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I bought an xperia S as soon as it was released. I was so excited with it, thought it was the best, design was perfect for me, software was smooth and stable, camera was outstanding, capacitive touch buttons were a little bit annoying but i managed to handle them in such a way, the overall performance was great for me. The only thing that made me ditch this phone was the yellow tint display issue at the bottom. It was like a nightmare for me, all the phones i had before never had this awful flaw!
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/21/some-xperia-s-users-complaining-of-yellow-tint-display-issue/
A friend of mine asked me about the Acro S, i didn't know what to tell him, although i saw an improvement of the xperia S in many ways, the power button site, the SD card, the capacitive buttons and bezel area, but the display problem kept haunting me!!
For those who actually bought the device; what about the yellow tint display problem, is it there, or did they fix this issue with their new flagship phone???
Yellow tint issue with Acro S? I thought they fixed it before even released this phone?
Saw the yellow tint on many video reviews too. Quite surprised given that I just got a new XS (W32) and the screen doesnt have this issue. But the cololur reproduction is pretty lousy TBH. It's very bright though.
As I remember, there is such problem on the phones manufactured until 12 week of 2012 year. So, these are the xperia s and xperia acro hd, maybe some demonstration acro s.
The problem was discussed on this forum. You can use the search and you should get the answers to your questions
My Xperia S that i bought on the release date (about 6 month ago) was horrible, the yellow tint problem got worse and worse...
But my Acros S that i got 4 weeks ago is absolutely perfect, no sign of yellow tint problem whatsoever.
So I'm at my sixth S9+ right now... yes, the sixth. I have never believed that such a small device can drive me so crazy. The funny thing is that I haven't seen anyone talking about the issues that I have been facing. So I might be crazy after all.
Ever since the original Samsung Galaxy S I9000 released I've been using Samsung phones with AMOLED screens. The I9000 was followed by an S4. After that I bought myself an S7 Edge. Up to this point I've always been super happy with my devices. Most of all I enjoyed the displays. I swore on AMOLED and would never look back and use an IPS.
AMOLED has always had two donwsides for me, though - low brigthness and warmer whites compared to an IPS. Over the years I learned to live with both of those. If I put my S7 Edge next to an IPS screen I'd immediately notice the warmer whites and the dimmer display but if there was nothing to compare it to my eyes callibrated and the whites and the brigthness were perfect - at least to my own perception.
So I saw those S9+ advertisements. They were advertising a brighter screen than the S8 which was already brighter than my S7 Edge (actually turned out that the S9+ in manual mode is dimmer than not only the S8 and the S7 Edge but even the S4 but that's a different topic). The whites on this phone also appeared to be much more cooler and IPS-like compared to my S7 Edge. This combined with the camera, the taller screen, virtual buttons and all the other cool features was an instant sell for me. I preordered on day one.
First phone: I had purchased it directly from my carrier. Had to resign my contract for another 24 months with them but when I finally got the phone it felt like it was totally worth it. Until I finally set it up and actually placed it horizontally on the bed - I could see nothing. The viewing angles were worse than they were on my TN panel monitor years ago. Everything was blue. I quickly googled it and learned it was called "blue shift" and was really common with the initial batches of the Pixel 2 XL. Well... in comparison to all those Pixel phones I saw on various photos and videos - mine was worse than all of them. I quickly snapped some photos of the display and returned to the store. It was a tough process because my carrier doesn't usually accept returns so I had to contact Samsung for help directly. They eventually sent me a new one.
Second phone : Checked it in the store to see how it looked at an angle and it shifted only ever so slightly blue. Compared it to the various demo devices there and realized that was actually the norm. It didn't bother me at all this time so I accepted it. When I got away from the bright lights in the store and sat on my bed late in the evening with no lamps on I noticed that the pure whites I had bought this phone for are now warmer than on my old S7 Edge - everything appeared yellowish. My eyes started to get used to the yellow tint and I started to finally perceive the whites as proper whites until I realized that every single small tilt of the device (as small as 10-20 degrees) resulted in a red shift before the slight blue one. For some weird reason, this red hue decalibrated my eyes and when I returned the device to its original position I saw the whites yellowish all over again. And due to it happening at such small angles it basically happened every 10 seconds or so, especially when using the phone with one hand. It was absolutely unbearable and I went back to the store and literally begged them to give me my first device back. Apparently this was not posssible and they also refused to aknowledge this as an issue eligible for a return. Samsung, on the other hand, refused to cooperate a second time. I was forced to sell it, fortunately at not that big of a loss.
Third phone: Now this one was bought from an online retailer so I could have a 14-day return window if I got a screen like my last one. The phone finally arrived and the screen was perfect - no yellow tint, no red shift, no extreme blue shift. Joke's on me, though - they had sent me the wrong phone - I had ordered the dual sim variant and they mistakenly sent me a single sim one. So I sent it back.
Fourth phone: Got my next one - this time a proper DUOS. Funny thing, though - it was just like my second one - the one I sold. Whites were a bit less yellow this time but the constant red shifts at really small angles totally decalibrated my eyes and I couldn't perceive white as actual white for 5 seconds straight. That drove me nuts. I made use of the 14-day return period and asked them to send me another one.
Fifth phone: Oh god, this phone was perfect. Even better than the third one. Perfect whites, no stupid red shift, blue shift was at extreme angles only and even then it was very light - I've never been more satisfied with a display. I used it for 4 days straight - it was a pleasure, really. Until I noticed that there was a dead pixel right in the middle of the damn screen. Only one... out of millions. But once I saw it I could literally not unsee it... ever. I sent it back, they acknowledged the defect, and because it was brand new they sent me yet another one.
Sixth phone: So my current phone, the sixth one, is basically like the fourth and the second ones. I'm now literally where I started. After about $50 lost from the sale of my second phone, after another $50 spent on transport fees and after 2 months without a phone, I got literally the same goddamn phone. Maybe it's not as yellow as the second one but the goddamn red shift makes it appear yellow to me each and every single time I tilt the device ever so slightly. And by the time I finally start getting accustomed to the white colour temperature I accidentally tilt it again.
As I was browsing around the forums yesterday to find out whether someone else experienced similar issues I bumped into the Black Crush thread and when I checked for it it turns out I have it too and it makes not only whites unbearable to look at but apparently different shades of black next to each other as well. After going through so many phones I'm not even sure whether any of them had it as well or it's just that one. In the meantime, while checking for Black Crush in a dark room I noticed that my light from the screen is reflecting in the curved glass and leaking from all sides and the phone basically looks like a Christmas tree in a dark environment. I'm not sure whether any of the previous devices exhibited that either. My S7 Edge aso had a curved screen, even more so, and was definitely not like that. After reading about this, however, it turns out that 80% of the people have it as well. To be honest, the light leak and the black crush are bothering me not nearly as much as the yellow tint and the red shift.
Yes, I'm using Adaptive Mode and no, I'm not using Blue Light filter, nor do I use a 3rd party app that's triggering the in-built in Android Night Light filter. Tweaking with the software calibration is also out of the question because 80% of my phone usage is actually watching YouTube and I can't do it without the Video Enhancer on. And the Video Enhancer overrides all display settings turning the whites into their facotry-callibrated variant.
If anyone is wondering why the hell did I wrote this huge wall of text. Well... there are two reasons. First and foremost, I just wanted to complain about Samsung's absolutely ridiculous QA this year - displays on near $1000 phones shouldn't have such issues nor should they vary as much. Second of all, I wanted to just get this out of my system as I'm not sure what to do anymore. I might be able to get the retailer to return my money after all as I think I might still have another 14 days to do that after the last device but the problem is that, as I was really sick of dealing with this BS and bothering them with it, when the device arrived I told them over the phone that this time it was perfect and everything was fine. Now I've been using it for almost a week, I've taken all of the wraps off and they've reissued all the documents already. I'd hate to be the douche that returns yet another phone, even after already confirming that it's perfect. And finally, I wanted to ask if any of you has observed at least one of those issues or I'm just bat**** crazy. Thank you for reading!
I dunno.. have you tried returning the phone and getting a replacement?
I just think you're super picky and I'm not. I bought the phone and it's nicer quality than my LG V20. Done.
I initially didn't like the curved glass and the rounded corners. But that nothing to do with the display quality.
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So I'm at my sixth S9+ right now... yes, the sixth. I have never believed that such a small device can drive me so crazy. The funny thing is that I haven't seen anyone talking about the issues that I have been facing. So I might be crazy after all.
Ever since the original Samsung Galaxy S I9000 released I've been using Samsung phones with AMOLED screens. The I9000 was followed by an S4. After that I bought myself an S7 Edge. Up to this point I've always been super happy with my devices. Most of all I enjoyed the displays. I swore on AMOLED and would never look back and use an IPS.
AMOLED has always had two donwsides for me, though - low brigthness and warmer whites compared to an IPS. Over the years I learned to live with both of those. If I put my S7 Edge next to an IPS screen I'd immediately notice the warmer whites and the dimmer display but if there was nothing to compare it to my eyes callibrated and the whites and the brigthness were perfect - at least to my own perception.
So I saw those S9+ advertisements. They were advertising a brighter screen than the S8 which was already brighter than my S7 Edge (actually turned out that the S9+ in manual mode is dimmer than not only the S8 and the S7 Edge but even the S4 but that's a different topic). The whites on this phone also appeared to be much more cooler and IPS-like compared to my S7 Edge. This combined with the camera, the taller screen, virtual buttons and all the other cool features was an instant sell for me. I preordered on day one.
First phone: I had purchased it directly from my carrier. Had to resign my contract for another 24 months with them but when I finally got the phone it felt like it was totally worth it. Until I finally set it up and actually placed it horizontally on the bed - I could see nothing. The viewing angles were worse than they were on my TN panel monitor years ago. Everything was blue. I quickly googled it and learned it was called "blue shift" and was really common with the initial batches of the Pixel 2 XL. Well... in comparison to all those Pixel phones I saw on various photos and videos - mine was worse than all of them. I quickly snapped some photos of the display and returned to the store. It was a tough process because my carrier doesn't usually accept returns so I had to contact Samsung for help directly. They eventually sent me a new one.
Second phone : Checked it in the store to see how it looked at an angle and it shifted only ever so slightly blue. Compared it to the various demo devices there and realized that was actually the norm. It didn't bother me at all this time so I accepted it. When I got away from the bright lights in the store and sat on my bed late in the evening with no lamps on I noticed that the pure whites I had bought this phone for are now warmer than on my old S7 Edge - everything appeared yellowish. My eyes started to get used to the yellow tint and I started to finally perceive the whites as proper whites until I realized that every single small tilt of the device (as small as 10-20 degrees) resulted in a red shift before the slight blue one. For some weird reason, this red hue decalibrated my eyes and when I returned the device to its original position I saw the whites yellowish all over again. And due to it happening at such small angles it basically happened every 10 seconds or so, especially when using the phone with one hand. It was absolutely unbearable and I went back to the store and literally begged them to give me my first device back. Apparently this was not posssible and they also refused to aknowledge this as an issue eligible for a return. Samsung, on the other hand, refused to cooperate a second time. I was forced to sell it, fortunately at not that big of a loss.
Third phone: Now this one was bought from an online retailer so I could have a 14-day return window if I got a screen like my last one. The phone finally arrived and the screen was perfect - no yellow tint, no red shift, no extreme blue shift. Joke's on me, though - they had sent me the wrong phone - I had ordered the dual sim variant and they mistakenly sent me a single sim one. So I sent it back.
Fourth phone: Got my next one - this time a proper DUOS. Funny thing, though - it was just like my second one - the one I sold. Whites were a bit less yellow this time but the constant red shifts at really small angles totally decalibrated my eyes and I couldn't perceive white as actual white for 5 seconds straight. That drove me nuts. I made use of the 14-day return period and asked them to send me another one.
Fifth phone: Oh god, this phone was perfect. Even better than the third one. Perfect whites, no stupid red shift, blue shift was at extreme angles only and even then it was very light - I've never been more satisfied with a display. I used it for 4 days straight - it was a pleasure, really. Until I noticed that there was a dead pixel right in the middle of the damn screen. Only one... out of millions. But once I saw it I could literally not unsee it... ever. I sent it back, they acknowledged the defect, and because it was brand new they sent me yet another one.
Sixth phone: So my current phone, the sixth one, is basically like the fourth and the second ones. I'm now literally where I started. After about $50 lost from the sale of my second phone, after another $50 spent on transport fees and after 2 months without a phone, I got literally the same goddamn phone. Maybe it's not as yellow as the second one but the goddamn red shift makes it appear yellow to me each and every single time I tilt the device ever so slightly. And by the time I finally start getting accustomed to the white colour temperature I accidentally tilt it again.
As I was browsing around the forums yesterday to find out whether someone else experienced similar issues I bumped into the Black Crush thread and when I checked for it it turns out I have it too and it makes not only whites unbearable to look at but apparently different shades of black next to each other as well. After going through so many phones I'm not even sure whether any of them had it as well or it's just that one. In the meantime, while checking for Black Crush in a dark room I noticed that my light from the screen is reflecting in the curved glass and leaking from all sides and the phone basically looks like a Christmas tree in a dark environment. I'm not sure whether any of the previous devices exhibited that either. My S7 Edge aso had a curved screen, even more so, and was definitely not like that. After reading about this, however, it turns out that 80% of the people have it as well. To be honest, the light leak and the black crush are bothering me not nearly as much as the yellow tint and the red shift.
Yes, I'm using Adaptive Mode and no, I'm not using Blue Light filter, nor do I use a 3rd party app that's triggering the in-built in Android Night Light filter. Tweaking with the software calibration is also out of the question because 80% of my phone usage is actually watching YouTube and I can't do it without the Video Enhancer on. And the Video Enhancer overrides all display settings turning the whites into their facotry-callibrated variant.
If anyone is wondering why the hell did I wrote this huge wall of text. Well... there are two reasons. First and foremost, I just wanted to complain about Samsung's absolutely ridiculous QA this year - displays on near $1000 phones shouldn't have such issues nor should they vary as much. Second of all, I wanted to just get this out of my system as I'm not sure what to do anymore. I might be able to get the retailer to return my money after all as I think I might still have another 14 days to do that after the last device but the problem is that, as I was really sick of dealing with this BS and bothering them with it, when the device arrived I told them over the phone that this time it was perfect and everything was fine. Now I've been using it for almost a week, I've taken all of the wraps off and they've reissued all the documents already. I'd hate to be the douche that returns yet another phone, even after already confirming that it's perfect. And finally, I wanted to ask if any of you has observed at least one of those issues or I'm just bat**** crazy. Thank you for reading!
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i am on same boat with you so i fully understand your upset. I am having here S8+ plus running nougat and S9+ running Oreo. When I watching youtube and each devices and video enhancer kicks in, the white point on S8+ much better than S9+ (so yellow). Samsung did change white value of video enhancer on Oreo make the screen yellowish. Both device are in adaptive mode with red and green at its minimum. Comparing the white point when doing web browsing, I have to say they are all the same kind of screen (same brightness nits at manual max, not much pure white like iphone screen). I hate how samsung did lied to me about 20% brighter screen on s9+. so ****ing tricky advertisement
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I just think you're super picky and I'm not. I bought the phone and it's nicer quality than my LG V20. Done.
I initially didn't like the curved glass and the rounded corners. But that nothing to do with the display quality.
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I also have the LG V20 and I have to say V20 has better screen color and brightness even though its resolution and sharpness is not good at S9+
so did you ever manage to get it fixed? did you go for the 7th device?
Hello
I've had my XZ1 since release, and after a few months I got light bleed on my screen. I went to the store and delivered it for repair. A few weeks later I got it back with a new screen. Now, about two months later, I got light bleed again on the exact same spots.
Is this a common issue with the XZ1, or Sony devices in general?
Do you have it at the top of the screen? Like on the photo? It is visible just from this angle or always?
I have a chance to buy basically new XZ1 for around 270 dollars but this is the photo of it. Do you think I should buy it or not?
Evzzza said:
Do you have it at the top of the screen? Like on the photo? It is visible just from this angle or always?
I have a chance to buy basically new XZ1 for around 270 dollars but this is the photo of it. Do you think I should buy it or not?
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mine has it, too. most xz1 has it, so it is not problem
hve this too
i also have this bleeding at the top of the screen in my first xz1 unit, which i bought 2018.10.30 ( made in China ). it is most visible from angles. if i look at the screen directly i almost don't see this bleeding. I have another XZ1 unit, which is made in Thailand and this xz1 does not bleeding screen at all ( perfect at all angles ). So i don't know , what to do. is it good idea to bring it to service tech to replace screen???
I know this is not the place to discuss general issues with the phone but I signed up as these forums have the most and best discussions on the issues. I am on my 3rd Mate 20 Pro as the first two LG ones had the screen bleed issue.
Now I have a BOE screen but it looks absolute trash. It lacks brightness and contrast and has a pink tint towards the top and a green tint at the bottom when you view white pages. Also when I watch videos I get awful colour banding etc on gradients. Also I get odd tints etc whenever I look at the phone from almost any angle. I am so so so disappointed.
I'm just curious if anyone has a BOE screen that is as good as the original LG ones (minus screen bleed obviously) as I don't want to send this back if I'm going to get the same crappy screen back. I'm so frustrated and will never buy a Huawei product again.
I have a BOE Seems really great, nice vibrant colours, whites and Blacks are really good. Only issue I have is if you turn off the adaptive brightness the powergenie dims most Google and Facebook apps. But the last few days I have left the adaptive brightness on auto and it seems to not dim as much. I tend to push the brightness up a little bit though.
Something I have noticed, not related to the screen, is I occasionally hear a little click in the sound, I'm not sure what that is. Unless big brother is activating my microphone. ?
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I must admit, I do notice the colour issue mostly in Chrome but it doesn't seem to be exclusive to it. Plus the colour banding issue is really bad on mine. For instance, at 1:28 on this video (https:// youtu.be/tO01J-M3g0U) the sky has awful banding and also an actual flickering. I guess I have a bad display. I just wonder if they will see it or just send it back. It's definetly there and anyone used to good screens would see it however my aging parents said there was nothing wrong with it so it isn't obvious to anyone not used to an OLED screen and I imagine they could easily say they see no issues. Ahhhh.
No issues with my BOE screen. If you secretly swapped it with a (good) LG I wouldn't notice.
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BOE is the best much much better then LG super
boe screens are better imo, this lottery with LG is awful
Cheers guys. I must just have a defect BOE. It definitely doesn't look right at all.
Nem9h88 said:
Cheers guys. I must just have a defect BOE. It definitely doesn't look right at all.
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That was my BOE mate 20 pro. Build date 18B05.
djBarren said:
That was my BOE mate 20 pro. Build date 18B05.
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Ooooooh interestingly that is exactly what mine looks like but reversed and guess what... Same build number. Did you get yours replaced with Huawei or a retailer?
Got my BOE 18B23, looks great - you might have a faulty one.
Looks like a faulty BOE screen...I examined mine obsessively within my 2 weeks return period and found no issues. It MIGHT be a bit less bright that LG, but I am comparing it with Youtube videos and Interweb pics, so it's a false call.
Happy so far.
Definitely looks like you have a defective BOE display. I got mine today (18B23) and it's great, at least compared to my old V30 it's much better.
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Ooooooh interestingly that is exactly what mine looks like but reversed and guess what... Same build number. Did you get yours replaced with Huawei or a retailer?
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I received a refund after an email to the Carphone Warehouse CEO. As the IMEI I had was from Huawei not CPW. The CPW have been absolutely fantastic to me.
I went yesterday hell bent on a pixel 3xl. But I was drawn toward the Mate 20 Pro. After much discussion with the manager I ended up walking out with a Mate 20 Pro, 18B26 and it absolutely perfect. It's what the phone should have been from the get go. Uniform, responsive, fast fingerprint scanner, sharp and vibrant.
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I received a refund after an email to the Carphone Warehouse CEO. As the IMEI I had was from Huawei not CPW. The CPW have been absolutely fantastic to me.
I went yesterday hell bent on a pixel 3xl. But I was drawn toward the Mate 20 Pro. After much discussion with the manager I ended up walking out with a Mate 20 Pro, 18B26 and it absolutely perfect. It's what the phone should have been from the get go. Uniform, responsive, fast fingerprint scanner, sharp and vibrant.
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Give me this ceo email address, please. Having problems with cpw
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Give me this ceo email address, please. Having problems with cpw
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I'll DM it to you.
Nem9h88 said:
I know this is not the place to discuss general issues with the phone but I signed up as these forums have the most and best discussions on the issues. I am on my 3rd Mate 20 Pro as the first two LG ones had the screen bleed issue.
Now I have a BOE screen but it looks absolute trash. It lacks brightness and contrast and has a pink tint towards the top and a green tint at the bottom when you view white pages. Also when I watch videos I get awful colour banding etc on gradients. Also I get odd tints etc whenever I look at the phone from almost any angle. I am so so so disappointed.
I'm just curious if anyone has a BOE screen that is as good as the original LG ones (minus screen bleed obviously) as I don't want to send this back if I'm going to get the same crappy screen back. I'm so frustrated and will never buy a Huawei product again.
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My BOE is perfect. Actually nicer than my Note 9 and Pixel 3. LG was no better.
Nem9h88 said:
I know this is not the place to discuss general issues with the phone but I signed up as these forums have the most and best discussions on the issues. I am on my 3rd Mate 20 Pro as the first two LG ones had the screen bleed issue.
Now I have a BOE screen but it looks absolute trash. It lacks brightness and contrast and has a pink tint towards the top and a green tint at the bottom when you view white pages. Also when I watch videos I get awful colour banding etc on gradients. Also I get odd tints etc whenever I look at the phone from almost any angle. I am so so so disappointed.
I'm just curious if anyone has a BOE screen that is as good as the original LG ones (minus screen bleed obviously) as I don't want to send this back if I'm going to get the same crappy screen back. I'm so frustrated and will never buy a Huawei product again.
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I have EXACTLY the same problem as you. This is also my 3rd Mate 20 Pro. First was LG, with the green glow issue, that was visible only in dark room with brightness set to minimum and grey background (I am still mad why I returned it, because it was better than BOE) . My second device had a BOE screen with very very bad screen uniformity at low brightness. And now my third Mate has also BOE screen with the same problem as yours. Lower half of the display has a green tint and the upper half has a pink tint. I dont mind if the screen has a tint, because that can be "repaired" by tweaking color temperature. But this is super annoying. When you scroll on sites with white background you can see how it goes from green to pink tint. Otherwise screen is great and therefore I also have a concern about the next device that I might get as a replacement, as this is clearly a lottery now. I am probably going to wait until like a month and then try to get a replacement (I hope they will admit something is wrong with the display) . It is not really affecting the day-to-day usage of the device, it is just my eyes and heart is hurting when looking at the display. Maybe I am just too picky, but I expect from the device which costs 1k€ to be worthy of its price in every department, especially display.
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I have EXACTLY the same problem as you. This is also my 3rd Mate 20 Pro. First was LG, with the green glow issue, that was visible only in dark room with brightness set to minimum and grey background (I am still mad why I returned it, because it was better than BOE) . My second device had a BOE screen with very very bad screen uniformity at low brightness. And now my third Mate has also BOE screen with the same problem as yours. Lower half of the display has a green tint and the upper half has a pink tint. I dont mind if the screen has a tint, because that can be "repaired" by tweaking color temperature. But this is super annoying. When you scroll on sites with white background you can see how it goes from green to pink tint. Otherwise screen is great and therefore I also have a concern about the next device that I might get as a replacement, as this is clearly a lottery now. I am probably going to wait until like a month and then try to get a replacement (I hope they will admit something is wrong with the display) . It is not really affecting the day-to-day usage of the device, it is just my eyes and heart is hurting when looking at the display. Maybe I am just too picky, but I expect from the device which costs 1k€ to be worthy of its price in every department, especially display.
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This complete echos my device and my sentiments about the whole thing. For the money this device should not have the issues. It is a fact. This is my first Huawei device and I'm almost certain it will now be my last.
I also don't know which device I would buy, instead of Mate 20 Pro. Once you get used to this IR facial recognition, fingerprint scanner becomes almost useless. It works in every conditions and it's sometimes even too fast. I've been using Mate 9 for the last 2 years and it was super fast from the first to the last day. I got used to the EMUI, gestures are awesome! Oh, and I must not forget about the wide angle lens, it's great. I was thinking about the Note 9, the best display, performance wise also very good (not on pair with Kirin 980 though), camera also very good, fingerprint scanner on the back with facial recognition that is significantly slower and on top of that it's still Samsung, which means that it will get very slow in just a year from buying it (it's also almost 100€ more in my country). Another alternative is OnePlus 6T, display is good, performance it's excellent, software is the best right now, the cameras are on pair with the Note 9, but it lacks wireless charging, IP rating, facial recognition depends only on camera (it doesn't work in the dark) and I can't get it from my carrier. Mate 20 Pro is also the King when it comes to the battery life! So from my point of view, there are no real alternatives to the Mate 20 Pro and I really don't know what to do. Part of me wants to get a replacement ASAP (I am scared of that also), but the other part wants to get something else, because this is going nowhere.
I think a lot of the XDA reports about the LG screens being defective were phony and were made to create mischief and discourage people from buying this phone.
When the gluegate reports started coming in on XDA easily 70% were from XDA accounts that were new and were opened specifically to report supposedly defective screens. How could anybody not have found that suspicious?
The supposed screen bleed issue is a joke. People were comparing the folded OLED on the Mate 20 Pro with Samsung phone screens that don't have folded OLED displays. Obviously the results are going to be different because they are not the same kind of displays. It is 100% normal to have bleed on the edges with a folded OLED display and it is also normal for the edges of the display to look lighter when doing the "uniformity test" that people were told proved the displays were defective.
If you go into the display settings it takes less than 10 seconds to make it appear that your screen has "gone hulk" and take a screenshot.
I have a UK Mate 20 Pro that was preordered before launch. It has an LG display from the initial batch that multiple XDA members claim were 100% defective. The display looks great and is not defective in any way.
A few weeks ago I purchased a 256GB global version and planned to upgrade. But that phone had a BOE display that was very inferior to the LG one so I ended up returning it. The BOE screen had washed out colors and was noticibly less bright than the LG display which is the reason people don't see screen bleed at the edges. Pixel response was also slower than the LG display.
A lot of people who participated in a "screen lottery" and kept returning M20P phones until they got one with a BOE display ultimately found that those displays had inferior color and brightness to the LG display.
I'm pretty certain there was nothing wrong with the phone you returned. Unfortunately I have seen 3 M20P phones with BOE displays and all 3 had washed out colors compared to the LG display.
Hi,
there is a rumor saying there will be no charger added inside the box of mark IV while the price will be higher at the same price.
Is sony kidding me?
I am avoiding it if there will be no charger...
If I will be selling mark III the person who will buy it will want to have charger too.
Price of mark 3 was already too high in comparison to what it offers, support it receives and software.
I expect mark IV to be cheaper.
There are devices of mark 3 power 50% - 70% cheaper.
Feels like the Mark III series is dumped before it's even working reasonably well. I wouldn't touch another Sony phone if this is how their product support goes.
The Mark III is new and I want a 3rd party OS already.
Indeed, sony software support or division in general is worst from every manufacturer. They do not spend a penny on a software once device is released.
Since they do not provide any cooling solution to cpu (laughable considering the price) and in case device turns to burn out the only thing they do is to reduce the clocks to throttle it and tat's it. Any invest at all they provide is in case some must have feature like unlocking is not working due to crappy cheap fingerprint scanner. These are the only cases they do anything with soft.
As said. This is unacceptable at this price.
And still they want to increase it for the same + remove charger?
decomposed said:
Hi,
there is a rumor saying there will be no charger added inside the box of mark IV while the price will be higher at the same price.
Is sony kidding me?
I am avoiding it if there will be no charger...
If I will be selling mark III the person who will buy it will want to have charger too.
Price of mark 3 was already too high in comparison to what it offers, support it receives and software.
I expect mark IV to be cheaper.
There are devices of mark 3 power 50% - 70% cheaper.
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1 III is one of a kind. No other android phone is on the same page with it in terms of performance.
Stop crying like babies. There'll be charger in the box (45w). And do not forget that it'll pack Sony's best 40 and 50mp cameras on the back with the latest 8 gen 1 + proc. and so on . And the quality worths a bit of extra for me. My xz premium and z3 still work without any errors, freezes or anything while my friends' other ios and android phones don't work right anymore, drain their batteries, random restarts and freezes etc etc..
All my old lcd xperias had problems with yellowish tint over time. That was because of the glue used.
For sony mounting new cameras does not make sense. Result is still the same: mediocre. Apple, shamesung , pixels or huawei are always taking better shots, creating better videos. Mark 3 does not even have night mode and you cannot record 4k 60fps videos in main camera. Only in crappy cinema mode lol! And no 21:9 pics hence no sense of using such screen dimensions other than cutting the costs. So called camera phone and it doesn't have dedicated album app since they removed sony album app and replaced it with stock google crap. Again to cut the costs.
Besides they only advertise camera camera camera, seems they do not have anything else to market. I do not know anyone who still believes in their marketing camera bull. Since years they are claiming they now deliver best camera and what? Always far from competition... Apart from camera they are very weak in terms of software, I would say they almost abandoned providing new features, improving what is in phone or adding new functions or apps. They suffer in terms of soft a lot.
When it comes to charger they already removed it from 10 mark III...
decomposed said:
All my old lcd xperias had problems with yellowish tint over time. That was because of the glue used.
For sony mounting new cameras does not make sense. Result is still the same: mediocre. Apple, shamesung , pixels or huawei are always taking better shots, creating better videos. Mark 3 does not even have night mode and you cannot record 4k 60fps videos in main camera. Only in crappy cinema mode lol! And no 21:9 pics hence no sense of using such screen dimensions other than cutting the costs. So called camera phone and it doesn't have dedicated album app since they removed sony album app and replaced it with stock google crap. Again to cut the costs.
Besides they only advertise camera camera camera, seems they do not have anything else to market. I do not know anyone who still believes in their marketing camera bull. Since years they are claiming they now deliver best camera and what? Always far from competition... Apart from camera they are very weak in terms of software, I would say they almost abandoned providing new features, improving what is in phone or adding new functions or apps. They suffer in terms of soft a lot.
When it comes to charger they already removed it from 10 mark III...
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Not to mention nearly all of those manufacturers use Sony's stuff. Night mode is an unnatural mode, I don't even need it. Photographers tested it and said it really is the best camera phone, you just have to know what to do and how. That's terrible, you have to open the cinema pro for 4k 60fps -.-' I have Sony Album app btw. And let's put an end to this argue, if you don't like Sony then don't buy it and leave the forum I don't know what did you do to your phones, I've never had yellow tint on any of my Sony phones. My old Xperia Ion still works flawlessly too, but it's not mine anymore. It's my friend's second phone for his other sim card. Stepfather's Xperia Z has no problems at all.
Would like too see what would those other manufacturers do if Sony wouldn't sell them cameras anymore
decomposed said:
Hi,
there is a rumor saying there will be no charger added inside the box of mark IV while the price will be higher at the same price.
Is sony kidding me?
I am avoiding it if there will be no charger...
If I will be selling mark III the person who will buy it will want to have charger too.
Price of mark 3 was already too high in comparison to what it offers, support it receives and software.
I expect mark IV to be cheaper.
There are devices of mark 3 power 50% - 70% cheaper.
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No way that Xperia 1 IV that will be any cheaper. Quite opposite scenario is more likely - at least $1300 or even more. Sony never went cheap with their products.
LaceeWearsPrada said:
Not to mention nearly all of those manufacturers use Sony's stuff. Night mode is an unnatural mode, I don't even need it. Photographers tested it and said it really is the best camera phone, you just have to know what to do and how. That's terrible, you have to open the cinema pro for 4k 60fps -.-' I have Sony Album app btw. And let's put an end to this argue, if you don't like Sony then don't buy it and leave the forum I don't know what did you do to your phones, I've never had yellow tint on any of my Sony phones. My old Xperia Ion still works flawlessly too, but it's not mine anymore. It's my friend's second phone for his other sim card. Stepfather's Xperia Z has no problems at all.
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Don't tell me what should I do and what not. Go back to school. In past, during lcd tines many sony phones had problems, not only with common yellowish tint but also with fake waterproof, google it. Interestingly seems to appear also with oled displays. Just few examples:
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LaceeWearsPrada said:
Would like too see what would those other manufacturers do if Sony wouldn't sell them cameras anymore
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Buy it from other manufacturers? Like samsung?
Don't you have any imagination? Use your brain.
Besides it's not only about hardware, there are plenty of reviews and posts confirming aony takes worse pictures than other brands, especially in auto mode and dark conditions.
And yes, other brands using sony sensors stoll does way better than sony due to better software. And that's a fact confirmed by many specialists who compared camera samples.
decomposed said:
Buy it from other manufacturers? Like samsung?
Don't you have any imagination? Use your brain.
Besides it's not only about hardware, there are plenty of reviews and posts confirming aony takes worse pictures than other brands, especially in auto mode and dark conditions.
And yes, other brands using sony sensors stoll does way better than sony due to better software. And that's a fact confirmed by many specialists who compared camera samples.
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Lol why you aint buy another device then ? Taking photos with my 1 iii without flash in the night make good shots and the build quality of xperia is far more better then other brands 100%
Pandemic said:
Lol why you aint buy another device then ? Taking photos with my 1 iii without flash in the night make good shots and the build quality of xperia is far more better then other brands 100%
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Build quality is ok now, agree, that was not always the case in past. However, rest of the points remain valid.
decomposed said:
Don't tell me what should I do and what not. Go back to school. In past, during lcd tines many sony phones had problems, not only with common yellowish tint but also with fake waterproof, google it. Interestingly seems to appear also with oled displays. Just few examples:
How To Solve Yellow Tint On Screen And Water Damage Problems On Sony Xperia Z1S - PCbezz
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Fake waterproof xD I always used them in extreme conditions. Never had any water damage. Those who had problems maybe forgot to mention that they broke their screen or something and took it to a little shop somewhere to replace it, but they didn't use the oem parts and glue. Once I ran into this with my Z3, I broke the screen because I accidentally dropped it from a ladder. I was already out of guarantee time so I went to find a shop to replace it. They said they use oem screen and glue but I've noticed after the replace that something isn't right, so I opened the Aida64 and the screen wasn't 1080p, but 720p. I went back for compensation, they didn't accept it. I took the effort and they had to close their shops not long after.
decomposed said:
Buy it from other manufacturers? Like samsung?
Don't you have any imagination? Use your brain.
Besides it's not only about hardware, there are plenty of reviews and posts confirming aony takes worse pictures than other brands, especially in auto mode and dark conditions.
And yes, other brands using sony sensors stoll does way better than sony due to better software. And that's a fact confirmed by many specialists who compared camera samples.
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Mr specialist. Samsung also buys from Sony Iphone uses Sony sensors. Xiaomi uses Sony sensors. Everyone's using their sensors Take a look at pro photographer's reviews on the YouTube. They showed what it's capable of. Don't blame Sony that you can't use a pro camera device you said "don't tell me what to do" but maan, if you don't like Sony why are you here?!?!
decomposed said:
Build quality is ok now, agree, that was not always the case in past. However, rest of the points remain valid.
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It was always the case Was a good decision to make the battery unremovable because that made a lot of problems, but it was the case with every other manufacturers.
LaceeWearsPrada said:
Stop crying like babies. There'll be charger in the box (45w). And do not forget that it'll pack Sony's best 40 and 50mp cameras on the back with the latest 8 gen 1 + proc. and so on . And the quality worths a bit of extra for me. My xz premium and z3 still work without any errors, freezes or anything while my friends' other ios and android phones don't work right anymore, drain their batteries, random restarts and freezes etc etc..
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So once it was presented and we know it then where is your charger included in the box? And where are your "vest 40 a d 50mp cameras on the back"???
Who is crying like babies?
I will help you: you are!
Ignorant fanboy...
decomposed said:
So once it was presented and we know it then where is your charger included in the box? And where are your "vest 40 a d 50mp cameras on the back"???
Who is crying like babies?
I will help you: you are!
Ignorant fanboy...
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Yeah, I'm crying uh-huh who's here again to say something nonsense?! You can complain, but the only ones who got the phones so far is testers. Sony still says that they'll ship it with fast chargers. Okay, they didn't use those big mp cameras , even if they could beat the s*#+ out of other manufacturers with them. Wondering why they don't want to do that... But have to mention there that those Photographers who got their own Xperia IV to test it in real life conditions, they were really impressed by this phone, just like they were with 1 III. If you want to complain then complain, if you're not satisfied with what Sony offer, then leave the forum and buy something else. Btw if they do not include a charger, then what?! Who does nowadays?! Idk about you, but I don't really care about these little things
Hi,
My Xperia 1IV just came few days ago.
Paid 6500 PLN with VAT (23%).WH1000XM4 were included (1300PLN incl tax).
As I was planning on buying those headphones anyway for my wife, Xperia price was very attractive for me.
6500PLN is about 1400EUR. But 5200PLN is only 1100EUR.
No charger in the box (I don't worry, because I have more than enough).
Sony camera needs user knowledge to make good shots. And then it's better than any other phone in most circumstances.
It's a weird phone, with really strange design choices in many places. But it's not "bad".
I chose it over S22 Ultra. Specifically because it's a divergent design.
ov_darkness said:
Hi,
My Xperia 1IV just came few days ago.
Paid 6500 PLN with VAT (23%).WH1000XM4 were included (1300PLN incl tax).
As I was planning on buying those headphones anyway for my wife, Xperia price was very attractive for me.
6500PLN is about 1400EUR. But 5200PLN is only 1100EUR.
No charger in the box (I don't worry, because I have more than enough).
Sony camera needs user knowledge to make good shots. And then it's better than any other phone in most circumstances.
It's a weird phone, with really strange design choices in many places. But it's not "bad".
I chose it over S22 Ultra. Specifically because it's a divergent design.
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How is cellular network compatibility? I just spent a few days without service because the US model 1 III doesn't support domestic roaming on smaller carriers. Despite all the claimed LTE and NR bands, it's no more compatible than a cheap Chinese market phone. I don't know why they even bothered.