I have owned lg g4 and im still actually, the funy thing is not a single update not even one scurity update since i bought it (september 2016) . LG promized Nougat though..
I gave LG another chance with LG G6 purshased last march i was surprised to find a flagship still runing on nougat while other start reciving android p beta..
I have recived a majore 20a and minore 20b update since then witch is good, but apparently it is still not smooth ( korea first and then region x and then region y and then model xy...etc witch takes ages to reach some countries. and some region/ model are completely ignored..?
The bottom line is LG produce brilliant phones but if software support is not provided at least to flagships for 2 years customers will runaway and LG will lose money as they did the recent years and this year (Lg mobile)
I have read this today about oneplus:
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3-oneplus-3t-android-p-update/
Without forgeting nokia and others witch Lg must take exemple if it dosnt want to sink.
Rambling on an internet forum isn't gonna make a phone company listen to you. We've heard it countless times. Call customer service, tweet at them, or do something else about it if it matters that much to you.
Or just don't buy their products. Period.
***for LG updates are important to me and LG skipped them im still on nougat and there is no official new from LG customers care team regarding for next update
LOL.
They support is like a low price phone not a flagship
fegitoli said:
Rambling on an internet forum isn't gonna make a phone company listen to you. We've heard it countless times. Call customer service, tweet at them, or do something else about it if it matters that much to you.
Or just don't buy their products. Period.
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With all my respect, its not up to you to tell me what to do. I just thought this matter is worth disscution, so if you want to disscuss you more than welcom if not please dont try to analyse or judge.
And im not so mad as you imagine, im satisfied with both purchased at 250£ and 245£ i got what i payed for.
but for someone else who payed 700£ day one ? painful!!!
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With all my respect, its not up to you to tell me what to do. I just thought this matter is worth disscution, so if you want to disscuss you more than welcom if not please dont try to analyse or judge.
And im not so mad as you imagine, im satisfied with both purchased at 250£ and 245£ i got what i payed for.
but for someone else who payed 700£ day one painful!!!
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He answered like this because this matter has been discussed a lot already, many people, like me, have been disappointed, but i didn't only come here to complain, i also complained to them for months on twitter and via E-Mails, and i won't buy an LG devices ever again, moreover all the people around me will know my experience and i'll try to keep them fro buying LG phones.
These are all things that have (or may have) real effects on LG, complain here is useless i'm afraid, if you don't believe just check all the threads that have been created on the Oreo update, or the updates in general since last summer where all begun, and if you bought a G6 after last summer, well, you should have known how LG behaves on software updates and shouldn't have bought it.
Have a nice day, meanwhile i'll wait to throw this ****ty G6 away to buy a sparkly red OnePlus 6
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***for LG updates are important to me and LG skipped them im still on nougat and there is no official new from LG customers care team regarding for next update
LOL.
They support is like a low price phone not a flagship
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It doesn't matter if it's low-priced device or a flagship - both of these segments should be treated equally. Remember that Nokia 2 or Nokia 3 are not very powerful, they may be treated as low-priced ones but ALL HMD-Nokia devices are getting P. I tried to defend LG to the very last moments but right now I know that G6 is my last LG phone ever. I will be looking for a company which cares for their products instead of just releasing them, I will wait a little bit for Gorilla Glass 6, newer processor, some other inventions and then buy something.
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He answered like this because this matter has been discussed a lot already, many people, like me, have been disappointed
Have a nice day, meanwhile i'll wait to throw this ****ty G6 away to buy a sparkly red OnePlus 6
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Right on the money, sir.
To the OP, apologies for my blatantly sarcastic response, but with all due respect, this doesn't seem to be a matter worth discussing since it's been heard countless times before (and I mean countless, do a google search and you'll find tons of threads like these).
I didn't intend to criticize you or be rude to you in any way, so please accept my apology. You're right. I can't control what you do. Just be mindful that this isn't the first time we've seen someone complain about how lousy of a company LG is. We're all on the same boat here, and we all suffer equally from LG's mediocrity
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Right on the money, sir.
To the OP, apologies for my blatantly sarcastic response, but with all due respect, this doesn't seem to be a matter worth discussing since it's been heard countless times before (and I mean countless, do a google search and you'll find tons of threads like these).
I didn't intend to criticize you or be rude to you in any way, so please accept my apology. You're right. I can't control what you do. Just be mindful that this isn't the first time we've seen someone complain about how lousy of a company LG is. We're all on the same boat here, and we all suffer equally from LG's mediocrity
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It's alright lad, no problem at all.
To be fair am not a regular in xda or else forum thats why i didn't konw this been discussed countless times..
The funny thing is i own a surface pro with windows 10 updates every 2/3 days and no way to stop it, sometimes update in the background and restart without my permission ?
All the best
fegitoli said:
Right on the money, sir.
To the OP, apologies for my blatantly sarcastic response, but with all due respect, this doesn't seem to be a matter worth discussing since it's been heard countless times before (and I mean countless, do a google search and you'll find tons of threads like these).
I didn't intend to criticize you or be rude to you in any way, so please accept my apology. You're right. I can't control what you do. Just be mindful that this isn't the first time we've seen someone complain about how lousy of a company LG is. We're all on the same boat here, and we all suffer equally from LG's mediocrity
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It's alright lad, no problem at all.
To be fair am not a regular in xda or else forum thats why i didn't konw this been discussed countless times..
The funny thing is i own a surface pro with windows 10 updates every 2/3 days and no way to stop it, sometimes update in the background and restart without my permission ?
All the best
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I'm in a bad mood, it looks like there won't be an official Gingerbread update for my P509. I'm now reconsidering Android in general. Read my rant here if you're interested:
Android Product Life Cycle, it's potential downfall?
Anyway, so what do you think based on specs and features, is Apple in good hands without Steve Jobs? I say yes.
It'd be cool if you could apply an avatar to Siri
2.3 is out for the Sprint version. It's ready but its t-mobiles decision when to release it. Gingerbread has been out for the international Optimus as well. For us t-mobile users we should just root and install mik's cm7 or any Rom u like. It was painless for me.
Sent from my LG-P509 using XDA App
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2.3 is out for the Sprint version. It's ready but its t-mobiles decision when to release it. Gingerbread has been out for the international Optimus as well. For us t-mobile users we should just root and install mik's cm7 or any Rom u like. It was painless for me.
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LG forum mods don't believe it will be released for the Optimus T .
T-Mobile has made no promises.
The Optimus S release was so f**ked up that they pulled it on Sept. 28th
It's a mess and it ain't gonna happen.
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LG forum mods don't believe it will be released for the Optimus T .
T-Mobile has made no promises.
The Optimus S release was so f**ked up that they pulled it on Sept. 28th
It's a mess and it ain't gonna happen.
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LG promised all phones will receive a minimum of 1 version upgrade. Whether you will believe that or not idk. I'm running happy with mik's CM7 and I would never go back to stock. You should give it a shot. Stock Rom will not match the performance of this.
EDIT: I headed over to the Optimus S section on another forum and it seems ok. Some quirks and bugs, but seems usable.
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LG promised all phones will receive a minimum of 1 version upgrade. Whether you will believe that or not idk. I'm running happy with mik's CM7 and I would never go back to stock. You should give it a shot. Stock Rom will not match the performance of this.
EDIT: I headed over to the Optimus S section on another forum and it seems ok. Some quirks and bugs, but seems usable.
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As of Sept 8th US T-Mobile had not yet contacted LG to begin the process. I've done a fair bit of digging on this. I hope I'm wrong but I didn't just pull this out of my arse. It's all over the LG and US Tmo forums.
With regards to the Optimus S they wouldn't have pulled it if there weren't some serious issues.
I'm running CM7 and happy with it but I don't recall seeing a disclaimer saying "update it yourself"
P.S. The 3GS released in June of 2009 and was just updated to iOS 5, now that's service
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As of Sept 8th US T-Mobile had not yet contacted LG to begin the process. I've done a fair bit of digging on this. I hope I'm wrong but I didn't just pull this out of my arse. It's all over the LG and US Tmo forums.
With regards to the Optimus S they wouldn't have pulled it if there weren't some serious issues.
I'm running CM7 and happy with it but I don't recall seeing a disclaimer saying "update it yourself"
P.S. The 3GS released in June of 2009 and was just updated to iOS 5, now that's service
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Updates for Android are slow and it's pretty obvious. Comparing android updates to Apple is not the right thing. Apple just has to look after a few devices. Iphone 3/GS/4/4S. While there are hundreds of android devices. Even though devices are split between manufacturers like Samsung/HTC/LG they still have 10-30 devices to look after and high end devices will always be their top priority. It's a bummer, but we will just have to deal with it until Google comes up with something and they have taken this into account. They have said publicly that they know this is a major problem with Android and they are looking for ways to fix this. Lucky almost all high end phones have great developer support so we don't have to wait for the manufacturer.
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Updates for Android are slow and it's pretty obvious. Comparing android updates to Apple is not the right thing. Apple just has to look after a few devices. Iphone 3/GS/4/4S. While there are hundreds of android devices. Even though devices are split between manufacturers like Samsung/HTC/LG they still have 10-30 devices to look after and high end devices will always be their top priority. It's a bummer, but we will just have to deal with it until Google comes up with something and they have taken this into account. They have said publicly that know this is a major problem with Android and they are looking for ways to fix this. Lucky almost all high end phones have great developer support so we don't have to wait for the manufacturer.
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Google claiming ignorance as their defense, that's rich.
High end phones get great treatment, somebody file a lawsuit, please! Google will continue to drag their feet until they're forced to change. That's just how business works these days.
Anyway, here's to hoping............
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Google claiming ignorance as their defense, that's rich.
High end phones get great treatment, somebody file a lawsuit, please! Google will continue to drag their feet until they're forced to change. That's just how business works these days.
Anyway, here's to hoping............
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It's a wise decision to invest into a higher end phone. Don't expect to get the same treatment when you got a lower end device because sadly things don't work that way. Phones like the Optimus/Galaxy Ace/Mini/Gio are pretty much not even budget phones anymore. They are at the bottom of the bottom. The mid-range phones now are the low end phones now. Things are shifting and it would be a waste of time for them to get in the trouble of working on a phone that is obsolete.
Feeshie said:
2.3 is out for the Sprint version. It's ready but its t-mobiles decision when to release it. Gingerbread has been out for the international Optimus as well. For us t-mobile users we should just root and install mik's cm7 or any Rom u like. It was painless for me.
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I've install different roms, on my Optimus T and i have the same issues with all of them, the MMS come to small and i refuse to use the GO sms app so i'm stuck on stock! was really hopping on the Gingerbread version!
Turducken said:
Google claiming ignorance as their defense, that's rich.
High end phones get great treatment, somebody file a lawsuit, please! Google will continue to drag their feet until they're forced to change. That's just how business works these days.
Anyway, here's to hoping............
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Anyway, why bother waiting for LG stock ****, LG gingerbread really crap on Optimus One, with so many bugs.
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Anyway, why bother waiting for LG stock ****, LG gingerbread really crap on Optimus One, with so many bugs.
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I agree my point exactly. Where's the QC? Google cashed in by not holding it's partners responsible. They had the power to do it right, and CHOSE not to. This isn't an accident.
Us XDA members will work it out but the other 90% of users are staring at a ****ty phone, saying "I think I'll by an iPhone next time". I've heard way too many times from noob friends of mine. In fact, I don't even recommend Android to friends anymore.
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I agree my point exactly. Where's the QC? Google cashed in by not holding it's partners responsible. They had the power to do it right, and CHOSE not to. This isn't an accident.
Us XDA members will work it out but the other 90% of users are staring at a ****ty phone, saying "I think I'll by an iPhone next time". I've heard way too many times from noob friends of mine. In fact, I don't even recommend Android to friends anymore.
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You don't have to buy LG if your not satisfied with their products and their quality. In the end, if you buy a low end phone you get what you paid for. TBH This phone without the great developers we have would be a POS.
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You don't have to buy LG if your not satisfied with their products and their quality. In the end, if you buy a low end phone you get what you paid for.
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You clearly didn't read the link in my first post did you? It's an OS and updates include security patches. These are necessary not optional! IMO my 2 year contract has been breached by TMO LG or Google (let the lawyers figure it out)
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TBH This phone without the great developers we have would be a POS.
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Amen but it's not just this phone it's ALOT of them.
no, thanks
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Us XDA members will work it out but the other 90% of users are staring at a ****ty phone, saying "I think I'll by an iPhone next time". I've heard way too many times from noob friends of mine. In fact, I don't even recommend Android to friends anymore.
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You're making me laugh.
Let me see, you're comparing Android on a $200 max phone with an iPhone? A low-end phone will never provide the real Android experience.
I was looking at my O1 and I said "I think I'll buy a better droid next time, this one is just offering me a small taste of what Android can do". So I did; I bought a better, dual-core, 4.3" phone. Trust me, daily use of Android on a premium phone can't be compared to daily use on a cheap one.
So don't compare your O1 to an iPhone. Try and compare a GS2, Arc S, Sensation, Droid Bionic, Nexus etc to an iPhone and then see if the iPhone's really worth it.
might get it
or stick to android
off course buy high end android phone
such like not sgs 2, sensation / sensation xe / evo 3d and other
22VIN...
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are
RIGHT!
I don't understand people comparing a $200- old phone to a $700+ fresh-tech phone...
From my point of view iPhone and all other closed phones may rests on the shelves forever, coz are too performance/price unbalanced.
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22VIN...
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I don't understand people comparing a $200- old phone to a $700+ fresh-tech phone...
From my point of view iPhone and all other closed phones may rests on the shelves forever, coz are too performance/price unbalanced.
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Hardware and Software are different.
What's so hard to understand about wanting a well defined Product LifeCycle?
Buy a $300 Windows Home Laptop and buy a $2000 Windows Professional despktop. The SOFTWARE Product Lifecycle is the same.
No wonder Google is dragging it's feet with regards to this fragmentation. It's customers have been brainwashed. I thought Android users were supposed to be the smart ones... do yourselves a favor and THINK.
P.S. a iPhone 4S is $99 with contract in the US.
**EDIT**
I went down to the Apple Store this morning and played with one... It's pretty nice. I'm not getting one, I'm just pissed at Google (we all should be).
I already sent the letter to ASUS support. I hope to hear something back.
Dear Asus,
I have owned many consumer electronic devices and I must say, the TF201 is hands down the WORST piece of gadget I have ever owned. Nothing about it works and the worst part is, you are reluctant to help us to make it work.
For 10 months, we, the users, have been beta testing the TF201 so that you can develop better, improved products like the 700. We paid over 500 dollars to test products for you and receive no support. We have been through numerous ANR on simple tasks such as web browsing or playing a 2D game. Seriously? Is this what we paid 500 dollars for? Not only that, every subsequent firmware update did nothing to improve the product. Yet asus hasn't done much to help the situation. You provide the users with a half baked bootloader unlock tool that doesn't work for 50% of the users (check XDA). When asked to fix the bootloader unlock tool, ASUS says they dont support unlocking the device and can't do anything about it. Asus requested users to RMA their device to fix the bootloaded issue yet when the users get it back, there had been no change. No issues were addressed. Now we are stuck with a garbage firmware from ASUS that can’t even do the simplest things right and users can't even put a custom ROM to help make our experience better.
Two days ago, you released an OTA for jellybean which failed to update for about half the existing owners. Now when we check for the update, the tablet can't find it anymore and we are stuck with the same crappy 4.0.3 firmware. The devs are going above and beyond to modify the update file so it can work for everyone (check XDA) since asus is too lazy to upload the firmware on their support/download page. I got a question for you ASUS, can you do ANYTHING right? How much do you have to suck to screw up an OTA? I have used many android products from many vendors and NONE of them had nearly as many issues as the TF201. In the dev community it is called the bastard child. Many owners simply sold it at a loss or were successful at trading it at bestbuy for something else since Asus would not support them. You have the courage to charge customer $500+ for such a garbage device yet you provide this level of support? I understand problems happen and users are willing to cope with issues. But the least you could do is support your product by providing us with a functioning bootloader unlocker so the users that are having problems with the garbage firmware can at least use a custom firmware to make it useable again. We paid for this device and we expect some level of functionality such as browsing the web for the money we paid. At the very least, you can upload the new firmware on the support page so users who are having issues downloading the firmware (because some engineers can’t even make a functioning OTA) can at least manually upgrade to 4.1.
Overall, I must say, this tablet has done nothing more than frustrating me. Every time I go to use it, something goes wrong. I hope someone reads this email and feels guilty for charging upwards of $500 to deliver such subpar device to its consumers. At the very least, check out the XDA forum for TF201 and see how much time is being spent by users to simply get a straightforward OTA. Finally, if asus can’t deliver remotely what they promised, they should leave the tablet game for companies that know how to build a decent firmware or OTA.
Sincerely,
A disappointed customer
Given their track record, they will probably ignore it. I dont expect to hear anything back.
I have the same feelings as you, but post this on their facebook page or something if you want it to make some kind of impact. Here on XDA there are what, like 2 Asus marketing employees who occasionally come by?
Your opinion
I respect your right to have an opinion. I actually only come to this developers website to read productive opinions. Your opinion has no purpose here other than to fan the flames of your ire. It's useless for productive people and the moderators should delete your thread.
Yuhfhrh said:
I have the same feelings as you, but post this on their facebook page or something if you want it to make some kind of impact. Here on XDA there are what, like 2 Asus marketing employees who occasionally come by?
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I already posted on their FB page. But they deleted it. So I emailed them directly. I am looking for Jony shi's email address so I can email him personally. I am pretty sure he has no clue how bad the team F'ed it up
I thought most people who had issues with the OTA had rooted their tablet and messed with it somehow. To me it seems like asus has made sure the update works for everyone who hasn't done anything to their prime and that it doesn't brick anyones tablet, and it seems many people are able to get their tablet back into a state such that they can install the update. I really don't think we could expect them to do much more.
Also I don't get why the download problems where so terrible, it's still only been two days since the first release and I think most people are able to get the update pretty quickly now.
And also note that not only did they get us jellybean quicker than most other devices, but they also fixed one of the biggest issues with the prime (ANR). The only thing I really am disappointed over is the lack of status updates leading up to the release.
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I respect your right to have an opinion. I actually only come to this developers website to read productive opinions. Your opinion has no purpose here other than to fan the flames of your ire. It's useless for productive people and the moderators should delete your thread.
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This kind of attitude of being quiet and trying to figure things out by ourselves is why ASUS can get away with it. No one brings it up. TF201 is probably the worst tablet out their for android in its price range and it has been 10 months and there have been no improvements. I am not whining, I am just stating something that is unfair. No matter how much the devs try, they can't unlock the prime unless ASUS does something. And most of us dont have hours to fiddle with something like OTA that should just work. So we SHOULD bring up the issue. I think more people should contact ASUS directly until something is done because clearly we can't solve the problem.
We deserve something better than a paperweight for $500.
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I thought most people who had issues with the OTA had rooted their tablet and messed with it somehow. To me it seems like asus has made sure the update works for everyone who hasn't done anything to their prime and that it doesn't brick anyones tablet, and it seems many people are able to get their tablet back into a state such that they can install the update. I really don't think we could expect them to do much more.
Also I don't get why the download problems where so terrible, it's still only been two days since the first release and I think most people are able to get the update pretty quickly now.
And also note that not only did they get us jellybean quicker than most other devices, but they also fixed one of the biggest issues with the prime (ANR). The only thing I really am disappointed over is the lack of status updates leading up to the release.
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I am stock unrooted. My download failed and my tablet can't find it anymore. And ASSUS is too busy watching porn and dont have the time to upload the firmware to their website.
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This kind of attitude of being quiet and trying to figure things out by ourselves is why ASUS can get away with it. No one brings it up. TF201 is probably the worst tablet out their for android in its price range and it has been 10 months and there have been no improvements. I am not whining, I am just stating something that is unfair. No matter how much the devs try, they can't unlock the prime unless ASUS does something. And most of us dont have hours to fiddle with something like OTA that should just work. So we SHOULD bring up the issue. I think more people should contact ASUS directly until something is done because clearly we can't solve the problem.
We deserve something better than a paperweight for $500.
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Although I agree with the sentiment (I too have a prime) i'm seriously fed up of coming on this forum and seeing people complain.
there are enough complaint threads already.
I am fortunate enough to have been able to unlock my device, but that in itself contains massive risks (I almost bricked mine a couple of weeks ago)
when trying to look for a solution to my partial brick, all I could find were complaint threads. even semi useful threads were full of complaints. this made the task very frustrating.
By all means complain to Asus... but PLEASE enough with these threads and all of the thread jacking that is going on.. I want rid of my prime not because of performance, but because I can't read any thread in any section of the Prime forum without having to hear the same people complaining again and again.
I'm sorry if this seems confrontational, but I have seriously had enough of it!!
P.S. OP, please change the subject of this post to something more relevant like "My complaint letter to Asus ( Yet another complaint thread)"
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This kind of attitude of being quiet and trying to figure things out by ourselves is why ASUS can get away with it. No one brings it up. TF201 is probably the worst tablet out their for android in its price range and it has been 10 months and there have been no improvements. I am not whining, I am just stating something that is unfair. No matter how much the devs try, they can't unlock the prime unless ASUS does something. And most of us dont have hours to fiddle with something like OTA that should just work. So we SHOULD bring up the issue. I think more people should contact ASUS directly until something is done because clearly we can't solve the problem.
We deserve something better than a paperweight for $500.
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My point is that this post here is not that thing you claim to want. Nobody here works for asus and nobody here is looking for the opinion of the unhappy user. Its been done to death and is not an original thought.
People dont come to this site (or shouldnt) hoping the manufacturer is here to fix the problems they have.
I honestly don't know what you're trying to achieve here. First of all, this is what, the 14th thousand complaint thread OF THE DAY? We get it, you hate your device. Now be a big boy and sell the damn thing if you're so fed up with it. Second of all, if you want Asus to take your letter seriously, or read it without groaning like I did, don't use phrases like "how much do you have to suck" or "crappy, garbage firmware". If you expect Asus to respond professionally, I'd start by not sounding like a 12 year old boy that had his toy broken.
Jellybean's been out 2 days. TWO WHOPPING DAYS. If you can't access the update now I'd suggest you wait a week or two, because evidently you're not the only Prime user in the world. There are plenty of people who are also attempting to update their device, and mind I point out that many have gotten the new firmware and are quite happy with the result. There's no need to throw a fit simply because you weren't among the firsts in line.
Finally, don't complain about not being able to put custom ROMs on your device. That's not Asus' problem. We all know that unlocking the bootloader and flashing custom ROMs void the warranty. No one forced you to do it, and if you did it and borked your device, Asus has no obligation to fix it for you. I fully understand the risks of tampering with the firmware, and if tomorrow I flashed something new and bricked my Prime, I wouldn't go running to Asus and demand an answer.
I have my fair share of problems with the Prime, trust me. But this forum has brought whining to a whole new level.
sorry fellas i have to agree with op. and im not hatin on asus. i have a nexus seven and two high end asus laptops (though the keyboards are absolute ****) which i love. the prime is the biggest piece of **** ever sold to the american public. i mean really? you bottleneck the device by having horribly slow storage? and a device that is only wifi with **** wifi?
i took mine back to best buy today and recieved a 538 dollar credit. so it was made right by best buy. praise baby jesus that POS is gone and i didnt take a loss.
I wish i could get my money back for this POS from gamestop or asus. I shouldnt have to sell it for a loss because of asuses broken promises and lack of competence.
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My point is that this post here is not that thing you claim to want. Nobody here works for asus and nobody here is looking for the opinion of the unhappy user. Its been done to death and is not an original thought.
People dont come to this site (or shouldnt) hoping the manufacturer is here to fix the problems they have.
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I don't get it. While I do understand that Prime XDA forum is nothing but complaints (I wonder why...), you also have an option to not read any of them. But you continue to reply to majority of them... mock the individual... and say "blah blah blah"... just as useless as many other complaint threads as you put it.
And really?? Gary Key doesn't work for Asus? Asus_Tien doesn't work for Asus??
Same for my.deleate mesage and user....
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I actually do agree with whycali... we have too many thread complaining about the device... what is the point? does the number of threads make a difference to Asus?... if you have problems with the device, that's really bad luck, but use an existing thread instead of creating a new one... I rarely read these thread of complaints, but it's becoming really hard to find useful threads...
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I actually do agree with whycali... we have too many thread complaining about the device... what is the point? does the number of threads make a difference to Asus?... if you have problems with the device, that's really bad luck, but use an existing thread instead of creating a new one... I rarely read these thread of complaints, but it's becoming really hard to find useful threads...
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I agree... I almost didn't buy my prime because of all the negative things that have been said here. Thankfully I decided to make up my own mind and im glad i did. Best thing i have bought myself in awhile.
Thankfully im reporting non of the issue's that everyone else has been. maybe im Lucky or people are just blowing things out of proportion. Ive been using ASUS products for years and Ive never had problems with any of their products.... can't believe that their build quality has went down that much since the last computer i built which is still running fine today.
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I agree... I almost didn't buy my prime because of all the negative things that have been said here. Thankfully I decided to make up my own mind and im glad i did. Best thing i have bought myself in awhile.
Thankfully im reporting non of the issue's that everyone else has been. maybe im Lucky or people are just blowing things out of proportion. Ive been using ASUS products for years and Ive never had problems with any of their products.... can't believe that their build quality has went down that much since the last computer i built which is still running fine today.
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Yes, I love this device... I've had no problems with anything so far... and it's the best device I've purchased...
I don't think their build quality has really gone down... cuz like you I've been using Asus products for a while...maybe it's just one of those devices.... something that every company faces...
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Yes, I love this device... I've had no problems with anything so far... and it's the best device I've purchased...
I don't think their build quality has really gone down... cuz like you I've been using Asus products for a while...maybe it's just one of those devices.... something that every company faces...
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Well as long as mine works perfectly it doesn't matter what anybody says.... just sad that i come on here to discuss what people are doing with their tabs and what cool things are being done and all i see is negativity.
out of every forum here on xda ive looked at this one for the prime seems to be the worst.
I get that the prime is not perfect and has its flaws, but what i really don't get is why people are upset about OTA problem^^
OTA's are supposed to work for stock devices, if you do stuff like rooting and modding you should be aware that OTAs might not work anymore. Yes even rooting and installing busybox will modify your system and may cause OTA problems.
I personally have no problems with my prime. Happy user since last January. And now it has jellay bean! <3 loving it so far
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Although I agree with the sentiment (I too have a prime) i'm seriously fed up of coming on this forum and seeing people complain.
there are enough complaint threads already.
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I'm personally fed up with people being fed up at seeing so many complaint threads. Be mad at Asus for selling us a crappy product and not supporting it. This product deserves to have an XDA thread chock full of complaint threads to remind people who see them what a garbage company Asus is.
Lg is dragging its feet on getting KITKAT out to the owners of simfree International versions of the LG G2...it seems all to familiar to owners of earlier promising LG handsets. KitKat does exist or our phones....so why do we not have it?
LG has THE WORST reputation for updates and it is proving that this reputation is deserved. I really do not understand why a company that is leading edge in all areas of Android development does not seem to understand that late deployment of updates HARMS its reputation and loose sales!
The KitKat firmware is there, put it on the servers!!!!!
People choose to trust LG by buying the phone simfree, so reward us with the quickest updates!
This Phone has done much to restore faith in LG and this dilly dallying is damaging the image turn around the G2 allowed.
What do other readers think? Is LG again reverting to type and deliberately avoiding updating Phones? LG works so closely with Google at the moment that there really is no excuse for being so late....Q1 is rapidly ending and they NEED to get this sorted TODAY!
Sorry to burst your bubble but you'll be seriously disappointed with Kit Kat. It's not some groundbreaking update. TBH, it's just the need to have the latest and greatest, objectively this phone runs just as great with JB as it does with KK. Whoever says differently is fooling himself.
So sit back, relax, enjoy probably the best phone out there and stop counting down the days.
What i want to know is how you can put a [Q] before your thread title and think it's still ok to post in General and not you know... Questions and Answers section?!
But to answer your question the update is coming you can do it manually or just wait the real problem is the awful audio bug in Kitkat and the lack of an official response on what they are doing about it.
oke! that is probably very good advice. So i will take it. Thank you for the reply, appreciated.
What about his spelling? Any mistakes?
I agree I'm not impressed with lg, the phone is great but god this update is dragging ?
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What about his spelling? Any mistakes?
I agree I'm not impressed with lg, the phone is great but god this update is dragging ?
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Do it manually then. It won't be any different to what gets pushed out OTA and you don't lose anything by doing it manually either keeps apps etc.
I shouldn't have to do it manually and tbh there isn't a uk version to download and after listening to all the whinging because people have put different regions on their phones I'll have wait.
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There is a Eur Open rom and chances are that will be the EXACT file we get as an update. I haven't seen much whinging about putting different region roms on phones unless you mean putting D805 on a D802 etc which i wouldn't recommend anyway...
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Sorry to burst your bubble but you'll be seriously disappointed with Kit Kat. It's not some groundbreaking update. TBH, it's just the need to have the latest and greatest, objectively this phone runs just as great with JB as it does with KK. Whoever says differently is fooling himself.
So sit back, relax, enjoy probably the best phone out there and stop counting down the days.
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Well said. Had KK on my G2 for a few days but i will struggle to name just 3 things that are better now than before. To be honest I had to search online to find out whats new in KK because everything looks and behaves exactly the same. Relax people and enjoy your phone, you'll forget about KK in one hour after you have it installed.
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I would say chill out man still galaxy s4 is not updated in India, and ROM on g2 is much much better so wait till the end of March.
We all will get KK love.
"just my 2 cents"
Typing this on my KK updated LG G2 ... its really not that different haha
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I for one wouldn't want the KitKat update till the horrible "crackling/hissing in earphone" bug is fixed. I am fine with stock 4.2.2 and the best part is I can flash Philz touch recovery and install Mahdi's competent 4.4.2 rom.
There are posts like this in almost every device forum during new android version rollouts. LG has released Kitkat ahead of its original schedule, your carrier is just dragging its feet.
I have an international unlocked G2 and KitKat upgrade is available as an OTA download or via LG PC Suite, so... your argument is invalid.
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Lg is dragging its feet on getting KITKAT out to the owners of simfree International versions of the LG G2...it seems all to familiar to owners of earlier promising LG handsets. KitKat does exist or our phones....so why do we not have it?
LG has THE WORST reputation for updates and it is proving that this reputation is deserved. I really do not understand why a company that is leading edge in all areas of Android development does not seem to understand that late deployment of updates HARMS its reputation and loose sales!
The KitKat firmware is there, put it on the servers!!!!!
People choose to trust LG by buying the phone simfree, so reward us with the quickest updates!
This Phone has done much to restore faith in LG and this dilly dallying is damaging the image turn around the G2 allowed.
What do other readers think? Is LG again reverting to type and deliberately avoiding updating Phones? LG works so closely with Google at the moment that there really is no excuse for being so late....Q1 is rapidly ending and they NEED to get this sorted TODAY!
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Sorry to burst your bubble but LG already released all the Kitkat sources, it's now up to your provider or regional office. So if you want to file a complaint which it seems to be the UK region device, maybe you should go ***** at LG UK for being incompetent.
LG is a huge company, in overall comparison their phone divisions are very small. Someone at LG has obviously taken notice that they have a lot of potential and have been working extremely hard at transforming the LG brand of phones into something which rivals the current market giants. If you said a year ago that LG would be updating phones and would have the best phones on the market(G2/G Pro 2) everyone would laugh at you.
LG is going through a lot of expansion and maturing, you honestly can't expect for them to be on HTC/Samsung/Moto/Sony tier as up until 6 months ago the only decent phone they ever really made and supported was the Nexus 4 which is only the former. Give them another year, the G3 and another reiteration of flagship phones and they could really be on par. However until then there's still going to be plenty of teething issues since they've just finally entered the big boys market.
Sorry what? *Yawn*
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Sorry to burst your bubble but LG already released all the Kitkat sources, it's now up to your provider or regional office. So if you want to file a complaint which it seems to be the UK region device, maybe you should go ***** at LG UK for being incompetent.
LG is a huge company, in overall comparison their phone divisions are very small. Someone at LG has obviously taken notice that they have a lot of potential and have been working extremely hard at transforming the LG brand of phones into something which rivals the current market giants. If you said a year ago that LG would be updating phones and would have the best phones on the market(G2/G Pro 2) everyone would laugh at you.
LG is going through a lot of expansion and maturing, you honestly can't expect for them to be on HTC/Samsung/Moto/Sony tier as up until 6 months ago the only decent phone they ever really made and supported was the Nexus 4 which is only the former. Give them another year, the G3 and another reiteration of flagship phones and they could really be on par. However until then there's still going to be plenty of teething issues since they've just finally entered the big boys market.
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ALL very good points i will consider thinking before complaining next time!
I completely agree with you and I find the answer "KK is really the same as JB" really stupid, first of all it's not true, there are useful things introduced with KK and above all LG needs to fix a lot of bugs on this phone, so every update is welcome. Then the first reason I'm angry at LG is that the Korean version of the G2 got KK on december, and except little differences like the micro SD expansion card it's the same phone as in the rest of the world. And so LG needed 4 months to adapt it to the international version? Really? A big company like LG needs 4 months adapt a update for an identical phone? And then when the release finally arrives it's like this, someone a month earlier, someone like me (32 GB European version) still not, without any reason. After a Nexus One and a Nexus 4 I gave a chance to LG, but I think it'll be the last and only time
Huawei informed us last year that they'll be releasing Lollipop in the second quarter of 2015. 5 months and 3 days have already passed and if wasn't for a glimpse they provided some months ago, I would have found it difficult that our HAM2 will ever be updated.
I received my 1+1 about a month ago and tried Lollipop on it. I am not particularly impressed by Lollipop. I had to reinstall kitkat. Lollipop is over-simplified and has lots of white.
Clearly, Huawei is slow at deploying Lollipop. That is true. It sounds like you really don't care though. You seem to prefer KitKat. Not sure why you started this thread.
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Clearly, Huawei is slow at deploying Lollipop. That is true. It sounds like you really don't care though. You seem to prefer KitKat. Not sure why you started this thread.
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Huawei had promised to release Kitkat. They retracted. Then they promised Lollipop. Even though I'm not a Lollipop fan, it provides the option of having the latest android OS on your phone. So, there's no harm in that.
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Huawei had promised to release Kitkat. They retracted. Then they promised Lollipop. Even though I'm not a Lollipop fan, it provides the option of having the latest android OS on your phone. So, there's no harm in that.
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I got ya. I agree. I am still hopeful they release Lollipop soon. They aren't the best at this kind of stuff though. Their track record is fairly poor related to supporting existing devices. I think they are trying to be better, though. Time will tell.
Android L is meant to be released on the Asian Mate 2's on July 2nd. I think it is unlikely that it will be released for the US version before this, but if it doesn't come out for you guys on the 2nd July, I would contact Huawei and moan like Hell. Unfortunately I have seen NOTHING about a release date for the MT2-L03.
I asked them on Instagram and got the usual "Thank you, we don't know anything, we'll tell you something when nothing does everything." kind of comment.
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Android L is meant to be released on the Asian Mate 2's on July 2nd. I think it is unlikely that it will be released for the US version before this, but if it doesn't come out for you guys on the 2nd July, I would contact Huawei and moan like Hell. Unfortunately I have seen NOTHING about a release date for the MT2-L03.
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The Asian HAM2 is a completely different phone internally, there is no reason to believe the development paths or release schedules would be in any way similar for both devices.
After over half a year of vague promises (and a worthless 'beta program' website) from Huawei USA I wouldn't expect an upgrade to Lollipop for the MT2-L03 - I honestly think they were just stringing everyone along and trying to quieten the uproar among HAM2 users that was happening at the time. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I bet I'm not.
In the meantime I'm still trucking along on my HAM2, but I am looking at possible replacements. Most notably the new Alcatel Idol 3 looks really really impressive for the price.
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The Asian HAM2 is a completely different phone internally, there is no reason to believe the development paths or release schedules would be in any way similar for both devices.
After over half a year of vague promises (and a worthless 'beta program' website) from Huawei USA I wouldn't expect an upgrade to Lollipop for the MT2-L03 - I honestly think they were just stringing everyone along and trying to quieten the uproar among HAM2 users that was happening at the time. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I bet I'm not.
In the meantime I'm still trucking along on my HAM2, but I am looking at possible replacements. Most notably the new Alcatel Idol 3 looks really really impressive for the price.
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Yes, thanks. I'm well aware that they have different hardware.
I said to moan as US customers were told an update would be released in the first quarter of the year..... That hasn't happened.
I'll get flamed again, but even if they did release an update, it would be hard for me to upgrade unless some feature of software took advantage of the update. 4.3 WORKS. Turn it on and use it, don't have to reboot it. Yes, if there are security bugs, that's one thing, but if your device works as delivered, I'm more of a leave it alone, new doesn't always mean better, just new type of person.
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I'll get flamed again, but even if they did release an update, it would be hard for me to upgrade unless some feature of software took advantage of the update. 4.3 WORKS. Turn it on and use it, don't have to reboot it. Yes, if there are security bugs, that's one thing, but if your device works as delivered, I'm more of a leave it alone, new doesn't always mean better, just new type of person.
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Man, the main theme of all your posts is "4.3 is GREAT". In fact, all your posts contain the same information in different wording. We have UNDERSTOOD your preference. I don't understand why you keep repeating it. Its a little bit tactless to be repeating the same post in every thread.
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Man, the main theme of all your posts is "4.3 is GREAT". In fact, all your posts contain the same information in different wording. We have UNDERSTOOD your preference. I don't understand why you keep repeating it. Its a little bit tactless to be repeating the same post in every thread.
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He said he'd get flamed. At least he wasn't disappointed.
There isn't a ton of activity in this forum so I think we can tolerate multiple posts from p51d007.
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He said he'd get flamed. At least he wasn't disappointed.
There isn't a ton of activity in this forum so I think we can tolerate multiple posts from p51d007.
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Flame away...I was a volunteer 911 operator for over a dozen years...been flamed by the best of em. :good:
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Flame away...I was a volunteer 911 operator for over a dozen years...been flamed by the best of em. :good:
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I've got the latest and greatest lollipop on my nexus 7, I've also got a rooted samsung s3 that has a custom ROM on it. But I must say this phone
the mate 2 is by far my favorite, the battery life is unreal, love the big bright screen. It may not be the latest and greatest but for me it is a great phone.
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I've got the latest and greatest lollipop on my nexus 7, I've also got a rooted samsung s3 that has a custom ROM on it. But I must say this phone
the mate 2 is by far my favorite, the battery life is unreal, love the big bright screen. It may not be the latest and greatest but for me it is a great phone.
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I actually bought the 1+1 after reading rave reviews about it almost everywhere. I initially intended to keep the 1+1 and give my dad my HAM2. For some reason, the mate 2 was too good to give up. It has everything I want in a phone; large screen, very long battery life, fast, smooth transitions and most importantly it doesn't get hot like a stove. Anyway, at the end, I kept the HAM2 and gave my dad the 1+1. Seriously, I gave up the 1+1 with all its laudatory specs for the HAM2 and I have no regrets.
This phone's screen is too freaking big for me. I already have a tablet, don't need another one thanks. Unfortunately I can't afford to upgrade it right now so I'm stuck with it. And now Xposed broke so now I'm stuck with the ugly grey nav bar and enormous DPI. (EDIT: Nvm, I fixed that.) Seriously, why did Huawei artificially raise the DPI, the native 240 looks so much better than the stock 320, makes everything look much smaller and crisper and gives you more real estate.
I just want Lollipop. Then I'll see if it's worth keeping this phone or if I should make upgrading a priority.
At least the battery life is nice, but that's about all I can say is going for this phone, and I'm willing to bet in part that's because of the lower res (720p) screen.
I always been a big fun of HTC, but when I dropped my Samsung, I was shopping for the phone with good battery life. U11 came out at the same time but was nothing excited about it and I looked at LG G6. No doubt, it was a great looking phone, probably the best looking no-bezel phone at the time of it’s release. Awesome battery life and only $599
So… I got one from HK. It came with all toys including large memory 64Gb of RAM and Quad DAC audio processing. But no wireless charging. Its for US market only. Smart people at LG probably thought it’s a great idea to give SEA customers more RAM because their songs are longer. Someone must’ve spent lot’s of money on this research. US model came with no Quad DAC…
So now one year later, my phone sitting with September 2017 security update. Indian model had March update already. Again, LG must think there is a reason to secure this particular region more than HK. Who will hack anything in HK one may ask?
Just before releasing LG7, LG creates software update center to ensure updates and updates Korean version just before LG7 is released with another gimmick called ThinQ. And yes, it’s not even Oreo 8.1
So will you upgrade to G7, which cost almost $1000, has nothing to offer other than AI (which was promised to be on 8.0 update for G6, but isn’t) Will you buy any of LG phones? You guess my answer…
I love my G6, I can run it almost 2 days, wide lens camera is awesome, but I do not have phone which manufacture will obsolete in less than 1 year.
Luckily HTC U12 will be out at the end of the month, I can wait.
I can wait for OnePlus 6 as well..
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I can wait for OnePlus 6 as well..
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+1
Or you can just wait another couple of monts and get the oreo update...
And when you buy the phone you know it have no wireless charger, or not?
I don't know why people use xda only for complaining, never a solution. And I don't speak about your particular situation, but in general. Some of mine last phone was oneplus 3t and nexus 6, and people complain about update also on them. Thing like 'OMG yesterday pixel 2 got this and we not, why, cry...' or 'never another oneplus because....' all the time.
I normally choose a phone because I like it, if I don't I buy something else.
If I buy a thing and after some time I write on the forums that this thing is horrible, I think I will appear dumb...
Nothing personal, just my two cents.
No Way I do the same mistake and buy an LG phone again! Very bad supporr.
This company does not respect their costumers
Nah I'm getting a Pixel or OnePlus in a few years. LG is getting bad. I don't like the software skin either.
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Or you can just wait another couple of monts and get the oreo update...
And when you buy the phone you know it have no wireless charger, or not?
I don't know why people use xda only for complaining, never a solution. And I don't speak about your particular situation, but in general. Some of mine last phone was oneplus 3t and nexus 6, and people complain about update also on them. Thing like 'OMG yesterday pixel 2 got this and we not, why, cry...' or 'never another oneplus because....' all the time.
I normally choose a phone because I like it, if I don't I buy something else.
If I buy a thing and after some time I write on the forums that this thing is horrible, I think I will appear dumb...
Nothing personal, just my two cents.
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+1 but you just got ignored, they're still complaining
Maybe they ignored because it is a fanboy comment that is saying "oh who cares, who needs support anyway?"
This is pathetic, even the s7 has oreo now :laugh:
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Or you can just wait another couple of monts and get the oreo update...
And when you buy the phone you know it have no wireless charger, or not?
I don't know why people use xda only for complaining, never a solution. And I don't speak about your particular situation, but in general. Some of mine last phone was oneplus 3t and nexus 6, and people complain about update also on them. Thing like 'OMG yesterday pixel 2 got this and we not, why, cry...' or 'never another oneplus because....' all the time.
I normally choose a phone because I like it, if I don't I buy something else.
If I buy a thing and after some time I write on the forums that this thing is horrible, I think I will appear dumb...
Nothing personal, just my two cents.
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Fact is that G5 received more updates (and it's actually more up to date here in Europe) than G6 in the same window of time, this is not a predictable thing, moreover when G5 was one of the first devices to receive Nougat.
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Fact is that G5 received more updates (and it's actually more up to date here in Europe) than G6 in the same window of time, this is not a predictable thing, moreover when G5 was one of the first devices to receive Nougat.
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You are right, that is a big problem, we can cry together until LG do something.
In your list of reasons why you bought the phone was there any though given to the update frequency? Yes, because lg said that the device was to get updates on par with the other devices released at the time. Google is getting ready to drop Android P and we're still on 7 that in itself is reason enough to be disappointed in lg. I think I'm still on the Dec patch. They can't even get those to us with some reliability. Then there's the locked versions where you can't root the thing and do it yourself if nothing else.
Oreo is here also for h873, is coming for everyone, maybe all this kids tears was listened?
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Oreo is here also for h873, is coming for everyone, maybe all this kids tears was listened?
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Wait, they will start again with android P... :laugh:
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Wait, they will start again with android P... :laugh:
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Yeah, probably the day after oreo..:angel: