Downgrading from Oreo to stock MM? - Moto Z Questions & Answers

Hello, is it possible to downgrade to stock MM rom directly from Oreo,or it has to be downgraded to NN first and then to MM ? I dont care about OTA updates and i wont use them,does it mean i can safely downgrade my android version without fear of bricking the device?
Thanks in advance !

svetaz11 said:
Hello, is it possible to downgrade to stock MM rom directly from Oreo,or it has to be downgraded to NN first and then to MM ? I dont care about OTA updates and i wont use them,does it mean i can safely downgrade my android version without fear of bricking the device?
Thanks in advance !
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hi dude, i am not a developer, just want to share my experience, i couldnt even revert it back from oreo to nougat, people say it has different bootloader, so as long as you receiving oreo from OTA, i doubt you and i will stay at this goddamn slow **** oreo os until someone figure it out how to downgrade our firmware. see you :fingers-crossed:

bluenetters said:
hi dude, i am not a developer, just want to share my experience, i couldnt even revert it back from oreo to nougat, people say it has different bootloader, so as long as you receiving oreo from OTA, i doubt you and i will stay at this goddamn slow **** oreo os until someone figure it out how to downgrade our firmware. see you :fingers-crossed:
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And if the stock oreo flash custom? Can anyone on any?

bluenetters said:
hi dude, i am not a developer, just want to share my experience, i couldnt even revert it back from oreo to nougat, people say it has different bootloader, so as long as you receiving oreo from OTA, i doubt you and i will stay at this goddamn slow **** oreo os until someone figure it out how to downgrade our firmware. see you :fingers-crossed:
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I guess im still waiting then

Unreal_man said:
And if the stock oreo flash custom? Can anyone on any?
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If you find the way, please post it here

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Cyanogenmod 14 downgrade to 13 help?

Hi there! So, recently I upgraded to Cyanogenmod 14 from 13 and I also upgraded from Android M to N. I'm not happy with the new update, and I'd like to downgrade back to M and to CM 13. Does anyone know how to do this without bricking the phone? I'd like to not end up with a paperweight. Thank you! Also, I have an LG G4
SortelOne said:
Hi there! So, recently I upgraded to Cyanogenmod 14 from 13 and I also upgraded from Android M to N. I'm not happy with the new update, and I'd like to downgrade back to M and to CM 13. Does anyone know how to do this without bricking the phone? I'd like to not end up with a paperweight. Thank you! Also, I have an LG G4
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Clean flash CM13.
Just wipe it before flashing...
PalmCentro said:
Clean flash CM13.
Just wipe it before flashing...
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Would that downgrade me back to Android MM at the same time? Or would I flash that from the LG Flash Tool?
SortelOne said:
Would that downgrade me back to Android MM at the same time? Or would I flash that from the LG Flash Tool?
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Flashing CM13 will give you a MM ROM.
PalmCentro said:
Flashing CM13 will give you a MM ROM.
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Right, but I'm not on marshmallow. Will it break my phone if I attemp to load a marshmallow rom on a nougat device?
PalmCentro said:
Flashing CM13 will give you a MM ROM.
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Oh! Just kidding, I understand now Sorry if I'm being a pain, but would you happen to have the last CM13 nightly for LG G4? If not that's no big deal, I'll poke around some more until I can find it
SortelOne said:
Right, but I'm not on marshmallow. Will it break my phone if I attemp to load a marshmallow rom on a nougat device?
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No. It won't
SortelOne said:
Oh! Just kidding, I understand now Sorry if I'm being a pain, but would you happen to have the last CM13 nightly for LG G4? If not that's no big deal, I'll poke around some more until I can find it
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There's a lot G4 variants, I can't help you without knowing which one you have.
In any case you can just find it on the official CM page....
PalmCentro said:
There's a lot G4 variants, I can't help you without knowing which one you have.
In any case you can just find it on the official CM page....
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All the CM13 downloads are gone from the official website, but I found a version I already used on my device, so we're good! Thank you so much for your help!

Downgrade Moto Z Android 7.0 To 6.0

Hi, got this phone for 1 month now used MM for 2 weeks then updated to Nougat but I didnt like it. Now I want to downgrade to MM is it possible with RSD Lite? If yes how? If no will factory reset solve battery drain, awfull notifications, over heating problems?
How did you upgrade? If you updated the bootloader to the N version, I'm not sure if you can revert back to MM.
OTAs are the Evil. :silly:
Updated via OTA. I could downgrade Samsung S4 isnt it possible with Moto Z? I did hard reset, downloaded my apps then closed my phone and charged it. I don't know what happened while phone was booting but it wasn't %100 battery charge btw. This battery life is killing me..
I'm sure you are not able to get back to Marshmallow because the OTA installs a new bootloader that is incompatible with the original Marshmallow
lollyjay said:
I'm sure you are not able to get back to Marshmallow because the OTA installs a new bootloader that is incompatible with the original Marshmallow
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So I have to wait for fix eh
Which version did you apply?
If you updated to Nougat via OTA, there is currently no safe and simple way to downgrade back to Marshmallow as the OTA also updates the bootloader, meaning that Nougat is the oldest OS that is supported on that bootloader.
That's why I unlocked the bootloader on mine and used the technique outlined in the following thread. Not only do you get a perfectly working Nougat OS but also allows you to keep the old bootloader should you decide to downgrade to Marshmallow.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/development/android-nougat-moto-z-versions-t3506342
D13H4RD2L1V3 said:
If you updated to Nougat via OTA, there is currently no safe and simple way to downgrade back to Marshmallow as the OTA also updates the bootloader, meaning that Nougat is the oldest OS that is supported on that bootloader.
That's why I unlocked the bootloader on mine and used the technique outlined in the following thread. Not only do you get a perfectly working Nougat OS but also allows you to keep the old bootloader should you decide to downgrade to Marshmallow.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/development/android-nougat-moto-z-versions-t3506342
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If I do this method to upgrade to nougat, will I still be able to use android pay?
wilder_mason said:
If I do this method to upgrade to nougat, will I still be able to use android pay?
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Android Pay detects not only root but also unlocked bootloader.
So in other words, no android pay guys
D13H4RD2L1V3 said:
If you updated to Nougat via OTA, there is currently no safe and simple way to downgrade back to Marshmallow as the OTA also updates the bootloader, meaning that Nougat is the oldest OS that is supported on that bootloader.
That's why I unlocked the bootloader on mine and used the technique outlined in the following thread. Not only do you get a perfectly working Nougat OS but also allows you to keep the old bootloader should you decide to downgrade to Marshmallow.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/development/android-nougat-moto-z-versions-t3506342
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It seemed too hard for me.. This is my first "almost" stock android experience I'm confused with fastboot commands etc.. I think i'll stay with stock android for a while..
tjk639 said:
Which version did you apply?
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This is it. Hope you can find what you asked mate
Orangley said:
This is it. Hope you can find what you asked mate
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Ah, I was hoping you had the first release of N. But it looks like you have the current one.
If someone reveals easy and safe way to downgrade please tag me I don't have much time to check forums
Nougat upgrade OTA leaves you in a tough position
My new Moto Z took an update from stock MM to Nougat 3 days after I got it. Stupid me, I should not have accepted the OTA update. But I did. And you cannot go back to MM because the update contains a new bootloader that makes it a one way trip.
Search my other posts in the last few days to see that you are not totally prevented from unlocking and rooting. But unlocking the bootloader leaves a trail forever because a solid state fuse gets tripped forever.
tjk639 said:
Ah, I was hoping you had the first release of N. But it looks like you have the current one.
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What version is the first release of nougat that allows downgrading? :victory:
Did not downgrade
i23u8 said:
What version is the first release of nougat that allows downgrading? :victory:
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I did not downgrade from 7.0.
I unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone with twrp 3.xx and then used phh's Superuser.
But I must admit that I have not loaded a third party ROM yet. I want to load stock 7.1.1 when Motorola releases it in February or March.
Question would it be possible to use RDS light or the program at the beginning of this form to unlock set bootloader and then proceed to route

Need stock Image and recovery

Hello,
i have installed a custom rom on my Moto z but now I want to get back to stock Rom. I really cant find the stock 7.1.1 Image and recovery anywhere, can someone please upload a backup of his system image, Recovery etc. so I can go back to stock.
NoCreativeUsername said:
Hello,
i have installed a custom rom on my Moto z but now I want to get back to stock Rom. I really cant find the stock 7.1.1 Image and recovery anywhere, can someone please upload a backup of his system image, Recovery etc. so I can go back to stock.
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You didn't even try.
Look here.
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/griffin/official/
Defaultnickname said:
You didn't even try.
Look here.
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But this is Android 6.0.1, can I flash this or will it brick my Phone beaucause of the new bootloader?
NoCreativeUsername said:
But this is Android 6.0.1, can I flash this or will it brick my Phone beaucause of the new bootloader?
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Nope. This problem will be if you try to downgrade from 7.x.x. Upgrade should be painless. Also you can choose any channel. It will be work, but without ota`s updates.
I`ve installed retus on retcn. All working, except otas. Maybe in oreo smthng changes.
Also remember, you doing at your own risk. If you don`t fully understand what you doing - don`t do it. (Google it before )
Defaultnickname said:
Nope. This problem will be if you try to downgrade from 7.x.x. Upgrade should be painless. Also you can choose any channel. It will be work, but without ota`s updates.
I`ve installed retus on retcn. All working, except ota`s. Maybe in oreo smthng changes.
Also remember, you doing at your own risk. If you don`t fully understand what you doing - don`t do it. (Google it before )
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But at this moment I am using erfan rom with 7.1.1 Base, isnt it a downgrade when I now Install the Image you send?
NoCreativeUsername said:
But at this moment I am using erfan rom with 7.1.1 Base, isnt it a downgrade when I now Install the Image you send?
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Not really. As far as I know, bootloader problem shows up when downgrade from 7.x.x to 6 or 5.
Defaultnickname said:
Not really. As far as I know, bootloader problem shows up when downgrade from 7.x.x to 6 or 5.
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Okay, is this also a problem when In have updated to 7.x.x from 6.x.x via ota?
NoCreativeUsername said:
Okay, is this also a problem when In have updated to 7.x.x from 6.x.x via ota?
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If you do not fully understand the meaning of your actions and their consequences maybe you shouldnt do it?
No, it`s not a problem.
Defaultnickname said:
Not really. As far as I know, bootloader problem shows up when downgrade from 7.x.x to 6 or 5.
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Well, isn't it exactly what he meant? He has a 7.1.1 system, and the only version on that site was 6.0.1, so basically he will have problems with downgrading from 7 to 6, right?
calinorg said:
Well, isn't it exactly what he meant? He has a 7.1.1 system, and the only version on that site was 6.0.1, so basically he will have problems with downgrading from 7 to 6, right?
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Uhm, on that site you can choose any ROM you want. Reteu stuck on 6, so, technically, you right.
Also check
https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto Z/Stock/
Maybe these ROMs will satisfy your taste.

Android 8.0 For SM-N950F Dump SySTEM ByDjRaz

Hello Guys im come back and today i have succes to take out Android Oreo For Note 8 Exynos Finnaly...
((((How i Get Oreo?
Download This Firmware
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-note8/SM-N950F/XEF/download/N950FXXU3CRC1/211628/
Flash By Odin And Did First Config after Go In Software Update And Take Out Oreo..))))
:good: uP Only For Normal User To Take The Update:good:
"""Here I Dumped all Os Oreo For Developer Only To Do Custom Rom:"""
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cw6WfS6hBmoYNPvXOQyTkyedPctvN3rJ
OS INFO:
R16NW.N950FXXU3CRC1
PDA=N950FXXU3CRC1
CSC:XEF
INFO: I Share here my Way To Get Ota And file for who want like developer to port oreo like custom rom.
i don't assuming any risk if someone did wrong steps or use this file inproperly..
Guys added link samsung firmware from where you can download direcly Xef Android 8.0
Best Regards
DjRaz
Is there any way to get the OTA update if I'm rooted?
No. If you are rooted you can use only custom rom based on oreo and for note 8 n950f are only port s9 by lam1990.
Here i share file and tutorial.info for who want normal.ota and dumped system for developer to use for future custom rom
galaxynote2 said:
Is there any way to get the OTA update if I'm rooted?
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no
please share OTA.zip
alex393 said:
Hello Guys im come back and today i have succes to take out Android Oreo For Note 8 Exynos Finnaly...
((((How i Get Oreo?
Download This Firmware
https://de.samsungbay.com/download-firmware/?download=107961
Flash By Odin And Did First Config after Go In Software Update And Take Out Oreo..))))
:good: uP Only For Normal User To Take The Update:good:
"""Here I Dumped all Os Oreo For Developer Only To Do Custom Rom:"""
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cw6WfS6hBmoYNPvXOQyTkyedPctvN3rJ
OS INFO:
R16NW.N950FXXU3CRC1
PDA=N950FXXU3CRC1
CSC:XEF
INFO: I Share here my Way To Get Ota And file for who want like developer to port oreo like custom rom.
i don't assuming any risk if someone did wrong steps or use this file inproperly..
Best Regards
DjRaz
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Is there a way for you to share the OTA.ZIP.
thanks
galaxynote2 said:
Is there any way to get the OTA update if I'm rooted?
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If You have N950F(Exynos) then You just have to flash stock firmware with Odin and You will be able to get OTAs.
any info about oem issues?
ProtoDeVNan0 said:
If You have N950F(Exynos) then You just have to flash stock firmware with Odin and You will be able to get OTAs.
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Even if the device was rooted?
xxiForza said:
Even if the device was rooted?
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Yes.
But IMO not worth going through all that, it's all hype by people always wanting the latest possible. Oreo is not that much different. I'm rooted also & I'll be waiting for my favorite custom rom to be released in Oreo rather than going back to stock & take the OTA.
shouren04 said:
Yes.
But IMO not worth going through all that, it's all hype by people always wanting the latest possible. Oreo is not that much different. I'm rooted also & I'll be waiting for my favorite custom rom to be released in Oreo rather than going back to stock & take the OTA.
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No, you don't get ota's when your device was rooted
matze19999 said:
No, you don't get ota's when your device was rooted
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Yes, you won't get it if it "is". The question was, "was". As ProtoDeVNan0 stated, if you flash back to stock, OTA will work, regardless if you were rooted before & if knox is tripped.
shouren04 said:
Yes, you won't get it if it "is". The question was, "was". As ProtoDeVNan0 stated, if you flash back to stock, OTA will work, regardless if you were rooted before & if knox is tripped.
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didnt know this, thanks
matze19999 said:
didnt know this, thanks
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No problem. To get OTA, Device Status in Settings needs to be Official as well as in download mode Current Binary & System Status. Flashing back to stock fw will take care of that.
shouren04 said:
Yes.
But IMO not worth going through all that, it's all hype by people always wanting the latest possible. Oreo is not that much different. I'm rooted also & I'll be waiting for my favorite custom rom to be released in Oreo rather than going back to stock & take the OTA.
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This!....
Oreo i dumped from my device are same to s8 oreo official.nothing new inside
Third update check first post...
alex393 said:
Hello Guys im come back and today i have succes to take out Android Oreo For Note 8 Exynos Finnaly...
((((How i Get Oreo?
Download This Firmware
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-note8/SM-N950F/XEF/download/N950FXXU3CRC1/211628/
Flash By Odin And Did First Config after Go In Software Update And Take Out Oreo..))))
:good: uP Only For Normal User To Take The Update:good:
"""Here I Dumped all Os Oreo For Developer Only To Do Custom Rom:"""
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cw6WfS6hBmoYNPvXOQyTkyedPctvN3rJ
OS INFO:
R16NW.N950FXXU3CRC1
PDA=N950FXXU3CRC1
CSC:XEF
INFO: I Share here my Way To Get Ota And file for who want like developer to port oreo like custom rom.
i don't assuming any risk if someone did wrong steps or use this file inproperly..
Guys added link samsung firmware from where you can download direcly Xef Android 8.0
Best Regards
DjRaz
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How to get my csc back
Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
Please someone upload the ZIP to MEGA if posible, Sammobile is to slow...
Calvinx1 said:
Please someone upload the ZIP to MEGA if posible, Sammobile is to slow...
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Use SamFirm, Sammobile is only good if you need to download an older firmware.

Should I upgrade to Pie?

Currently using firmware 47.1.A.12.270 with root+drm fix. I'm considering to upgrade my phone to Pie but i'm unsure about its stability. I wanna hear how stable is Pie and is it good to upgrade?
evildog1 said:
Currently using firmware 47.1.A.12.270 with root+drm fix. I'm considering to upgrade my phone to Pie but i'm unsure about its stability. I wanna hear how stable is Pie and is it good to upgrade?
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Since you are already rooted - you could (probably) downgrade... although I am not able to find official firmware for OREO.
My device is 0FCE:01F3 (seems that there is a different version of Sony Xperia XZ1 with id 0FCE:B00B).
I guess that you have nothing against unlocking the bootloader
So in other words: you could try upgrading and see (although way back might be difficult).
As for me... I have accepted the upgrade and I regret that.
Android 9 Pie blocks one feature that is mandatory for me: call recording is no longer possible.
There should be some gesture navigation - it is not present in pie on xz1.
Except that... you should be going into a better direction. I am not sure about root availability for xz1... shouldn't be a problem I guess?
P.S.
I bought this phone only because my previous (it was gt-n910c) had some HW issues with calls. I wanted a phone with NFC and my assumption was I won't root it (to use banking apps without magisk). Now it seems that my calls are flawed and I might need to use magisk+root... and I am not able to physically remove bloatware (especially spyware called fatbook or something like that). Shame on google, Shame on sony.
As your bl is already unlocked download Xperia firm and see if Pie is available in your region, if so download Newflasher (read how to use it), there is a root guide posted here for Pie.
It's in the guide section
evildog1 said:
Currently using firmware 47.1.A.12.270 with root+drm fix.
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By any chance - do you have stock FW for Oreo ? I am no longer able to get it from xperia servers so downgrading is not possible for me...
lilbrat said:
As your bl is already unlocked download Xperia firm and see if Pie is available in your region, if so download Newflasher (read how to use it), there is a root guide posted here for Pie.
It's in the guide section
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I was asking if should upgrade and how stable it was but I will try upgrade anyway lol
Root is easy on unlocked BL phones.
adderek said:
By any chance - do you have stock FW for Oreo ? I am no longer able to get it from xperia servers so downgrading is not possible for me...
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I have downloaded G8341_Customized NOBA_1310-7488_47.1.A.16.20_R24B from XperiFirm which is last version of Oero but never got time to flash.
As I don't use call recording, i'm good to upgrade to Pie.
evildog1 said:
I was asking if should upgrade and how stable it was but I will try upgrade anyway lol
Root is easy on unlocked BL phones.
For me as I have been one of the few that have had the updates since they first started and It has been very stable...
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