Hello everyone it's been years since I've messed around with rooting and what not. Since the HTC One days... Anyways I have a Google Pixel 6 and I'm thinking about rooting it. I just remember being able to do so many more customizations when rooted. Custom roms with better battery life, just cool stuff ya know lol. Any advice is truly appreciated.
80'sBaby said:
Hello everyone it's been years since I've messed around with rooting and what not. Since the HTC One days... Anyways I have a Google Pixel 6 and I'm thinking about rooting it. I just remember being able to do so many more customizations when rooted. Custom roms with better battery life, just cool stuff ya know lol. Any advice is truly appreciated.
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Might want to check out this already-started thread in the Pixel 6 Pro forum...
Rooting... Worth it? Or hassle?
Last device I ever rooted was the op6, I loved rooting the phones to have overall controll, But is it worth it these days? And If I wore to root I know there's a module you can install to keep gpay and things but what about otas and things, and...
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Personally unless you have a very particular use case there really isn't a reason in my opinion. I have to record all my calls with the ex so I had to root but that's all I use it for.
For me it's the little things that make it worth it. Battery charge limiting, passive adblocking, forcing google photos to only backup when charging. Yeah, seems small but it means a lot to me when I miss those.
I kept asking this same question the last two weeks. I ended up not rooting my Pixel 6. Here is a good yt video making the case to rooting.
worth it for me vanced youtube and system tweaks...
I would argue the case that a lot of stuff that used to require root, no longer requires you to be rooted (adblocking, vanced, "pm disable", app backups) & if you're not the kind of person who wants to update manually, install Magisk modules, Xposed modules, custom kernels/ROMs or even use ADB commands that require SU, then you may be better off staying unrooted.
Having said that though, Google does seem to be locking Android down a lot more recently, for example: fixing a exploit that allowed you to mod the UI without root (Repainter/FabricateOverlay) & although I am all for a more secure OS, I also can't live without some mods/apps that do require root (Viper4Android, Pixel Mods, Custom Kernels & SU ADB commands), so root is essential to me.
It's relatively easy to update your device every month when rooted nowdays too - you can take OTA's regularly, as long as you restore the factory boot image via MagiskManager (uninstall Magisk), and then install Magisk to the inactive slot so that you're still rooted upon reboot (or updating manually via fastboot is usually just as fast).
Is it worth it? At the end of the day it comes down to personal preference - it really depends on what you want to do with your phone & how much control you want to have over your device, versus how much time and effort you want to dump into learning and rooting; only you can decide if it's worth it, to you.
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I would argue the case that a lot of stuff that used to require root, no longer requires you to be rooted (adblocking, vanced, "pm disable", app backups) & if you're not the kind of person who wants to update manually, install Magisk modules, Xposed modules, custom kernels/ROMs or even use ADB commands that require SU, then you may be better off staying unrooted.
Having said that though, Google does seem to be locking Android down a lot more recently, for example: fixing a exploit that allowed you to mod the UI without root (Repainter/FabricateOverlay) & although I am all for a more secure OS, I also can't live without some mods/apps that do require root (Viper4Android, Pixel Mods, Custom Kernels & SU ADB commands), so root is essential to me.
It's relatively easy to update your device every month when rooted nowdays too - you can take OTA's regularly, as long as you restore the factory boot image via MagiskManager (uninstall Magisk), and then install Magisk to the inactive slot so that you're still rooted upon reboot (or updating manually via fastboot is usually just as fast).
Is it worth it? At the end of the day it comes down to personal preference - it really depends on what you want to do with your phone & how much control you want to have over your device, versus how much time and effort you want to dump into learning and rooting; only you can decide if it's worth it, to you.
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OK so I don't see the word security anywhere there. Are there not any security implications these days? (I'm no expert just a casual visitor here)
Flashing the Kirisakura kernel seemed to improve my standby battery drain a lot. I think it's worth it for that alone. Plus it may be getting less necessary to root but it's also getting easier so I think it balances out. Unlocking and rooting my 6 pro was easier than I remember previous phones being. Magisk is far superior to SuperSu in my fairly limited experience.
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OK so I don't see the word security anywhere there. Are there not any security implications these days? (I'm no expert just a casual visitor here)
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I wouldn't say there's much security risk - in terms of apps accessing SuperUser, you choose which apps can access SU commands & you can also set this to be biometric so that only your fingerprint can authorise SU use.
If someone has your device in person, it may be a little bit more of a security risk as they can easily wipe the device but shouldn't be able to actually unlock your device or access your data (encrypted), even after resetting it, due to Google implementing "Factory Reset Protection" way back in 2014 or 2015? I am unsure if this is the case if you reset the device via a "fastboot -w" wipe, but can only assume that it is.
Obviously, if you give a rogue app SU access it could definitely be a security risk, but if you're pretty "tech savvy" and don't go giving SU to any old apk, I would say you're pretty safe.
Gibsonflyingv said:
For me it's the little things that make it worth it. Battery charge limiting, passive adblocking, forcing google photos to only backup when charging. Yeah, seems small but it means a lot to me when I miss those.
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what are you using to limit battery charging on your pixel 6? and what settings?
i use acca usually but im having issues on the the p6.
as for root, it gives me all the features i need.
Have my P6 since the beginning and haven't rooted yet. Most of the stuff I used root for can now be achieved without it (ADB/Shizuku f.e.). Still considering to root again for the little things and just because I always enjoy tinkering. Just wish Nova would support Quickswitch, then I'd root instantly.
I used to have a Rooted Note4,
unfortunately I left it on the truck dashboard one day, and the sun bricked it solid, won't even boot now
since then, the only real reason I want to root is to Record Callers, because I have severe Tinnitus, and don't always understand what I hear.
sometimes, when a doctor calls, this is extremely important...
I found an app that works if you know the call is coming, and can Unlock the Permissions for it.
but, once the screen locks, it is inop again.
However, if you make an Outgoing Call, it works every time... Curious.
Google has gone too far with blocking our ability to record calls....
I now have a Galaxy S10+ and would love to root it, but can't afford the risk of bricking it....
as I am not familiar with rooting at all ( I bought the Note4 already rooted )
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I did manage root and rom on an S8, I think the S10+ would be easier again. There's a bit of mucking around. Doubt you would brick it. Usually when instructions go wrong and you start mucking around the bricking becomes reality.
Energized... Sound mods... Alpha backup... Call recording... The magisk mod for system UI tweaks... Acc battery charger... It's a lot of great reasons to root in 2022
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Energized... Sound mods... Acc battery charger...
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@Admiral2145 -- I read to the penultimate reply and was like "Meh, not interested in rooting", then you replied
Can you point us less-informed to some of these topics?
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@Admiral2145 -- I read to the penultimate reply and was like "Meh, not interested in rooting", then you replied
Can you point us less-informed to some of these topics?
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Energized Protection (Hosts file / Adblocker)
Viper4Android FX (Audio Mod)
JamesDSP (Audio Mod)
Ainur Narsil (Depreciated Audio Mod)
Advanced Charging Controller (ACC)
drmikecrowe said:
@Admiral2145 -- I read to the penultimate reply and was like "Meh, not interested in rooting", then you replied
Can you point us less-informed to some of these topics?
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[MOD][MAGISK][ANDROID 12] Addon Features for Pixel Devices - Pixel 6 Thread
What is this? This is a Magisk module that adds the following cool custom features to any Pixel device (from 3a to 6 Pro) running stock Android 12 Pixel ROM: Enable/Disable Google Sans font system wide Adds Icon Styles and Icon Shapes...
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This is the game changer... You damn near don't need custom roms anymore... And can't forget about the kernels that helps out with battery usage and all kinds of tweaks
Velcorn said:
Have my P6 since the beginning and haven't rooted yet. Most of the stuff I used root for can now be achieved without it (ADB/Shizuku f.e.). Still considering to root again for the little things and just because I always enjoy tinkering. Just wish Nova would support Quickswitch, then I'd root instantly.
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Caved and rooted 2 days ago. Went from 12L beta back to stock because Quickswitch and Bluspark Kernel resulted in a bootloop on the beta
Now running Quickswitch, Bluspark and the add-on mod and I really love it. It's the small things for me. The only reason I was reluctant to root was having to wipe my device. Should've just rooted on day 1
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Caved and rooted 2 days ago. Went from 12L beta back to stock because Quickswitch and Bluspark Kernel resulted in a bootloop on the beta
Now running Quickswitch, Bluspark and the add-on mod and I really love it. It's the small things for me. The only reason I was reluctant to root was having to wipe my device. Should've just rooted on day 1
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Almost identical situation over here, but I just updated to the QPR.
I use the heck out of GPay but would love call recording ability. V4A would be a plus too.
It's still impossible to 100% "hide root" from apps right? I know there are mitigation techniques but I assume its still possible for apps to poke around
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Dear community,
I've rooted my TFP using the guide from xda. To be honest, I didn't mean to, I read the guide and got carried away with it . Finally the root is good now. As a windows guy and with slight understanding of linux I'm pretty new to android.
My question is, now that my tablet is rooted, how can I take advantage of it? What are the recommended apps? Any known tweaks?
Please enlighten me
Search 'root' on android market.
Titanium Backup is useful, Ghost Commander or EZ file, there are also apps to remote control your tablet, you can use new launchers - trebuchet launcher or nova launcher on rooted devices.
You can also delete system files, so be careful.
The biggest bonus to rooting is being able to flash different roms like many of us do with our android smartphones. Flashing roms is currently not an option on the Prime but should or could be available in the future. Right now I don't think there's a whole lot to do with a rooted Prime.
While I haven't rooted my Prime yet, I'm only in day 6 and waiting until the "send it back" period elapses I rooted my moto Atrix2 almost immediately. I installed Titanium Backup as well as System Tuner, and a couple other root only apps. The primary reason for rooting the Atrix2 was to freeze Carrier ID as I don't care for ATT snooping on me with without so much as a by your leave. In any case I'll probably root the Prime just to get more control over what the device is doing when it's in standby. For instance I am hoping to be able to use Tasker to shut off the wifi after 5 or 10 minutes in standby in order to save battery power and turn it back on,when I wake up the tablet. Maybe find a way to create different, more detailed power profiles for different activities. I've done a lot of this on the Atrix2 and seen some significant increases in battery life because of it.
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The biggest bonus to rooting is being able to flash different roms like many of us do with our android smartphones. Flashing roms is currently not an option on the Prime but should or could be available in the future. Right now I don't think there's a whole lot to do with a rooted Prime.
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Incorrect, Rooting has nothing to do with flashing ROMs. Unlocking the bootloader on the other hand, has everything to do with flashing ROMs.
Swiftks said:
Incorrect, Rooting has nothing to do with flashing ROMs. Unlocking the bootloader on the other hand, has everything to do with flashing ROMs.
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right. i don't think that any ROM can improve the already very good existing one from ASUS.
I haven't rooted my TFP, but I'm seriously considering doing so. The main reason is that most of (good) adbockers require root access. Loading all this rubbish adds, many of them being large flash animations, slows down browsing experience significantly. I want to get rid of them and the only way I know is by rooting Android.
For me about the biggest thing is "AdAway" or any other app for updating host file.
Never see one single ad on your device again. Less anoyance, faster loading times in browser, less data consumption ...
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right. i don't think that any ROM can improve the already very good existing one from ASUS.
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You've never used CM7 then... soon to be CM9.
Sent from my CM7 Atrix 4G
I've been a long time advocate of unlocking and rooting my devices, dating back to Windows Mobile. I loved the ability of dump bloated carrier apps, use Titanium BackUp to save and restore apps, and enable root-specific apps and features. Then, about the time I switched to a LG G5, the ability to unlock became a rarity. Around that time, I found that the LG BackUp allowed me to preform an easy restore after a system reset, carrier apps were easier to ignore and I found that rooting wasn't as much of a necessity as I remembered. Fast forward to the news that a method was discovered that allowed almost all V30s to be unlocked and rooted. My question is this: Is it really worth it to unlock and root my phone, or flash a custom ROM when this exploit will undoubtedly be patched soon? This leaves the owner to remain on the outdated firmware, which has possible security risks. Also, rooting the phone will most likely disable Android Pay, which I use regularly. Finally, one of the big selling points of this phone was the two-year warranty, which could be voided if unlocked.
I think it's great that people can finally unlock this phone, but I'd like to know what are the main reasons people are using this method and why they feel that it outweighs the risks. I've been out of the rooting/flashing loop for a while, so I'm looking forward to hearing the responses.
Thanks!
If you think you'll remain on outdated firmware you don't know much about rooting.
ROMs get monthly Android security updates. Does LG do that?
If you want to stay on stock firmware, you can flash any updated KDZ. I've been rooted since January and I flashed Oreo KDZ. I'm currently as updated as LG allows for US998'
You can have all the updates you want. Not sure why you don't think so.
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No rooting doesn't disable Android Pay. That's the whole idea of Magisk.
This topic almost smells of Troll.
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If you think you'll remain on outdated firmware you don't know much about rooting.
ROMs get monthly Android security updates. Does LG do that?
If you want to stay on stock firmware, you had flash any updated KDZ. I've been rooted since January and I flashed Oreo KDZ.
You can have all the updates you want. Not sure why you don't think so.
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No rooting doesn't disable Android Pay. That's the whole idea of Magisk.
This topic almost smells of Troll.
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Sorry... as I said, it's been a while since I rooted a phone, so I was off the mark on the update part. As for Android Pay, the last time I tried to use is on a rooted phone I got a failure notice. I have no idea what Magisk is, so that's exactly why I'm asking my original question. I'm looking for honest answers... not insults.
One other thing that I noticed was that the recommended method was the convert to the US998 Oreo in North America. The G5 I has was the carrier unlocked version which I used on Verizon. While it worked great, a couple features weren't compatible. For example, Advanced Calling only enabled HD Voice. Video Calling was unavailable. Also, Verizon visual voicemail didn't work, so most people switched to Google Voice. That caused issues with call forwarding to my LG Urbane 2. All of this things may have been resolved since then, and if they are please let me know.
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If you think you'll remain on outdated firmware you don't know much about rooting.
ROMs get monthly Android security updates. Does LG do that?
If you want to stay on stock firmware, you can flash any updated KDZ. I've been rooted since January and I flashed Oreo KDZ. I'm currently as updated as LG allows for US998'
You can have all the updates you want. Not sure why you don't think so.
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No rooting doesn't disable Android Pay. That's the whole idea of Magisk.
This topic almost smells of Troll.
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@ChazzMatt, I would not think he's trolling, as I had the very same question. I had rooted all my phones, up to the S8 Plus. Then I got a deal I could not pass on the V30 ($300 in pristine, practically new condition) and it did not take me more than a couple of days to see I liked it way more than the S8 and one of the reasons for that was that I did not feel like I needed to change anything to it. Great performance and sound, almost no bloatware and excellent battery life. So, knowing that the loophole might get patched I did unlock the bootloader but have remained stock, lurking in the rom threads until something compelling arises that make me root and leave stock behind. By the way I must thank you because you have helped so many of us in these guides.
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@ChazzMatt, I would not think he's trolling, as I had the very same question. I had rooted all my phones, up to the S8 Plus. Then I got a deal I could not pass on the V30 ($300 in pristine, practically new condition) and it did not take me more than a couple of days to see I liked it way more than the S8 and one of the reasons for that was that I did not feel like I needed to change anything to it. Great performance and sound, almost no bloatware and excellent battery life. So, knowing that the loophole might get patched I did unlock the bootloader but have remained stock, lurking in the rom threads until something compelling arises that make me root and leave stock behind. By the way I must thank you because you have helped so many of us in these guides.
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I'll give a more complete answer later tonight when I get home.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Just the ability to cut off most ads with AdAway is compelling enough for me to root, even if it voids the warranty.
Cannot stand all the crass obnoxious ads.
The smartphone hardware is amazingly reliable nowadays, once it survives the infant mortality phase (initial failures). I figure the 30 day return period is there for infant mortality, if the phone makes it past that it is extremely likely to survive 2 years. Especially a phone like the V30 with IP68 and some MIL-STD-810 ruggedness. So in my opinion the warranty risk assumed by rooting is very slight.
(Just spilled milk on my V30S yesterday. Rinsed it off, let it dry, good to go. )
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In case of forgotten WiFi password, Wifi generator will need root and help you see your saved SSID & passwords. If you have a custom kernel, play with CPU governors either for balanced performance/battery life (Does different CPU governors responsible for the UI smoothness but reduce battery life by a few minutes?) I'll take software smoothness over battery life anyday since I carry a powerbank. BBS app needs root to check the wakelocks so that we know what's draining the battery. LG for life. Innovates awesomeness and doesn't copy others is like MERCEDES-BENZ. The Best Or Nothing.
1) Philosophy of ownership.
You paid several hundred dollars for this small handheld computer. And if you are not the "administrator", then you don't really own it. Someone else does, either the manufacturer or the carrier.
In large companies, at all the workplace desktop computers, none of the regular workers are allowed to be "admin" or "administrator". The company doesn't want you installing your own software or uninstalling their software. They often have software to track the computer usage, as it's THEIR computer anyway. You have no rights, no expectation of privacy. You are using their hardware.
At HOME, you are the admin of your own personal computer. You can do whatever you wish. Should be the same with your smartphone.
1.5 years ago Samsung sent a BRICK command via OTA update to their Galaxy 7 Note phones on purpose, to force people to return those phones for a different model. No, not all Galaxy 7 phones had the battery flaw, but Samsung deemed it in THEIR best interest to take back all the Galaxy 7 Note phones and replace them with older Galaxy S7 or S7+ phones. This was only possible because Samsung still REALLY OWNED those phones, even though people had paid several hundred dollars to USE them. Until your phone is rooted, someone else owns the phone.
2) MORE FEATURES
Better audio (Viper, etc), HIM mode on ALL headphones, Wi-Fi passwords remembered and viewable, scheduled auto reboots to clear out RAM and start the day fresh, free ad blocking without having to use VPN. You can install a volume control app that will give you 30 or even 100 volume steps. You can install an xposed mod that will let you change the idiotic battery icons in the status bar.
3) TWRP CUSTOM RECOVERY
The ability to make frequent backups that you can restore in a few minutes is an amazing feature itself. It's like having a time machine to go back before you made a mistake.
You can also use TWRP to flash/install apps and mods to make your phone more fun. Install the fonts/emojis of Android P NOW.
4) TITANIUM BACKUP
Gives you "system level" control to backup and restore previous versions of apps. You can also make some user apps be "system" apps to give them more power (like a camera or volume control app) or you can completely uninstall "system" apps a carrier installed for THEIR benefit, not yours (i.e. bloatware, which they make money on).
MORE later. I have to go to work.
There are workarounds to give you some similar features of root like VPN ad blocking -- but in doing speed tests I have higher pings (more lag) as all data is going through a VPN network before I see it. Pure root is just better, for some many reasons.
So usually the first thing I do with all of my phones, is install a custom ROM ( and root obviously ). The newer the phones get the less reasons I find to void warranty and root it. Can someone give me a few good reasons to root my S9 plus, or tell me the reasons as to why you did it.
Thanks, Andrew.
Necessity to root, install ROMs has become less compared to earlier days with latest smartphones. But I flashed a custom ROM ( Resurrection Remix using TWRP) on the G-965F recently to stay away from samsung services and to get out of midrocre batterytime of the stock Firmware. Performance is out of the world and batterytime is solidly extended with it. Camera portrait mode doesn't work with Google hdr+ camera yet and that's a trade off should work in future.
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Necessity to root, install ROMs has become less compared to earlier days with latest smartphones. But I flashed a custom ROM ( Resurrection Remix using TWRP) on the G-965F recently to stay away from samsung services and to get out of midrocre batterytime of the stock Firmware. Performance is out of the world and batterytime is solidly extended with it. Camera portrait mode doesn't work with Google hdr+ camera yet and that's a trade off should work in future.
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That's the reasons I like also, I've always had loads better battery.
I bummed up, and let my phone reboot after OEM unlock, and now its disappeared for 7 more days again
I rooted all my phones for years, haven't felt the need on the S9+. Package Disabler Pro did everything I needed, and battery life is great (I did a 13 hours shift yesterday with lots of Facebook, photos, video recording, all on intermittent signal on both mobile and wifi, and battery went from 98% at 7am to 58% by 7.30pm.
I really don't know how you'd get much better life, other than a Mate 10 Pro, but they have their own issues...
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I rooted all my phones for years, haven't felt the need on the S9+. Package Disabler Pro did everything I needed, and battery life is great (I did a 13 hours shift yesterday with lots of Facebook, photos, video recording, all on intermittent signal on both mobile and wifi, and battery went from 98% at 7am to 58% by 7.30pm.
I really don't know how you'd get much better life, other than a Mate 10 Pro, but they have their own issues...
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I have noticed that battery life seems to be a hit and miss for people, some get really good, some get really bad.
Mine is mediocre, I feel like it could be better but it's not the worst in the world.
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That's the reasons I like also, I've always had loads better battery.
I bummed up, and let my phone reboot after OEM unlock, and now its disappeared for 7 more days again
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Be careful next time mate.
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Be careful next time mate.
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Yeah I tried to the first time, ah well these things happen haha.
rooting is a little more than just battery life, things like titanium backup still needs root, and if one decides to remove 'bloatware' (i.e. apps that one don't use) be it that they are sometimes nuisance with all the auto updates unwanted notifications, root is still needed
I rooted my galaxy s9 plus for various reasons. First to greatly enhance the audio by viper4android, and with dolby atmos also on at the same time it completely redefines the sound coming from it. Another reason for me was to use L speed, i have to say it actually makes a difference in performance and battery but not that much. And the third reason is to use substratum, i just love it.
So after all of this you think I am trying to convince you to root, but I don't actually recommend rooting this device specifically. Why? I really don't see the need of rooting it. It has everything that I wanted, but because of my childish brain I couldn't control myself so I went ahead and root it. After all, don't root it.
Debloating stuff which improves battery and performance, and a lot of other tweaks. As for me I use it with my ps4 controller using an app requiring me to root. Now I have my own retro console
This is my first phone I have used that includes NFC payment. So I have started to really enjoy the Samsung Pay feature. Are there anyways of still using this after rooting the phone?
Also can someone give a list of things to disable with 'Service Disabler'? I think Package Disabler Pro has been removed from the play store so I can't get it anymore
After having had a lot of Phones where I felt the need to root them, I can agree on what some others said before me, and that is that the S9+ is the first Phone I haven't felt the need for rooting it. It has basically everything I want that root could give me before, the only thing I am yet wanting is Viper4Android and TitaniumBackup, but there is Samsung Cloud for backup (it even works for gamesaves), and then the built in Equalizer is really good compared to any other from other OEM's. There are however downsides from rooting it, like not being able to use Samsung Pay for example, or Google Pay, or (if you're a fan of it, I dislike the game but whatever) Pokémon GO. Basically any app that uses SafetyNet will stop working (Magisk isn't 100% safe either and can fail). As Samsung gives me the option to theme my Phone to dark like I used to do with Root, and overclock it for Games using the GameTuner, and other things I did with root, I see no reason to really root my S9+ for now, maybe when it reaches it's EOL but currently it is better not to root it.
for me s9 plus need to be rooted, it depends what you use the root for
rom, kernal, games, backup, full control of your system
my head into stuff like this
for normal user i doubt it they even know what root can do
i rooted all my phones before the s9 plus this one waiting for it to be rooted
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Necessity to root, install ROMs has become less compared to earlier days with latest smartphones. But I flashed a custom ROM ( Resurrection Remix using TWRP) on the G-965F recently to stay away from samsung services and to get out of midrocre batterytime of the stock Firmware. Performance is out of the world and batterytime is solidly extended with it. Camera portrait mode doesn't work with Google hdr+ camera yet and that's a trade off should work in future.
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is it possible to install ressurection remix without root. or. to be clear. have banking apps, netflix and everything working? with the mi mix 2. this never was an issue when i installed a custom rom (xiaomi.eu rom)
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is it possible to install ressurection remix without root. or. to be clear. have banking apps, netflix and everything working? with the mi mix 2. this never was an issue when i installed a custom rom (xiaomi.eu rom)
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Ironically, you need to have magisk to get those apps to work. If you have magisk, you can change your device fingerprint using a modue called magisk hide props.
Will This Interfere With My Cell Phone Plan
The only reason I am hesitant to root my Galaxy S9 , is that I'm not sure of all of the negative impacts of rooting. here is my question. If I root my phone will i get to keep my cell phone plan? and will i be able to trade in my phone in the future?
I've had a lot of phones, all of them was rooted, even my S7, but the S9+ is my first that I haven't felt the need to root or anything else.
It's just a great phone.
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The only reason I am hesitant to root my Galaxy S9 , is that I'm not sure of all of the negative impacts of rooting. here is my question. If I root my phone will i get to keep my cell phone plan? and will i be able to trade in my phone in the future?
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You will keep your cell phone plan as that's based on the Sim card. And trade in depends on region I think. But factory reset with original recovery and everything should mean you can trade in unless your telecom company doesn't like it
I have kept my Note 8 on samfail since its first days. Eventually I have given up hope on any further development or custom firmware options. Now out of frustration I am ready to pull the plug and just go to stock and get OTA updates and be done with it. I used to use root for so many things, mostly blocking ads, using certain apps that needed root, and just to have options and more control over the device that I own. I have stopped looking for anything or trying to stay on top of this device for at least a year, so I dont know what else there is to do with it. Ad blocking these days seems to block everything useful and I would have to whitelist so many things for it and no simple solution like the way it used to be. Now they make rooting impossible and want to charge over a grand for a new smartphone! ugh,end of rant.
Basically my Note 8 is no longer the swiss army knife that previous rooted smartphones have been for me, and I am not using anything currently that need root that i can think of. I dont know if i will ever need root. I have waited this out thinking in the future that I may need to be rooted but I just dont know anymore. Is there any point of keeping this Note 8 rooted anymore? No TWRP, no xposed,no cfw,seems like a waste to me.
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outlawbiker said:
I have kept my Note 8 on samfail since its first days. Eventually I have given up hope on any further development or custom firmware options. Now out of frustration I am ready to pull the plug and just go to stock and get OTA updates and be done with it. I used to use root for so many things, mostly blocking ads, using certain apps that needed root, and.........
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I´m on bootloader v5 so I couldn`t root it but not missing it at all. In this scenario with no development for snapdragon variant no much to play with. You´ll finally lost updates and security patches and the worst of all probably the best android version with pie.
SubwayChamp said:
I´m on bootloader v5 so I couldn`t root it but not missing it at all. In this scenario with no development for snapdragon variant no much to play with. You´ll finally lost updates and security patches and the worst of all probably the best android version with pie.
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I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
outlawbiker said:
I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I am on the same boat. I was waiting for future development, but the lack of it, the 80% battery and so many other things just frustrated the hell out of me. I basically want 3minit battery and Titanium backup in my devices so that when it comes time to twitch devices, I don't have to spend a day or two setting it up app by app. Other than that you are right. Not too many other apps are needed. I switched to a Pixel 3Xl to get unlocked bootloader and root. Now I'm happy with it. Stock Android seems a bit raw and unfinished at first but it does grow on you with time.
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I absolutely feel the pain of the OP. I have a S8+ on SamFail bootloader v1. I recently had the option to buy a Note 8 (bootloader v5) and couldn't decide if I wanted to switch from the semi-root of samfail'd S8+ to a stock Note 8...? Like the OP my main use is AdAway and one or two other apps that require root... I'm not sure what options are available for ad-blocking on non-rooted devices and how well they work? but that's a big one for me.
Sadly for USA variant (bootloader locked) devices the rooting/rom'ing party is over. And unless you want to stay a generation behind buying a international Exynos F model is expensive... (last years models are still expensive but usually about half of whatever the current series is)
I just gave up with root on my Note 8 about 2 weeks ago. Ad blocking is missed dearly. Just like others mentioned here, the gains for ditching root on snapdragon notes seem to be worth it. My root experience on this device just ain't the same as other devices I've rooted. My next note will be an exynos device for sure. If you don't mind setting up each app all over again I think going back to stock is good...as much as I hate to say it and be "regular". The extra 20% battery is noticeable in my daily usage too.
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I just gave up with root on my Note 8 about 2 weeks ago. Ad blocking is missed dearly. Just like others mentioned here, the gains for ditching root on snapdragon notes seem to be worth it. My root experience on this device just ain't the same as other devices I've rooted. My next note will be an exynos device for sure. If you don't mind setting up each app all over again I think going back to stock is good...as much as I hate to say it and be "regular". The extra 20% battery is noticeable in my daily usage too.
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If you're concerned about ads why haven't you tried adhell?
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If you're concerned about ads why haven't you tried adhell?
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Thanks. Didn't know about AdHell. I quickly learned of SABS too. I'll be looking into both very soon.
I have the note 8 but it's strictly for work, I have the 6t for play and honestly it's still stock, except I flashed it with the international rom from TMobiles. I just use adguard which blocks everything you want and it's a yearly subscription that doesn't cost much check it out.
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I have the note 8 but it's strictly for work, I have the 6t for play and honestly it's still stock, except I flashed it with the international rom from TMobiles. I just use adguard which blocks everything you want and it's a yearly subscription that doesn't cost much check it out.
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What does ad blocking apps do? I've had some but when I watch bootleg movies online(lol) I still see ads?
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BTW im a huge Samsung phone fan since epic tough 4g but I have up after note 8....it's just to mind boggling to root Sammy phones if your on T-Mobile like me who don't want to pay for the phone upfront ends up getting the locked boots....anyway I'm on OnePlus 6t converted to international...unlocked my boots flashed twrp flashed magisk flashed a custom kernel and that's it headache free viper4android for louder sound and subs to make the phone look the way I want it to.....
I have to admit I still play around with my note 8 especially after the pie update looks good
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I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I've been thinking for about 2 years now, since the G925V, it is the way in which we root the device that is the problem. Technically speaking, our actual method of perma-rooting a device is about the same as it was 10 years ago. And since CF stopped working on Samsung Devices, it seems no one else will really. I really think that's the problem, no one ever filled the void left by CF quitting Samsung public dev work.
Is Chainfire's way the only way? Or the only way that's really been developed?
So I been a long time Android user and all my devices had always been rooted. Recently I been having this dilemma that with how hard is getting to root devices like huawei or some other devices and with the issue of warranty, also the fact that almost every custom ROM has Bugs and issues some minors some a bit more concerning like cameras not working reboots etc. I tried many different ROMs before with my other devices and honestly they all had issues sometimes even worse then the original ROM constants flashing for the fixes and factory resets etc. Even with custom kernels and stock ROMs with stock kernels rooting wasn't making real sense. To be able to modify my kernel settings for what 20 minutes more of sot with lag or reboots, oc for what reason to have my phone over heat? To erase bloatware? I can disable them and through adb with our rooting. Before it made sense because Android was a young os and many things need root to be applied but now Im not sure . Do the benefits supersede the cost and time?
So my question is: does it really makes sense to root Android at this point ?
I agree, every android phone I had was rooted the day it came out of the box. Since I have a Huawei device, for me there is no more reason for rooting. Also the trouble isn't worth the risk anymore. No big benefits.
The main reason for me is adaway and lucky patcher but the time I'm spending to read posts on xda is really big because I'm scared to brake anything I would only recommend it if it's fun to you to play around with this kind of stuff and you are willing to spend time and risk your phone probably
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The main reason for me is adaway and lucky patcher but the time I'm spending to read posts on xda is really big because I'm scared to brake anything I would only recommend it if it's fun to you to play around with this kind of stuff and you are willing to spend time and risk your phone probably
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I agree with you, I would spend so much time before reading and making sure that I wasn't going to hardbrick my device that it is very hard to keep doing it, I already hardbrick another huawei phone and it basically was left useless, after everything went fine with rooting and custom kernel it turn on boot normally then all of a sudden it didn't turn back on , only on fastboot mode, never found a way to recover it. Like you said if you have a spare device it's cool I even use to cook my own ROMs and cherry pick things I liked from source code but that was with devices like the htc m8 which was alot more developer friendly.
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The main reason for me is adaway and lucky patcher but the time I'm spending to read posts on xda is really big because I'm scared to brake anything I would only recommend it if it's fun to you to play around with this kind of stuff and you are willing to spend time and risk your phone probably
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For adds I use virtual hosts app. No root needed, just the app and a hosts file on your sd card.
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there is literally no other logic to root your device in modern times other than to get viper 4 android or james dsp.
in olden days i used to root ....to get full screen usage on device by hiding navigation bar ...like immersive mode etc....but now they have gesture navigation .....
. stock headphones audio controls/quality on each and every phone is "****" as compared to V4A .... and this thing this issue of inferiority will always remain...
custom roms are buggy....i have nevver ever come across a single custom rom in the past 7 years .... which didn't have bugs..... no matter how stable they claim it is/was .
coming towards huawei....at least they updated these kirin970 devices much much earlier than samsung phone flagship ones.... which released after..... these mates and honors ....
greatgrandking said:
there is literally no other logic to root your device in modern times other than to get viper 4 android or james dsp.
in olden days i used to root ....to get full screen usage on device by hiding navigation bar ...like immersive mode etc....but now they have gesture navigation .....
. stock headphones audio controls/quality on each and every phone is "****" as compared to V4A .... and this thing this issue of inferiority will always remain...
custom roms are buggy....i have nevver ever come across a single custom rom in the past 7 years .... which didn't have bugs..... no matter how stable they claim it is/was .
coming towards huawei....at least they updated these kirin970 devices much much earlier than samsung phone flagship ones.... which released after..... these mates and honors ....
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I totally agree, I have never ever come across a custom ROMs that isn't buggy they all have bugs and there's always something that you have to lose in terms of stock functionality in order to make them work. I'm really digging huawei devices even tho they have taken that Stand on the bootloader .
Almost all new browsers have ad block included so ads don't bother me in my use of the device. I had OP6 b4 and it was rooted and I personally can't see any difference in day2day use between rooted and non rooted device.
just wish there was an easy way to put the phone in airplane mode without root
Gremio1903 said:
Almost all new browsers have ad block included so ads don't bother me in my use of the device. I had OP6 b4 and it was rooted and I personally can't see any difference in day2day use between rooted and non rooted device.
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I personally use brave browser which is a great super fast browser and it has tons of ad blocking option as well as sync between pc and the phone and it's not resource hungry like chrome. It's a great browser i really haven't found any good reason for rooting this mate 10 pro. Besides reading so many people bricking the **** out of this phone is just not worth my time.
Another thing: Ability to clock down CPU to save battery.
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Another thing: Ability to clock down CPU to save battery.
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Yeah that's a must on a 9-10h SoT phone