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I'm sitting here trying to watch videos on my new Verizon V10, but the speaker is so tinny/buzzy-low that I can't enjoy it. I'm having to watch on my old HTC M7..
Does the speaker improve over time? What were they thinking giving us this great screen but requiring headphines to watch anything?
thecadman99 said:
I'm sitting here trying to watch videos on my new Verizon V10, but the speaker is so tinny/buzzy-low that I can't enjoy it. I'm having to watch on my old HTC M7..
Does the speaker improve over time? What were they thinking giving us this great screen but requiring headphines to watch anything?
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Mins is like this as well. Luckily I own a few pair of Beats headphones and have Bluetooth in my car. It is pretty ridiculous though
thecadman99 said:
I'm sitting here trying to watch videos on my new Verizon V10, but the speaker is so tinny/buzzy-low that I can't enjoy it. I'm having to watch on my old HTC M7..
Does the speaker improve over time? What were they thinking giving us this great screen but requiring headphines to watch anything?
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I have the t-mobile variant and the speaker is very loud, to the point I have to turn it down when I let my daughter use it while she cleans her room because the sounds travels though the house. Maybe it's a bad unit.
The speakers are loud for me too， but the sound quality is pathetic
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So you guys think it's software? Maybe a fix in the future? I expected the same speaker as the g4, but it's not as loud.
I'm on the fence about keeping the phone for this reason.
mine is low too. Tmobile v10. G4 had really awesome loud sound !
They are acceptable, but don't expect to be able to hear them in a room that's not completely quiet. Coming from an HTC m8 the speakers on the v10 were disappointing
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They are acceptable, but don't expect to be able to hear them in a room that's not completely quiet. Coming from an HTC m8 the speakers on the v10 were disappointing
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That's a coincidence, I'm actually thinking of selling my v10, and buying a used H8 How do they compare?
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That's a coincidence, I'm actually thinking of selling my v10, and buying a used H8 How do they compare?
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I don't know about the H8, but I came from a Note 4 and was surprised at how crappy the V10 speaker is. Distortion City at loud volume.
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That's a coincidence, I'm actually thinking of selling my v10, and buying a used H8 How do they compare?
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I loved my m8 for the 1.5 years I had it. Awesome speakers, durable build(I had no case and only a vinyl wrap on it since week one), really easy to use one handed unlike the v10.
The v10 has a way better camera, super fast phone(4 gigs of ram?), brilliant screen, 268gb of storage with my 200gb micro SD. The extra battery is a major win, swapping battery's for the past two weeks and going from 0% to 100% in 20 seconds has been amazing.
But honestly my v10 has already started to fall apart, it's only a month old and looks beat to **** already. Already has more micro scratches than my old m8, the camera ring is scratched, the back cover is tinted with dirty/is a different color than rest of the phone, has several chunks missing from the rubber.?
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I don't know about the H8, but I came from a Note 4 and was surprised at how crappy the V10 speaker is. Distortion City at loud volume.
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Agreed, my wife's note 4 is much louder/clearer.
I know is not a big deal to most, but hopping in my old car (without Bluetooth) and still being able to enjoy listening to a podcast is a big deal for me. I just wish I knew if there is a software fix possible. Seems like some are fine with the volume.
There must be different suppliers for the speaker unit because I can tell no difference between my V10 and any other phone i've had with one speaker, including the G4, any of the Galaxy Notes, S4, Nexus 4 etc.. and i'm not hard of hearing or undiscerning. We're talking about a speaker 1/4th the size of a fingernail. Has anyone had a single-speaker phone that seriously didn't distort at full volume? My Note 4 sounded like crap, just like the V10, only the V10 doesn't get muffled when laying face up on a soft surface. I change phones every few months, can't remember a single one that sounded significantly different than the one before it with the exception of the Nexus 6 and its two front firing speakers, but even those distorted like mad at higher volume.
I've never heard HTC's "Boom Sound" so maybe i'm really missing out there. If every one of HTC's M series cameras didn't stink so bad (relative to the flagship competition) I would have had one by now though.
I find the sound comparable to my last phone galaxy s5. The speaker works well enough for my use not fantastic. I use Bluetooth most of the time anyway. I figure different phones have different drawbacks. All the plus's about this phone outweigh the negative.
I have a T-Mobile V10 that is rooted. I have Viper Audio(V4A) installed. It has made a VERY dramatic difference in the audio output and quality of the speaker. I rarely have to put the volume even halfway up! Audio is clear and loud. This lends me to believe that it is not a hardware limitation of the V10's speaker but software. The speaker can produce some loud and clear audio. I root all my phones to use V4A. It allows me to get great audio from the built in speakers.
androidfilesharing said:
Mins is like this as well. Luckily I own a few pair of Beats headphones and have Bluetooth in my car. It is pretty ridiculous though
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I dont know what's worse tiny speaker on v10 or beats headphones
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kgbeezr1 said:
There must be different suppliers for the speaker unit because I can tell no difference between my V10 and any other phone i've had with one speaker, including the G4, any of the Galaxy Notes, S4, Nexus 4 etc.. and i'm not hard of hearing or undiscerning. We're talking about a speaker 1/4th the size of a fingernail. Has anyone had a single-speaker phone that seriously didn't distort at full volume? My Note 4 sounded like crap, just like the V10, only the V10 doesn't get muffled when laying face up on a soft surface. I change phones every few months, can't remember a single one that sounded significantly different than the one before it with the exception of the Nexus 6 and its two front firing speakers, but even those distorted like mad at higher volume.
I've never heard HTC's "Boom Sound" so maybe i'm really missing out there. If every one of HTC's M series cameras didn't stink so bad (relative to the flagship competition) I would have had one by now though.
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Maybe there are different speakers causing all these different experiences. My wife's note 4 is much louder, and my daughters Droid turbo is much much louder. I seriously can't watch an interview - type YouTube video because I can't understand what anyone is saying.
I just factory reset my 2 day old v10. The speaker is a deal-breaker. It's going on Craigslist/eBay. A phone with end bezels this large should have great sound.
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I have a T-Mobile V10 that is rooted. I have Viper Audio(V4A) installed. It has made a VERY dramatic difference in the audio output and quality of the speaker. I rarely have to put the volume even halfway up! Audio is clear and loud. This lends me to believe that it is not a hardware limitation of the V10's speaker but software. The speaker can produce some loud and clear audio. I root all my phones to use V4A. It allows me to get great audio from the built in speakers.
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I called lg and spoke to them about the speaker. They said I was the first complaint they had regarding low sound. Their tech said the speaker was as loud as it ever would be and software would not change it, nor did they plan on making any changes or updates to the volume.
I'm sure it was a canned response but certainly not encouraging.
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I have a T-Mobile V10 that is rooted. I have Viper Audio(V4A) installed. It has made a VERY dramatic difference in the audio output and quality of the speaker. I rarely have to put the volume even halfway up! Audio is clear and loud. This lends me to believe that it is not a hardware limitation of the V10's speaker but software. The speaker can produce some loud and clear audio. I root all my phones to use V4A. It allows me to get great audio from the built in speakers.
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Where can I get the info to install the viper on my phone
Full info on V4A can be found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
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Where can I get the info to install the viper on my phone
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I would try it too, but Verizon versions of the V10 aren't rootable.... At least not yet.....?
So I am wanting to get rid of my pos 6s plus... I was looking at the v10 or the nexus 6p..which do you guys think is best?
Here are a few questions I had on the v10...
How are the cameras ? And how's the front for selfies ?
How is the audio quality ? Is it really that much better then other phones?
If I installed viper4android would the dac be pointless or would it be a super dac basically ?
How's the battery life ?
Is it quick or does it get laggy like the G4? Thanks !!!
. Nexus 6p camera was great until i used a note 5 camera. I liked the note 5 front facing camera until i used the g4 front facing camera which was the best i used on a phone. Sprint don't have the v10 or i would of had it but my guess would be a similar experience as the g4 but bigger and a extra screen .
Get the 6p
The 6P is honestly one of the worst smartphones I've heard in terms of audio quality, while the V10 is the best, so it's a night and day difference in that regard. The V10 also has the better camera from what I've seen (I haven't used the 6P extensively, a friend owns one), but the gap there isn't as big.
I'd get the T-Mobile V10, since it's only variant that allows you to unlock the bootloader so you can throw a debloated ROM on there, which was a must for me
It all depends on what your looking for in a phone.
If you want the best audio play back while plugged into the 3.5'm port, than get the V10 . But if you never use the 3.5 port than you'll never enjoy the awesome audio.
If you want the best camera around than the V10 is the way to go. There's claims that the 6P can hang with the V10, but your still going to get slightly sharper imagines from V10.
When everyone asks about the V10 and audio quality, you first need to ask yourself what you expect to hear as far as difference goes between a DAC and the standard Snapdragon DAC. If you don't know how to answer that question, than you probably aren't looking for the right phone. If you have a pair of headphones that can show you the difference between a track with a noisy floor and not, then you probably should look at the V10. I use a pair of Westone 4r IEM's. Audio quality is about what *you* hear.. *your* opinion, not others! Understand that wanting Viper working in tandem with the DAC is not an example of audio quality. The purpose of the second DAC is to present you with the closest reproduction as possible to the source - without equalization, in this case - Viper.
That being said, using Viper with this phones built in Snapdragon DAC, there's very noticeable loudness over nearly all other phones on the market, but that is not audio quality, that's audio gain. Big difference!
I've got a V10 T-Mo version. I also have a T-Mo LG G4, M9 Dev edition Note 5, S6 and a Moto X Pure 2015. You just need to sit down and weigh the pros and cons of the phones you decide to pick from. Don't accept personal opinion because they will all be biased! I took my $500 headphones into the store and listened to each one. People thought I was crazy! I love and hate things about the V10. The G4 was extremely laggy until I put CM13 on it. I am absolutely blown away by the battery life I get on it now! AND it has the same Snapdragon 808 DAC that everyone raves about in the V10.
V10 has:
1) buggy fingerprint reader when a case is on the phone (a google search will show this - I hate having no case)
2) LCD bleeding on the second screen (found on many blogs - as mine does)
3) poor battery life considering the 3,000 mah battery and idle with just stock apps (my personal experience as well as others)
4) The inability to root and change the LCD density. Doing so causes FC's upon boot and you have to factory reset. This has been an issue for months and will remain until a a dev finds a work around. Seriously, this phone has a larger physical screen but you see less on the screen than any other phone I've listed!
5) GREAT camera, but LAGGY shutter times. It's unfortunate. Camera can keep up with the S6 camera in the right conditions but that's just the thing.. "right conditions" and how long it takes from pocket to snapping that photo.
6) EXCELLENT built in dual audio system. Viper DOES work with the built in DAC - but the ESS chip lowers the gain (can't go as loud) so most all people I've read in blogs say they just use viper on the stock Snapdragon 808 DAC. Googling will show how to enable the DAC on all apps, not just the stock.
7) EXCELLENT build quality, though some don't like the rubber texture of the back
I'm probably the only one here that will tell you out of all those phones they would choose the G4. (See, that was a biased answer.) Previous posters are right in saying if you're looking for the best sound, get a V10 (It edges out the HTC m9 and obliterates the S6) - but make sure you're willing to overlook its downfalls.
The biggest piece of advice I can give anyone is - There's ALWAYS a catch! Make sure if you're willing to live with that devices catch and you're good to go!
Out of the phones I have (again - biased personal opinion)
Best Camera - Note 5
Worst Camera - Moto X Pure
Best Audio Quality - LG V10
Worst Audio Quality - S6
Best Audio Loudness - LG V10
Worst Audio Loudness - Moto X Pure (which is odd because it's the same 808 Snapdragon.)
Best Battery - Note 5 (It's a matter of physics)
Worst Battery - LG V10
Best Build - LG V10 (Sorry, but they give you removable battery and microSD)
Worst Build - Moto X Pure (it's also the cheapest - lies... i'm sorry.. it's actually $399 which is what they are still selling the G4 for)
Best feel in the hand - S6
Worst feel in the hand - LG V10 (C'mon.. the thing is a tank!!!)
Easiest to root and install 3rd party ROM - G4 hands down! It's as easy as any Nexus device I've ever owned
Hardest to root and install 3rd party ROM - HTC M9 - but only because I had to pay $25 to unlock the bootloader with the SunShine app.
Hope my 2 cents helps!
Cheers!!!
Hello,
which of those two phones would you prefer? Is the G6 camera with the 2.09mm lense still better than the S7?
Because i need a phone with a good camera.
g6
I had S7. After one month of baby sitting it it was FULL of scratches on the screen. Never ever saw anything like it before. I know that it was not my fault since i used S2, S5 and OnePlus 3 for years under the same conditions without a single scratch. After that horror experience I switched to G6. Not the slightest scratch in half a year. Some people claim they don't have problems with S7 scratches. Perhaps older batches were indeed Gorilla Glass 4 but the newest ones ... I recommend avoiding by all means. So go for G6.
G6, one of the best phones I've owned.
G6 for :
Design, screen, music and ui
S7 for :
Camera (better but dont have a wide angle), more compact, led notification
I preferred to spend a little more in a g6 because it is more original, we see few people with (I've never met someone with) and because the wide angle sensor is a really nice feature
in any case it's two phones that are worth, they will give me a pleasant user experience, you see according to your budget and the one you like most
Marvomat said:
Hello,
which of those two phones would you prefer? Is the G6 camera with the 2.09mm lense still better than the S7?
Because i need a phone with a good camera.
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If you need a good camera go for S7, but only for the auto mode, if you're skilled go for V30 which is better in everything, but if you have a low budget then go for the G6, LGs in manual are above competitors even with bad camera sensor
Killua96 said:
If you need a good camera go for S7, but only for the auto mode, if you're skilled go for V30 which is better in everything, but if you have a low budget then go for the G6, LGs in manual are above competitors even with bad camera sensor
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I don't think it's the sensor but more how their software handles auto modes.
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I don't think it's the sensor but more how their software handles auto modes.
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No, the sensor on the G6 is way worse than the one found on S7 and also worse then older G series device, check it out if you don't believe me xD
G6 makes, in fact, good photos in auto thanks to the LG software, and in manual thanks to the wide optimization choices.
Killua96 said:
No, the sensor on the G6 is way worse than the one found on S7 and also worse then older G series device, check it out if you don't believe me xD
G6 makes, in fact, good photos in auto thanks to the LG software, and in manual thanks to the wide optimization choices.
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Wow I did not know zganks
I miss my GS7. I like the camera, the audio including the built in global equalizer and sound settings. And the themes from the Samsung theme app.
Killua96 said:
No, the sensor on the G6 is way worse than the one found on S7 and also worse then older G series device, check it out if you don't believe me xD
G6 makes, in fact, good photos in auto thanks to the LG software, and in manual thanks to the wide optimization choices.
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But G6 have great lenses, that generate good pictures from an average sensor.
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But G6 have great lenses, that generate good pictures from an average sensor.
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Yep, that's also true, but a good sensor would be better
G6 for Manual S7 for Auto
Marvomat said:
Hello,
which of those two phones would you prefer? Is the G6 camera with the 2.09mm lense still better than the S7?
Because i need a phone with a good camera.
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1. If you used to take photos in Auto Mode then it is S7.
2. S7 also takes better photos in Low Light.
3. But S7 doesn't have a good battery life.
4. Plus, it has Amoled screen which is Good.
In Case of G6,
1. Daylight camera shots are better than S7 but in low light it is not good.
2. But if you can use Manual Mode then G6 wins by miles. G6 (and V30)'s manual mode is the Best in class.
3. G6 has slightly better battery life.
4. G6 has HDR10 but complaint screen. If you watch a HDR content then you can find the differences in between HDR and Non HDR content.
5. G6's UI looks bad but smoother than S7's touchwiz. But you may use a Pixel launcher or Nova launcher to avoid that.
Last, You can install Pixel 2 modded camera apk easily on G6 where S7 might cause some issue. In this case, check with Xda forum in detail.
(Note: Both are IP68 certified phone)
I've used both and this is my over all experience.
I wanted to upgrade from the G6 to the Galaxy S9+ but found out that i lost the Verizon Edge plan when I switched from the GS7 to the G6. So i have to pay another $392. That makes me so mad. I waited till March to trade my phone in and now i can't. So it was cheaper for me to buy a refurbished GS7 off of ebay. Funny thing is they're older then the G6 but worth the same amount of money. I like the big screen of the G6 but the camera software of the GS7. Both cameras take muddy pictures. And i can record concerts good with the G7 as i used to have one. But the two concerts i recorded with the G6 the audio is awful sounding. the phone can't handle the bass and it causes the vocals to fade in and out like the limiter is out of sync. I notice with the GS7 i got now that the signal strength is 1-2 bars and when talking on the phone the HD voice sounded kind of muddy and hard to hear because of the weak signal. With the GS7 i don't remember what it the signal strength was but it was loud and clear when i was on the phone. So how does the signal strength and call quality compare to you guys?
Hello,
i have the oppertunity to buy an LG G6 for 360€ and i want a phone with a good camera. Is the G6 still its money worth? Or should i buy another phone, like a S7 or something?
G6 is still the best choice. I also just got it 3 weeks ago for 380€.
The cameras on the G6 are average, at best. I wouldn't recommend the S7 instead though, overall the G6 would be better.
Average? lol
my new g6 will arrive monday, if all goes well. i narrowed my choices to the g6, the s8, the mi mix 2 and the oneplus 5t. i chose the g6 because it's the cheapest, the smallest (i don't care for the curved display of the s8 a bit). for me the only thing against it is that it has the 2016 snapdragon, but i figured it will still be ok with my usage. otherwise the g6 seems on par (and in some respects better) than the other choices.
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Average? lol
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Yeah, that's right, G6 uses a IMX258 sensor which is REALLY awful for a flagship device.
If you're good and you plan using the Manual mode then go for G6, with Manual (thanks to the good lg software for camera) it takes beautiful photos, but if you plan to use the Auto Mode more go for something else.
Camera is trash.
Other features is decent.
Design is good (optional).
Software is stabile.
And why is it in your opinion trash?
Camera is decent with very natural colors. If you want more eye catchy processed pictures, then you have Google HDR+ camera port.
the camera is average. i would give it a 6. maybe 7 if you play with with manual mode. but front facing camera is totally horrible. a 3 at best.
The camera is excellent. Though that's only if you're using the GCam port. The LG app photo quality is just....bad.
My gf have s7 and she love my g6 camera so idk what you all talkb about s7 camera sucks
My thoughts are that most people can not handle a camera correctly lol
Cant take photos lul
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My thoughts are that most people can not handle a camera correctly lol
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G6 has a sensor of low budget phone, here is the list with other phones that use it: https://www.kimovil.com/en/list-smartphones-by-lens-model/sony-imx258
I'll repeat myself, if you're able to use manual mode at it's best then G6 can take beautiful photos if compared to any other flagship (beside in low light conditions and for the Front Camera), but in auto it sucks, and when i say "sucks" i compare it to other flagship devices, it does not take horrible photos like a 100 euros phone, but they're not as good as the photos taken with other flagship or in manual.
Don't believe it? I don't care, i just wanted to give you an answer based on my experience on almost 12 months with the G6, and after 10 months with G5, which, in Auto Mode, is still better.
And have you tried the Google Camera HDR+ port to take photos? The LG App isnt really good. And im not that guy who uses the automatic mode on a camera, the Auto Mode is always a compromise.
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And have you tried the Google Camera HDR+ port to take photos? The LG App isnt really good. And im not that guy who uses the automatic mode on a camera.
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Yes, and G5 is still better imho, obviously i'm always talking about auto mode, in manual it's a completely different story since the camera app on G6 is better than the one found on G5.
Take in count that the other flagships has also modded version of stock camera/porting, or other camera apps that improve considerably the performance of it.
As i said before the problem of G6 is that you start from a way worse sensor than competitors, that's it, you can do a lot trough software, but the hardware is still limited.
Then can you tell me, why the HTC U Ultra has a better chip than the G6 but takes worse photos?
Many cameras are looking supersaturated and thats not a sign for a good camera. Bud sadly many people like this unrealistic look.
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Then can you tell me, why the HTC U Ultra has a better chip than the G6 but takes worse photos?
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Probably because HTC's software is worse than the one found on LGs, better hardware doesn't necessary means better performance, power is nothing without control.
The most debatable thing is the Camera on G6. Just get the Gcam port and you'll never regret purchasing this device (Except the slow updates ). Its cheaper than Op5t and offers amazing screen and build quality over it. The Hi-Fi dac is fun to. And it's Ip68 water and dust resistant so it will handle Water dip easily . But if you prefer Latest hardware and high specs Op5t is the option. Although Lg G6 can handle all task easily too.
Just got a few questions for people who previously had the G8 (Or the V30/V30+). Is this device super heavy in comparison without the dual screen attachment? Is the screen quality noticeably different?
What are your pro's and con's?
I'm undecided as this is the first device I have no way to see in person.
I had the V30, my wife has the G8. It is a lot larger, but I wouldn't call it super heavy. I would say the screen quality of all 3 devices is similar. I have quickly gotten use to the larger size. My wife says she would rather have the larger screen.
Coming from G8 myself. This thing is noticeably heavier than the G8, but you get used to it quick. The screen size is a huge difference. You can do pretty much everything one handed on the G8 while there are many times you need both hands on this phone. No noticeable screen differences as in quality. The sound is a HUGE difference between the 2, the V60 is amazing sound, while the G8 sounded tinny and like it was in a tunnel and way quiet. The auto brightness on the V60 is awful, it goes to zero in a single lamp lit room while the G8 stayed around 15%. All in all, I'm very pleased with my upgrade.
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I had the V30, my wife has the G8. It is a lot larger, but I wouldn't call it super heavy. I would say the screen quality of all 3 devices is similar. I have quickly gotten use to the larger size. My wife says she would rather have the larger screen.
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Coming from G8 myself. This thing is noticeably heavier than the G8, but you get used to it quick. The screen size is a huge difference. You can do pretty much everything one handed on the G8 while there are many times you need both hands on this phone. No noticeable screen differences as in quality. The sound is a HUGE difference between the 2, the V60 is amazing sound, while the G8 sounded tinny and like it was in a tunnel and way quiet. The auto brightness on the V60 is awful, it goes to zero in a single lamp lit room while the G8 stayed around 15%. All in all, I'm very pleased with my upgrade.
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Yeah, I think I don't mind larger or heavier myself. I upgraded my iPhone 7 Plus to the 11 Pro Max. It's time to get bigger on my Android too.
My only concern was the lower PPI. Was hoping it wouldn't make the screen too blurry to me. I noticed my G8 won't go below 10% auto brightness. I think that is to avoid the black crush a lot of us saw with the V30 (I had to exchange 3 of them).
Sound quality, do you mean through the headphones or phone itself? I do not like the G8 for speakerphone at all, sounds terrible honestly.
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My only concern was the lower PPI. Was hoping it wouldn't make the screen too blurry to me. I noticed my G8 won't go below 10% auto brightness. I think that is to avoid the black crush a lot of us saw with the V30 (I had to exchange 3 of them).
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We are all hoping a future update fixes the auto brightness bug. It goes to 0 in a lamplit room and just impossible to see the screen. I prefer auto brightness myself, so having to go back and forth is quite annoying. The G8 definitely was great with that.
[/QUOTE] Sound quality, do you mean through the headphones or phone itself? I do not like the G8 for speakerphone at all, sounds terrible honestly.[/QUOTE]
Sound thru the phone speakers are amazing with the V60. I have yet to use headphones plug in, as I don't really have good ones, just the set that came with my V20 years ago.
I also went from the V30+ to the V60 and absolutely love the new phone. I can attest to the quality of the phone's speakers.
They sound dramatically better than the V30's, though a good set of headphones will always be where it's really at for LG phones. At least as long as they continue to include quality Quad DACs in their devices. But hey, an improvement is an improvement.
Despite having a lower resolution and a much larger screen, and thus, a lower DPI that's obvious to the eyes, I'm happy with the screen. The colors are crisp, the viewing angles seem limitless, and if you're considering a V60, you should already know that you're not getting a cutting edge display with a 90 Hz or 120 Hz refresh rate. I think they made the right call and wound up turning this phone into a friggin' beast when it comes to battery life. Auto-brightness settings could use some tweaking, but this is an issue that has affected earlier LG phones. So while it's a bit baffling that it shipped this way, there's precedent for it getting fixed via a software update eventually.
The phone is substantially bigger and heavier than V30 (but not uncomfortably so in my opinion), and so it's less conducive to one-handed use out-of-the-box. But I DON'T USE LG's out-of-the-box software, so a combination of Nova Launcher (to replace LG Home), Fluid Navigation Gestures (to replace Android 10's stock gestures), and special permission being granted to the latter via ADB and Fastboot means that I can easily do things like pull the notification shade down with a simple swipe down from anywhere on the screen, and other similar QoL tweaks. I had no issues basically recreating my preferred LG V30 software environment and home screen on the V60. I had to learn how to use ADB and Fastboot to do what I'd normally have used root to do, but it wasn't as tricky as I feared and the end result is close enough to what I enjoyed before, that it's made the transition pretty smooth.
All in all, I'm pretty thrilled with the phone. I don't care how good a phone's screen is, if it doesn't have expandable storage via SD cards and a 3.5MM headphone jack, I'm automatically out. And it doesn't hurt that LG's phones have a well-deserved reputation for having higher quality audio output than just about any other Android phone out there. I value that a lot more than I do screen resolution, camera quality & camera software, or even the OEM skins layered over Android OS.
I miss the tof front camera on the g8. No face unlock at all on the v60 sucks.
pre4speed said:
We are all hoping a future update fixes the auto brightness bug. It goes to 0 in a lamplit room and just impossible to see the screen. I prefer auto brightness myself, so having to go back and forth is quite annoying. The G8 definitely was great with that.
I know many have had this issue, but, I have had absolutely no problem with auto brightness. Even in a closet, or a car at night, I can't get my display to go below 12%. (Verizon)
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bilbo60 said:
pre4speed said:
We are all hoping a future update fixes the auto brightness bug. It goes to 0 in a lamplit room and just impossible to see the screen. I prefer auto brightness myself, so having to go back and forth is quite annoying. The G8 definitely was great with that.
I know many have had this issue, but, I have had absolutely no problem with auto brightness. Even in a closet, or a car at night, I can't get my display to go below 12%. (Verizon)
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What were you doing in a dark closet?
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Mejilan said:
bilbo60 said:
What were you doing in a dark closet?
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Just testing....for a friend! LOL But seriously have you experienced problems with auto brightness?
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bilbo60 said:
Mejilan said:
Just testing....for a friend! LOL But seriously have you experienced problems with auto brightness?
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It can be a little inconsistent at night compared to my old V30+, but I wouldn't consider it dramatically distracting.
I imagine a software update from LG will fix it (eventually), as I vaguely recall that the V30 had a similar issue in the beginning which was also fixed (eventually).
Sadly, "eventually" can usually take a while with LG.
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bilbo60 said:
pre4speed said:
We are all hoping a future update fixes the auto brightness bug. It goes to 0 in a lamplit room and just impossible to see the screen. I prefer auto brightness myself, so having to go back and forth is quite annoying. The G8 definitely was great with that.
I know many have had this issue, but, I have had absolutely no problem with auto brightness. Even in a closet, or a car at night, I can't get my display to go below 12%. (Verizon)
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I luckily find better outcomes without auto brightness. So I think I'll be okay with that. Is there any noticeable black crush or other issues at 0%?
Mejilan said:
I also went from the V30+ to the V60 and absolutely love the new phone. I can attest to the quality of the phone's speakers.
They sound dramatically better than the V30's, though a good set of headphones will always be where it's really at for LG phones. At least as long as they continue to include quality Quad DACs in their devices. But hey, an improvement is an improvement.
Despite having a lower resolution and a much larger screen, and thus, a lower DPI that's obvious to the eyes, I'm happy with the screen. The colors are crisp, the viewing angles seem limitless, and if you're considering a V60, you should already know that you're not getting a cutting edge display with a 90 Hz or 120 Hz refresh rate. I think they made the right call and wound up turning this phone into a friggin' beast when it comes to battery life. Auto-brightness settings could use some tweaking, but this is an issue that has affected earlier LG phones. So while it's a bit baffling that it shipped this way, there's precedent for it getting fixed via a software update eventually.
The phone is substantially bigger and heavier than V30 (but not uncomfortably so in my opinion), and so it's less conducive to one-handed use out-of-the-box. But I DON'T USE LG's out-of-the-box software, so a combination of Nova Launcher (to replace LG Home), Fluid Navigation Gestures (to replace Android 10's stock gestures), and special permission being granted to the latter via ADB and Fastboot means that I can easily do things like pull the notification shade down with a simple swipe down from anywhere on the screen, and other similar QoL tweaks. I had no issues basically recreating my preferred LG V30 software environment and home screen on the V60. I had to learn how to use ADB and Fastboot to do what I'd normally have used root to do, but it wasn't as tricky as I feared and the end result is close enough to what I enjoyed before, that it's made the transition pretty smooth.
All in all, I'm pretty thrilled with the phone. I don't care how good a phone's screen is, if it doesn't have expandable storage via SD cards and a 3.5MM headphone jack, I'm automatically out. And it doesn't hurt that LG's phones have a well-deserved reputation for having higher quality audio output than just about any other Android phone out there. I value that a lot more than I do screen resolution, camera quality & camera software, or even the OEM skins layered over Android OS.
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I agree, my biggest excitement is the battery (G8 is pretty bad). So I'd realistically like to get this phone for when we're able to travel again. I listen to music on trips and don't need the hassle of Bluetooth headphones. I absolutely can't stand no headphone jack on an Android.
Also a fan of SD cards.
I'm looking at that LG Velvet too but I'm more than 90% sure I'll go with the V60 anyways. It'll have that beast of a battery and I don't have to buy the dual screen I don't need with it.
Did you write or read a post about using ADB and Fastboot? Just curious what tweaks you did/were able to do on the device.
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Septembersrain said:
bilbo60 said:
I agree, my biggest excitement is the battery (G8 is pretty bad). So I'd realistically like to get this phone for when we're able to travel again. I listen to music on trips and don't need the hassle of Bluetooth headphones. I absolutely can't stand no headphone jack on an Android.
Also a fan of SD cards.
I'm looking at that LG Velvet too but I'm more than 90% sure I'll go with the V60 anyways. It'll have that beast of a battery and I don't have to buy the dual screen I don't need with it.
Did you write or read a post about using ADB and Fastboot? Just curious what tweaks you did/were able to do on the device.
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Velvet looks like it's going to be a bit more mid-range. From what I've read, it'll have a weaker Snapdragon than the one powering the V60.
It seems like the V-series are their new flagships, Velvet will replace the G-series, and the G-series/Velvet will no longer be their beast mode flagships going forward.
As for ADB, all I did was give Fluid Navigation Gestures the permission it needs to hide the nav bar (normally it's a root thing), and uninstall a TON of AT&T and LG bloatware.
I just pulled up a random guide via Google. The process is essentially the same for most phones. Just don't go nuts and delete something critical like System UI!
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