I'm curious to hear other Nexus 10 owner's observations on the Chromebook. Do you think it's in the same league with the Nexus or am I just comparing 'apples to oranges'?
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I'm curious to hear other Nexus 10 owner's observations on the Chromebook. Do you think it's in the same league with the Nexus or am I just comparing 'apples to oranges'?
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Apples to oranges honestly. Chrome books are typically very cheap netbooks with very limited software and hardware. Sort of a very cheap version of a macbook air without the form factor, slimness or software. The one time I used it I was amazed at how limited you are.
The chrome book pixel on the other hand is the single sexiest bit of industrial engineering I have ever seen. Unfortunately its still running that chrome OS. Honestly, I can see paying $250 for a chrome book even with how limited it is because its so affordable. The pixel on the other hand I can't see being worth it at all. As beautifully crafted as it is, the OS is just too limited to be worth the $1200. If it was running something like Mac OS or Windows 8 (touch input) I could see myself wanting one.
Hell I have both. Its not a computer replacement but it depends what your looking to get out of it. If your primary concern is work I'd say chrome book if you are using it for play then N10 hands down. It is apples to oranges but they're both great devices
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Apples to oranges honestly. Chrome books are typically very cheap netbooks with very limited software and hardware. Sort of a very cheap version of a macbook air without the form factor, slimness or software. The one time I used it I was amazed at how limited you are.
The chrome book pixel on the other hand is the single sexiest bit of industrial engineering I have ever seen. Unfortunately its still running that chrome OS. Honestly, I can see paying $250 for a chrome book even with how limited it is because its so affordable. The pixel on the other hand I can't see being worth it at all. As beautifully crafted as it is, the OS is just too limited to be worth the $1200. If it was running something like Mac OS or Windows 8 (touch input) I could see myself wanting one.
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Thanks for the very informative response.
I've had my 10 for a couple of months now & have yet to find a decent keyboard so I can use it as a semi-replacement for my laptop. I just want to use it to access files on my network occasionally to edit, etc, but not lose the tablet experience, if you will.
I purchased the Nexus at Staples & I have the option of returning it, no questions asked, if I chose to do so.
Bottom line, based on what you've described, it sounds like the CB is much more limited than the Nexus in terms of usability, correct?
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Hell I have both. Its not a computer replacement but it depends what your looking to get out of it. If your primary concern is work I'd say chrome book if you are using it for play then N10 hands down. It is apples to oranges but they're both great devices
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Please see my response to "NickTheMajin". I'm not looking for a total laptop replacement; just a nice tablet/laptop hybrid but not for all of the things one might get in a fully loaded laptop.
That said, I do love the Nexus. I think the issue of a very powerful keyboard is what I need to retain it.
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Please see my response to "NickTheMajin". I'm not looking for a total laptop replacement; just a nice tablet/laptop hybrid but not for all of the things one might get in a fully loaded laptop.
That said, I do love the Nexus. I think the issue of a very powerful keyboard is what I need to retain it.
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For your use I would really recommend two things. Either the Microsoft Surface or waiting and seeing if a new Transformer tablet comes out. At this point I would not recommend the Asus Transformer Pad Infinity, its really not that good of a tablet and has a ton of performance issues. But Asus will likely release another tablet in its transformer line this year.
Based on what you said the best for you is a windows 8 tablet hybrid. I would not get surface I tried both RT and Pro and its OK but keyboard sucks big time. I would suggest you get the lenovo thinkpad helix. It is similar to Asus transformer but much more powerful and windows 8 coming out in April.
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Unfortunately its still running that chrome OS. Honestly, I can see paying $250 for a chrome book even with how limited it is because its so affordable. The pixel on the other hand I can't see being worth it at all. As beautifully crafted as it is, the OS is just too limited to be worth the $1200. If it was running something like Mac OS or Windows 8 (touch input) I could see myself wanting one.
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Not sure if it was mentioned yet or not, but Chromebooks (afaik) are "open", as in, you can install any compatible OS. ARM-based Chromebooks are a bit more limited on other OS options, in comparison to x86 Chromebooks.
Issue is the hard drive space is crap on chrome book most have 16gb not enough IMO.
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Not sure if it was mentioned yet or not, but Chromebooks (afaik) are "open", as in, you can install any compatible OS. ARM-based Chromebooks are a bit more limited on other OS options, in comparison to x86 Chromebooks.
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I was not aware of this. Could you theoretically put Windows 8 on the Chromebook Pixel? Because that would actually make me consider getting one to supplement my desktop. $1200 is steep but the build quality of the thing is more than worth it if I can put software in it that is useful.
I love my nexus 10 and I was going to purchase a Samsung chromebook but the only thing that stopped me was not being able too run adb and fastboot and hook it up to my phone ....so I replaced the hard drive in my old HP lap top and installed Ubuntu 13.04 on it ....unless something has changed when I was looking at the chrome book about a month ago there wasn't a way to install the platform tools without having to do a million things I wanted something simple but oh well :good:
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I'm curious to hear other Nexus 10 owner's observations on the Chromebook. Do you think it's in the same league with the Nexus or am I just comparing 'apples to oranges'?
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N10 and the Samsung Series 3 ARM Chromebook are nearly the same in speed.
Look here for more info: https://plus.google.com/communities/105678482604512626671
You can also install Ubuntu on this machine and run it simultaneously with ChromeOS.
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I was not aware of this. Could you theoretically put Windows 8 on the Chromebook Pixel? Because that would actually make me consider getting one to supplement my desktop. $1200 is steep but the build quality of the thing is more than worth it if I can put software in it that is useful.
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You should be able to. I have a beta version Chromebook (cr-48) and I was able to install Windows 8 on that. Google even had a tutorial on their development site, so I'm sure you can do that with the newer Chromebooks.
Thanks to all for the great advice! At this point, I think that I'll hold onto my 10 & get a really robust keyboard. Speaking of, I've seen several. Top 3? May at least drop by a store to see a CB for the heck of it.
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Can Chromebooks ADB connect to phones? That is my only sticking point on pulling the trigger on a Chromebook.
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Thanks to all for the great advice! At this point, I think that I'll hold onto my 10 & get a really robust keyboard. Speaking of, I've seen several. Top 3? May at least drop by a store to see a CB for the heck of it.
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Since you're going to keep the Nexus 10, I recommend this keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLE...&sr=8-1&keywords=zagg+flex+Bluetooth+keyboard
The stand it comes with is terrible and mine was torn out of the box. I bought it for the keyboard though and could care less about the stand since I'm using a case with a build in stand. To keep things nice and portable without going with a full size keyboard is say this is one of the best options, especially for the price. Other options were up to twice the cost.
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You should be able to. I have a beta version Chromebook (cr-48) and I was able to install Windows 8 on that. Google even had a tutorial on their development site, so I'm sure you can do that with the newer Chromebooks.
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I had a CR-48 too, was pretty awesome Particularly liked that it supported UEFI.
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Can Chromebooks ADB connect to phones? That is my only sticking point on pulling the trigger on a Chromebook.
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No idea on ChromeOS (although with Linux at the base, I imagine it should be possible to some extent), but if you load another OS onto the Chromebook, then yes.
I have a Samsung Series 3 Chromebook and I just ordered a Nexus 10. I know I can't speak from experience, as I don't have the 10 yet, but I plan to use each in conjunction with another - the 10 for light browsing on the couch, reading (I.e. Flip board, pocket, ebooks), playing games (I have ps3 controllers so it should work out well) and since I'm also a student, using it as a notebook with a stylus, going through PowerPoints and reading textbooks.
The Chrome book, as mentioned by someone earlier is moreso a work machine. To be honest, its fairly slow in my opinion, but that's essentially a given with the current price point. However, both the track pad and keyboard work extremely well, and are comparable to that of a Macbook Pro.
Honestly I'm questioning how I will use the Chrome book, now that I have a Nexus 10, a case with a stand and a great Bluetooth keyboard (apple keyboard), but I still think it would be nice in terms of actual browsing or doing work
Also, I don't feel limited at all with the Chromebook. All my document needs are taken care of by Google Drive (with 100gb of extra storage when you buy a chrome book), I have both Google tasks , Google calendar, MightyText (SMS from from computer) and Chime (notifications extension), and if theres anything I desperately need to do, I have Chrome Remote Desktop. I don't know if ADB is possible on the Chrome book , as I don't use it. But, you can always sideload Ubuntu. Finally, the chrome book has amazing battery life and has Netflix support so there's not much more I could ask for $250
Just my 2 cents
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Since you're going to keep the Nexus 10, I recommend this keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLE...&sr=8-1&keywords=zagg+flex+Bluetooth+keyboard
The stand it comes with is terrible and mine was torn out of the box. I bought it for the keyboard though and could care less about the stand since I'm using a case with a build in stand. To keep things nice and portable without going with a full size keyboard is say this is one of the best options, especially for the price. Other options were up to twice the cost.
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I quickly checked this out on Amazon & the latest reviews were along the lines of 'wish they would make this for the Nexus, etc' IYO, what makes this keyboard stand out for the Nexus 10 specifically?
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I quickly checked this out on Amazon & the latest reviews were along the lines of 'wish they would make this for the Nexus, etc' IYO, what makes this keyboard stand out for the Nexus 10 specifically?
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Not sure what people mean by "wish they would make this for the nexus" but it's just a good, solid keyboard overall. Granted, I don't have a lot of experience with a lot of other keyboards, but I'm not searching for another since I got this one. My case came with a cheap keyboard (I have the Poetic case/keyboard combo) and it needed replacing, that's when I looked at reviews and decided on the Zagg.
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This is a great video about the design and thoughts behind the Nexus 4 & 10. At 09:20 onwards you can see the official cover for the Nexus 10.
http://goo.gl/p6Qbf
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i really like it. i think what they are doing is in the right track.. i dont have any tablets yet so easily this will have to take my money
Yep. I've actually been wondering whether I would be better off with a Nexus 7, but come to think of it since I carry a tablet as a replacement for a laptop I'll just use my phone when I need a smaller, lighter screen for in bed or whatever.
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Yep. I've actually been wondering whether I would be better off with a Nexus 7, but come to think of it since I carry a tablet as a replacement for a laptop I'll just use my phone when I need a smaller, lighter screen for in bed or whatever.
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Yeah, know what you mean....I said I wasn't going to get a tablet (i'm in college don't want/need to spend the money) , howeverrr I would much rather carry this around instead of my 15" Gateway laptop. An OTG cable and flashdrive i'm set with storage + cloud/wifi. The only thing is I wish there would be a microUSB slot. :-I The price wants me to forget that though...haha
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Yeah, know what you mean....I said I wasn't going to get a tablet (i'm in college don't want/need to spend the money) , howeverrr I would much rather carry this around instead of my 15" Gateway laptop. An OTG cable and flashdrive i'm set with storage + cloud/wifi. The only thing is I wish there would be a microUSB slot. :-I The price wants me to forget that though...haha
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tablet can't replace a laptop yet...
I mostly use a tablet for surfing, read comic and documents lol
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tablet can't replace a laptop yet...
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Depends largely on what you need laptop for when you go outside with it. If for browsing - tablets are even better than laptops at it. My laptop haven't left home since I bought my first tablet.
I wonder is this has a big update to Chrome, as rumoured?
@rookiegenius Personally, a tablet with a physical keyboard will do what I need for school.
I know what you mean..but the big thing is the battery would probably last 2-3 times what my laptop would.
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tablet can't replace a laptop yet...
I mostly use a tablet for surfing, read comic and documents lol
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Which is precisely what I use a laptop for... there isn't much else to do on a laptop, really, unless you want to pay an extortionate price for a laptop that doesn't suck. Fo a lot of things that can only be done right now on a laptop, it's just down to the company that makes the program not having clocked on to the huge mobile market... for example, the tablet version of Photoshop can do a surprising amount of stuff. You also have AIDE for app developing, and there's probably a HTML/PHP/etc editor out there on Play somewhere, I haven't really looked. The main apps that don't exist in any real substantial form are 3d modelling, video and music/sound editing software (anyone think Blender might hit ARM?). Otherwise you're all good to chuck out the laptop for a tablet. The convenience far outweighs the losses, IMO.
Oh, and there isn't a real decent office suite, but Google ought to be working on it with Drive.
I think something like the Surface Pro could easily replace a laptop in all categories. The only problem is the premium laptop price that comes with it. Google has really stepped it up with the new Nexus devices though.
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I think something like the Surface Pro could easily replace a laptop in all categories. The only problem is the premium laptop price that comes with it. Google has really stepped it up with the new Nexus devices though.
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Yeah, I mean a tablet can't replace a laptop until it has a fully functional fan, right?
But really, there is no room for mechanical parts in this digital era. The Pro sounds awkward in just about every way as far as portability goes. I don't really like the idea of an x86 tablet either, I think it's just Intel desperately clinging on to their business. All we need are ARM apps which do what we're missing from x86.
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As a sys admin and developer I use Unix/Linux at work. Android is Linux and with some proper apps and utils installed, I have a full shell command line. I can connect to the corporate network and having shell I'm able to perform a lot of daily tasks with my GalaxyTab. No need to carry my notebook all the time. I'm going to order N10/32G (screen resolution plus performance) and hope, a docking station with a usable keyboard will be available soon
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As a sys admin and developer I use Unix/Linux at work. Android is Linux and with some proper apps and utils installed, I have a full shell command line. I can connect to the corporate network and having shell I'm able to perform a lot of daily tasks with my GalaxyTab. No need to carry my notebook all the time. I'm going to order N10/32G (screen resolution plus performance) and hope, a docking station with a usable keyboard will be available soon
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I doubt you will see something like that, except in the unlikely event that this thing takes off and gets loads of custom made accessories. You'll probably have to prop it against a wall and use Bluetooth.
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I doubt you will see something like that, except in the unlikely event that this thing takes off and gets loads of custom made accessories. You'll probably have to prop it against a wall and use Bluetooth.
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Yes, bluetooth is an alternative. I use b-t keyboard with my current tablet, but don't like the battery drain. On-screen keyboard covers too much, so maybe with the higher resolution will be also acceptable.
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Hello Guys...
How much is the total Video time on Nexus 10?
I keep hearing that this is not a bargain like the $199 Nexus 7 or $309 Nexus 4 but it really is.
First, you are getting the highest resolution mobile screen EVER. Second, the dual core A15 is the first of its kind if you don't include the chromebook and will not be used in most mobile devices until mid 2013 at least. Third, they managed to make it only 8.9mm thin, something that Apple couldn't do for the new ipad's. Four, it is one of the only 3 devices running Android 4.2. All that for $399.
It is a steal and in some ways even more of a bargain than the other two.
Ignore this post if you are aware, this is for the people that can't see why this is any different than all the other 10 inch Android tablets.
Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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I have both devices. They are a good combination. But every app on Nexus 10 looks better.
For some reason I find myself on my dad's iPad 4 rather than my Nexus 10. Apple is def doing something right.
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I have the n7 and the n 10 ipad2 and just sold my galaxy tab 7.7.
Not all apps look better on the N 10. For example the Engadget app does not scale, yet.
Out of all the tablets i have owned the n7 is the best. However I am getting the note 2 on Monday and I suspect it will be my go to device, then the n 10, and finally my laptop.
Another couple of years and they will have finally have a tablet that can be used for work and play, not there yet.
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sabre31 said:
Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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The point is that the Nexus 10 does web browsing, the main use of a tablet for most, bigger and sharper and has the horse power to push it extremely smoothly.
No one says I have a cell phone, what is the point of a 55 inch TV, my apps look the same on it. Why would anyone say that here?
10 inch is the sweet spot like Steve Jobs said in my opinion. Laptop is too clunky and the Nexus 7 and Note are too small. That is my opinion.
To me, an android phone is the best (love my S3 to death). But for a tablet, iOS is the best. I decided to return my nexus 10 since Im not patient enough. I got frustrated with apps on the nexus 10. Apps do not look good and run well on the nexus for now (this will be fixed, of course). But apps for ipad are also much better. ALso never think more pixels are better. WHat matters is its contrast and color accuracy. More pixels only drain the battery.
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Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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actually apps will look different on the nexus. specificly, they look worse since they haven't been optimized for high resolution screen .. yet
These arguments are pretty pointless. The notion that there must be a one great almighty device that trumps all seems silly to me. They're both great, just buy which one fits your needs. Its a tablet you use to watch YouTube, its not a big deal.
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There is no denying that the iPad 4 is the best all-around tablet out there - build quality, performance, smoothness, tablications, battery life, everything is cool. I'm buying the Nexus 10 however because:
- better bang for the buck, the $100 it's cheaper can be use for the surely coming keyboard dock
- 16:10 - if you're not watching video content why even go for 10", the AR is a nice compromise between 16:9 and 4:3
- Adobe Flash - be honest, you'll miss live streaming and all the flash-based content, and it's not going away anytime soon, N10 runs it well
- extras: higher res screen, NFC, USB-OTG possibilities (media play without root), front-facing quality speakers, lighter weight
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- 16:10 - if you're not watching video content why even go for 10", the AR is a nice compromise between 16:9 and 4:3
- Adobe Flash - be honest, you'll miss live streaming and all the flash-based content, and it's not going away anytime soon, N10 runs it well
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I don't agree with these two points. I bought a 10 inch tablet mainly for Web browsing. My note 2's size is just fine for videos but not for heavy web browsing.
And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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Flash is a dying/dead platform on Android, so no big loss there IMHO. And the sooner it's gone completely, the better it is - Flash had its place but today it's just a bloated and very dangerous piece of crap software.
Of course you would make a thread like this lol. The moderators must be getting tired of closing these things...
Who gives a flying frack what the app "looks" like!! Does it do what it is supposed to do? Does it do it fast? Do movies look better than just about anything else out there? Is the sound great compared to most tablets? Is the resolution higher than ANY tablet out there?
Personally I am about getting **** done with a tablet, you can have your pretty apps, because I already got my **** done, and ran 17 more apps while you are "oooh'ing and ahh'ing" over how pretty your apps are...
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are purely my own, don't expect you to or even care if you agree, move along :good:
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I don't agree with these two points. I bought a 10 inch tablet mainly for Web browsing. My note 2's size is just fine for videos but not for heavy web browsing.
And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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you don't have to agree. personal opinions are just that. personal opinions. sideloading or not, i'm not quite sure of the difference. apps are apps. we all use them. so whether or not you have to install an app to get something to work the way we want it doesn't really take anything away from the devices we choose. some cars have ugly rims on them when we buy them from the dealer. we buy and put custom wheels on them. your "point" is moot at this point. but an ipad or buy a nexus 10. who cares.
Nexus 10 is so big it doesn't matter how thick it is within reason. Actually, I would've preferred they gave it a bigger battery for longer life unplugged.
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Flash is a dying/dead platform on Android, so no big loss there IMHO. And the sooner it's gone completely, the better it is - Flash had its place but today it's just a bloated and very dangerous piece of crap software.
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Yes Nexus10 is awesome, but I'm a little bit desapointed by Android 4.2 regarding "no flash player" I know the reasons but currently I cannot benefit from web TVs I planned to watch with my new tablet (Orange TV, Canal+, Pluzz...).
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I don't agree with these two points. I bought a 10 inch tablet mainly for Web browsing. My note 2's size is just fine for videos but not for heavy web browsing.
And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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I agree CreepyDroid. I tried to sideload the apk and to use other browsers without success. I would apreciate to read a good step by step link
Thank in advance.
Tomatoes8 said:
I keep hearing that this is not a bargain like the $199 Nexus 7 or $309 Nexus 4 but it really is.
First, you are getting the highest resolution mobile screen EVER. Second, the dual core A15 is the first of its kind if you don't include the chromebook and will not be used in most mobile devices until mid 2013 at least. Third, they managed to make it only 8.9mm thin, something that Apple couldn't do for the new ipad's. Four, it is one of the only 3 devices running Android 4.2. All that for $399.
It is a steal and in some ways even more of a bargain than the other two.
Ignore this post if you are aware, this is for the people that can't see why this is any different than all the other 10 inch Android tablets.
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i am really disappointed from google now! say what ever any body wants to say against me, i dont care cause reality aint gonna change!
i am a Samsung Boy... everything i own is from samsung (electronics ofcourse)
in my point of view, Google is a Huge company, Bigger than Apple. google can produce tablet oriented apps! YES IT CAN! i dont really dont find not more than like 10 apps that are ESPECIALLY made for my tablets! i owned Nexus 7, sold that cause of lag in browser, Now i own NOTE 10.1!
an Excellent Tablet! but No Apps!
when i was in search of good tab i had to choose between iPad 3 and Note 10.1 and i went for Note 10.1 cause i love Google but i AGAIN got disappointed! not from the tablet, but the SOFTWARE SUPPORT AND APP AVAILABILITY!
i am thinking of getting Nexus 10 but i am keeping my self away from the idea of getting it cause of app support!
mark my words, THERE WILL BE NO APPS FOR NEXUS 10 AT LEAST NOT FOR THE NEXT 3 TO 4 MONTHS!
Apple is only better in APP support and software support than google! GOOGLE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! WHEN U CAN ACTIVATE MILLIONS OF DEVICES EVERY DAY WHY NOT THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT THEM! DONT TELL ME ITS DIFFICULT FOR GOOGLE! ITS A BILLIONS OF $$ COMPANY!! AND HECK IT HAS SUPPORT OF MONSTER COMPANIES LIKE SAMSUNG, LG, HTC AND OTHERS.....!!!
google is destroying its image in minds of customers like me, who change their gadgets very frequently!
accept it or not dude! u can not deny the reality! SMARTPHONES IS ANDROID THING NOW, TABLETS ARE APPLE THING NOW... and only for the fact of no app and software support!
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Flash is a dying/dead platform on Android, so no big loss there IMHO. And the sooner it's gone completely, the better it is - Flash had its place but today it's just a bloated and very dangerous piece of crap software.
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On the INTERNET, Flash is by far the most popular video format... and until HTML5 has agreed on a format that Chrome Firefox IE Safari Opera etc can agree on, flash video is still the choice for many web designers. If you are interested in seeing that content, you can either get flash a capable browser, or not see the video... crap or not.
I am a uni student and I need a nice tablet to make notes, record lectures, and read documents with. I am into games too but barely have time to play. I want something that will be useful two years from now. I am big on performance and graphics.
With no potential to attach a keyboard, is it really worth the money for a student ? How long will it take before this becomes out dated ?
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You can attach a keyboard. Buy a bluetooth keyboard. It'll hook right up in less than a minute.
I can't guarantee the quality of this thing, but bluetooth keyboard cases exist.
http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Keyboard-Tablet-Leather-Function/dp/B009Z3OY6Y/ref=pd_sbs_pc_12
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I am a uni student and I need a nice tablet to make notes, record lectures, and read documents with. I am into games too but barely have time to play. I want something that will be useful two years from now. I am big on performance and graphics.
With no potential to attach a keyboard, is it really worth the money for a student ? How long will it take before this becomes out dated ?
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http://amzn.com/B0054L8N7M
1 example. Search "Bluetooth Tablet Keyboard" on Amazon or whatever your site of preference is for others.
Nice...I hope by DEC 26 I'll be able to get it in Toronto.
Let's say I have a document open is it easy to highlight with my fingers ? Nexus 7 is attractive but with 1gb of Ram I just can't ponder it. And battery life ? Decent ?
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e Nexus 7 is a powerful enough device with 1gb RAM which only sounds insufficient due to the 2gb devices that have come out(nexus 10). You could also consider the Asus Transformer series as you can get a keyboard dock with a built in battery and a full sized USB port, also a micro SD card slot but you won't get the vanilla android experience and timely updates like you will on the Nexus. It depends on what you prefer. Hope that helped.
Sidneymac said:
I am a uni student and I need a nice tablet to make notes, record lectures, and read documents with. I am into games too but barely have time to play. I want something that will be useful two years from now. I am big on performance and graphics.
With no potential to attach a keyboard, is it really worth the money for a student ? How long will it take before this becomes out dated ?
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Most tablets don't have specific keyboard attachments made by the manufacturer; Asus is the exception, if you think you need a keyboard, check out the Transformer series of tablets. I owned an Asus Tf700 tablet w/ the keyboard dock and IMO found the keyboard too small for accurate/quick typing. Instead, I use a Wacom Bamboo stylus and digitally "handwrite" my notes using two apps; 7Notes & Evernote. 7Notes is a keyboard replacement for handwriting text and actively converts your writing to typed text; in combo w/ Evernote, I love it. At the end of the day I have clean, organized & typed notes saved in the cloud on my Evernote account.
Me? I have a laptop w/ normal sized keyboard for typing; I bought my tablet for just that..a tablet lol.
My reasons for getting the N10:
- Pure Google/Android experience & almost instant updates. (2 yrs use is absolutely achievable w/ a Nexus device)
- Great specs & design doesn't look anything like an iPad + the display is gorgeous.
- And of course school; this includes taking notes as I'm also a college student.
Also, Highlighting text is pretty straight forward & easy for copy/paste actions.
I said to 1gb referring to the nexus 7. And using Bluetooth as a keyboard would kill battery. I'm on my phone will get to my desktop soon and research. I love the bonus power from the Asus tho.
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I have the exact same requirement too. I plan on reading docs, books, making notes and watch movies/tv shows occasionally. I plan on getting the nexus 10 seeing as it has the best screen res amongst all android tablets, thereby making reading books like harrisons medicine more convenient.
That being said, I will probably sell the N10 and order a Note 10.1 2 with a full HD display the moment it becomes available(at some point in the future). From what I've seen, the productivity on a note is unparallelled amongst android tabs.
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I have the exact same requirement too. I plan on reading docs, books, making notes and watch movies/tv shows occasionally. I plan on getting the nexus 10 seeing as it has the best screen res amongst all android tablets, thereby making reading books like harrisons medicine more convenient.
That being said, I will probably sell the N10 and order a Note 10.1 2 with a full HD display the moment it becomes available(at some point in the future). From what I've seen, the productivity on a note is unparallelled amongst android tabs.
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True ... Hopefully I can get $320 when I sell it.
Guys there are talks of not enough apps meant for tablets... What is Google doing about this ? And battery life.. how is it ?
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Waiting game is hard, but be strong and wait till CES comes around. For a student, having a Wacom stylus is a must and N10 simply doesn't fit the bill. Like a previous poster said, lets hope they release higher-res followup to the Note.
May be just may be ASUS will wake up and add stylus to the Transformer line (TF1000 ?
The jury is out on Windows 8 RT - it is DOA ... darn shame, as MS Note is the best note taking app ever, period. Sammy has 2 Windows 8 tablet out (Ativs) out, but too many folx are complaining about quirky stylus, battery life doesn't even come close to android tablets or Ipad ... Surface Pro will suffer from the same short @ss battery life.
It is sad state of affairs in the tablet market, as far as students are concerned ... will probably take another year for the ultimate tablet to emerge.
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Waiting game is hard, but be strong and wait till CES comes around. For a student, having a Wacom stylus is a must and N10 simply doesn't fit the bill. Like a previous poster said, lets hope they release higher-res followup to the Note.
May be just may be ASUS will wake up and add stylus to the Transformer line (TF1000 ?
The jury is out on Windows 8 RT - it is DOA ... darn shame, as MS Note is the best note taking app ever, period. Sammy has 2 Windows 8 tablet out (Ativs) out, but too many folx are complaining about quirky stylus, battery life doesn't even come close to android tablets or Ipad ... Surface Pro will suffer from the same short @ss battery life.
It is sad state of affairs in the tablet market, as far as students are concerned ... will probably take another year for the ultimate tablet to emerge.
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Exactly..I plan on buying the N10 when I go to the US in Janary. I won't be taking it if there is an announcement of a new Note at CES(which is unlikely, considering its only been a couple of months since they brought out the Note).
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Guys there are talks of not enough apps meant for tablets... What is Google doing about this ? And battery life.. how is it ?
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Battery life is fantastic. And in regards to "not enough apps for tablets", there's really nothing Google can do about that. That's up to app developers, not Google.
Not to mention, that Android tablets never reeall had the issues other tablets had.. most scale perfectly, and you wouldn't know they aren't for tablets (this goes for things like many games, web browsers, office aps, etc) . Those that do have problems are normally quick to get updates... frankly, the the issue is really overrated ..
I'm a student and I have been using it to study, although not take notes. I would not recommend this for taking notes because of the lack of the palm guard. Makes it very difficult and awkward to take notes on. As other posters have said, get the Galaxy Note 10.1 if you would like to take notes seriously. However, the Note 10.1 I ultimately decided against because the screen resolution got terrible reviews and I am huge on that, also the vanilla Android experience was too much for me to say no to. I really enjoy my Nexus 10 so far, and can get over the fact that there is no palm guard. Its a great device for the price overall
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Guys there are talks of not enough apps meant for tablets... What is Google doing about this ? And battery life.. how is it ?
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Google has been doing its best to try and motivate and encourage the developers to create more tablet optimized apps. Read this...
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-wants-to-see-better-tablet-apps/
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I think I'm going to wait then.. since its only good for studying. No network connectivity is an issue too since most of the apps I use need the net. No stylus.. Sucks the N7 only has 1gb of Ram which means lag. No tab for me then.. at least for now. Screen reviews are amazing tho ...speed and screen size suggest longevity. Bluetooth keyboard is attractive but I'm not sold. No SD, and No Network. Hard to spend $400 plus on it.
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I think I'm going to wait then.. since its only good for studying. No network connectivity is an issue too since most of the apps I use need the net. No stylus.. Sucks the N7 only has 1gb of Ram which means lag. No tab for me then.. at least for now. Screen reviews are amazing tho ...speed and screen size suggest longevity. Bluetooth keyboard is attractive but I'm not sold. No SD, and No Network. Hard to spend $400 plus on it.
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If you don't think the N10 is worth $400, you have a rude awakening coming when you see how much comparable tablets are in the marketplace, especially ones with stylus support out of the box!
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I think I'm going to wait then.. since its only good for studying. No network connectivity is an issue too since most of the apps I use need the net. No stylus.. Sucks the N7 only has 1gb of Ram which means lag. No tab for me then.. at least for now. Screen reviews are amazing tho ...speed and screen size suggest longevity. Bluetooth keyboard is attractive but I'm not sold. No SD, and No Network. Hard to spend $400 plus on it.
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Is definitely hard to beat for many aspects but this tablet just isn't right for you, I can respect that although you may ultimately be displeased with other tablets for reasons that the nexus 10 excels in. I do think you ought to look into the note 10.1 if you are most concerned about note taking. Good luck finding the right gadget sir or madam
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I am the owner of a gnex, nex 7, and note 2. I am aware of the the huge difference in th screen resolution. But i can image the features with the s pen on a tablet must great. So i ask you... What would you do? Maybe i can get the apps working on the nexus after a little work. Thoughts?
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I had s2, then gnex, then s3 & now a nexus 4. I had a note 10.1 WiFi +3g version (gt-n8000). My fiancé has a nexus 10. I thought I could get past the note's poor screen resolution, but in reality, I really couldn't. I looked at a nexus 4 screen & my fiancé's nexus 10 & then at my note & was pretty bothered by it all.
If you can get past the resolution, my next issue was software/updates. To be honest, having a nexus has spoiled me. I love vanilla android. I do not like manufacturer skins. I love knowing that even if my hardware is a bit out of date, I will still have the newest software... Not the case with the note. Again, these are minor issues that I hoped to not care about but learned that I did.
I have since sold my note in order to pay some deposits that are due for my upcoming wedding. I don't miss it. I have been tossing around picking up a used nexus 7 eventually, but over all the note 10.1 left me wanting more. I spent a nice chunk on it when it was first available & thought I would love it. Sold it for a nice bit of money, as well.
This turned out longer than i thought. Hope this helps.
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Hi, sully112277, I am in the same boat as you, but without owning a previous android device. Here is a thread with helpful opinions, features, and a poll about the Nexus 10 and the GNote 10.1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2093177. Hope this helps, and hope you find the right device.
I bought the Note originally. I was moving from an iPad with the retina display. So the difference in resolution was just too much. So, I took it back and got the nexus 10. As much as I enjoyed the pen and related apps, the higher resolution was worth the trade off. I guess it really depends if you want the stylus. In my humble opinion, aside from the stylus, the Nexus is superior in every way.
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I'm getting the note 10.1.
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Getting the latest android updates when released: Priceless
It's gonna make your device feel 'newer'for longer, also open source devices has more Dev support
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LOL, The resolution on the 10.1 is not bad...at all. Compared to a retina display or the Nexus 10 display, it's no contest. However, it's not bad on the Note 10.1.
note 10.1 hands down. i choose that one over the nexus 10 just got it last week and i LOVE it! i can do soo many more things on the note than i ever could on the nexus. sometimes..screen's just not everything and mind you the screen display colours and contrast levels on the note 10.1 is very much satisfying!
What killed it for me was getting the Note 10.1 1st then the others. I buy them all and see what I like. Not all at once. I just tried the new Toshiba SE with the Tegra 1.6. Was not faster then my note but almost dead even on allot. I understand its a cheap model. It had awful blacklight bleed, the note had very rich colors. Getting my Win 8 to see it.. never happen.
Asus/Nexus 10 awesome high rez.. For me you take the high rez away whats left. If I wanted high rez I would buy the new Ipad that have more apps/games that support it. And then trying to get a Asus/Nexus 10 with NO blacklightbleed.. should not be that hard. 1st Samsung perfect screen.
Just try them dont just take a reviews word. So Note hands down. Nexus is awesome but just vanilla. Its the silly things I like.. split keyboard, change font look, the white menus etc. Things I am sure you can ADD to the others and some you have to root 1st.
Thanks guys... I love getting the updates first like everyone else but half the time they are buggy and unsupported for months. When i made the switch from my gnex to note i went from 4.2 to 4.1 but surprisingly i didnt miss it at all. The note 2 is an absolutely amazing phone. Never happier with an android purchase since I started all the way back to the t-mob G1. I always unlock and root so i can edit the ui as please if i go for the note 10.
So far i think thats where I am leaning but my decision is not final yet. Thanks for all your advice again and lets not forget... Both are great devices. I am sure i will be happy with my purchase as I always am.
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sully112277 said:
Thanks guys... I love getting the updates first like everyone else but half the time they are buggy and unsupported for months. When i made the switch from my gnex to note i went from 4.2 to 4.1 but surprisingly i didnt miss it at all. The note 2 is an absolutely amazing phone. Never happier with an android purchase since I started all the way back to the t-mob G1. I always unlock and root so i can edit the ui as please if i go for the note 10.
So far i think thats where I am leaning but my decision is not final yet. Thanks for all your advice again and lets not forget... Both are great devices. I am sure i will be happy with my purchase as I always am.
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Samsung wins all around wether you have a Note 2 and Note 10.1 or the N10. Samsung made them all lol. I agree the Note 2 is an amazing phone and was one of the reason I chose the N10 over the Note 10.1. I use the N10 for mostly play and Note 2 for productive things. If I need to view a documnet or pdf tho the N10 handles that with no problem. Anything that requires serious work I use my 3 screens connected to my desktop pc as it's best for serious productivity. In the end each person will choose what works best for them in a given situation. Even though the N10 has a very nice screen the 10.1 has a pretty nice one also, even if it's a lower resolution.
My favorite thing to do so far with the N10 is to play emulated games with the controller it's a pretty nice experience. The android games run very well also, so basically I have a pretty big portable gaming device. The PS vita is like $300 plus with no killer games and a lower game resolution. You can basically by a tablet of any size of choosing and turned into a gaming device and still have the abilites to surf the net, stream movies, play music and other apps. My son has a few handheld portables and I after I gave his mother my samsung epic and he saw the games he didn't even wanna play with the portables much.
I do miss not having the extra space a full blown laptop would have but with OTG cable I'm able to hook up my usb thumbdrives or my 1tb external hard drive. So it all works out in the end. Plus I have 50gb dropbox storage and I haven't even used the google drive yet. Plus with my note 2 if I ever need to grab something real quick I can hotspot if no Wifi and download the items. Most likely I will already have the big stuff on a flash drive with me.
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Samsung wins all around wether you have a Note 2 and Note 10.1 or the N10. Samsung made them all lol. I agree the Note 2 is an amazing phone and was one of the reason I chose the N10 over the Note 10.1. I use the N10 for mostly play and Note 2 for productive things. If I need to view a documnet or pdf tho the N10 handles that with no problem. Anything that requires serious work I use my 3 screens connected to my desktop pc as it's best for serious productivity. In the end each person will choose what works best for them in a given situation. Even though the N10 has a very nice screen the 10.1 has a pretty nice one also, even if it's a lower resolution.
My favorite thing to do so far with the N10 is to play emulated games with the controller it's a pretty nice experience. The android games run very well also, so basically I have a pretty big portable gaming device. The PS vita is like $300 plus with no killer games and a lower game resolution. You can basically by a tablet of any size of choosing and turned into a gaming device and still have the abilites to surf the net, stream movies, play music and other apps. My son has a few handheld portables and I after I gave his mother my samsung epic and he saw the games he didn't even wanna play with the portables much.
I do miss not having the extra space a full blown laptop would have but with OTG cable I'm able to hook up my usb thumbdrives or my 1tb external hard drive. So it all works out in the end. Plus I have 50gb dropbox storage and I haven't even used the google drive yet. Plus with my note 2 if I ever need to grab something real quick I can hotspot if no Wifi and download the items. Most likely I will already have the big stuff on a flash drive with me.
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Sorry, but hardcore gaming on Android sucks. There are no killer games. And PS Vita running at lower res doesn't matter, its actually good because it can concentrate more on textures, reflections, water effects and so on.
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Asus/Nexus 10 awesome high rez.. For me you take the high rez away whats left. If I wanted high rez I would buy the new Ipad that have more apps/games that support it. And then trying to get a Asus/Nexus 10 with NO blacklightbleed.. should not be that hard. 1st Samsung perfect screen.
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The nexus 10 is Samsung not Asus
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I hardcore game on my pc I built. I never said the word hardcore when describing gaming on the nexus 10. And the Vita still doesn't have a game that's worth the money they are asking for and that's the point I was making in comparison to buying a tablet for all the features they provide.
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Im looking for a tablet to replace my laptop and nexus 7 (2012)
My work load will be videos (On occasions) youtube, some light gaming, word processing (With keyboard) web browsing, spotify.
I am a student so it will be for work mostly with it all backed up to google cloud, for films I will OTG them over to the device so I don't use onboard storage.
I was looking at the Tab S 8.4 but I love Nexus and been very up to date.
So what is the battery life like for the Nexus 9 under a medium work load using office stuff, when I am gaming I will be near a plug.
So should I get a Nexus 9 or the Tab S?
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I only used Word on my N9 for a short time, but it works okay. Many 365/2010 features are absent on the Android version, so I'm not sure if it would replace your laptop usage. With my light usage 8hrs was the max I ever saw, when using it frequently 5-6.5hrs of SOT was typical. One thing you should consider is the battery life of your current laptop, as well as compatibility with whatever programs.
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My usage for word is light, using google docs mostly and the battery life on my laptop on light use is at best 4 hours so nothing amazing I never feel truly portable
XDroidie626 said:
My usage for word is light, using google docs mostly and the battery life on my laptop on light use is at best 4 hours so nothing amazing I never feel truly portable
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I would go with a surface pro 3 instead of a nexus 9. I own both.
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My usage for word is light, using google docs mostly and the battery life on my laptop on light use is at best 4 hours so nothing amazing I never feel truly portable
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Well the N9 will be able to last more than that for word.
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I would go with a surface pro 3 instead of a nexus 9. I own both.
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A Surface is more expensive AND larger than a N9, don't think he wants such a device. The experience of using either as a tablet differs too, since Android is a lot more user friendly in that regard.
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I would go with a surface pro 3 instead of a nexus 9. I own both.
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Out of my price range im affaid
Amazon UK doing the 16GB version for £199 today click here
I would definitely recommend getting a Nexus 9. However, something to keep in mind is that it was released about 8 months ago and the two previous Nexus tablets, namely Nexus 7 (2012) and Nexus 7 (2013) were released about 1 year apart. This means that there may be a new Nexus tablet in about 4 months. Of course, Nexus 9 was released 4 months "late" so if Google does that again you may have at most 8 months, so Nexus 9 has already reached its half-life.
Whether you care about this or not is your choice, but it's something to keep in mind. I personally never buy or recommend anyone to buy a product that's reached its half-life.
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Well the N9 will be able to last more than that for word.
A Surface is more expensive AND larger than a N9, don't think he wants such a device. The experience of using either as a tablet differs too, since Android is a lot more user friendly in that regard.
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He's looking to replace his tablet and laptop. I think everybody knows how to use a windows computer.
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You can find a decent surface pro for $400 or so. A Nexus 9 will run $300.
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I tend to end up rooting my devices within 12 months so cyanogen mod should keep me floating for a few years, Google updates will do fine for a while, but I was also recently looking at the nvidia shield while it is cheaper, it also has as card support, hdmi and the other game things, so what would be supporting argument for n9, I love the nexus line but nvidia just seems to offer a bit more, but I love the Denver processor in the n9 also the screen and Google support
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performance and battery life are pretty poor for such a beast of a device. i haven't tried M, so i can't say if it'll help. spend $200 on a lenovo tab 2 a10-70. they're not top of the line but seem to be good bang-for-the-buck devices. the ONLY reason why i haven't gotten one for myself is b/c they don't make the multiangle slim folio cases for it yet. i won't buy a device that doesn't have one made for it, lol.
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He's looking to replace his tablet and laptop. I think everybody knows how to use a windows computer.
You can find a decent surface pro for $400 or so. A Nexus 9 will run $300.
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I never said he couldn't use Windows - just that the experience of each device differs, which is true. Both devices have been operated by me, and I wouldn't suggest each to the same person, nor do I encourage iPad users to buy a Surface either.
8" Android tablet =/= 12" x86 Hybrid
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Surface pro also has a 10" device. A Nexus is far from replacing a laptop, but a surface pro can be used as a tablet, computer, note taking device (student), and run Android apps (bluestacks, myandy, etc..). I own a Nexus 9 and only use it for entertainment. I own a surface pro 3 (12 inch), and I do all of my school work on it. I write and record my lecture notes, highlight keypoints on pdf and other type of files, type (surface keyboard) documents on Google drive, use split screen to watch YouTube videos while I finish a document, and save my videos/pictures on a microsd card. The surface pro is such an amazing and productive device for a student.
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performance and battery life are pretty poor for such a beast of a device. i haven't tried M, so i can't say if it'll help. spend $200 on a lenovo tab 2 a10-70. they're not top of the line but seem to be good bang-for-the-buck devices. the ONLY reason why i haven't gotten one for myself is b/c they don't make the multiangle slim folio cases for it yet. i won't buy a device that doesn't have one made for it, lol.
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For which device?
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if you're referring to the one i won't buy b/c i can't find a case... it's the lenovo tab 2. i've got the nexus 9 with a slim folio case.
the lackluster performance and battery life are the nexus 9 remarks. 5.1.1 did address the ramping up of the gpu and cpu to full speed when touching the screen, but it's still ramping up pretty high compaired to my galaxy note 10.1 2014. you'd figure being a more powerful device wouldn't have to draw so much power when interacting with it. using a custom rom and tuning the cpu and gpu down does yield better battery life, but at the cost of performance - it starts stuttering. i haven't tried undervolting or even checking if that was an option with the rom i'm using. that way i can keep the performance without sacrificing battery life. as it is, i get 7-8hours of use depending on how much i touch it. reading a book or watching a video can get me almost 10hours since i don't touch it much while doing those tasks.
just to clarify, the performance isn't from the cpu or gpu, but with the memory management. it just doesn't seem to get it right... i get screen redraws when i change tabs while browsing, i have to use a memory killer in order to not have it lock up daily... it's issues i had when i used a device with only 512MB of ram.
So would you say get the shield tablet over nexus 9
The shield is powerful but has issues of its own. While it has a mSD slot, you have to jump through hoops to get it to barely work. Apps cannot write to it directly. Nvidia is not very good yet at getting the basic features working properly. P.S. I have the shield tab.