any trouble is the sprint drive app.
My phone is arriving today. Do I really need to wait for unlocking the bootloader?
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The reason is that my bank detects unlocked bootloader and I cannot use Google Pay which I use on a daily basis.
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With ArrowOS you can use bank apps and google play...
These are enforcing builds. Safety net checks pass out of the box! No need to flash magisk modules, which might in turn break the integrity!
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With ArrowOS you can use bank apps and google play...
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Like I wrote my bank in Denmark detects unlocked bootloaders. So there is no way I can use my bank apps as long as the bootloader is unlocked .
I had problems using ArrowOS on my Redmi Note 8T and called the help service in my bank. When I told him my phone model the helpdesk guy asked me right away if I had unlocked my bootloader which I "admitted" I did. Turns out that the guy knew eveything about custom Roms, unlocked bootloaders and rooted phones. He told me that most banks in Denmark put safety first and do anything to lock out devices with unlocked bootloaders even if Safetny passes without problems.
So I haven´t even tried unlocking the bootloader on my X3 NFC as I use my bank apps and Google Pay everyday.
And I am actually quite satsfied with stock MIUI after debloating and twirking. Looking forward to see how 12.5 will improve the phone.
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Like I wrote my bank in Denmark detects unlocked bootloaders. So there is no way I can use my bank apps as long as the bootloader is unlocked .
I had problems using ArrowOS on my Redmi Note 8T and called the help service in my bank. When I told him my phone model the helpdesk guy asked me right away if I had unlocked my bootloader which I "admitted" I did. Turns out that the guy knew eveything about custom Roms, unlocked bootloaders and rooted phones. He told me that most banks in Denmark put safety first and do anything to lock out devices with unlocked bootloaders even if Safetny passes without problems.
So I haven´t even tried unlocking the bootloader on my X3 NFC as I use my bank apps and Google Pay everyday.
And I am actually quite satsfied with stock MIUI after debloating and twirking. Looking forward to see how 12.5 will improve the phone.
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Wow, what a story. Thanks for sharing.
mGrilo said:
Hey there, how are u doing?
I just got my Poco X3 NFC (was using Mi A3), and I kinda feel like pure android is really better to use in general than MIUI (at least for me). Wondering if it's better to change it now, since I don't have much on phone (less than 1 week) or just keep MIUI because 12.5 is about to get there.
Was checking the forum and found a lot of ROMs, but I don't really get if's not "the same" as MIUI, since it's an Android ROM with modifications based on... something they wanted to change. Most popular ROMs seem to be ArrowOS, Ressurection-Remix, and others non official ROMs (LineageOS have Android 11 already). I have NO IDEA what I should be looking in general, no idea what is Selinux, permissive, don't flash with some softwares, etc. Not sure if it affects how I will use it commonly tbh.
I mean, I usually use my phone to access social media, use a lot of spotify/youtube, and I probably will need to root to have a good Linux machine running there for my studies (actually using UserLand), that's why I'm wondering about ROMs. Battery is really important since I run a virtual machine imo.
So, what do u think? Should I change MIUI with another custom ROM or just keep it because XIAOMI upgrades it frequently? Would you recommend some ROM in specific? As I said, just want good battery life and QoL using my apps and Bluetooth connection (phones and smartwatch 24/7).
Never used custom ROMs tbh, but would give a shot. Always loved community based stuff
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The most sensible answer is if you must ask, you don't need it. You'll likely get over your head, screw up your phone, whine and cry for help, when no one can cuz you're not even sure what, how, when or where you went wrong and don't remember exactly what you did, you'll end up regretting the whole thing, wish you never came to this site in the first place cuz now you gotta $250 paperweight, with no way to get another one. Now your parents are super mad and pretending you don't exist, you've resorted to eating only peanut butter n jelly sandwiches for every meal.. All this cuz you wanted a custom rom... yup
Talysdaddy said:
The most sensible answer is if you must ask, you don't need it. You'll likely get over your head, screw up your phone, whine and cry for help, when no one can cuz you're not even sure what, how, when or where you went wrong and don't remember exactly what you did, you'll end up regretting the whole thing, wish you never came to this site in the first place cuz now you gotta $250 paperweight, with no way to get another one. Now your parents are super mad and pretending you don't exist, you've resorted to eating only peanut butter n jelly sandwiches for every meal.. All this cuz you wanted a custom rom... yup
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Eh, not really. Wasn't everyone like this in the beginning? He'll learn with time if he's new, How about not scaring him?
Woolworm11 said:
My phone is arriving today. Do I really need to wait for unlocking the bootloader?
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Yeah, Xiaomi implemented a 168 hour wait time for unlocking bootloader in all new devices.
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Like I wrote my bank in Denmark detects unlocked bootloaders. So there is no way I can use my bank apps as long as the bootloader is unlocked .
I had problems using ArrowOS on my Redmi Note 8T and called the help service in my bank. When I told him my phone model the helpdesk guy asked me right away if I had unlocked my bootloader which I "admitted" I did. Turns out that the guy knew eveything about custom Roms, unlocked bootloaders and rooted phones. He told me that most banks in Denmark put safety first and do anything to lock out devices with unlocked bootloaders even if Safetny passes without problems.
So I haven´t even tried unlocking the bootloader on my X3 NFC as I use my bank apps and Google Pay everyday.
And I am actually quite satsfied with stock MIUI after debloating and twirking. Looking forward to see how 12.5 will improve the phone.
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A couple of years ago or a bit more, I had a problem with a bank app here in Italy. It was possible to install it, it opened but was never able to login to my account with a "generic error". After calling the helpdesk, they did a check and informed me that the app didn't work for ROOTED PHONES...
One week after this call, my new account in another bank was active and fully operative so I moved all my money to the new bank.
If anyone would react in this way, this kind of abuses by banks will end very soon...
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Eh, not really. Wasn't everyone like this in the beginning? He'll learn with time if he's new, How about not scaring him?
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No, I wasn't like this in the beginning, like my first sentence says, if you have to ask, it probably isn't for you cuz it demonstrates a few lacking qualities that surely would make this difficult. No offense to OP but I'm being realistic, speaking of going back to the OPs question, he asks whether he should rock a custom rom or not. How can anyone realistically answer that for him? The only one that has that definite answer is the person asking it. No one here knows his skills, amount of knowledge, patience level, whether he can follow instructions or a tutorial well enough, whether he enjoys or tolerates reading, disposable cash, if he funks up a daily driver, can it be replaced, ect.... these are all key in learning and practicing installing roms. Going back to what I said originally if you must ask, meaning that you can't determine this for yourself, it's highly likely there's other things you can't do for yourself. Everyone here knows 99.9009% of this is done independently, reading these threads and trying things out. Plus 99.9999% of answers to questions pertaining to modding our devices are in these threads, yet so many fail to search instead go straight to the questions forum, create a new thread asking same question answered 5x already. So if someone comes here asking a question only they truly have answers to, are they likely to miracoulsly be independent suddenly or someone frequently needing assistance unable to perform tasks themselves? Once again back to my original post, "they've demonstrated this kind of work ethic already."
Yea I know my answer wasn't something some want to hear but I call it as I see it.
Hello everyone it's been years since I've messed around with rooting and what not. Since the HTC One days... Anyways I have a Google Pixel 6 and I'm thinking about rooting it. I just remember being able to do so many more customizations when rooted. Custom roms with better battery life, just cool stuff ya know lol. Any advice is truly appreciated.
80'sBaby said:
Hello everyone it's been years since I've messed around with rooting and what not. Since the HTC One days... Anyways I have a Google Pixel 6 and I'm thinking about rooting it. I just remember being able to do so many more customizations when rooted. Custom roms with better battery life, just cool stuff ya know lol. Any advice is truly appreciated.
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Might want to check out this already-started thread in the Pixel 6 Pro forum...
Rooting... Worth it? Or hassle?
Last device I ever rooted was the op6, I loved rooting the phones to have overall controll, But is it worth it these days? And If I wore to root I know there's a module you can install to keep gpay and things but what about otas and things, and...
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Personally unless you have a very particular use case there really isn't a reason in my opinion. I have to record all my calls with the ex so I had to root but that's all I use it for.
For me it's the little things that make it worth it. Battery charge limiting, passive adblocking, forcing google photos to only backup when charging. Yeah, seems small but it means a lot to me when I miss those.
I kept asking this same question the last two weeks. I ended up not rooting my Pixel 6. Here is a good yt video making the case to rooting.
worth it for me vanced youtube and system tweaks...
I would argue the case that a lot of stuff that used to require root, no longer requires you to be rooted (adblocking, vanced, "pm disable", app backups) & if you're not the kind of person who wants to update manually, install Magisk modules, Xposed modules, custom kernels/ROMs or even use ADB commands that require SU, then you may be better off staying unrooted.
Having said that though, Google does seem to be locking Android down a lot more recently, for example: fixing a exploit that allowed you to mod the UI without root (Repainter/FabricateOverlay) & although I am all for a more secure OS, I also can't live without some mods/apps that do require root (Viper4Android, Pixel Mods, Custom Kernels & SU ADB commands), so root is essential to me.
It's relatively easy to update your device every month when rooted nowdays too - you can take OTA's regularly, as long as you restore the factory boot image via MagiskManager (uninstall Magisk), and then install Magisk to the inactive slot so that you're still rooted upon reboot (or updating manually via fastboot is usually just as fast).
Is it worth it? At the end of the day it comes down to personal preference - it really depends on what you want to do with your phone & how much control you want to have over your device, versus how much time and effort you want to dump into learning and rooting; only you can decide if it's worth it, to you.
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I would argue the case that a lot of stuff that used to require root, no longer requires you to be rooted (adblocking, vanced, "pm disable", app backups) & if you're not the kind of person who wants to update manually, install Magisk modules, Xposed modules, custom kernels/ROMs or even use ADB commands that require SU, then you may be better off staying unrooted.
Having said that though, Google does seem to be locking Android down a lot more recently, for example: fixing a exploit that allowed you to mod the UI without root (Repainter/FabricateOverlay) & although I am all for a more secure OS, I also can't live without some mods/apps that do require root (Viper4Android, Pixel Mods, Custom Kernels & SU ADB commands), so root is essential to me.
It's relatively easy to update your device every month when rooted nowdays too - you can take OTA's regularly, as long as you restore the factory boot image via MagiskManager (uninstall Magisk), and then install Magisk to the inactive slot so that you're still rooted upon reboot (or updating manually via fastboot is usually just as fast).
Is it worth it? At the end of the day it comes down to personal preference - it really depends on what you want to do with your phone & how much control you want to have over your device, versus how much time and effort you want to dump into learning and rooting; only you can decide if it's worth it, to you.
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OK so I don't see the word security anywhere there. Are there not any security implications these days? (I'm no expert just a casual visitor here)
Flashing the Kirisakura kernel seemed to improve my standby battery drain a lot. I think it's worth it for that alone. Plus it may be getting less necessary to root but it's also getting easier so I think it balances out. Unlocking and rooting my 6 pro was easier than I remember previous phones being. Magisk is far superior to SuperSu in my fairly limited experience.
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OK so I don't see the word security anywhere there. Are there not any security implications these days? (I'm no expert just a casual visitor here)
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I wouldn't say there's much security risk - in terms of apps accessing SuperUser, you choose which apps can access SU commands & you can also set this to be biometric so that only your fingerprint can authorise SU use.
If someone has your device in person, it may be a little bit more of a security risk as they can easily wipe the device but shouldn't be able to actually unlock your device or access your data (encrypted), even after resetting it, due to Google implementing "Factory Reset Protection" way back in 2014 or 2015? I am unsure if this is the case if you reset the device via a "fastboot -w" wipe, but can only assume that it is.
Obviously, if you give a rogue app SU access it could definitely be a security risk, but if you're pretty "tech savvy" and don't go giving SU to any old apk, I would say you're pretty safe.
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For me it's the little things that make it worth it. Battery charge limiting, passive adblocking, forcing google photos to only backup when charging. Yeah, seems small but it means a lot to me when I miss those.
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what are you using to limit battery charging on your pixel 6? and what settings?
i use acca usually but im having issues on the the p6.
as for root, it gives me all the features i need.
Have my P6 since the beginning and haven't rooted yet. Most of the stuff I used root for can now be achieved without it (ADB/Shizuku f.e.). Still considering to root again for the little things and just because I always enjoy tinkering. Just wish Nova would support Quickswitch, then I'd root instantly.
I used to have a Rooted Note4,
unfortunately I left it on the truck dashboard one day, and the sun bricked it solid, won't even boot now
since then, the only real reason I want to root is to Record Callers, because I have severe Tinnitus, and don't always understand what I hear.
sometimes, when a doctor calls, this is extremely important...
I found an app that works if you know the call is coming, and can Unlock the Permissions for it.
but, once the screen locks, it is inop again.
However, if you make an Outgoing Call, it works every time... Curious.
Google has gone too far with blocking our ability to record calls....
I now have a Galaxy S10+ and would love to root it, but can't afford the risk of bricking it....
as I am not familiar with rooting at all ( I bought the Note4 already rooted )
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I did manage root and rom on an S8, I think the S10+ would be easier again. There's a bit of mucking around. Doubt you would brick it. Usually when instructions go wrong and you start mucking around the bricking becomes reality.
Energized... Sound mods... Alpha backup... Call recording... The magisk mod for system UI tweaks... Acc battery charger... It's a lot of great reasons to root in 2022
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Energized... Sound mods... Acc battery charger...
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@Admiral2145 -- I read to the penultimate reply and was like "Meh, not interested in rooting", then you replied
Can you point us less-informed to some of these topics?
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@Admiral2145 -- I read to the penultimate reply and was like "Meh, not interested in rooting", then you replied
Can you point us less-informed to some of these topics?
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Energized Protection (Hosts file / Adblocker)
Viper4Android FX (Audio Mod)
JamesDSP (Audio Mod)
Ainur Narsil (Depreciated Audio Mod)
Advanced Charging Controller (ACC)
drmikecrowe said:
@Admiral2145 -- I read to the penultimate reply and was like "Meh, not interested in rooting", then you replied
Can you point us less-informed to some of these topics?
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[MOD][MAGISK][ANDROID 12] Addon Features for Pixel Devices - Pixel 6 Thread
What is this? This is a Magisk module that adds the following cool custom features to any Pixel device (from 3a to 6 Pro) running stock Android 12 Pixel ROM: Enable/Disable Google Sans font system wide Adds Icon Styles and Icon Shapes...
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This is the game changer... You damn near don't need custom roms anymore... And can't forget about the kernels that helps out with battery usage and all kinds of tweaks
Velcorn said:
Have my P6 since the beginning and haven't rooted yet. Most of the stuff I used root for can now be achieved without it (ADB/Shizuku f.e.). Still considering to root again for the little things and just because I always enjoy tinkering. Just wish Nova would support Quickswitch, then I'd root instantly.
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Caved and rooted 2 days ago. Went from 12L beta back to stock because Quickswitch and Bluspark Kernel resulted in a bootloop on the beta
Now running Quickswitch, Bluspark and the add-on mod and I really love it. It's the small things for me. The only reason I was reluctant to root was having to wipe my device. Should've just rooted on day 1
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Caved and rooted 2 days ago. Went from 12L beta back to stock because Quickswitch and Bluspark Kernel resulted in a bootloop on the beta
Now running Quickswitch, Bluspark and the add-on mod and I really love it. It's the small things for me. The only reason I was reluctant to root was having to wipe my device. Should've just rooted on day 1
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Almost identical situation over here, but I just updated to the QPR.
I use the heck out of GPay but would love call recording ability. V4A would be a plus too.
It's still impossible to 100% "hide root" from apps right? I know there are mitigation techniques but I assume its still possible for apps to poke around
Right now I'm struggling really hard to find a new phone I want, and realistically none meet my standards due to low battery, or bad camera specs and software support. However I keep finding myself wanting the Xperia line of phones, and I strangely really want to get this phone but I hear and know of many cons already. Heating issues, and in a year or two it's going to lose software support right?
However would rooting it, or people who have rooted the phone solve the issues regarding the phone themselves? Like was the os optimized better for thermals, or is there a good line of custom roms that can securely update the phone that way instead? Was it worth it to go through the hassle, or is bricking a strong issue and unable to be dealt with.
Cuz honestly I just want a decent phone of 5000MAH, great camera, and good dual speakers tbh. It'd be cool if it'd come with a headphone jack too, and if micro sd was an option but honestly I only use about 80gb of storage anyway.
101% i love my with root
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101% i love my with root
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Mind telling me what you did that fixed the stock flaws? I got my heart set on one of the Xperia phones lol. Tje 1V looks amazing but I wanna wait for the 5V at the same time too lol
5v wont be relased until september or maybe later.. they tend to follow yearly schedule
and if u like the notification LED better hurry caus i red some information about its no longer at the X1 V
and if this happens 8 bet same will happen at the X5 V
I haven't needed to fix any flaws really, but still rooted to remove bloat, block ads, access app data, improve privacy etc.
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I haven't needed to fix any flaws really,crooted to remove bloat, block ads, access app data, improve privacy etc.
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ShatteredSpider exactly this! I've done all that and tbh so far (4 months), have not an issue to shout about. Perhaps its by removing the bloat, thoough very little compared to some phones, having a rooted ad-blocker makes my phone run flawlessly so far without no crazy heat issues. Of course there have been some official updates, mostly security but they may have tinkered around with the initial heating issue too. Battery life is great, magisk+modules run perfectly and banking apps work fine too. So far, my best and easiest rooted phone experience so far with some great cameras/software, plus I've got Gcam/revanced running too as a plus. New phone sensor does sound great, not sure I need to jump to it, especially as gcam night images work pretty well for me and even for general snappy images.
@davestuarts Was there anything root-related that you had to do to get GCam working properly? I had a hard time with it initially though it did take pictures and then it stopped working entirely, possibly due to a system update.
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@davestuarts Was there anything root-related that you had to do to get GCam working properly? I had a hard time with it initially though it did take pictures and then it stopped working entirely, possibly due to a system update.
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I don't think Gcam technically requires root, there's nothing I can remember that suggests it, as I remember testing Gcam when I first had the phone and was untouche/not rooted.
I've had Gcam 8.1 installed since (with a profile) and it's been running fine, mostly photos and occasionally videos.
I've updated the rom about three times, though manually as it's rooted, but Gcam continues to work. I've tested other versions of Gcam but they either didn't work or crashed. That's all I can say. Any further questions, I'll try and answer if I know.
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I don't think Gcam technically requires root, there's nothing I can remember that suggests it, as I remember testing Gcam when I first had the phone and was untouche/not rooted.
I've had Gcam 8.1 installed since (with a profile) and it's been running fine, mostly photos and occasionally videos.
I've updated the rom about three times, though manually as it's rooted, but Gcam continues to work. I've tested other versions of Gcam but they either didn't work or crashed. That's all I can say. Any further questions, I'll try and answer if I know.
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Oooo please send what kind of photos you take on the phone, i wanna see the quality!! To me it seems like the perfect mid tier phone, but I wanted to see the stock photos, pro photos and possible gcam but haven't reliably seen results only a few reviews. I also wanna try to work it into being a professional webcam when I'm home for motion tracking but afraid of bad quality?