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May I know the Xperia S lt26i be used in USA T-mobile with 3G / 3.5G? I wanna take mine to Hawaii...
2g only, Xperia S doesn't have the AWS band for tmobile
Thanks, dear. I will dig my Nexus S to use 3G then. Or..... use 2G only in my lovely Xperia S....
jcsmart said:
Thanks, dear. I will dig my Nexus S to use 3G then. Or..... use 2G only in my lovely Xperia S....
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2g sucks. Realllly think about it.
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that model will work in tmo with 3g, it works in a network similar in mexico
Should work with 3g T Mobile.
I am currently using it with AT&T 3G........and it works perfectly.
Just had to set the APN settings manually.
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that model will work in tmo with 3g, it works in a network similar in mexico
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intellix said:
Should work with 3g T Mobile.
I am currently using it with AT&T 3G........and it works perfectly.
Just had to set the APN settings manually.
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T-Mobile USA uses AWS (1700/2100) Bands, the LT26i being sold everywhere so far (except somewhere in Japan for Docomo network) has 850/900/1900/2100 bands so it's impossible it will work on T-Mobile 3G. I read there were some small areas where T-Mobile was working with AT&T antennas for some iPhone users (some kind of roaming after the failed acquisition?, nothing confirmed) so that could be your only chance on getting 3G T-Mobile connection with this phone.
so what u try to say is that this xps version can work on at&t 3g network?
YES IT CAN, I got mine and yes you have to enter the APN manually. Mine went straight to hspa doesnt show ATT logo either, just eh H
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alankstiyo said:
that model will work in tmo with 3g, it works in a network similar in mexico
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No it won't. It doesn't support 1700. Unlike most carriers (who operate on an either OR basis if they use multiple frequencies) T-Mobile US uses both 1700 and 2100 (one for uplink and one for downlink) for their 3G service. If it doesn't support both frequencies you will not get 3G service (as you will be missing either the uplink or the downlink). This device does not support 1700.
DOESN'T WORK ON TMO 3G. YOU WOULD ONLE PICK EDGE. AND IT DOES WORK ON AT&T I KNOW SO CAUSE I'M USING IT AND PICK UP H
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Speedtest results using at&t 3g
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i really like the XPERIA S but too bad it doesnt work with tmobile 3G... i guess my only chance is have my tmobile sim card in my current X10 to do hotspot to my XPERIA S for fone calls and everything...
still using tzone $5.99 grandfather plan for 3G speed... the fastest i get is about 5Mbps download
It should work if you flash LT26a firmware (USA frequency baseband).
Im not aware of any lt26a. The only north american Xperia S is the Xperia Ion which is not available yet.
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Blagus said:
It should work if you flash LT26a firmware (USA frequency baseband).
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LT26a doesn't exist (so far)...
Alien987 said:
LT26a doesn't exist (so far)...
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Then there's nothing you can do until device is released... unless there's some LT26a firmware available somewhere already...
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It should work if you flash LT26a firmware (USA frequency baseband).
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You're also assuming that the *hardware* in that device (which doesn't even exist yet) supports 1700/2100 (which neither the LT26i or LT26a ever listed 1700 as a supported frequency).
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You're also assuming that the *hardware* in that device (which doesn't even exist yet) supports 1700/2100 (which neither the LT26i or LT26a ever listed 1700 as a supported frequency).
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Then it probably isn't intended for networks which use 1700 frequency.
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Then it probably isn't intended for networks which use 1700 frequency.
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Which is what this thread is about, a network that requires 1700 mhz for 3g service, and why it's unlikely to work by flashing a new baseband.
Dear guys I bought my s3 from the middle east now I live in New York and with t mobile I only get edge on my data connection. I searched the web and xda but couldn't find a useful solution pleas help me with what is possible to do. if I rooted wich radio and Rom would work.
Thank u all already.
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EDGE is the best you'll be able to get with T-Mobile. Your international GS3 doesn't have the 1700MHz band needed for T-Mobile 4G.
Your options are to live with it, switch providers and go with AT&T or sell your GS3 and buy the T-Mobile version.
Bellow is a screen shot from wiki pediatrician for gt-i9300 base bands it includes all almost there must be a work arriund to get 4g
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I would say wait few more months t-mobile already started rolling out H+ for 1900. So in few months we will be able to use high speed data
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Red Wolf said:
I would say wait few more months t-mobile already started rolling out H+ for 1900. So in few months we will be able to use high speed data
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where did you hear that?
Sell it and get the t-mo gs3 version, you'll need 1700 mhz umts to be able to get the 3g (fake 4g) on t-mo. And this is hardware is no root or magic to change it!
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I bought the phone from at&t but i'm in egypt now
The phone signal indicator gives me that i'm using 4G while we don't have 4G in egypt so could i change that icon
A second thing is i get pretty slow speeds on a 3G network is that someting related to bands ?
Forgot to mention that here we have UMTS 2100 band
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ali_loly10 said:
I bought the phone from at&t but i'm in egypt now
The phone signal indicator gives me that i'm using 4G while we don't have 4G in egypt so could i change that icon
A second thing is i get pretty slow speeds on a 3G network is that someting related to bands ?
Forgot to mention that here we have UMTS 2100 band
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I believe the 4G is an indicator of HSDPA or an HSPA+ network, which is truly 3G but the U.S Carriers like to call 4G.
As for the slow speeds, make sure you have the right APN settings put in for your local carrier. Without that you may get internet, but slowly.
I've already preordered my Sony Xperia ZU from atgsm.com
Although it's backordered right now and I have to wait another week for it to arrive, ( SUCKS because I even got FedEx 2 Day Shipping! ): )
I can POSITIVELY and SURELY CONFIRM that:
C6833 Works on all networks INCLUDING 4G LTE for T-Mobile as this uses BAND 4
C6806 Works on all networks INCLUDING 4G LTE for T-Mobile and AT&T
C6802 Works on all networks EXCLUDING 4G LTE
Hope this clears up any confusion. The International version of the Xperia ZU will work on all networks that have 4G LTE as well EXCEPT AT&T'S, presumably because it does not have the supported band. (I cannot confirm but am 99% sure) The North American (US) version will be slightly cheaper by $20-$50 depending where you order it from. The only true benefit of this (besides saving money of course) is the ability to connect to AT&T's 4G LTE network. Other than that, they are both the same. (EXLCUDING C6802 which does NOT support ANY 4G LTE speeds)
If you don't want to wait until after October 14 like me, go ahead and get the international version. Some websites have good deals and you might be able to get it at an equal price OR cheaper compared to the C6806 if you look wisely and do your research.
Personally, the international version is the way to go if you aren't on AT&T's network because if you ever go somewhere outside of the US, you can still use prepaid phone plans or such and access the internet. For such an amazing device coming with a premium price tag, I'd like to be TRULY mobile with my phone!
PLEASE stay tuned as when my Xperia ZU arrives I'll do a live video of me taking off the Anti-Shatter Film as some of you wish to do so. (Same here) I'll also post up some pictures of the cases I have and screen protectors I'll be using (SPIGEN TEMPERED GLASS COMING SEPT. 30!) and various tests (NOT the usual ones you see of benchmarks and such, but rather more interesting ones like size and everyday practical use)
If you guys have any questions just feel free to ask, we're a community here so let's see what valuable knowledge we can offer!
-Purple_Clouded
Correct. The C6833 has octaband LTE support. The bands on the Z Ultra (C6833) are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 20. The big additions here are 2 and 4 which will open up the Z Ultra for broad use on major LTE networks in North America. AT&T have band 17, Verizon use band 13, Sprint use 25/27 and US Cellular operate on 12. Only T-Mobile have stayed ‘open’ on band 4. The other main carriers mentioned do also use bands 2 & 4, the unique bands allow them to lock down devices they sell to their own LTE networks, but 2 and 4 are open.
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Correct. The C6833 has octaband LTE support. The bands on the Z Ultra (C6833) are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 20. The big additions here are 2 and 4 which will open up the Z Ultra for broad use on major LTE networks in North America. AT&T have band 17, Verizon use band 13, Sprint use 25/27 and US Cellular operate on 12. Only T-Mobile have stayed ‘open’ on band 4. The other main carriers mentioned do also use bands 2 & 4, the unique bands allow them to lock down devices they sell to their own LTE networks, but 2 and 4 are open.
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So that means you could'nt use the c6833 on At&t LTE network then.
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I can confirm this to be the case. I am currently running the C6833 on ATT and an unable to get the LTE to work. I have called them and checked and they have said by not having the 700 band, that is whats keeping me from accessing their LTE network. Right now all I am getting is HSPA+ on their network and it works pretty well. It has been a PITA getting all the network settings to work all at once but I think I have it all good now, so if anyone is trying to use ATT and having problems, I might be able to help.
One question I do have is that most LTE phones that are made specifically for ATT have LTE 700mhz band 17/2100. the C6833 has the 2100 band, so my question is why cant we access the LTE network using that band since we dont have the 700mhz?
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I can confirm this to be the case. I am currently running the C6833 on ATT and an unable to get the LTE to work. I have called them and checked and they have said by not having the 700 band, that is whats keeping me from accessing their LTE network. Right now all I am getting is HSPA+ on their network and it works pretty well. It has been a PITA getting all the network settings to work all at once but I think I have it all good now, so if anyone is trying to use ATT and having problems, I might be able to help.
One question I do have is that most LTE phones that are made specifically for ATT have LTE 700mhz band 17/2100. the C6833 has the 2100 band, so my question is why cant we access the LTE network using that band since we dont have the 700mhz?
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I have the Sony Xperia Z Ultra 6802 and I'm useing it on At&t. But I will be getting the 6806 so I can have the benifit of LTE.
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ij0rgei said:
One question I do have is that most LTE phones that are made specifically for ATT have LTE 700mhz band 17/2100. the C6833 has the 2100 band, so my question is why cant we access the LTE network using that band since we dont have the 700mhz?
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You can't use it on LTE because 2100 is Band 1. The US does not use Band 1 (2100) because Band 4 (1700+2100) uses the 2100 for its downlink, therefore it is already being occupied. Make sense? Band 1 (2100) is something one sees mostly in Europe/Asia.
AT&T uses Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700+2100), Band 5 (850), and Band 17 (700). The majority of their network currently runs on Band 17. Without Band 17, you will not be able to access their LTE network in most places (I can only think of 3-4 places where they are not using Band 17 due to spectrum constraints).
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You can't use it on LTE because 2100 is Band 1. The US does not use Band 1 (2100) because Band 4 (1700+2100) uses the 2100 for its downlink, therefore it is already being occupied. Make sense? Band 1 (2100) is something one sees mostly in Europe/Asia.
AT&T uses Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700+2100), Band 5 (850), and Band 17 (700). The majority of their network currently runs on Band 17. Without Band 17, you will not be able to access their LTE network in most places (I can only think of 3-4 places where they are not using Band 17 due to spectrum constraints).
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Can anyone confirm c6833 will work on tmobiles 4g lte? I am very confused now..
djjoonie said:
Can anyone confirm c6833 will work on tmobiles 4g lte? I am very confused now..
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Yes it works on T-Mobile LTE. Using it right now.
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can you please explain how
clubtech said:
Yes it works on T-Mobile LTE. Using it right now.
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I have the same but no lte shown.plain 4g
nihal1983 said:
I have the same but no lte shown.plain 4g
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Normally you will NOT see a LTE logo unless yo do some time of root or customization outside o the stock Sony UI and launcher that came with the phone. (I cannot confirm but so far with my recent phones, this has always been the case.) The only real possible way of proving that you're on LTE from T-Mobile is by getting an app and clocking your internet speeds.
Regardless, if you're satisfied with the speed of your data connection and the lightspeed of the Sony ZU, there's no need to bother. (Unless of course you feel conscious of shelling out the extra 50 or so dollars.)
Rest assured, my ZU C6833 will be coming in this Friday and I myself am on T-Mobile. I've heard time and time that everyone has been able to connect to their respective 4G LTE networks with ease, and combined with the speed and finesse of the phone it's a breeze to surf the web, play games, multitask etc. I hope that you're satisfied with what you have! It would be a shame if you device was faulty! (Let's hope not!)
djjoonie said:
Can anyone confirm c6833 will work on tmobiles 4g lte? I am very confused now..
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Not sure what's confusing. Learn what bands your carrier uses and compare them on the spec. sheet.
T-Mobile uses Band 2 (1900) and Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS) for HSPA+ (a.k.a. 4G) and uses Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS) for LTE (a.k.a 4G LTE).
The c6833 according to Sony supports Band 5 (850), Band 7 (900), Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS), Band 2 (1900), and Band 1 (2100) on HSPA+ and Band I (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 3 (1800), Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), band 8 (900), and Band 20 (800) on LTE.
Therefore, the 2 HSPA+ bands and the 1 LTE band you need for T-Mobile are on the c6833. It will also work great internationally. If you have AT&T though, you will not be able to get LTE and need the c6906 model.
Thank you for the confirmation.
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Not sure what's confusing. Learn what bands your carrier uses and compare them on the spec. sheet.
T-Mobile uses Band 2 (1900) and Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS) for HSPA+ (a.k.a. 4G) and uses Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS) for LTE (a.k.a 4G LTE).
The c6833 according to Sony supports Band 5 (850), Band 7 (900), Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS), Band 2 (1900), and Band 1 (2100) on HSPA+ and Band I (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 3 (1800), Band 4 (1700+2100 or AWS), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), band 8 (900), and Band 20 (800) on LTE.
Therefore, the 2 HSPA+ bands and the 1 LTE band you need for T-Mobile are on the c6833. It will also work great internationally. If you have AT&T though, you will not be able to get LTE and need the c6906 model.
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Just make sure the apn is set correctly. I get LTE on US T-Mobile.
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Just make sure the apn is set correctly. I get LTE on US T-Mobile.
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Can you please share the apn and what do you see under the mobile networks.I see 4g cdma etc.
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Here you go!
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I don't see the lte option in networks. I added the apn manually
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4g not lte for me
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nihal1983 said:
4g not lte for me
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It's possible that it's a fremont thing. When I had my Note2, i rarely got LTE in fremont, but always did in Irvine. I'll be in fremont this weekend, and I'll check it out for you.
thanks
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It's possible that it's a fremont thing. When I had my Note2, i rarely got LTE in fremont, but always did in Irvine. I'll be in fremont this weekend, and I'll check it out for you.
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I have an t-mo s4 and i get lte, funny thing is i get lte speeds no logo shown or in the networks shows 4g not lte
I have the same APN settings on my c6833. I get LTE on T-Mobile in some areas (San Diego, California) but if I go somewhere there is no LTE, I get no data. It's like the phone doesn't want to switch to HSPA+ or anything else if there is no LTE. Do I need multiple APN's or does anyone know how to fix the data being either LTE or nothing?
Edit: I changed the "Bearer" to "Unspecified" instead of "LTE" and now it gets H+ but no LTE... Weird...
I'm new to T-Mobile, was a HSPA+ ever discovered for us? Any way to get it on the S5 yet?
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bubblebuddyi said:
I'm new to T-Mobile, was a HSPA+ ever discovered for us? Any way to get it on the S5 yet?
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What are you asking? T-Mobile primary network is EDGE, then HSPA, then LTE. If you want to use only HSPA, you can go to settings>mobile networks>network mode. WCDMA only
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What are you asking? T-Mobile primary network is EDGE, then HSPA, then LTE. If you want to use only HSPA, you can go to settings>mobile networks>network mode. WCDMA only
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Sorry, I'm coming from ATT where we had to do weird things to unlock HSPA. My issue is I'm on EDGE more than anything and things don't even load on EDGE. I remember being stuck on E sometimes on ATT, but unlocking HSPA fixed that.
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There's no unlocking that Ive ever heard of. It sounds like you just get poor reception. Probably an area that doesn't get 4g or Lte. Check Tmobile coverage map.
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Yeah, my guess is coverage too. Do go in and check that option that they listed above for your network type. In your situation I would try setting it to WCDMA Only - this will FORCE it to connect to 4G (HSPA+) and if you have no signal for 4g you will have 0 bars so it is a good test to see how that signal is in your area aside from the network map.
You will only be able to use T-Mobile HSPA+ if you are using a T-Mobile branded S5. The AT&T S5 does not support the 1700 AWS band from T-Mobile so you will not be able to get it and will only have access to 2G/3G/4G and LTE (no 4G+)
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I'm new to T-Mobile, was a HSPA+ ever discovered for us? Any way to get it on the S5 yet?
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You will only be able to use T-Mobile HSPA+ if you are using a T-Mobile branded S5. The AT&T S5 does not support the 1700 AWS band from T-Mobile so you will not be able to get it and will only have access to 2G/3G/4G and LTE (no 4G+)
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BlackAlpha7 said:
Yeah, my guess is coverage too. Do go in and check that option that they listed above for your network type. In your situation I would try setting it to WCDMA Only - this will FORCE it to connect to 4G (HSPA+) and if you have no signal for 4g you will have 0 bars so it is a good test to see how that signal is in your area aside from the network map.
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Thanks, I'm using a branded t mobile s5 but I'm either on edge or 4G, mostly edge. I didn't realize hspa+ was just another word for 4g. So I guess I'm stuck with edge
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T-Mobile rural coverage is quite poor in most areas, however they've committed to modernizing their rural areas now that they've got the major centers but it might take a year or better to get it all done. I'm planning to go to at&t in great meantime now that their rates have come down. I'm stuck in 2g land at home and work here
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T-Mobile rural coverage is quite poor in most areas, however they've committed to modernizing their rural areas now that they've got the major centers but it might take a year or better to get it all done. I'm planning to go to at&t in great meantime now that their rates have come down. I'm stuck in 2g land at home and work here
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Hopefully they fix the service period, there's times when I'm full LTE but can't connect to anything.
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