Is it possible to port Dex mode of Tab S4 to Tab S3?
Nothing is impossible to be done my friend.
Meanwhile you can use the Sentio app, it's really good so far.
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Meanwhile you can use the Sentio app, it's really good so far.
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That app is poorly optimized. It doesn't work well as a default launcher. And since it shows up in the recent tasks menu (something a launcher shouldn't do) it gets killed off..
Ohh, I have not used too much time yet. But I'm sure it can be used as a default launcher, you just have to give the permissions.
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I am really looking forward to having this feature as well on the Tab S3. Can't see a reason Samsung can't implement this other than planned obsolescence or exclusivity. Apps like taskbar aren't perfect but get the job done and DisplayLink has made it possible to cast to a monitor over HDMI but it's essentially screen recording so aspect ratios are messed up. Support for multiple displays is very exciting, being able to have different apps on the Tab and projecting different apps on the monitor. Or even using the Tab as a trackpad like the new note would be very handy.
Planned obsolescense is the answer, I guess we won't have the Dex.
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I am really looking forward to having this feature as well on the Tab S3. Can't see a reason Samsung can't implement this other than planned obsolescence or exclusivity. Apps like taskbar aren't perfect but get the job done and DisplayLink has made it possible to cast to a monitor over HDMI but it's essentially screen recording so aspect ratios are messed up. Support for multiple displays is very exciting, being able to have different apps on the Tab and projecting different apps on the monitor. Or even using the Tab as a trackpad like the new note would be very handy.
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Let me say that first and foremost, DeX is nothing more than a gimmick. There was a much better windowing environment in the Note 10.1 2014, and it worked better than DeX. Let's be frank, nobody will be using this tablet for productivity work. Some light writing and some email, possibly. One can do these things quite well in typical Android, DeX is not necessary. It is just eye candy, it is a way to sell a tablet for something that it would hardly used for.
If Samsung was positioning DeX as a competitor to Chrome OS., well, it should have produced at least a 12-inch screen laptop running just DeX and having access to Android apps. It would have been, possibly, better than most Chromebooks. The Chrome OS is also mostly a gimmick for real productivity work. Thus, we would have had the fight of the gimmicks.
Now, if one wants a good tablet that runs a decent windowing OS and has access to many applications and it can be used for substantial productivity work, one should purchase a Microsoft Surface or any of the many competitors. Considering the pricing of the SW4, this is not to difficult to contemplate!!
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Let me say that first and foremost, DeX is nothing more than a gimmick. There was a much better windowing environment in the Note 10.1 2014, and it worked better than DeX. Let's be frank, nobody will be using this tablet for productivity work. Some light writing and some email, possibly. One can do these things quite well in typical Android, DeX is not necessary. It is just eye candy, it is a way to sell a tablet for something that it would hardly used for.
If Samsung was positioning DeX as a competitor to Chrome OS., well, it should have produced at least a 12-inch screen laptop running just DeX and having access to Android apps. It would have been, possibly, better than most Chromebooks. The Chrome OS is also mostly a gimmick for real productivity work. Thus, we would have had the fight of the gimmicks.
Now, if one wants a good tablet that runs a decent windowing OS and has access to many applications and it can be used for substantial productivity work, one should purchase a Microsoft Surface or any of the many competitors. Considering the pricing of the SW4, this is not to difficult to contemplate!!
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Oh, I never personally owned the Tab 10.1 but I'll be interested in having a look at that too
Yeah, I believe if Samsung did that they could possibly gain more traction but I just feel it'll be good to at least have the option.
Well the only reason I still prefer Android for tablets is because of ARM architecture. Surface products with Intel chips still aren't as responsive from sleep and battery life is unpredictable. When Microsoft releases an ARM based surface, I'll be very tempted to go for something like that
I agree that having dex on the tab s3 would be great, having multiple MS Word tabs and internet all running would make the tab a lot more productive
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I am really looking forward to having this feature as well on the Tab S3. Can't see a reason Samsung can't implement this other than planned obsolescence or exclusivity. Apps like taskbar aren't perfect but get the job done and DisplayLink has made it possible to cast to a monitor over HDMI but it's essentially screen recording so aspect ratios are messed up. Support for multiple displays is very exciting, being able to have different apps on the Tab and projecting different apps on the monitor. Or even using the Tab as a trackpad like the new note would be very handy.
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Tab S4 uses SD 835 which supports windows on arm SD 820 does not so is Less capable to do things like this
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Oh, I never personally owned the Tab 10.1 but I'll be interested in having a look at that too
Yeah, I believe if Samsung did that they could possibly gain more traction but I just feel it'll be good to at least have the option.
Well the only reason I still prefer Android for tablets is because of ARM architecture. Surface products with Intel chips still aren't as responsive from sleep and battery life is unpredictable. When Microsoft releases an ARM based surface, I'll be very tempted to go for something like that
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Well, there are Win10 laptops with ARM processors. These machines are called "Always Connected" or something similar. However, a few typical Windows products will not run on ARM. In any case, I believe that HP and Asus (and others) have released these machines that are lighter and have better battery life than typical Windows laptops.
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Oh, I never personally owned the Tab 10.1 but I'll be interested in having a look at that too
Yeah, I believe if Samsung did that they could possibly gain more traction but I just feel it'll be good to at least have the option.
Well the only reason I still prefer Android for tablets is because of ARM architecture. Surface products with Intel chips still aren't as responsive from sleep and battery life is unpredictable. When Microsoft releases an ARM based surface, I'll be very tempted to go for something like that
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Tab S4 uses SD 835 which supports windows on arm SD 820 does not so is Less capable to do things like this
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I do not think so. Look at the windowing capabilities of the Note 10.1 2014, which had a much less capable processor than the Galaxy Tab S3. In fact, I still believe that the multitasking and multi-windowing capability of that tablet was substantially better than the current Dex solution. Why Samsung abandoned that solution to migrate to Dex may have more to do with selling cellphones than actually improving the multitasking and windowing capabilities of Android Tablets. In any case, I just do not think Dex is a good solution of 10-inch tablets. I would have much preferred to have seen a 12-inch Galaxy Tab Pro with DeX. Now, this tablet would have been great for both design/drawing and productivity work. There is really not much that can be gained by multi-windowing in a 10-inch panel and cramped keyboard. The idea is good, the machine that it is applied to is not the best place to enable it. Let's be frank about it.
Since Samsung is still selling (actively) the Tab S3 (it lowered the price by about $100), it is just possible that it may bring Dex to it (although I doubt it). The gains would be minimal, but Samsung may sell more of these less expensive tablets.
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Well, there are Win10 laptops with ARM processors. These machines are called "Always Connected" or something similar. However, a few typical Windows products will not run on ARM. In any case, I believe that HP and Asus (and others) have released these machines that are lighter and have better battery life than typical Windows laptops.
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I do not think so. Look at the windowing capabilities of the Note 10.1 2014, which had a much less capable processor than the Galaxy Tab S3. In fact, I still believe that the multitasking and multi-windowing capability of that tablet was substantially better than the current Dex solution. Why Samsung abandoned that solution to migrate to Dex may have more to do with selling cellphones than actually improving the multitasking and windowing capabilities of Android Tablets. In any case, I just do not think Dex is a good solution of 10-inch tablets. I would have much preferred to have seen a 12-inch Galaxy Tab Pro with DeX. Now, this tablet would have been great for both design/drawing and productivity work. There is really not much that can be gained by multi-windowing in a 10-inch panel and cramped keyboard. The idea is good, the machine that it is applied to is not the best place to enable it. Let's be frank about it.
Since Samsung is still selling (actively) the Tab S3 (it lowered the price by about $100), it is just possible that it may bring Dex to it (although I doubt it). The gains would be minimal, but Samsung may sell more of these less expensive tablets.
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The note 10.1 has the same kind of multi tasking as the tab s3's the floating windows and all the other stuff. All apps on tab s3 can be resizable anyway.
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The note 10.1 has the same kind of multi tasking as the tab s3's the floating windows and all the other stuff. All apps on tab s3 can be resizable anyway.
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Really? I have the Tab S3 right here in front of me and no application is resizable. In the 10.1 2014, one could have used the S-pen to draw the window of the application to run in that window. None of these capabilities are present in the S3. Either you never had the Note 10.1 2014 or the Tab S3.
Apps are definitely resizable. Look at the screenshot.
How did you do that with the windows?
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How did you do that with the windows?
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Drag from theupper left corner with the s pen. Some apps will work. Tapatalk crashes.
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Drag from theupper left corner with the s pen. Some apps will work. Tapatalk crashes.
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This is a kludge. There is nothing in the S3 that matches the multitasking and multiwindowing of the Note 10.1 2014. My guess is that what was in the Note 10.1 eventually "mutated" to Dex and this is really a pity, but not very surprising. Samsung has really no idea of what to do with its software innovations. It should have build on the multiasking and multiwindowing of the Note 10.1. Unfortunately, it tried to introduce the "Pro" version of this table with larger screen and when these larger Notes failed to impress, it retreated to the plain-vanilla (almost) Android, trying to move "Dex" to the cell phones (without much success there, either).
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Hey Fellas,
I'm currently an iPad 2 user. I have a Galaxy S phone (which I love) and won't give it up for an iPhone. I was considering buying a Tab... but I didn't have much of a choice when the iPad 2 came out.
Today I ran into a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (it was AMAZING) and I'm thinking about returning my iPad 2.
Would anyone recommend this?
I love the Android OS. I chose the iOS because of the amount of useful school/work apps it has. [IT field].
Another question is... does anyone here own both [or tried both the iPad 2 AND the G Tab]? I have to say that the iPad 2 keyboard was much smoother than the Galaxy Tab.
I tried it quick.. I didn't have much time to play with it. I thought the keyboard wasn't as fast.
How about school/IT apps?
Thanks in advance!
My mom have the iPad 2 and I love Honeycomb but when compared to iOS its missing a whole lot, especially on apps.
Honeycomb is a new OS for tablets and I see it growing in the future and apps are slowly being ported and optimized for Honeycomb tablets. iOS has been in the market for a while and honeycomb has got some catching up to do.
Buy a tablet for what it is now instead of expecting something out of it and just getting frustrated waiting for an app. I bout a zune HD thinking it will go toe to toe with the iPod touch but was just disappointed and ended up selling it and buying the iPod touch.
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Other than the infamous lag when typing in forums, keyboard speed is fine in every application I've used so far. For some the forum thing is a big deal, and I've worked around it for now by using a remote desktop app if I really feel the need to post an essay using the tab, but obviously that isn't ideal.
As for the keyboard itself, there are plenty to choose from. Swiftkey, Thumb Keyboard and Swype are all excellent alternatives if you don't like the stock HC keyboard or the Samsung one.
The tab comes with Quick Office pre-installed and that will do the job if you want to take notes and read documents. There are about a half dozen office suites and each have their pro's and con's, if you want to learn more about them there is a good comparison thread over at the Asus Transformer forums. They all have a ways to go though before they're suitable for real work with documents however.
For IT, I imagine apps like LogMeIn, Wyse Pocket Cloud, Overlook Fing, andSMB, SharesFinder, ASProxy, Connect Bot, etc would be useful.
to give you an honest answer stick with the Ipad. Everyone on here will try to give you a reach around about why the TAB is so great. But quite frankly in its current state its not. I'm typing this on my tab right now and am getting pissed that my words are showing up well after I press the keys. There are NO USEFULL ANDROID TABLET APPS available at this time. You want proof. Go to the marketplace and see if you van even tell the difference between what is a table app and what isn't. Some tablet apps even have disclaimers stating they aren't even compatible with the GT yet. I purchased my tab because I'm believing in the Modding community will one day provide me with the goodies I crave for use on what is a very (hardware) capable device. But if you want somethingthat just works right now... get an IPAD.
I am still so much on the fence about the GT 10.1 I have a hard time even trying to formulate a reply to this. As I think I go back and forth every 5 minutes.
GT 10.1
+ Android is open, open file system, third party app stores/markets.
+ Wide screen display, higher resolution, and stereo speakers great for videos.
+ Highly customizable with widgets.
+ XDA community usually does great job with custom ROMs.
+ Google apps and Amazon CloudDrive and App Store are great.
- Android 3 is a rush job, screen response not great (not bad either), keyboard lag.
- App crashes and random reboots rare, but happen more than they should.
- Tablet app select still small, and Android app versions sometimes inferior to iOS.
- Uncertainty when Samsung might push the Android 4.0 update, they've been ver slow in the past.
- No Netflix
iPad 2 (I own an iPad 1, so this is mostly about iOS)
+ Over a year head start in tablets, lots of quality apps.
+ iOS versions of some apps are better, Tweetdeck, Tune In Radio, Taptu, etc.
+ Netflix, Hulu Plus (don't care for Hulu, but really miss Netflix on my GT 10.1)
+ iOS very responsive and smooth.
+ Square screen ratio nice for browsing, ebooks.
+ Apple makes software and hardware, so dependable updates.
- No file system access, must use iTunes (usually) to transfer files.
- Google, YouTube apps sucks on iOS.
- No third party application markets (no good Jailbreak for iPad 2, so no Cydia).
- Lower res display, 512MB of RAM.
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Hey Fellas,
I'm currently an iPad 2 user. I have a Galaxy S phone (which I love) and won't give it up for an iPhone. I was considering buying a Tab... but I didn't have much of a choice when the iPad 2 came out.
Today I ran into a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (it was AMAZING) and I'm thinking about returning my iPad 2.
Would anyone recommend this?
I love the Android OS. I chose the iOS because of the amount of useful school/work apps it has. [IT field].
Another question is... does anyone here own both [or tried both the iPad 2 AND the G Tab]? I have to say that the iPad 2 keyboard was much smoother than the Galaxy Tab.
I tried it quick.. I didn't have much time to play with it. I thought the keyboard wasn't as fast.
How about school/IT apps?
Thanks in advance!
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Hello!
My friend owns the iPad/iPad 2 and I use them regularly when I'm at his house as he has multiple. I own a Galaxy Tab 7" and 10.1 myself. Here's my personal opinion:
The iPad had a significant build quality difference between it and the 7" Tab. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 corrects this, but it's still very difficult to beat a uniform metal structure versus a plastic one. This will boil down to whether you prefer a higher build quality, or a lighter device. The 10.1 is way lighter, the iPad 2's build quality is better.
As far as applications go... iOS tablet-centric apps blows Android out of the water. There is no denying this. You can still get any application you need on both platforms, but the higher resolution ones on the iPad are way more numerous. Here's to hoping this changes soon for Honeycomb.
As far as operating systems go... Honeycomb is ages beyond iOS in terms of a more desktop-like feel on a Tablet and less of a phone-like feel. iOS 5 does little to correct this. You will find the OS itself much more pleasant on a Honeycomb tablet.
Hardware: The processor in the iPad 2 is fast. The processor in the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is fast. I don't see any speed differences between the two, except for the browser. The lead Google put in Android 2.2 shows heavily with the UI optimized for Tablets. Also, the Tegra 2 processor is the first processor I can say having Flash is a definitive advantage. I can stream HD videos from Flash sources on the web (ABC, Crunchyroll, etc) with very little to no stuttering. Props to NVidia here. I could probably do a video for you, if you were interested.
The back camera on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is far superior, though I don't think you'll be using it very often when cameras on phones are smaller and easier to use. Just my opinion.
Last but not least: I really dislike the iPad (iOS 4) and Google's default keyboard on Tablets. They are extremely hard to use while handling the device. I use Swiftkey Tablet X on my 7" and 10.1" Tab and LOVE it. If you keep your iPad 2 I really suggest you get iOS 5 on it to take advantage of the split keyboard effect. It makes typing far easier. If you do go back and get a Google-based Tab, drop their crappy keyboard and get Swiftkey X. It's in beta - I can send you the apk if you do end up going that route. Just PM me.
[Edit] Quick edit after reading Ravynmagi's post - not having Netflix is a HUGE HUGE bummer. There's no word on it coming to Honeycomb either, so don't hold your breath[/Edit]
I've had both. the iTampon 2 is riddled with screen problems. I wouldn't pay 500 bucks for it. It does have more apps... but let's be honest..... how many apps do you really need?
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I've had both. the iTampon 2 is riddled with screen problems. I wouldn't pay 500 bucks for it. It does have more apps... but let's be honest..... how many apps do you really need?
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That was the earlier batches though. I'm of the impression that has been resolved, hasn't it?
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That was the earlier batches though. I'm of the impression that has been resolved, hasn't it?
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Check the support forums at the Apple site. Sure hasn't.
I don't like Ipads. It feels like you are stuck into the app drawer forever.
Sure, there are tons of apps for tablets but everything else is below 10.1 standards.
It starts with the homescreen, over to multitasking abilities and ends in hardware.
And a 4:3 screen is a no go. Every media is made for 16:9 or 16:10, have fun watching movies on that. Ipad2 feels like an ancient TV.
And web without flash? Seriously? That also means no browser games which all are high resolution and made for PC !
Ipads are just for the fancy glamour aspect. The apps look better, for example ebook readers are nicer animated. But I am a purist, I don't want animations around my text, I want a nice and huge display. Why buy 10.1 if half of your screen is used up by showing virutal pages?
The fact that Honeycomb doesn't have many good apps and Tegra 2 seems pretty poor overall (poor video/codec playing, maybe be an OS issue though) I would get an iPad. It will just be a smoother/better experience.
When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
I was debating between these 2 devices and in the end I chose the IPAD2. I really wanted to go with Android, but right now its just not ready for "primetime" just yet. I may revisit this when ICS comes out and the Android Tablets and Apps have become more mature. Much like when Android came out, you are goign to ahve to do a lot fo work to get it to do what you want to do. I think the GTAB has great potential, its the OS that holds it back. App conversion\creation has been very slow so far, which is another drawback.
As others have said though, take account of what you want to do with the tablet and what apps you will use. Then go through both tablets and see what will suit your needs. You cant go wrong with either as both have their negative and positive attributes. Whichever is going to fit your needs the best is the one to get, everyone has different needs and wants, so everyone will have a differing opinion.
I can say though that I have not been disappointed with my decision. I still come here and lurk to see what the current state of the GTAB is though as it still sparks my interest and I want it to succeed.
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When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
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My experience is quality has usually been lower on the Android side. Either the Android version has fewer features or is less stable or not even compatible with your device. Fragmentation is a real ***** on Android right now and quality is suffering because of it.
I really don't see an argument for Android having an advantage on the app side. That's going to be the iPad's strong point for quite some time.
But I do agree, plenty of people can find good quality apps that suit their needs and be completely happy.
honeycomb really suck balls! i have to have 3 different browsers installed to do what a normal browser does
firefox to download stuff (if u disagree, try using some other browser to download from filesonic/hotfiles)
skyfire to view flash sites
and the ever temperamental stock browser
why am i able to do the above with any browser froyo/gingerbread but not honeycomb?
typing in username/password is a nightmare, tap a key --> wait for the character to appear --> type the next key.. honestly if u want to try out android, get yourself an android phone, avoid honeycomb tablets for the time being
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When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
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ipad has a lot of useful and quality apps compared to the less than a hundred apps that honeycomb offer.
I'm not talking about games because the tablet optimized games that honeycomb/tegra have are awesome but when it comes to apps for specific tasks they have very limited selection and not a lot of them are comparable to the ipad app counterpart.
I'm talking about finance apps like iReconcile for iPad and portfolio apps for photographers.
I have not seen one portfolio app for honeycomb and ipad have a color calibration app made by datacolor called SpyderGallery but non existent on the honeycomb.
I'm just saying that honeycomb might be good for someone that want to do basic stuff on their tablet but if you want a task specific app, the ipad has them and honeycomb desn't have them but doesn't mean they're not going to have them in the future.
I think that we're going to see a lot of apps ported to honeycomb by the end of the year.
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I've played with the ipad & currently own a GT 10.1. For me (& I think Rayvnmagi summed it all up nicely), the two greatest advantages of Honeycomb are media (ability to play Flash & higher resolution video) and the mod-ability (I just bought an Epic 4G -- $30 on Amazon! -- and I haven't stopped playing with ROMs since; something I could never do with my iphone 3GS).
Yes, the apps are decidedly not there. Yes, the keyboard lag is awful when typing in forums, etc. I'm willing to put up with that for now because I know two things: 1) the fellas here at xda are awesome & will most likely come out with a fix in the near future & 2) Google handed out GT 10.1 developer editions to everyone at its developer conference. That can only be a good thing in terms of app development for the GT 10.1.
All that being said, I actually recommended my dad (NOT a techie) get an ipad 2. He's not as tech-savvy, and he's of the mindset that things should just work. The ipad has established itself as a very stable platform that works (usually) without a hitch & I have a feeling if he'd gotten a GT 10.1, he would have had several headaches & never used it.
So, I feel like in the end, it really depends on your usage preference--do you want an established tech with a little bit lower specs or do you want the newer tech with more bugs but better specs?
My problem with the tab right now has nothing to do with apps etc etc. That stuff will eventually come, just a little time.
My problem is with lag, video playback issues, and the fact that samsung does not like to update their products to push you to buy new ones. Even if google fixes all the issues currently with the tablets, there is no guarantee samsung will give us that update.
Samsung's flagship phone (galaxy s) has yet to get the ota froyo update. If you send your phone back in for a warranty repair, yes you will receive a refurbed one with froyo or you can get it through kies if you are aware of it's existence. Yet the new $70 samsung exhibit is just a replay of the vibrant but with gingerbread!
I don't know about the other manufacturers, but I don't expect the tab to improve much more than it has now. There will most likely be a new tablet from samsung in the fall to winter season sporting icecream sandwich...if that happens, forget updates!
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SR45 said:
When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
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I laugh at this comment because androids tablets apps are lacking in BOTH QUALITY and QUANTITY. Seriously dude you set ursrlf up for that.
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The problem with the iPad is that once you buy into the Apple infrastructure if you buy a decent quality of apps you're locked into them forever unless you want to start over again. Personally I love the flexibility of Android and will never go back to having an iPhone (which I used to have).
When Exchange didn't work with my corporate server with my iPhone I was out of luck. With my Droid X I had the same problem but was able to download Touchdown which works fine. To me, that flexibility makes it more worthwhile to stay with Android and lose out on the over abundance of "fart apps" in the Apple app store.
I just got my first android tab(TFP). Everything is so far so good. Frankly was really worried since there are tons of people whining about Wifi, bleeding and even short charger cable(lol mine wasnt short at all)
Either way, biggest and maybe only disappointment i have with my tablet is that there is nothing on Android Market that is comparable to "Notability" from IOS.
If you have an Ipad, you know what i am talking about.... I looked around for a while and cant find anything as good. I was wondering if anyone can make an recommendation on a note taking app that is similar to Notability.
I've never used the app, but have you taken a look at Evernote? Or am I completely off base?
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I've never used the app, but have you taken a look at Evernote? Or am I completely off base?
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bit off base, Notability is focused on handwriting with fingers or stylus. With Evernote, you have to type notes or have to draw it.
Wouldn't it just be as fast to type than to write anyway?
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Hey!
I am using Epistle and once I got familiar with the interface I don't feel like switching.
As for hand writing - there are some keyboards that come in handy. I am using SlideIT and while not hand writing it's ridiculously fast to type this way.
I have been wondering the same thing. My co-worker has an ipad2 and I think notability is freaking awesome. I was trying to find an equivalent for my Xoom and can't. Why cant someone make an equivalent? Notability is awesome and only costs 99cents in the app store.
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I just got my first android tab(TFP). Everything is so far so good. Frankly was really worried since there are tons of people whining about Wifi, bleeding and even short charger cable(lol mine wasnt short at all)
Either way, biggest and maybe only disappointment i have with my tablet is that there is nothing on Android Market that is comparable to "Notability" from IOS.
If you have an Ipad, you know what i am talking about.... I looked around for a while and cant find anything as good. I was wondering if anyone can make an recommendation on a note taking app that is similar to Notability.
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I don't have an iPad but I do have a tf300 and would love to have Notability or Penultimate on Android. The only apps I found that are similar to Notability or Penultimate are:
- Papyrus Beta (seems to be the only one with Palm rejection)
- Writepad Stylus
- LectureNotes
- Handrite Note Pro (another user recommended "Genial Writing" as a better app)
I'm not sure about that claim, but that's what I found so far.
There are some more related android apps but some of them have mixed reviews, and do not seem very reliable.
At this point I have not found an app that comes close to Notability, and it seems that Notability won't be available for android (at least not soon).
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March 8, 2012 at 12:53 am
Well it’s leaving us all out in the dark. There’s nothing that comes close in the android market…
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Emergency Medic says:
March 11, 2012 at 1:38 am
Seriously, I know people who’ve bought iPads just to be able to use this app! Think about it – I understand the need for an android version but I’m going to be selfish and plead with the Devs to keep the focus on iOS
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Thanks everyone for your interest in Notability. I am with Ginger Labs, the developer of Notability. Carolyn did a nice job reviewing the app, thanks Carolyn!
For now, we are focused on iOS devices, the first being iPad, and we’re considering an iPhone version and possibly a version for the computer. We’re getting more requests for an Android version every week, and will consider it, but probably after the other versions are complete.
I think the new pensuite for the Samsung Galaxy Note has some features which are similar to the ones of notability.... Maybe a port of it could come even for tablets, once we'll have the ics version..
I am the author of LectureNotes, so my opinion is probably somewhat biased. In any case, I want to point out that to develop apps for iPad is significantly easier than to develop apps for Android: There is only one hardware manufacturer, one system version, and two screen resolutions (the latter only since very recently), etc. The world of Android is much more colorful and challenging: There are multiple hardware variants, various system versions, a multitude of screen resolutions, etc., not to talk about devices that do not behave in accordance with the documentation. As a consequence, the time and money you need to invest in app development is not comparable, and this is of course true for all handwriting apps in Android, not just for LectureNotes. Please consider this when comparing apps.
BTW: In difference to what is stated above, LectureNotes does have a palm rejection, either hardware based (for devices with active pens), software emulated (some devices), or a heuristic (all other devices) (also WritePad Stylus has a palm rejection.) But if you want to do serious note taking with your device, I definitely recommend a tablet with an active pen, irrespective of what Android app you use.
Its now 2013. Has ANYONE found a comparable app yet? Has any development improved? I use and love Evernote. Just wish I could freely type, draw and write notes like Notability.
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Its now 2013. Has ANYONE found a comparable app yet? Has any development improved? I use and love Evernote. Just wish I could freely type, draw and write notes like Notability.
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Found this old thread and I'm wondering the same thing! Does anyone have any good ideas? I'm getting a tablet later this year specifically for pdf reading and editing, and would love to get a nexus 7 rather than an ipad mini, but unfortunately notability is tipping the scales towards the ipad.
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Found this old thread and I'm wondering the same thing! Does anyone have any good ideas? I'm getting a tablet later this year specifically for pdf reading and editing, and would love to get a nexus 7 rather than an ipad mini, but unfortunately notability is tipping the scales towards the ipad.
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Well cant say I found it. I've found some close apps. Like Handwrite, evernote which I've mainly been using and handy memo. Not sure how close these are to Notability though.
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Well cant say I found it. I've found some close apps. Like Handwrite, evernote which I've mainly been using and handy memo. Not sure how close these are to Notability though.
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I have found fiinote, 7 notes, free note, and lecture notes to be the best for serious hand writing I do on__l a galaxy note I feel like fii note needs major UI improvements but it is great for genetics lecture notes, because I hike my notes in my own handwriting. + the free draw has snap to grid this and the drawing us. handwriting are on 2 separate layers SO Easy to edit an switch between quickly I use the 7 notes keyboard as my input method for all things as it allows for single word edit, after writing out along string, has scrolling for a few screens before you need to confirm it and start another string. Some only allow 1 screen worth of writing, also even though it needs to be confirmed It does Still add each word you write in real time
What I want + have Yet to find is a Notability function-adding a power point the base layer so I can take notes on that in Or go. Anyone know of one? if I do PDF program I am basically adding comments in a clunky way, so I need a note taking/handwriting app I can add-ppt or pdf to and handwrite on it. My classmate can do this with notability
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Note anytime is amazing I loved notability but for a great deal on my Android tablet and honestly hated all the apps for notes on this thing until now. Evernote only lets you add an attachment, office suite made you pay for the edit version, lecture notes is just writing, Polaris was good but no writing. I liked Kingsoft but you had to use the Samsung keyboard to write to text and it would add it to a pdf. Note anytime is above all the best.You have to just download it and go through the east tutorial!:good:
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Note anytime is amazing I loved notability but for a great deal on my Android tablet and honestly hated all the apps for notes on this thing until now. Evernote only lets you add an attachment, office suite made you pay for the edit version, lecture notes is just writing, Polaris was good but no writing. I liked Kingsoft but you had to use the Samsung keyboard to write to text and it would add it to a pdf. Note anytime is above all the best.You have to just download it and go through the east tutorial!:good:
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Hi --- checking note anytime, seems amazing, but I could not find a way to export a multi-page note to PDF. It's me or it's not implemented? (without that, it's basically not useful).
EDIT: see the matter here: (cannot post link, so you have to type it ): getsatisfaction.com/noteanytime/topics/save_as_pdf_from_the_android_version
Lecture notes works quite well, but the handwriting is very shaky and horrible compared to Notability.
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I have been wondering the same thing. My co-worker has an ipad2 and I think notability is freaking awesome. I was trying to find an equivalent for my Xoom and can't. Why cant someone make an equivalent? Notability is awesome and only costs 99cents in the app store.
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LectureNotes is promising. Noteability is awesome. LectureNotes is probably more powerful as it has a lot of customisation features. Perhaps too much in my opinion as a Noteability user.
But writing on a Samsung Note is really far better than using a squishy stylus on the iPad. I've been using S notes, the built in Samsung app, but it is too staid, slow and sluggish. Am coming to grips with LecturenNotes as I work with a lot of large sized PDFs. So far LN has been promising. Have got around to importing my first file and starting to annotate it. LN looks to deliver a lot. Let me see. The developer is extremely responsive. If that continues, I am sure my life will be a whiz with LN.
Would love Noteabiity on Android to cut through a lot of the learning curve on LN.
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LectureNotes is promising. Noteability is awesome. LectureNotes is probably more powerful as it has a lot of customisation features. Perhaps too much in my opinion as a Noteability user.
But writing on a Samsung Note is really far better than using a squishy stylus on the iPad. I've been using S notes, the built in Samsung app, but it is too staid, slow and sluggish. Am coming to grips with LecturenNotes as I work with a lot of large sized PDFs. So far LN has been promising. Have got around to importing my first file and starting to annotate it. LN looks to deliver a lot. Let me see. The developer is extremely responsive. If that continues, I am sure my life will be a whiz with LN.
Would love Noteabiity on Android to cut through a lot of the learning curve on LN.
I'm curious to hear other Nexus 10 owner's observations on the Chromebook. Do you think it's in the same league with the Nexus or am I just comparing 'apples to oranges'?
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I'm curious to hear other Nexus 10 owner's observations on the Chromebook. Do you think it's in the same league with the Nexus or am I just comparing 'apples to oranges'?
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Apples to oranges honestly. Chrome books are typically very cheap netbooks with very limited software and hardware. Sort of a very cheap version of a macbook air without the form factor, slimness or software. The one time I used it I was amazed at how limited you are.
The chrome book pixel on the other hand is the single sexiest bit of industrial engineering I have ever seen. Unfortunately its still running that chrome OS. Honestly, I can see paying $250 for a chrome book even with how limited it is because its so affordable. The pixel on the other hand I can't see being worth it at all. As beautifully crafted as it is, the OS is just too limited to be worth the $1200. If it was running something like Mac OS or Windows 8 (touch input) I could see myself wanting one.
Hell I have both. Its not a computer replacement but it depends what your looking to get out of it. If your primary concern is work I'd say chrome book if you are using it for play then N10 hands down. It is apples to oranges but they're both great devices
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Apples to oranges honestly. Chrome books are typically very cheap netbooks with very limited software and hardware. Sort of a very cheap version of a macbook air without the form factor, slimness or software. The one time I used it I was amazed at how limited you are.
The chrome book pixel on the other hand is the single sexiest bit of industrial engineering I have ever seen. Unfortunately its still running that chrome OS. Honestly, I can see paying $250 for a chrome book even with how limited it is because its so affordable. The pixel on the other hand I can't see being worth it at all. As beautifully crafted as it is, the OS is just too limited to be worth the $1200. If it was running something like Mac OS or Windows 8 (touch input) I could see myself wanting one.
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Thanks for the very informative response.
I've had my 10 for a couple of months now & have yet to find a decent keyboard so I can use it as a semi-replacement for my laptop. I just want to use it to access files on my network occasionally to edit, etc, but not lose the tablet experience, if you will.
I purchased the Nexus at Staples & I have the option of returning it, no questions asked, if I chose to do so.
Bottom line, based on what you've described, it sounds like the CB is much more limited than the Nexus in terms of usability, correct?
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Hell I have both. Its not a computer replacement but it depends what your looking to get out of it. If your primary concern is work I'd say chrome book if you are using it for play then N10 hands down. It is apples to oranges but they're both great devices
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Please see my response to "NickTheMajin". I'm not looking for a total laptop replacement; just a nice tablet/laptop hybrid but not for all of the things one might get in a fully loaded laptop.
That said, I do love the Nexus. I think the issue of a very powerful keyboard is what I need to retain it.
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Please see my response to "NickTheMajin". I'm not looking for a total laptop replacement; just a nice tablet/laptop hybrid but not for all of the things one might get in a fully loaded laptop.
That said, I do love the Nexus. I think the issue of a very powerful keyboard is what I need to retain it.
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For your use I would really recommend two things. Either the Microsoft Surface or waiting and seeing if a new Transformer tablet comes out. At this point I would not recommend the Asus Transformer Pad Infinity, its really not that good of a tablet and has a ton of performance issues. But Asus will likely release another tablet in its transformer line this year.
Based on what you said the best for you is a windows 8 tablet hybrid. I would not get surface I tried both RT and Pro and its OK but keyboard sucks big time. I would suggest you get the lenovo thinkpad helix. It is similar to Asus transformer but much more powerful and windows 8 coming out in April.
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Unfortunately its still running that chrome OS. Honestly, I can see paying $250 for a chrome book even with how limited it is because its so affordable. The pixel on the other hand I can't see being worth it at all. As beautifully crafted as it is, the OS is just too limited to be worth the $1200. If it was running something like Mac OS or Windows 8 (touch input) I could see myself wanting one.
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Not sure if it was mentioned yet or not, but Chromebooks (afaik) are "open", as in, you can install any compatible OS. ARM-based Chromebooks are a bit more limited on other OS options, in comparison to x86 Chromebooks.
Issue is the hard drive space is crap on chrome book most have 16gb not enough IMO.
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Not sure if it was mentioned yet or not, but Chromebooks (afaik) are "open", as in, you can install any compatible OS. ARM-based Chromebooks are a bit more limited on other OS options, in comparison to x86 Chromebooks.
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I was not aware of this. Could you theoretically put Windows 8 on the Chromebook Pixel? Because that would actually make me consider getting one to supplement my desktop. $1200 is steep but the build quality of the thing is more than worth it if I can put software in it that is useful.
I love my nexus 10 and I was going to purchase a Samsung chromebook but the only thing that stopped me was not being able too run adb and fastboot and hook it up to my phone ....so I replaced the hard drive in my old HP lap top and installed Ubuntu 13.04 on it ....unless something has changed when I was looking at the chrome book about a month ago there wasn't a way to install the platform tools without having to do a million things I wanted something simple but oh well :good:
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I'm curious to hear other Nexus 10 owner's observations on the Chromebook. Do you think it's in the same league with the Nexus or am I just comparing 'apples to oranges'?
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N10 and the Samsung Series 3 ARM Chromebook are nearly the same in speed.
Look here for more info: https://plus.google.com/communities/105678482604512626671
You can also install Ubuntu on this machine and run it simultaneously with ChromeOS.
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I was not aware of this. Could you theoretically put Windows 8 on the Chromebook Pixel? Because that would actually make me consider getting one to supplement my desktop. $1200 is steep but the build quality of the thing is more than worth it if I can put software in it that is useful.
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You should be able to. I have a beta version Chromebook (cr-48) and I was able to install Windows 8 on that. Google even had a tutorial on their development site, so I'm sure you can do that with the newer Chromebooks.
Thanks to all for the great advice! At this point, I think that I'll hold onto my 10 & get a really robust keyboard. Speaking of, I've seen several. Top 3? May at least drop by a store to see a CB for the heck of it.
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Can Chromebooks ADB connect to phones? That is my only sticking point on pulling the trigger on a Chromebook.
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Thanks to all for the great advice! At this point, I think that I'll hold onto my 10 & get a really robust keyboard. Speaking of, I've seen several. Top 3? May at least drop by a store to see a CB for the heck of it.
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Since you're going to keep the Nexus 10, I recommend this keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLE...&sr=8-1&keywords=zagg+flex+Bluetooth+keyboard
The stand it comes with is terrible and mine was torn out of the box. I bought it for the keyboard though and could care less about the stand since I'm using a case with a build in stand. To keep things nice and portable without going with a full size keyboard is say this is one of the best options, especially for the price. Other options were up to twice the cost.
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You should be able to. I have a beta version Chromebook (cr-48) and I was able to install Windows 8 on that. Google even had a tutorial on their development site, so I'm sure you can do that with the newer Chromebooks.
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I had a CR-48 too, was pretty awesome Particularly liked that it supported UEFI.
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Can Chromebooks ADB connect to phones? That is my only sticking point on pulling the trigger on a Chromebook.
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No idea on ChromeOS (although with Linux at the base, I imagine it should be possible to some extent), but if you load another OS onto the Chromebook, then yes.
I have a Samsung Series 3 Chromebook and I just ordered a Nexus 10. I know I can't speak from experience, as I don't have the 10 yet, but I plan to use each in conjunction with another - the 10 for light browsing on the couch, reading (I.e. Flip board, pocket, ebooks), playing games (I have ps3 controllers so it should work out well) and since I'm also a student, using it as a notebook with a stylus, going through PowerPoints and reading textbooks.
The Chrome book, as mentioned by someone earlier is moreso a work machine. To be honest, its fairly slow in my opinion, but that's essentially a given with the current price point. However, both the track pad and keyboard work extremely well, and are comparable to that of a Macbook Pro.
Honestly I'm questioning how I will use the Chrome book, now that I have a Nexus 10, a case with a stand and a great Bluetooth keyboard (apple keyboard), but I still think it would be nice in terms of actual browsing or doing work
Also, I don't feel limited at all with the Chromebook. All my document needs are taken care of by Google Drive (with 100gb of extra storage when you buy a chrome book), I have both Google tasks , Google calendar, MightyText (SMS from from computer) and Chime (notifications extension), and if theres anything I desperately need to do, I have Chrome Remote Desktop. I don't know if ADB is possible on the Chrome book , as I don't use it. But, you can always sideload Ubuntu. Finally, the chrome book has amazing battery life and has Netflix support so there's not much more I could ask for $250
Just my 2 cents
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Since you're going to keep the Nexus 10, I recommend this keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLE...&sr=8-1&keywords=zagg+flex+Bluetooth+keyboard
The stand it comes with is terrible and mine was torn out of the box. I bought it for the keyboard though and could care less about the stand since I'm using a case with a build in stand. To keep things nice and portable without going with a full size keyboard is say this is one of the best options, especially for the price. Other options were up to twice the cost.
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I quickly checked this out on Amazon & the latest reviews were along the lines of 'wish they would make this for the Nexus, etc' IYO, what makes this keyboard stand out for the Nexus 10 specifically?
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I quickly checked this out on Amazon & the latest reviews were along the lines of 'wish they would make this for the Nexus, etc' IYO, what makes this keyboard stand out for the Nexus 10 specifically?
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Not sure what people mean by "wish they would make this for the nexus" but it's just a good, solid keyboard overall. Granted, I don't have a lot of experience with a lot of other keyboards, but I'm not searching for another since I got this one. My case came with a cheap keyboard (I have the Poetic case/keyboard combo) and it needed replacing, that's when I looked at reviews and decided on the Zagg.
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I have been looking for a tablet for myself. Mostly, for note/lectures taking and reading. And also for remote connections to Linux machines, when I'm at the beach for example.
When I first saw it, I immediately understood that I had to have it. I bought Android version through Lenovo website. Windows just doesn't make sense to me on this device, it is not powerful enough, and it is a tablet! It is not supposed to replace a laptop. I don't find Windows apps ecosystem as good for mobile devices, as Android.
Waited about a week. Was very excited, when I finally got a package (yeah, I know, I'm a grown-up baby ). And, unfortunately, was disappointed right out of the box. The screen was defective (I even posted it here, lol): uneven color temperature to such level, that I cannot stand. But, I decided to give it a try anyways.
1. Hardware is impressive. Tablet looks fantastic. Sound is very good for the device of this size. I'm still blown away by a case itself. I liked the hinge, and how you can easily transform the tablet.
2. Halo keyboard looks futuristic. And it is OK for typing. I saw many reviews heavily criticizing it, but it is fine. Yes, you cannot type as fast, as on the mechanical keyboard, but it is still much faster than on the on-screen keyboard. Well, touchpad is bad and doesn't support multi-touch (though manual suggests it does), but I actually don't think one needs a touchpad on Android, so I don't complain here.
3. Drawing and note-taking on the Wacom surface is reliable and was a good experience for me. It is a little bit awkward in the beginning to physically write not directly on top of the area where image appears, but it is very easy to get used to. No buttons on the pen though.
4. Atom CPU is more than enough, device felt very responsive overall. However, I did notice it stuttered while charging, probably due to thermal throttling. But on battery I didn't notice any performance issues with the apps I used.
5. Now comes a weak part. Software.
I liked the taskbar, it is nice and useful, but overall, stock software feels like it is a beta version, and it is very basic (to say the least). Especially Lenovo apps (including note-taking). Well, not a real minus, since there are good apps in Google Store. But Lenovo Android customizations definitely need polishing.
Multi-window is almost useless, you cannot resize apps, but only have a smartphone-like size. And in windowed mode apps very often crash (I actually don't remember, when was the last time anything crashed on my Nexus 5, but I root-customized it...).
Some settings simply don't work: no matter what you do, it resets itself back to the default value. For some reason, I couldn't select my Google account as a backup account... Encryption is enabled by default, and you cannot disable it (it actually resulted in a factory reset, see below). Transition animations constantly turned on/off by themselves. And manual is simply inconsistent with the actual software.
I didn't find an easy way to switch Halo keyboard languages.
No customization for note-taking app: every time you switch to Wacom input mode, annoying Lenovo note-taking small window appears, and you have to close it in order to continue drawing in your app.
I had a nasty experience with an update. While updating everything seemed normal, but on the final boot I got a message "Encryption failed. Your tablet will be factory reset". And, yep, I got a completely fresh system, but it was updated. :good: And since there was no option to use my Google account for backup, I had to reinstall and reconfigure everything again. :silly:
Taking all that into account with my initial hardware problem, I just decided to return my YogaBook. I should say, it does feel sad a little bit as it is a very unique device. Honestly, I really wanted to love this device. But it definitely needs polishing, and if you're not a gadget enthusiast, you probably should wait for the next version.
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Sure. Do you disagree on all points or only on negative ones?
I really wanted to love this device. Well, I'm returning mine anyways because of the screen issue. I went with my YogaBook to BestBuy and compared it to other tablets, and yep, even Samsung Tab A 10.1'' has a better screen than my tablet. This is definitely unacceptable.
I'm not 100% sure though, if I should just return it or actually do an exchange. But I'm returning, because in this case, if I change my mind, I can purchase a new one (hopefully, without screen defects) (effectively do an "exchange").
If you could be so kind, and point out to me how to fix these software glitches, I would really appreciate it.
couldnt agree more. I personally contacted lenovo in order to return the yoga book too. so disappointed. I think they should have installed Chromebook OS
BTW, I also had the problem with the upgrade and I had to reset everything...
Just curious . . . .
Don't you think the problems will be solved with updates? It is a new product after all. :silly:
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Don't you think the problems will be solved with updates? It is a new product after all. :silly:
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Maybe. That's why I say one should wait for another version.
I have bought Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 with S Pen, and this tablet actually performs much better than YogaBook, despite lower specs. Moreover, it actually feels much more comfortable to write directly on the screen.
I just got mine in uae and despite its flaws i really love this device because of the battery life, sound, display and the wacom stylus. Sure the halo keyboard needs some more work but otherwise it works as intended. Just waiting for someone to make a remix os for this.
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Maybe. That's why I say one should wait for another version.
I have bought Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 with S Pen, and this tablet actually performs much better than YogaBook, despite lower specs. Moreover, it actually feels much more comfortable to write directly on the screen.
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I pulled the trigger and am going to give it a try. The biggest selling point for me is being able to take notes on paper and pen and then have handwriting recognition do its magic.
Also, there is "Any Pen" support for writing directly on the screen. Though it is not perfect, it should be enough for me.
Admittedly, I am still not 100% convinced and I will let you know how it goes when I get my hands on it.
i picked one up at last friday, i wanted a light decent 10 inch android tablet for mostly browsing, evernote and messing on, the keyboard is a compromise but suits my needs, if im going to do a large amount of typing ill do it on my desktop pc, I personally really like it overall but I just hope they bring Nougat to it so we can atleast have the 2 window option, other than that i lowered the dpi because it was far too high for me, and hopefully we get root soon so i can force chrome to always display desktop sites, as mobile sites on a 10 inch tablet is stupid.
oh i also wish you could scroll easily with the trackpad but i guess thats an Android limitation.
Yeah true that really need that nougat. Has anyone tried installing remix os on their yoga book?
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Yeah true that really need that nougat. Has anyone tried installing remix os on their yoga book?
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I ůove this device so much but i must totaly agree that Lenovo should agree with jide and Remix OS should be preinstalled as the lenovo modified android realy sucks and is inmature... BTW i am intersted in same Did anyone?
I love it, you have to get used to it
Got mine few days ago.
I love it.
It takes some adjusting of workflows, but it is new, it is different, it is astonishing! Those are the reasons I bought it!.
HINGE IS MIND BLOWING!!!
Coming from range of tablets (Samsung 7" once upon a time, 10.1 Samsung, Xperia tablet z...) and many phones from different manufacturers, keeping just glass/glass as lite motiv (iPhone 4,xperia z1, S6 edge, S7 edge) I confirm it is different!
Missing lot of Samsung staf, missing lot of IOS stuff, but who cares. Playstore can provide all needed apps for my life/work stile.
It is little bit havy, looking at you keybd, but it has a keybd. For others I had to buy separate one. Halo is not a PC (Mak) keybd, but tablet is not a PC nor Mak. This just works It would be nice to change halo keybd (what you can see) but I can live with German layout I've got, just installed swift and off we go!
The only thing that is a real problem is waterproofing! I was so happy reading in a hot bath! When Experia started leaking it really hurts!
If someone knows about waterproof light case for yoga, please, pretty please let me know!
Everything else will solve it self out, root, android 7.... Just have some patience. XDA always brought a solution. For doubtful - check HTC HD forums...I forgot about my 2 phones, but development is still kicking!
Just that waterproofing IP 68 anybody?
P.S. You can swipe with mousepad, in android, just not 2 finger like manual is promissing.
I got mine today and I love it, but there are things (mostly software) that are bafflingly annoying... I got this device with the idea I could utilize Netflix's offline downloading feature only to find out it's not compatible... wtf... fail...
I got mine about three weeks ago and I'm quite happy with it. I "forgot" my work laptop in my office before Xmas and I was able to survive with my Yogabook (LTE version) so far. Android MS Office apps work sufficiently well for me. VPN and Citrix Terminal Client do their job. I only use my apps in full window mode because the task bar does the job for me. Yes, it's very basic but ok for me.
I had a lot of stability issues in the beginning. I figured out that most of the apps were installed on the 128 GB sd card by default. After moving all (no exceptions) apps to internal storage, there were no crashes anymore. I already used this solution for another Android device with lots of crashes.
It took a while to get used to the keyboard but it is possible to do 10 finger typing at medium speed after some training. I just had to switch off the word completion feature because it began to drive me crazy.
After watching some Youtube videos from an artist who uses his Yogabook as a professional drawing device, I even became motivated to try it out myself. Before I just used the pen to take some notes in Evernote. It's actually quite some fun to use it for drawing and I had to buy the add-on stuff of the ArtFlow app.
Yes, it's annoying that it is not possible to download stuff to the tablet via the Netflix app. Amazon, Spotify, and Maxdome download content works well, however, in offline mode. The HDMI output to an HD TV or a projector looks good, too. Both for video streaming and Powerpoint presentations.
In summary, I'm quite happy with it ... even as an unplanned replacement for my work laptop ...
the drawing surface work with other apps or just the lenovo drawing app? for example Adobe sketch
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the drawing surface work with other apps or just the lenovo drawing app? for example Adobe sketch
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It works great with Sketchbook, Infinite Painter, Layer Paint. However somehow most brushes do not work with Corel painter.
I personally find drawing on Yogabook to be more responsive and less alggy than compared to my Samsung 10.1 2014.
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It works great with Sketchbook, Infinite Painter, Layer Paint. However somehow most brushes do not work with Corel painter.
I personally find drawing on Yogabook to be more responsive and less alggy than compared to my Samsung 10.1 2014.
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I used so far without issues: ArtFlow and ArtRage for Drawing, Evernote and Lenovo Note Taker for handwritten notes, Ez PDF for annotating pdf documents.
For my purposes, the pen is very accurate and responsive. In ArtFlow the pen pressure dependent line thickness and color intensity work very well.
Small addition. It survived nasti drop from table height in the office, rough terrain (PC, table legs, chair legs).
Ugly dent in metal and some scratches. That is a drawback of metal build! Glass glass will shater or survive without evidence.
BUT IT WORKS no problem at all!
Stupid question
How to @ on the Halo keyboard?
Shift + @
So yesterday I bought the tab 7+ and super excited, untill I met a friend who told me the iPad pro is much better! He showed me a bench mark video where iPad beats the tab on every aspect.
So my question, shall I open the tab7+ or return it for iPad? And why?
What's more relevant is how the benchmarks translate into real world performance for normal tasks. There are also other factors to consider. I own an iPad Pro and I hate not having expandable storage. The iPad Pro is also more expensive and requires spending another $100+ on a pencil. S7+ has a better screen. iPad Pro doesn't have Dex OS features, etc.
Why would anyone switch a fully customizable tablet with something that's locked has less ram and has a worse screen Is the question. Benchmarks are meaningless when important factors come into place also they don't translate much in the real world.
sanvara said:
What's more relevant is how the benchmarks translate into real world performance for normal tasks. There are also other factors to consider. I own an iPad Pro and I hate not having expandable storage. The iPad Pro is also more expensive and requires spending another $100+ on a pencil. S7+ has a better screen. iPad Pro doesn't have Dex OS features, etc.
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My other issue is that the apps on iPad are more compatible than on Android tablets in general. Bench mark is usually what makes a device more reliable in the future or as I understood from my friend. Which means in a year time the tablet still perform as new where the tablet gets laggy over time. Please correct me if I am wring
mhnasr said:
My other issue is that the apps on iPad are more compatible than on Android tablets in general. Bench mark is usually what makes a device more reliable in the future or as I understood from my friend. Which means in a year time the tablet still perform as new where the tablet gets laggy over time. Please correct me if I am wring
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You're wrong. Samsung devices lag over time has been a thing of the past for awhile now. YouTube has many videos comparing the two.
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mhnasr said:
My other issue is that the apps on iPad are more compatible than on Android tablets in general. Bench mark is usually what makes a device more reliable in the future or as I understood from my friend. Which means in a year time the tablet still perform as new where the tablet gets laggy over time. Please correct me if I am wring
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I have more apps on my Tab S7 than i do on my ipad pro even the apps that dont support tablets i can optimize them to work how i want them to. You can't do that on an Ipad.
My tablet has been running for a month now never lagged once.
Ok then that's solve it.. I will open my box and if experienced any lag I will hunt you down :silly:
No seriously, thank you
mhnasr said:
Ok then that's solve it.. I will open my box and if experienced any lag I will hunt you down :silly:
No seriously, thank you
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bro it has a 865+ you dont need to worry about performance for at least 2 years.
i have ipad 6th gen and ipad air2 and in my opinion ipad os is too annoying because i hate when i dont have proper access to the file system. secondly expandable storage need i say more? lastly i just hate apple products , i have ipads macbook and iphone i am in the eco system but whenever i want to do any sort of file sharing with windows or android devices which i also have then it gets sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo annoying makes me wanna burn apple products down .
long story short dont worry about your tablet . you'll enjoy it
In short, I'd say Samsung/Android gives you choices, Apple doesn't. Some people hate to have choices, some can't do without. You decide what is important for you.
I like to have choices, and I am very happy with the Tab S7+.
mhnasr said:
So yesterday I bought the tab 7+ and super excited, untill I met a friend who told me the iPad pro is much better! He showed me a bench mark video where iPad beats the tab on every aspect.
So my question, shall I open the tab7+ or return it for iPad? And why?
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IPhones and iPads always do much better than Android devices in benchmarks but in real world use the Android counterparts perform faster in speed tests. Comparing my Tab S7+ to the iPad, it's actually faster and just as smooth as the iPad pro. It also has numerous Advantages over the IPad pro.
- Has Micro SD card support
- Comes with a stylus right out of the box
- Unlike the Apple pencil the S Pen doesn't not need to be charged to work (only needs a charge for Bluetooth/gesture functions)
- Tab S 7+ is more functional right out of the box
- Screen looks better than IPad
I could go on.
I got the S7+ last Saturday and I'm very happy. In my country, Samsung's having promotion which give away the keyboard cover. So I just need to buy SD card and hub to make it a perfect laptop.
I've just used S7+ for some minor gaming, emulator + Word + Excel + PPT + Ecosia...
Believe in me, the S7+ will not make you feel you'in in jail like iPad Pro
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Why would anyone switch a fully customizable tablet with something that's locked has less ram and has a worse screen Is the question. Benchmarks are meaningless when important factors come into place also they don't translate much in the real world.
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My Tab S7+ had 6 GB ram, the iPad Pro has 6 GB ram.
Also people choose Apple over Android mostly because of the eco system. If you already have an iPhone and/or Mac it makes more sense to go with an iPad as everything fits better between devices.
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bro it has a 865+ you dont need to worry about performance for at least 2 years.
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The 865+ can't even play League of Legends: Wild Rift on ultra with a locked 60 fps, I had framedrops down to 50-52 in fights. My three and a half year old iPad Pro 2017 (A10X chip) never drops one frame. Same for Call of Duty Mobile, Pubg Mobile and other games. Yes the 865+ is nice, but at least in gaming performance it's worse than the A10X, leave alone the A12X / A12Z (iPad Pro 2018/2020) .
congusto said:
In short, I'd say Samsung/Android gives you choices, Apple doesn't. Some people hate to have choices, some can't do without. You decide what is important for you.
I like to have choices, and I am very happy with the Tab S7+.
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Yes, having choices is aweseome. I actually wanted to change from my 2017 iPad Pro to the Tab S7(+) because the screen aspect ratio is wider (16:10) and with apps I can change it to 16:9 and output that via hdmi. Unfortunately both the S7 and the S7+ can not output hdmi without disconnecting every few minutes (the developers know about it but who knows when it is fixed... weeks, months?).
stondec100 said:
IPhones and iPads always do much better than Android devices in benchmarks but in real world use the Android counterparts perform faster in speed tests. Comparing my Tab S7+ to the iPad, it's actually faster and just as smooth as the iPad pro.
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I had the Tab S7, Tab S7+, iPad Pro 2020 and iPad Pro 2017 here. The S7's are on par with the 2017 iPad Pro, a bit faster in quite some apps, slower in most demanding games. The S7's stand no chance in performance heavy tasks against the 2020 iPad Pro. App/game load times, heavy duty video rendering the S7's get demolished.
I understand 90%+ of all people using their tablet will not need that extra performance or even notice they are missing it (you only really notice when you compare the devices side by side)
mhnasr said:
So yesterday I bought the tab 7+ and super excited, untill I met a friend who told me the iPad pro is much better! He showed me a bench mark video where iPad beats the tab on every aspect.
So my question, shall I open the tab7+ or return it for iPad? And why?
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Even tho I kind of "rambled" about how the iPad Pro in fact IS faster (not "better") it all depends what YOU want to do with it.
- Do you watch a lot of movies/series on your tablet? Any "dark" content will look better due to the OLED display on the S7+ (for example the series Daredevil or Punisher... sooo many night scenes). Also the 16:10 screen aspect ratio is nicer for watching video in my opinion
- Do you game a lot? If yes, HEAVY games? Do you care about having ultra quality? Then the iPad Pro is MUCH more capable and will be enough for at least 1-2 more years to come. If you don't play the heaviest games or don't need ultra quality in every game then the Tab S7+ will do just fine!
- Do you want to expand storage with a SD card? -> Ipads can't do that
- Do you surf the web a lot? The iPad Pro's screen aspect ratio feels a lot better for me doing that.
- Do you hold your tablet a lot in your hand for long periods of time? If yes, the S7+ is ~70 grams lighter compared to the 12.9" iPad Pro. This doesn't sound like too much but you will notice it quite a bit after some time
I have iPad air 3 (2019) previusly an iPad air1. Along 5 Years only with iPad and a Lot of Android phones.
Always i say: the best tablet Is an iPad with ipadOS, but now i bought a tab S7,
With only 24hours of use i say:
- multimedia, this Samsung S7 rocks, 16:10, 4 speakers Is really clear.
- multitasking: Snapdragon and 6gb ram runs everything, multitask with 4 apps in the same time Is really great, dex option mindblow my mind.
- the fast charge 2.0 with 45w Is mindblow!!.
- Google services, Chromecast
- APKs (jejeje)
- i connect a sdcard reader direct to the USB C Port.
- i put +256gb with a microsd card for 25usd (cybermonday)
But, not everything Is ok:.
- games, graphics sucks, the resolution of cod and pubg sucks!.
- multigestures, in iPad in have a Lot of usefull gestures, with 4 fingers i can change apps, minimize, Run the last apps running, etc.
- iPadOs Is the best Tablet OS, i can Run a side (Edge) app in Mobile version.
- i can control volumen from the taskbar without the fisical buttons.
Galaxy TAB S7+ has one of the worst screen you can put in a tablet because it has PWM and burned highlights, I have the S7 and is miles away better screen than S7+, for gaming the iPad I think is much better than the Android ones, for the rest I prefer Android and the S7 that is excelent for the use I do and doesn't hurt my eyes like my phone with the crappy oled screen with PWM.
On my tab smart view doesn't work it will not cast to my TV my phone connects first go but not this tablet and no one seems to know why.
mhnasr said:
So yesterday I bought the tab 7+ and super excited, untill I met a friend who told me the iPad pro is much better! He showed me a bench mark video where iPad beats the tab on every aspect.
So my question, shall I open the tab7+ or return it for iPad? And why?
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I swapped an iPad Pro 12.2 for this Samsung, and I'm sorry I did. Had I known in advance that there was no earphone plug on the Samsung, I'd not have made the swap at all. So my answer is: return it.
valkaizer2594 said:
bro it has a 865+ you dont need to worry about performance for at least 2 years.
i have ipad 6th gen and ipad air2 and in my opinion ipad os is too annoying because i hate when i dont have proper access to the file system. secondly expandable storage need i say more? lastly i just hate apple products , i have ipads macbook and iphone i am in the eco system but whenever i want to do any sort of file sharing with windows or android devices which i also have then it gets sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo annoying makes me wanna burn apple products down .
long story short dont worry about your tablet . you'll enjoy it
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I have often wondered exactly how to describe the MAIN is with an iPad (my iPad Pro is a wonderful device and the Magic keyboard makes it even better BUT) proper access to the file system literally annoys me almost EVERY time I use it. Saving photos or files from another device or camera, files from an email, a PDF it just annoys the CRAP out of me. And the point is nailed home EVERY time I ask my 29yo iOS fanboy ..... “if you had this situation, how would you do it (like saving a file)” ..... watching him fumble convinced me that although overall the iPad is ready to use the proper access to the file system is an almost deal killer
If you never use a PC and only use Mac then staying in the same ecosystem with the iPad might be enough to learn the other way but if you still use a PC then the iPad will be a good device but for me always leaving me wanting