Does the Poco F1 have NFC (at least in europe)??? I read somewhere that it doesnt have NFC, which would suck, since Google Pay just started here in Germany...
As far as we've seen specs, they all indicate it doesn't come with NFC, I guess it's a small trade they made for a cheaper phone (small for me since I don't use it)
No NFC. Read the reviews from Android Authority and GSMArena. The Verge also covered the phone.
I don't mind since there are no other SD845 phones under $399. They had to cut corners. NFC and IP cert are usually on the chopping block as far as features go...
No it does not have nfc
People in India don't need NFC. Because we barely use it. In the last five years I never used NFC. Maybe for Europe people their transport system has payments with NFC so they'll face an issue.
rahulkamma14 said:
People in India don't need NFC. Because we barely use it. In the last five years I never used NFC. Maybe for Europe people their transport system has payments with NFC so they'll face an issue.
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I never use NFC for payment. But using NFC for sending files (android beam) or transferring file from old phone to new one (if both support NFC) are pretty neat!
I am still confused. Many places say it doesn't have it but some websites (XDA included) state it does. Could someone verify?
Maybe its possible to Upgrade NFC with a NFC enabled Back Cover. WE need a tear down Video already!
The specs given initially on XDA included NFC. But it handy seems this was not correct - the post has been ammended to state "no NFC", consistent with other reports and hands-on videos I've seen.
I've never come across an external NFC device for any phone. Would be a handy device to have, though it would presumably occupy the usb-c, which in itself would be a PITA
Someone on another forum raised an interesting idea. There were the initial ideas that the F1 might have NFC. It was suggested that either the European version might have NFC or even that all versions might have NFC but that it might not be enabled in the Indian ROM.
To check this, if anyone has an F1, could they please install DevCheck from XDA or Play and just check on the hardware page to verify that NFC hardware is not present.
Thanks a million
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Someone on another forum raised an interesting idea. There were the initial ideas that the F1 might have NFC. It was suggested that either the European version might have NFC or even that all versions might have NFC but that it might not be enabled in the Indian ROM.
To check this, if anyone has an F1, could they please install DevCheck from XDA or Play and just check on the hardware page to verify that NFC hardware is not present.
Thanks a million
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Speaking of the European version, is that a thing yet? Is it possible to get my hands on that from anywhere?
Well bad news, devcheck shows no nfc hardware.
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Well bad news, devcheck shows no nfc hardware.
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Hi Sanjay, that's the case on my Hong Kong / international version too - i think naff47 is asking about the European version (if that's different from the international one - highly doubtful I'd have thought). I read from someone in the Netherlands that it had launched there (it's available on import from China pretty much everywhere), but haven't seen this confirmed.
Time will tell
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Hi Sanjay, that's the case on my Hong Kong / international version too - i think naff47 is asking about the European version (if that's different from the international one - highly doubtful I'd have thought). I read from someone in the Netherlands that it had launched there (it's available on import from China pretty much everywhere), but haven't seen this confirmed.
Time will tell
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Hongkong probably will be made in China, whereas mine is made in India.
Not too sure if there is any other manufacturing facility for our phone
Plus I don't think NFC will add that much to the cost that they will put it in selectively.
The only way to use NFC with the F1 is by getting Samsung S3 Fronier smart watch. That will connect to the F1 and the watch has NFC. I tested it and it works great. You need to use Magisk hide if you're rooted,
There is no NFC built into the Poco.
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The only way to use NFC with the F1 is by getting Samsung S3 Fronier smart watch. That will connect to the F1 and the watch has NFC. I tested it and it works great. You need to use Magisk hide if you're rooted,
There is no NFC built into the Poco.
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Great to hear you've found that setup works!
Just to check, have you managed to write to tags as well as read from them?
I won't be shelling out on a Samsung smart watch, but if that works, there's hope for other smart watches!
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The only way to use NFC with the F1 is by getting Samsung S3 Fronier smart watch. That will connect to the F1 and the watch has NFC. I tested it and it works great. You need to use Magisk hide if you're rooted,
There is no NFC built into the Poco.
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In India an S3 frontier costs more than Poco F1
Exactly!! :laugh:
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In India an S3 frontier costs more than Poco F1
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Who is gonna spend that much and that also in country like India.
but in India we use Mostly Paytm, PhonePe, BHIM UPI etc. apps which are UPI based apps so We don't need NFC must Have.
UPI is the standard way from Indian Government to Pay Digitally even with Low End Phones, and this phone is made accordingly!
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Hello Guys,
I’m considering buying Huawei 10 (NOT Pro), but since it’s not officially available in the countries I spend most my time in (Poland and UK), I’ll have to get it from Chinese shop. Having said that, I have my concerns and I’d be glad if you could walk me through them. My apologies if some on those questions were already answered, but some of the feedback I’ve gather from this forum come from the “early days” of this phone and I don’t know if they are still valid. Let’s get to it:
1) Is the system in Polish language? It might be under “(…) and many more languages” but I’d like to know
2) I should be looking for version L29, correct? Are those “international” versions on sites like https://www.giztop.com/huawei-mate-10.html really international, or just Chinese ones with switched software?
3) My current phone is Oneplus 3 – and I admire the simplicity of almost-stock Android. How much off a detour is MIUI in comparison? Will I have to deal with a lot of bloating in the system?
4) Since there won’t be a version for “big” markets like US and UK – could there be any issues with updates? Will Huawei abandon the support for international version anytime soon – speculatively speaking? Or is it possible for them to introduce this phone to US/UK/PL, but later?
5) I’d be taking 4gb 64gb version, but I’ve been using 6gb phone for a while now – will this “downgrade” be visible in daily use?
6) I’ve seen some complaints about the camera. I understand it’s not “perfect”, but right now I’m using oneplus3+g.cam port from Pixel 2 – so I should still experience a bump in quality, right?
7) I want to buy it from this site https://www.giztop.com/huawei-mate-10.html. Is there any reason I should pick a different one/wait?
Thank you for all your future answers, and apologies for a longer post.
Cheers!
I'm in a similar situation. I'm planning to buy from eBay the international version. The sellers there are based in either France or Ireland, they say they give you a year warranty but crucially you have PayPal protection.
I've seen other sites where a minority of phones never turn up or are broken and it's incredibly hard to get the money back.
DeadOne said:
Hello Guys,
I’m considering buying Huawei 10 (NOT Pro), but since it’s not officially available in the countries I spend most my time in (Poland and UK), I’ll have to get it from Chinese shop. Having said that, I have my concerns and I’d be glad if you could walk me through them. My apologies if some on those questions were already answered, but some of the feedback I’ve gather from this forum come from the “early days” of this phone and I don’t know if they are still valid. Let’s get to it:
1) Is the system in Polish language? It might be under “(…) and many more languages” but I’d like to know
2) I should be looking for version L29, correct? Are those “international” versions on sites like https://www.giztop.com/huawei-mate-10.html really international, or just Chinese ones with switched software?
3) My current phone is Oneplus 3 – and I admire the simplicity of almost-stock Android. How much off a detour is MIUI in comparison? Will I have to deal with a lot of bloating in the system?
4) Since there won’t be a version for “big” markets like US and UK – could there be any issues with updates? Will Huawei abandon the support for international version anytime soon – speculatively speaking? Or is it possible for them to introduce this phone to US/UK/PL, but later?
5) I’d be taking 4gb 64gb version, but I’ve been using 6gb phone for a while now – will this “downgrade” be visible in daily use?
6) I’ve seen some complaints about the camera. I understand it’s not “perfect”, but right now I’m using oneplus3+g.cam port from Pixel 2 – so I should still experience a bump in quality, right?
7) I want to buy it from this site https://www.giztop.com/huawei-mate-10.html. Is there any reason I should pick a different one/wait?
Thank you for all your future answers, and apologies for a longer post.
Cheers!
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1 - I don't know for sure but it should be there !
2 - Yes L29 is the version you should look for ! You can get one from here https://www.ebay.fr/itm/NEUF-HUAWEI...234857?hash=item4b2e0e4729:g:41oAAOSwytJaE9rW that's where I got one for my uncle
3 - EMUI is very customised version of Android but with big possibilities for themes so you should be able to make it look as you want
4 - We can't be sure of anything in that domain ^^ I just left Samsung because of giving update slowly... But for sure as the flagship of the brand it should get update faster than others
5 - It'll not. Some may not agree with me but 4gb of Ram is largely enough today !
6 - As I'm not a professionnal I could not tell ^^ but for sure Mate 10 camera is amazing and will only improve with software update improving AI
7 - As I answered on 2, you can get it from dwi on ebay, I've took 2 phones from them (S7 dual sim and Huawei Mate 10)
I live in the UK and I bought the L29 version, it works fine and you can select the system language when you setup the phone. The only issue I found is HiCloud wouldn't work but I rebranded to the L09 version and everything works
To answer your point 6
I'm also using a ported version of the camera app on my previous phone which is a Xiaomi Mix and the phone is notorious for its very poor camera lens.
It surprises me totally what software can achieve where the hardware fails at.
Even on the ****ty camera, the software managed to capture IMO equal or more details as compared to M10 on the pro mode.
So at the end of the day. Your OP3 having a better lens than the Xiaomi Mix should experience probably equal or maybe seeing a 5 to 10% bump in details.
If there's ever a chance that M10 could have the ported camera from Pixel on our phone I'll definitely be a very happy man.
Hi jay. I too live in the UK and planning the buy the L29. Was the re branding just to get the hicloud? Or were there other features?
Thanks
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Hi jay. I too live in the UK and planning the buy the L29. Was the re branding just to get the hicloud? Or were there other features?
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Yeah it was just so I could use HiCloud, didn't feel like a fully functional phone without it
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Yeah it was just so I could use HiCloud, didn't feel like a fully functional phone without it
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What for this hicloud?
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GunnyHighway82 said:
What for this hicloud?
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It's backup software
Leechoonhwee said:
To answer your point 6
I'm also using a ported version of the camera app on my previous phone which is a Xiaomi Mix and the phone is notorious for its very poor camera lens.
It surprises me totally what software can achieve where the hardware fails at.
Even on the ****ty camera, the software managed to capture IMO equal or more details as compared to M10 on the pro mode.
So at the end of the day. Your OP3 having a better lens than the Xiaomi Mix should experience probably equal or maybe seeing a 5 to 10% bump in details.
If there's ever a chance that M10 could have the ported camera from Pixel on our phone I'll definitely be a very happy man.
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Here you go my friend : https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-016-174405463-android-apk-download/
It's working on my Mate 10 Pro, imo it gives a little bit less blurriness and the photo is clearer in overall, sadly it lacks some features for our phone
Give us some results about photo quality please
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Safe0716 said:
Here you go my friend : https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-016-174405463-android-apk-download/
It's working on my Mate 10 Pro, imo it gives a little bit less blurriness and the photo is clearer in overall, sadly it lacks some features for our phone
Give us some results about photo quality please
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Safe
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Thanks for the link. I'm not referring to the stock Google camera but the exact one on the pixel phone.
https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www...gle-camera-hdr-customization-raw-support/amp/
It is the HDR+ that makes all the difference but sadly Google only enables it for the Pixel phone.
Hey sorry to jack this thread but whats the drawbacks of the Chinese version, bloat ware?? And wouldn't it get updates faster?
Also, wouldn't it be a better idea to buy the AL00.. 128 GB, 6 GB RAM Chinese Mate 10 version if you wanted to keep that 6GB of ram?
I just killed my HTC 10 with water so I'm thinking upgrading to the 6GB ram version would be a better move coming from 4GB. I just wish it wasn't so expensive lol 4GB international version is about $800 CND on ebay..
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Hey sorry to jack this thread but whats the drawbacks of the Chinese version, bloat ware?? And wouldn't it get updates faster?
Also, wouldn't it be a better idea to buy the AL00.. 128 GB, 6 GB RAM Chinese Mate 10 version if you wanted to keep that 6GB of ram?
I just killed my HTC 10 with water so I'm thinking upgrading to the 6GB ram version would be a better move coming from 4GB. I just wish it wasn't so expensive lol 4GB international version is about $800 CND on ebay..
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id like to know this too, also:
so which Huawei Mate 10 Pro 128gb version are you supposed to buy? there's L29 on ebay, L09 on clove uk website. handtec uk HM10P128TG, what's the difference between all of these? dual sim on amazon uk 128gb. L29 on wondamobile international version.
eglobal uk CN version. eglobal prices vary for 128gb version, why is that?
sorry so many questions!
essentially i'd want to root and custom rom, is there really dev support for this, I'm coming from samsung and devs have been a lot etc. im over samsung note series lol...
thx
Does anybody knows any store in USA that have Mate 10? My friend is traveling, at Orlando right now and he will bring to me. I don't know how customs works at USA so I think it's not a good idea to buy at Chinese sites
Cotinho said:
Does anybody knows any store in USA that have Mate 10? My friend is traveling, at Orlando right now and he will bring to me. I don't know how customs works at USA so I think it's not a good idea to buy at Chinese sites
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take it outta the box for customs, this way it looks like it's used. throw the box away
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Jay794 said:
I live in the UK and I bought the L29 version, it works fine and you can select the system language when you setup the phone. The only issue I found is HiCloud wouldn't work but I rebranded to the L09 version and everything works
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i live in the uk, where did you buy yours and how much? thanks
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take it outta the box for customs, this way it looks like it's used. throw the box away
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i live in the uk, where did you buy yours and how much? thanks
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I got mine from eGlobal, its was around £400 IIRC
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I got mine from eGlobal, its was around £400 IIRC
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what the difference between this and the CN? also is this the L29?
https://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/huawei-mate-10-pro-6gb-128gb-dual-sim-mocha-gold.html
it doesn't have a version on it?
entwicklun said:
what the difference between this and the CN? also is this the L29?
https://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/huawei-mate-10-pro-6gb-128gb-dual-sim-mocha-gold.html
it doesn't have a version on it?
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Well that's the Mate 10 Pro, not the Mate 10, the Pro does not have an SD card slot. I don't know what the CN is but the L29 I had was for the Singapore market, so Huawei Cloud didn't work until I flashed the L09 Firmware
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Well that's the Mate 10 Pro, not the Mate 10, the Pro does not have an SD card slot. I don't know what the CN is but the L29 I had was for the Singapore market, so Huawei Cloud didn't work until I flashed the L09 Firmware
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yeah I noticed it's the pro, tbh I wanted the finger scanner on the back. I'm going from a lifetime of sd card to no sd card. feel like I'd need a tutorial on how to go about that and backing up consistently lol....
think I can get away with no SD card
so how come they list an item with no model number?
also can you change the soft key buttons placements? move them into opposite spots etc lol?
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yeah I noticed it's the pro, tbh I wanted the finger scanner on the back. I'm going from a lifetime of sd card to no sd card. feel like I'd need a tutorial on how to go about that and backing up consistently lol....
think I can get away with no SD card
so how come they list an item with no model number?
also can you change the soft key buttons placements? move them into opposite spots etc lol?
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Regarding the model number, no idea maybe use the live chat and ask them lol.
Yes you can change the positions of the on screen buttons
Here are some informations from xiaomi India official Twitter
https://twitter.com/RedmiIndia/status/1147030045216526336?s=09
yes and hopefully more devs pickup the device so we can see roms dedicated for the device.
Abaddon said:
yes and hopefully more devs pickup the device so we can see roms dedicated for the device.
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I heard that India version will be code raphealin, as they have same hardware. Do you think china version (rapheal) and India version (raphealin) will have the universal ROM package? Otherwise, can we flash rapheal to raphealin? I bought a China version before, and I'm afraid of that.
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I heard that India version will be code raphealin, as they have same hardware. Do you think china version (rapheal) and India version (raphealin) will have the universal ROM package? Otherwise, can we flash rapheal to raphealin? I bought a China version before, and I'm afraid of that.
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I think it depends on which bands are unlocked on the phone. I don't know if India and China provider share the same bands? The mi9t has different bands unlocked then the k20.
I think that will be named as anticipated K20 Pro. but they were advertising as k20 pro so who knows. Im just sure that software development wise they'll share the same stuff
I'll wait for reviews from early adopters. I have never owned a Xiaomi device before and I am only inclined towards this because of its AMOLED panel. If the quality isn't as good as OnePlus panels or if the device has issues itself like people faced touch issues on Poco F1, I might skip it completely.
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I think it depends on which bands are unlocked on the phone. I don't know if India and China provider share the same bands? The mi9t has different bands unlocked then the k20.
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They do mostly, you can check their respective band compabilities at kimovil .dotcom
I recon there will be differences when the global version is released, but for China and India they seem to be the same.
Would post link to the website but first 10 posts rule...
SozzR said:
They do mostly, you can check their respective band compabilities at kimovil .dotcom
I recon there will be differences when the global version is released, but for China and India they seem to be the same.
Would post link to the website but first 10 posts rule...
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I've found the info on Kimovil.com to be out of date, though to be fair most sites I've looked at, which provide lte band info, are out of date. It looks like once they've added the info, they never bother to update it when carriers open up more bands on their networks. I now check the info on Wikipedia, it's more work, especially on a phone, as you have to trawl through massive tables to find the data, but the info is normally up to date.
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I've found the info on Kimovil.com to be out of date, though to be fair most sites I've looked at, which provide lte band info, are out of date. It looks like once they've added the info, they never bother to update it when carriers open up more bands on their networks. I now check the info on Wikipedia, it's more work, especially on a phone, as you have to trawl through massive tables to find the data, but the info is normally up to date.
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Thanks again for the quality information
Who's buying the Alpha sale 855 voucher ?
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Who's buying the Alpha sale 855 voucher ?
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I was initially planning to. BUT it is not a pre order. That voucher does not guarantee you early or separate or priority access for buying. And in India it will be very difficult to even buy one once it goes up for sale. It will be out of stock within seconds, thats the problem. And this Alpha sale, will only block your money in a online seller Flipkart or Mi.in . That is useless. I was atleast hoping for a separate access for those who make the payment now.
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Who's buying the Alpha sale 855 voucher ?
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I bought it on mi website
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I was initially planning to. BUT it is not a pre order. That voucher does not guarantee you early or separate or priority access for buying. And in India it will be very difficult to even buy one once it goes up for sale. It will be out of stock within seconds, thats the problem. And this Alpha sale, will only block your money in a online seller Flipkart or Mi.in . That is useless. I was atleast hoping for a separate access for those who make the payment now.
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I HAVe just read the t&c and it says atleast incase of purchase from mi website that only the people with the access pass will be able to purchase the phone on 17th and also that if you dont complete the purchase or the validity has expired your money will be refunded
Doge199 said:
I was initially planning to. BUT it is not a pre order. That voucher does not guarantee you early or separate or priority access for buying. And in India it will be very difficult to even buy one once it goes up for sale. It will be out of stock within seconds, thats the problem. And this Alpha sale, will only block your money in a online seller Flipkart or Mi.in . That is useless. I was atleast hoping for a separate access for those who make the payment now.
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I don't think that's the case. AFAIK only people with Alpha Sale pass will be able to order a unit on the launch date 17 and 18 and all the others can do so post 23rd onwards. If this is the case everyone with the alpha pass should be able to secure a unit without any flash sale.
Let's see and wait for the launch on the 17th, I'll share my experience if I am able to get my hands on the pro :laugh:
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It got released at 28k was expecting it to be 25k. Overpriced. Hadd good expectation from this phone but ... it is better to go for One Plus 7 that has no bloatware, good UI, fast android update and no ADs
Are the adds really that annoying ?
It's been a long since I've used MIUI so asking about it. (been using OP 3T until now...which got broken recently)
ganeshp said:
Are the adds really that annoying ?
It's been a long since I've used MIUI so asking about it. (been using OP 3T until now...which got broken recently)
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Yes it is too annoying. I bought a Redmi note 7 recently, i feel i have no control over my phone. MIUI is a s**+. This is my first time using a MIUI. You have can't even debloat your phone, unless you root it/install TWRP in it. You have to disable ads everywhere in each app individually, but still ads pop up. I faced problem of even changing default browser, music ,video player etc... Its messed up. You better stay on pure android UI device (like that of one plus/android one phones), that will make your life peaceful. I need to switch to google pixel rom in my phone.
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It got released at 28k was expecting it to be 25k. Overpriced. Hadd good expectation from this phone but ... it is better to go for One Plus 7 that has no bloatware, good UI, fast android update and no ADs
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Why do you feel its overprices? I agree that K20 is overprices but I feel the K20 Pro prices are fine for the features they are offering. But I am curious to know why people think K20 Pro base variant is overprices? Just because it has MIUI or the Redmi brand has an image of being cheap and people can't digest a higher price from this brand?
And i agree, ADs should die on MIUI. It's ridiculous now.
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Why do you feel its overprices? I agree that K20 is overprices but I feel the K20 Pro prices are fine for the features they are offering. But I am curious to know why people think K20 Pro base variant is overprices? Just because it has MIUI or the Redmi brand has an image of being cheap and people can't digest a higher price from this brand?
And i agree, ADs should die on MIUI. It's ridiculous now.
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Agree with you. I was more hopeful after Pcoc F1, redmi would be targeting the mid tier .. And price aggressively like 24-25k for K20 pro and 19-20k for K20. Its only that expectation that made most of us think that it is overpriced
I booked K20 128gb 6gb varient will be getting on. 23rd
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Agree with you. I was more hopeful after Pcoc F1, redmi would be targeting the mid tier .. And price aggressively like 24-25k for K20 pro and 19-20k for K20. Its only that expectation that made most of us think that it is overpriced
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Samsung just released A80 with Snappy730G and the price is an eye-watering INR 48K. That's ridiculous.
I am sure Poco F2 won't come this year. If it does, it'd be with a 730G or 730 chipset. No way Xiaomi is releasing a competitor to K20 Pro from one of their own sub-brands.
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If anyone has an Indian K20 Pro unit, I would appreciate if you can post your initial impressions and IF this still comes with Xiaomi ads.
The global version of the Legion phone 2 I bought from Giztop just showed up like 10 minutes ago. I haven't finished checking it out yet, but so far it looks like they have actually been able to put the global rom on the chinese version of the phone. Fingerprint works and so does the front camera which I think was an issue with the previous Legion phone. Here are some screenshots of what I have seen so far during setup
So the global version comes with all the usual Google apps set to default and as far as I can tell nothing from Lenovo. The fingerprint reader is noticibly faster than the Chinese version though I don't know if that is from the software difference or not. It was never very good no matter how many times I redid it on the Chinese rom. The factory screen protector also feels different so that may cause the change as well. Always on display still goes to sleep after a few seconds so that is no different. Notifications so far are working correctly without any kind of configuration required. I also tried changing the launcher. It can be done, but when you swipe an app and hold it just dissapears instead of showing all the running apps. So it sort of works.
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The global version of the Legion phone 2 I bought from Giztop just showed up like 10 minutes ago. I haven't finished checking it out yet, but so far it looks like they have actually been able to put the global rom on the chinese version of the phone. Fingerprint works and so does the front camera which I think was an issue with the previous Legion phone. Here are some screenshots of what I have seen so far during setup
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I do wonder, mine is Lenovo Legion 2 pro 16gb 512 gb with chinese rom how come duel 2 and pro 2 have same model number mine is also L70081. I believe yours might they installed global rom
pramodppd said:
I do wonder, mine is Lenovo Legion 2 pro 16gb 512 gb with chinese rom how come duel 2 and pro 2 have same model number mine is also L70081. I believe yours might they installed global rom
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It is the Chinese phone that they changed the rom on. The box is in Chinese, the booklet in the box is in Chinese and the sticker on the back of the phone is in Chinese even.
I got the 16GB/512GB Global model today from the Lenovo store. Going to play with it now
WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
I got the 16GB/512GB Global model today from the Lenovo store. Going to play with it now
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Nice. What is the version of the rom?
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Nice. What is the version of the rom?
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12.5.102 ST, February 1 2021 security patch. Do you also have a problem with the Google search bar? I can't remove it. Also the camera and Legion app have a strange ZuiSkd name.
But further it's a great device. Very fast, great speakers, almost stock Android.
WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
12.5.102 ST, February 1 2021 security patch. Do you also have a problem with the Google search bar? I can't remove it. Also the camera and Legion app have a strange ZuiSkd name.
But further it's a great device. Very fast, great speakers, almost stock Android.
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My version is 12.5.062. Does the always on display work properly in your version? I have the same issue with the Google search, which is annoying since it takes up alot of room. That reminds me, the camera app in the Global rom is way better than the Chinese version. It is faster and has a way better layout for image editing.
toliveforever said:
My version is 12.5.062. Does the always on display work properly in your version? I have the same issue with the Google search, which is annoying since it takes up alot of room. That reminds me, the camera app in the Global rom is way better than the Chinese version. It is faster and has a way better layout for image editing.
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I don't use always on display, but i can check it. What was the problem? Yeah i hate that search bar. I also tried to disable the Google app but the seach bar was only changed it white. Will try this tomorrow
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Where there other differences with the Chinese rom?
WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
I don't use always on display, but i can check it. What was the problem? Yeah i hate that search bar. I also tried to disable the Google app but the seach bar was only changed it white. Will try this tomorrow
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Where there other differences with the Chinese rom?
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The always on display turns itself off after a few seconds, which makes it pointless since it is supposed to be always on.
The Chinese rom has some built in apps for the phone, contacts and texting and alot of random Chinese preinstalled apps that are pointless unless you know Chinese of course. It also is slower at loading apps than the Global version. It is very noticeable with ebay and google news. However, it is not a true direct comparison since my phones have different ram and storage sizes. The Chinese rom also has a security thing that frees ram and kills apps even if you tell it not to. It also has an option to download more themes, which the Global version doesn't seem to have. Otherwise I can't think of many other differences. People say the Chinese rom will get more updates, but that is not worth it to me.
toliveforever said:
The global version of the Legion phone 2 I bought from Giztop just showed up like 10 minutes ago. I haven't finished checking it out yet, but so far it looks like they have actually been able to put the global rom on the chinese version of the phone. Fingerprint works and so does the front camera which I think was an issue with the previous Legion phone. Here are some screenshots of what I have seen so far during setup
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Chinese version with global rom is not the same as global version.
vitaly117 said:
Chinese version with global rom is not the same as global version.
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What is different?
f4TaL-NL said:
What is different?
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The network is different.
vitaly117 said:
The network is different.
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Proof?
dEFLASH said:
Proof?
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Just google it by yourself. There is a lot of proof.
vitaly117 said:
Just google it by yourself. There is a lot of proof.
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lol lame
dEFLASH said:
Proof?
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browse lenovo web from either europe country and then compare bands with the lenovo CN web . CN version support less bands according to Lenovo's specs
Saalvador said:
browse lenovo web from either europe country and then compare bands with the lenovo CN web . CN version support less bands according to Lenovo's specs
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Still not a proof.
All versions ok with bands, cuz of soc.
Difference in software (firmware).
dEFLASH said:
Still not a proof.
All versions ok with bands, cuz of soc.
Difference in software (firmware).
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Totally false. The cn version with global rom is missing b66,b71, and n71. So the hw is somehow different
I dunno how is it for Duel 2, but i had Asus ROG II (Chinese version) and it simply missed some bands too (it was hdw difference between global and chinese rom) - but honestly i didn't find in real enviroment any difference (living in UK)
Edit:// Hope Lenovo will realese new global update, those notification are annoying AF! Like i absolutely dunno if i got some message, it just simply that icon dissappear from status bar, like wtf , not mentioning still having issues with my hotspot, always have to use usb cable for hotspot, otherwise getting error >.<
Do we have any info is this device coming to Europe ?? Or where to buy in china ?
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I don't think it's will come to eu (read that meny time on internet)
I bought mine on TradingShenzhen
Delivered less than 2 weeks
700€ ?? Well, that is close to asus zenfone 9. Hard to choose
I also bought mine at TradingShenzhen. Took just under 2 weeks to arrive.
How's the experience on Xiaomi 12S? I'm planning to get one too.
Issue I found so far with the Chinese ROM
1. Android auto - communication error 22, previously worked with my old phone ( thinking to flash to xiaomi eu rom)
2. Android home - casting to Chromecast, tried once didn't work
3. Whatsapps - choppy video when sharing with others. I think that's a Whatsapp issue
Otherwise it's been very good
vexebaj said:
Do we have any info is this device coming to Europe ?? Or where to buy in china ?
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According to some information, 12s series are only available in China, because the Leica authorization is currently only open for Chinese. Leijun says that the next generation of flagship will enter the global market.
Maybe you can try to buy it on Taobao (a Chinese online shopping platform), some of the shops support overseas delivery.
vexebaj said:
Do we have any info is this device coming to Europe ?? Or where to buy in china ?
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Maybe I can buy for you, or you can find a purchasing platform . I'm in China
phraze04 said:
How's the experience on Xiaomi 12S? I'm planning to get one too.
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If you're not like Chinese and plan on using this phone as a daily driver than you are probably out of luck as this phone does not sell out of China. Even if you managed to get hold of it warranty and other benefits would not work outside of China.
If you are like me who simply wants to try out Chinese hardware and flash Custom roms than I suggest you wait a bit for devs who manage to get their hands on this device or when Xiaomi releases enough code for custom rom developers for them to churn out a good aosp-like rom.
Of course there is still the issue of this device being Chinese-only so non-Chinese custom rom devs would not pay much attention to this device.
The latest device that supports a mainstream AOSP custom rom (I regard LineageOS and pixelexperience as mainstream) is the Mi11, and that has been out for two years now.
You of course can choose to use the stock Chinese rom, With all the Mi bloatware and ads, other Chinese bloatware, Play services bugs, and you would have to sideload the Play Store.
With the money you are paying for this phone (and the added shipping fee to ship outside China) along with the fact that warranty (or even general) support is only in China (which means if you run into issues with your phone you would have to send it back in China to fix the issues) I suggest you look for a different phone that is officially sold and supported in your region.
I have been thinking about buying a Lenovo Legion y70, and the truth is that I have several questions.
The first is that if the cell phone allows the transmission of screen and sound in the discord?
Also, what is more recommended? Buy a version with the global rom installed on aliexpress, or buy it new and sealed and install it myself?
And also how is the experience with this cell phone? Is it recommended or are there better options?
JMFK10 said:
I have been thinking about buying a Lenovo Legion y70, and the truth is that I have several questions.
[1.] The first is that if the cell phone allows the transmission of screen and sound in the discord?
[2.] Also, what is more recommended? Buy a version with the global rom installed on aliexpress, or buy it new and sealed and install it myself?
[3.] And also how is the experience with this cell phone? Is it recommended or are there better options?
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1. Yeah why wouldn't it? You can do this on any android phone.
2. There is no global rom version. Some sellers off to install google play for you since it doesn't come with it. Either option is fine, but if you don't know how to do it and are going to have trouble figuring it out, having the seller do it will be more convenient, but otherwise it's not too hard to do. Keep in mind you are still using the CN rom, which while it does have English, and other languages, will still have the typical chinese rom bloat.
3. Mine hasn't arrived yet so I cant speak from experience, but if your budget isn't more than 300ish USD, you won't find anything with better hardware. However, this doesn't make it the best option, unless you don't mind being stuck on the chinese rom with no future updates. I think its worth spending the extra for a phone with a good global rom, especially if your carrier is supported (a lot of the alternative options didn't support my carrier), but I personally couldn't afford it which is why I've purchased one of these. If your carrier supports it, I think the Realme GT Neo 5 SE, and Xiaomi Redmi Note 12 Turbo are better options. They cost around 330-340 USD, have similar performance, better body weight/size, and much better software. Only thing they're really missing is dc dimming, and good frequency bands/carrier support.
I have a discord server for Legion Y70 information, and discussion here https://discord.gg/r5VMszTGVr, look in the #interested-buyers channel for more info.