Hi all,
I searched through a lot of forums and video reviews but couldn't see anyone doing a clear review of the quality of sound from the headphone jack.
I'm considering getting the F1 to replace my Axon 7 so wondering if the sound quality will be much worse?
If you can compare it with Axon 7 it would be great.
I knew about the GSMarena test of audio quality but that may not be the same in real life. Also it seems that the phone didn't utilise the Snapdragon 845 chip's audio capability which should be better than older phones.
Thanks
Anyone?
I don't know why people ask this question on every phone's page? IF there is no dedicated hardware used for audio it will should sound same as all SD SOCs. You can try all kinds of fancy software optimisations and equalizers it doesn't matter as long as the audio hardware is the same.
For answering your question in particular, IIRC Axon 7 has dedicated AKM 4490en for processing audio signal which is top notch. So NO Poco or any other phone with SD SOC audio is not even come close in audio quality for that matter. And since we are there take my advice and don't sell that phone(AXON 7). For it's audio capabilities you can take out the sim and can use it as a Android DAP for as long as it can serve you. A simple android DAP sells for quite a bit. I was myself very interested in this phone for audio but since it was not available in my country I went for LG V20 which I sold 2 weeks back.
I haven't had the pleasure to try the Axon 7 before, but I have used the HTC 10. The amp on this thing is weak,on my IEMs I had to crank it up to around 60-70% to get to my usual volume. Compared to a HTC U11 dongle (with DAC in it) that I have around, the dongle simply sounds better.
With all of that said, the fact that the headphone jack is there is still very much appreciated.
The headphone lacks depth and bass though it can improved through through Mi Sound Enhancer but still won't be somewhere near phones with built-in DAC.
We can hope for upcoming Dolby support soon.
I read a lot of threads back when the Poco F1 was released and a lot of people complained about low volume of audio output from headphone jack and low clarity.
It is very hard to compare audio quality if you dont have 2 devices side by side.
So I request people who have the Poco F1 and some other phone like the Redmi Note Pro, Moto, Nokia etc to compare the volume and audio clarity.
If you have MIUI device use the same audio settings.
Can anyone please do this?
Edit: Sorry for double post. Thread was not showing up so I replied here.
I have Axon 7 and POCO F1. I think that quality on Poco is great. When i used earphones with my axon 7 with low impedance (KZ ZS6 - 16 ohm) i heard hiss when i turned wifi on... On poco F1 i dont have any problemes and quality for source Tidal (HIFI),Spotify (Premium), Youtube Music is very good. (headphone - beyredynamic COP) . In next days i will have external dac SMSL IDEA. I will try compare sound quality between poco inernal dac and my new external dac.
+ Dolby is very very bad. On axon it was first thing that i turned off. Viper FX is best.
Martinxyzko said:
I have Axon 7 and POCO F1. I think that quality on Poco is great. When i used earphones with my axon 7 with low impedance (KZ ZS6 - 16 ohm) i heard hiss when i turned wifi on... On poco F1 i dont have any problemes and quality for source Tidal (HIFI),Spotify (Premium), Youtube Music is very good. (headphone - beyredynamic COP) . In next days i will have external dac SMSL IDEA. I will try compare sound quality between poco inernal dac and my new external dac.
+ Dolby is very very bad. On axon it was first thing that i turned off. Viper FX is best.
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What about the volume? Is it high enough?
Martinxyzko said:
I have Axon 7 and POCO F1. I think that quality on Poco is great. When i used earphones with my axon 7 with low impedance (KZ ZS6 - 16 ohm) i heard hiss when i turned wifi on... On poco F1 i dont have any problemes and quality for source Tidal (HIFI),Spotify (Premium), Youtube Music is very good. (headphone - beyredynamic COP) . In next days i will have external dac SMSL IDEA. I will try compare sound quality between poco inernal dac and my new external dac.
+ Dolby is very very bad. On axon it was first thing that i turned off. Viper FX is best.
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Duude, we have the same IEM, KZ ZS6. Poco does create a static noise in a specific situation (can only be heard when nothing is playing):
1. Enable tap to wake.
2. Don't play any audio with Poco.
3. Connect your IEM.
4. Lock the phone or just manually turn-off the display.
5. Rest your whole hand on the LCD, you'll hear a static noise and mine was prominent on the left channel. I noticed that the static noise is stronger when the LCD is turned-off.
How did I find it?
Since fingerprint cannot be disabled, I always place my Poco in my pocket with the LCD facing my leg and I always hear static noise every sone transition.
I disabled double tap to wake due to this.
Weird interaction. lol.
adfds said:
What about the volume? Is it high enough?
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Yes, on my Beyerdynamic COP I need set volume to 40-50% for comfortable listening (Spotify). I think with all IEMs or over ear headphone to 64 ohm you will not have problem.
3DRIAN said:
Duude, we have the same IEM, KZ Zs6.
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Funny. On poco I don't have problem with kz zs6, but on axon 7 it was really bad when I heard static noise from WiFi... I think that Kz zs6 are very sensitive headphones
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Just got a mate 10 Pro to compare to my u11+ and found that every dongle used with the Mate 10 Pro sounds so quiet. The U11+ is so much louder but even the OP3T and S8 seem louder. Has anyone else found this to be the case? I've used the stock dongle, Google's and Razerphone and they are LOUD on S8 and U11+ but extremely quiet on Mate 10 Pro
Have you tried playing around with the sound option? Specifically the Huawei Histen Sound Effects option.
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Have you tried playing around with the sound option? Specifically the Huawei Histen Sound Effects option.
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Yeah and it makes things sound different, it's basically just an EQ right. Doesn't do anything in terms of making sound louder and boosting everything via EQ for loudness is simply a no go. Via Bluetooth it's fine because my P7s built in amp is used. My wired headsets sound horrible through the Mate 10 Pro though.
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Yeah and it makes things sound different, it's basically just an EQ right. Doesn't do anything in terms of making sound louder and boosting everything via EQ for loudness is simply a no go. Via Bluetooth it's fine because my P7s built in amp is used. My wired headsets sound horrible through the Mate 10 Pro though.
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Same here.
Sound could be better honestly.
With dongle or with Bluetooth headset, sound is just ok...
Audio capabilities of this phone are a big disappointment in my opinion. If someone can help to make things better please let us know.
Same issue. Mate and 10 lite
No issue whatsoever. I bought the fabulous sony-wh-1000xm2 and live is seriously good. Streaming high res flacs over 990 kbs LDAC
With Mate 10, even with cheap Philips in-ear headset (Philips-SHE3595BK) sound is very clear and loud.
I can't even imagine with a good quality headset.
Using some mdr-1a and the USB c headphones from htc bolt/10 Evo. Both sound very very good, clear and Loud.
I have rooted my phone and can try to find out if there is a way to boost audio via USB c headphones / the adapter
Sent from my HUAWEI BLA-L29 using XDA Labs
Sound is good but imo, not enough high with headsets
Yes, the max output level is quite low for the dongle. Over BT it's the same as other sources in output level since that's not set by the phone.
Is this on European phones only ? could it be the EU volume limit as seen on many mp3 players etc ?
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Is this on European phones only ? could it be the EU volume limit as seen on many mp3 players etc ?
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Asia model here. Again: it's only playback through the dongle, not Bluetooth.
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Is this on European phones only ? could it be the EU volume limit as seen on many mp3 players etc ?
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I think so.
It was always like that with all devices I had before.
Need root to increase level sadly
@Galactus so I got the u11 today and tried the dongle on the huawei. and man! it IS SO MUCH LOUDER and everything sounds better too!
With my IE80 the sound is loud enough... But the impedance is also only 16Ohms...
Since there isn't a headphone jack anyways, you can buy the Good Pixel USB Dac, heard it's quite good, at "iPhone" level.
Luinwethion said:
With my IE80 the sound is loud enough... But the impedance is also only 16Ohms...
Since there isn't a headphone jack anyways, you can buy the Good Pixel USB Dac, heard it's quite good, at "iPhone" level.
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I did the audio tweak now, and it is much louder with original dongle and audio is good too
Sent from my HUAWEI BLA-L29 using XDA Labs
On my Mate 10 non pro bt audio is not as loud as my mate 9 but wired is good.
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@Galactus so I got the u11 today and tried the dongle on the huawei. and man! it IS SO MUCH LOUDER and everything sounds better too!
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Indeed it is and yet the U11+ is even louder
Not that it is necessary but the extra voltage and lower volume brings out more of the sound etc.
The best dongle I have used is the Razerphone dongle followed by the Pixel 2 dongle. The HTC dongle is actually the worst, but still better than what Huawei bundled with the Mate 10 Pro
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Indeed it is and yet the U11+ is even louder
Not that it is necessary but the extra voltage and lower volume brings out more of the sound etc.
The best dongle I have used is the Razerphone dongle followed by the Pixel 2 dongle. The HTC dongle is actually the worst, but still better than what Huawei bundled with the Mate 10 Pro
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oh crazy, then I gonna order it, if it is available in germany
Ok I searched for Solution on google, it seems no body else is facing this issue. So here is my problem I migrated on to v30 from v20 and I noticed that whenever i play a song with quad dac on there is a very audible static noise in the background, like if the mic on or a better example would it feels like the song is being played on a radio.. where along with song there is a hint of crackle and white noise. My V20 never had this problem.
Is anyone else facing the issue, BTW I am on Philippine oreo KDZ, and will LG cover the warranty or should i wait and flash Indian Oreo to claim warranty??
did you try different audio sources, headphones, also try some speakers
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Ok I searched for Solution on google, it seems no body else is facing this issue. So here is my problem I migrated on to v30 from v20 and I noticed that whenever i play a song with quad dac on there is a very audible static noise in the background, like if the mic on or a better example would it feels like the song is being played on a radio.. where along with song there is a hint of crackle and white noise. My V20 never had this problem.
Is anyone else facing the issue, BTW I am on Philippine oreo KDZ, and will LG cover the warranty or should i wait and flash Indian Oreo to claim warranty??
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Look: you ever used the "high performance" mode of the WCD9xxx in-built DAC of any previous Android phone ?
This raises up the output but also comes with the cost of higher "white noise" / static, etc. - this in turn is able to drive headphones with a high impedance Ω
The same applies to the dedicated "quad dac" - it has high output by default and thus is to be experienced best with "high quality" (well, most high quality headphones have higher impedance than the very cheap headphones).
There's a noticable difference for me when switching between e.g. the EP630, Xiaomi Pistons and the provided B & O Headphones that came along with the V30.
So there is NO issue and there is not really a solution but to use it in the way that it was meant to be used
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What @iRS_ wrote (other headphones with higher impedance)
iRS_ said:
did you try different audio sources, headphones, also try some speakers
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I did like, never had this problem on my Lg V20
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I did like, never had this problem on my Lg V20
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i am asking if you tried all this on v30, NOT v20 ?
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Look: you ever used the "high performance" mode of the WCD9xxx in-built DAC of any previous Android phone ?
This raises up the output but also comes with the cost of higher "white noise" / static, etc. - this in turn is able to drive headphones with a high impedance Ω
The same applies to the dedicated "quad dac" - it has high output by default and thus is to be experienced best with "high quality" (well, most high quality headphones have higher impedance than the very cheap headphones).
There's a noticable difference for me when switching between e.g. the EP630, Xiaomi Pistons and the provided B & O Headphones that came along with the V30.
So there is NO issue and there is not really a solution but to use it in the way that it was meant to be used
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What @iRS_ wrote (other headphones with higher impedance)
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If a DAC has distortion and audible static interference then its not doing its job. In simple layman terms, Switching on DAC should improve sound stage and frequency response and it is noticeable on any even basic headphones. Like I mentioned in my post I have Lg V20 too, and the DAC on that phone doesn't have any of the issue which i mentioned about my V30, to which you say is not an issue. Also Headphone (Mi Piston) is not an issue.. coz the same headphones works perfectly on V20..
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If a DAC has distortion and audible static interference then its not doing its job. In simple layman terms, Switching on DAC should improve sound stage and frequency response and it is noticeable on any even basic headphones. Like I mentioned in my post I have Lg V20 too, and the DAC on that phone doesn't have any of the issue which i mentioned about my V30, to which you say is not an issue. Also Headphone (Mi Piston) is not an issue.. coz the same headphones works perfectly on V20..
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well, it could be due to how the driver & kernel is compiled (so it would be an out-of-the-box issue) - I've experienced this kind of increase in static noise on the Z5 once going from fstack-protector-regular to fstack-protector-strong (more functions protected or "tainted" in that case)
https://outflux.net/blog/archives/2014/01/27/fstack-protector-strong/
https://lwn.net/Articles/584225/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffer_overflow_protection
Since the stock kernel is built that way by default the audio output quality could be somewhat worse compared to V20 (if there the kernel was compiled with fstack-protector-regular).
I can clearly hear how there's some distortion and audible static noise when the screen is off, quad dac enabled and changing volume (up or down) - the amp first is gone, the output is much more silent and there sound is less clear - more static can be heard
I've attributed this to the quality of the audio tracks I'm listening to - since with fully digitally created tracks this didn't seem to occur that much.
Also there's one particular issue I had forgotten:
Once connecting the Xiaomi Hybrid Pro and having Quad DAC disabled (so the stock WCD94xx used) either on left or right channel (every several seconds) there is solely (no other output) very loud static noise while playing music [similar to the static on old-ass TVs where only static is being shown and similar sound played],
when enabling quad dac/ES9028PRO it's gone. No matter what audio track is being played this was happening - I wasn't sure whether this was a software or hardware issue and since this was only happening with one particular type of headphones/IEMs I keep the phone so far.
Since you mention that the static noise appears along music output I doubt it's a similar issue you're observing.
taus90 said:
I did like, never had this problem on my Lg V20
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Yes I did.. And by v20 i mean i tried all Flac, same mp3 on both the devices, wired speakers, headphones, so it doesnt seem the problem is with any of the external devices, , tried different music player, same problem it has to be issue with V30's dac or the headphone jack its just when i start playing a song with Hifi option on, the static and light crackles starts and when the song finishes playing or I pause the song the noise stops after like 15 seconds or if i turn off the dac the noise stops immediately. But toggling hifi option on and off without any music playing the issue doesnt exist, its just when a song starts and DAC kicks the issue appears, so i doubt its even headphone jack
zacharias.maladroit said:
well, it could be due to how the driver & kernel is compiled (so it would be an out-of-the-box issue) - I've experienced this kind of increase in static noise on the Z5 once going from fstack-protector-regular to fstack-protector-strong (more functions protected or "tainted" in that case)
https://outflux.net/blog/archives/2014/01/27/fstack-protector-strong/
https://lwn.net/Articles/584225/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffer_overflow_protection
Since the stock kernel is built that way by default the audio output quality could be somewhat worse compared to V20 (if there the kernel was compiled with fstack-protector-regular).
I can clearly hear how there's some distortion and audible static noise when the screen is off, quad dac enabled and changing volume (up or down) - the amp first is gone, the output is much more silent and there sound is less clear - more static can be heard
I've attributed this to the quality of the audio tracks I'm listening to - since with fully digitally created tracks this didn't seem to occur that much.
Also there's one particular issue I had forgotten:
Once connecting the Xiaomi Hybrid Pro and having Quad DAC disabled (so the stock WCD94xx used) either on left or right channel (every several seconds) there is solely (no other output) very loud static noise while playing music [similar to the static on old-ass TVs where only static is being shown and similar sound played],
when enabling quad dac/ES9028PRO it's gone. No matter what audio track is being played this was happening - I wasn't sure whether this was a software or hardware issue and since this was only happening with one particular type of headphones/IEMs I keep the phone so far.
Since you mention that the static noise appears along music output I doubt it's a similar issue you're observing.
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I wish i could have tested on indian nougat when i had it, to see if it is oreo related issue, now i have to wait for Indian Oreo to see if that rom has the solution. I think Ill probably send it to LG to fix it while its under warranty
Stock Nougat, just going to start the bootloader unlock process, but sonically it's been flawless, orgasmic actually, with Sennheiser 6xx's, Etymotic HF2's and ER4's as well as BT to a UE Boom. Only the occasional crackle because my HF2's cabling is getting old, so sadly I'd think you have a bad unit.
Even I am experiencing the exact same , I'm on Indian Oreo kdz. When I turn on high impedance mode with sennhieser hd 598 and then connect it to my ath e 40 , I get a continuous hiss throughout the song.. sometimes it's irritating really.. I want to ask if someone who has rooted and using whiskyomega mod having same issues ?
By the way I don't get it on hd 598 , it probably dampens it..
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Even I am experiencing the exact same , I'm on Indian Oreo kdz. When I turn on high impedance mode with sennhieser hd 598 and then connect it to my ath e 40 , I get a continuous hiss throughout the song.. sometimes it's irritating really.. I want to ask if someone who has rooted and using whiskyomega mod having same issues ?
By the way I don't get it on hd 598 , it probably dampens it..
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The HD598 is 50 ohms (more resistance) while the E40 is merely 12 ohms, with a dynamic driver, I am guessing fairly sensitive. I wouldn't use HIM with earphones like that in the first place. That said, V30 is known for having a very low noise floor, so I wouldn't expect hiss, even with HIM and sensitive earphones.
Which music player do you use and what is your music source? Unfortunately V30 will upsample 44.1Khz sources (i.e. all CDs and most streaming sources) to 48KHz before sending it to the DAC. This should not be audible in most cases, but a few people are able to hear it when using very sensitive IEMs (typically balanced armature drivers). It is described in the opening post of the thread linked below:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/music-apps-tips-and-tricks-for-the-lg-v30.868978/
The way around it is to use a music player that bypasses the standard Android audio path, such as UAPP or Neutron, both of which use their own audio driver that sends music directly to the ESS DAC.
Another possible explanation is if some EQ or other processing in your music player is messing with the data before it reaches the DAC. If you try playing with UAPP using Bit-perfect mode, that's a great way to determine if it is a hardware problem (which is possible) or something in the digital audio path. You can download a free trial using the link below:
http://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/uapp-trial
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The HD598 is 50 ohms (more resistance) while the E40 is merely 12 ohms, with a dynamic driver, I am guessing fairly sensitive. I wouldn't use HIM with earphones like that in the first place. That said, V30 is known for having a very low noise floor, so I wouldn't expect hiss, even with HIM and sensitive earphones.
Which music player do you use and what is your music source? Unfortunately V30 will upsample 44.1Khz sources (i.e. all CDs and most streaming sources) to 48KHz before sending it to the DAC. This should not be audible in most cases, but a few people are able to hear it when using very sensitive IEMs (typically balanced armature drivers). It is described in the opening post of the thread linked below:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/music-apps-tips-and-tricks-for-the-lg-v30.868978/
The way around it is to use a music player that bypasses the standard Android audio path, such as UAPP or Neutron, both of which use their own audio driver that sends music directly to the ESS DAC.
Another possible explanation is if some EQ or other processing in your music player is messing with the data before it reaches the DAC. If you try playing with UAPP using Bit-perfect mode, that's a great way to determine if it is a hardware problem (which is possible) or something in the digital audio path. You can download a free trial using the link below:
http://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/uapp-trial
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Will try those apps out.. i always use the in built music app. And ath e 40 sound just amazing with the DAC, that kinda quality just gives me a high , so I can't let it go.. I never imagined those earphones could be so good !!
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Ok I searched for Solution on google, it seems no body else is facing this issue. So here is my problem I migrated on to v30 from v20 and I noticed that whenever i play a song with quad dac on there is a very audible static noise in the background, like if the mic on or a better example would it feels like the song is being played on a radio.. where along with song there is a hint of crackle and white noise. My V20 never had this problem.
Is anyone else facing the issue, BTW I am on Philippine oreo KDZ, and will LG cover the warranty or should i wait and flash Indian Oreo to claim warranty??
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This sounds similar to what I experienced with my V30S using Beyerdynamic iDX200 headphones with the extension cable design*.
At first I thought I had received a defective V30S. Then I found the problem was limited to those particular headphones with their included extension cable. With the extension cable removed, and with any other headphones, the V30S audio quality problem disappeared. And the iDX200 sound fine on my other phone, as long as the extension cable connection is clean (it is prone to signal degradation by contamination).
My guess is that the V30 system that measures load impedance on the 3.5mm jack has some kind of anomaly related to imdedance/VSWR imposed by the connection of the iDX200 extension cable, even if that connection is clean.
Try different headphones.
(* The iDX200 cable is too short by itself, it has to be used with a short extension, either the included one or another.)
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Ok I searched for Solution on google, it seems no body else is facing this issue. So here is my problem I migrated on to v30 from v20 and I noticed that whenever i play a song with quad dac on there is a very audible static noise in the background, like if the mic on or a better example would it feels like the song is being played on a radio.. where along with song there is a hint of crackle and white noise. My V20 never had this problem.
Is anyone else facing the issue, BTW I am on Philippine oreo KDZ, and will LG cover the warranty or should i wait and flash Indian Oreo to claim warranty??
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I have found a solution!!
Go to hifi settings in balance section, reduce the volume from left and right to as low as possible, I've kept it zero and just raise the volume to your liking..
In my case the hiss has reduced drastically to the point I can ignore it ! Hope this works for you!
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The HD598 is 50 ohms (more resistance) while the E40 is merely 12 ohms, with a dynamic driver, I am guessing fairly sensitive. I wouldn't use HIM with earphones like that in the first place. That said, V30 is known for having a very low noise floor, so I wouldn't expect hiss, even with HIM and sensitive earphones.
Which music player do you use and what is your music source? Unfortunately V30 will upsample 44.1Khz sources (i.e. all CDs and most streaming sources) to 48KHz before sending it to the DAC. This should not be audible in most cases, but a few people are able to hear it when using very sensitive IEMs (typically balanced armature drivers). It is described in the opening post of the thread linked below:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/music-apps-tips-and-tricks-for-the-lg-v30.868978/
The way around it is to use a music player that bypasses the standard Android audio path, such as UAPP or Neutron, both of which use their own audio driver that sends music directly to the ESS DAC.
Another possible explanation is if some EQ or other processing in your music player is messing with the data before it reaches the DAC. If you try playing with UAPP using Bit-perfect mode, that's a great way to determine if it is a hardware problem (which is possible) or something in the digital audio path. You can download a free trial using the link below:
http://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/uapp-trial
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THANKS A TON!! uapp works like a charm , zero noise and never before heard sound quality !!! I'm Loveñ it !! I couldn't configure neutron though
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THANKS A TON!! uapp works like a charm , zero noise and never before heard sound quality !!! I'm Loveñ it !! I couldn't configure neutron though
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Great! I'm glad you like it.
And interesting that it solved the noise problem too. That most likely means it was the artifacts caused by upsampling 44.1KHz to 48KHz (performed by Android's standard audio path) that you were able to hear.
UAPP is my favorite too, both for its features, its ability to play redbook (44.1KHz/16bit) without upsampling, and for its user interface. Neutron can do that too, but I could never understand its user interface.
In UAPP, under HiRes Driver flags, make sure to select the MQA flag if you play MQA files or streams. This will ensure that the ESS Sabre DAC is fully utilitized for MQA playback.
Correction- high impedance mode when switched on, even this app makes the noise , I had tried without the high impedance mode..?
but still ,otherwise quality seems better than the stock ! ?
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Correction- high impedance mode when switched on, even this app makes the noise , I had tried without the high impedance mode..?
but still ,otherwise quality seems better than the stock ! ?
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Something is wrong, that just doesn't make sense. If anything, there should be less noise (if the theory of HIM activating more DAC units is true). And in any case is the V30 known for having very little noise, in any of its modes.
How do you trigger HIM? If you plug your headphones/earphones in directly (no adapters of extension cables) is volume loud enough?
If you play music through an impedance adapter, then I suggest you don't. Unplug the adapter once you've achieved HIM, then plug your headphones/earphones into the extension cable (or TRS adapter).
And if you don't need HIM to drive your headphones/earphones loud enough, I suggest you don't need it for maximum sound quality. The V30 was designed to adapt its output mode to the connected headphones/earphones. While it fails to do that correctly with planar magnetic ones, it does it correctly on most others.
Still, unless you are playing through an impedance adapter (which will change the frequency response of your headphones/earphones) or through a poor quality extension cable or TRS adapter, I cannot see a good reason why HIM should have more noise.
Ath e40- when i connect without adapter, loud enough, okayish sound.. Just like any other device..
There was this one time the high impedance mode got activated by mistake, mustve been a glitch! but my god the sound !! - more punch, more soundstage , even minute details audible , more dynamic!! way more louder! Then i searched around and found a way to trigger it everytime by using ath cable extention and sennhieser hd 598 , then unplug senn without unplugging the cable And then connecting e40.
This time i could hear the hiss.. Whenever i plug the earphones only, theres no hiss, and quality is okay.. even though the hifi option is on. i guess it just uses the snapdragon dac or whatever.
to summarize-
if i connect the cable first and then e 40 - sound is louder and okay.
only e 40- sound is okay.
senn and then e40 (to enter high impedance mode,probably uses the quad dac for real this time)- sound is amazing!!!! but with hiss...
I've only used the stock music player uptil now.
now i use uapp- it still gives me the hiss when high impedance is on. otherwise the sound is a bit better than stock music player.
Hi all,
How is the quality for the 3.5mm Audio Jack?
I've had a Zenfone 2 for a few years now and my earphones sound awesome with it. I need another dual SIM + MicroSD slot phone. Zenfone 6 is too expensive so I am considering the Note 9 S instead but music from the earphone jack is VERY important.
Help me out please.
Thanks!
Sound quality is good but volume is rather low. Apparently MIUI have a problem with the volume. I tested bluetooth audio (with Sony WH-1000XM3 headphones) and is almost unlistenable, very very low volume. I also tested wired headphones plugged to jack, and the volume show a little improvement, but is noticeable lower than my previous Xiaomi Mi A1. I also tested the Note 9S with USB DAC+Amp, Hidizs Sonata HD. Again, there is an improvement over jack or bluetooth, but noticeable low than other devices (at half media volume). I think is a MIUI issue and not device-dependent, because I tested a Redmi Note 8 and showed the same issues (at least with BT headphones)
Currently I don't recommend the Redmi Note 9S for listening to music, until Xiaomi releases a fix.
Just to confirm that on my 9S (Global Rom 11.0.8) the music volume on the 3.5 jack is a little bit low for my liking, it could do with being a few notches louder.
I also have the Sony bluetooth headphones WH 1000XM3. The volume and quality is very good on Bluetooth. Very loud and excellent quality.
Just wondering xsam123 in the above post - is your volume set to Max on the headphone touch panel? We also have a redmi note 8pro in the household, the BT volume is very good on that phone too.
Here is the perfect solution for breath taking sound in Redmi note 9 prom
In MIUI OS Sound quality is very bad.
So I always change MIUI with AOSP rom via Custom recovery.
After coming to AOSP, We can install modules named as "Ainur Narsil"
After this module, You will get Sound quality like flagship model.
Enjoy!!
Hello All,
I have just gotten a Poco F1 and installed the Pixel experience plus on it. I have issues with the audio quality it puts out being rubbish. I get plenty of volume, usually listening at around 65=80%. It just sounds so muddy and tinny with no definition in it on my V-Moda Crossfade headphones, in both wired and wireless. I don't really know how to describe it, like there is no layers in the sound that I am used to hearing from my previous phone a Sony XA2 . (not saying the Sony is the best sounding thing but its a lot better then what i am getting from my Poco F1)
I have tried playing with android4viper which made it a little better but it is still barely listenable
Is their something wrong with this ROM with using the SD845 decoder / DAC? Is their any way i can improve it? I cannot find anything on the forum relating to my issue. Or am i just being to picky? Would i be better off running a USB C DAC with an OTG cable?
Thank you for everything!
Frostymcstu said:
Hello All,
I have just gotten a Poco F1 and installed the Pixel experience plus on it. I have issues with the audio quality it puts out being rubbish. I get plenty of volume, usually listening at around 65=80%. It just sounds so muddy and tinny with no definition in it on my V-Moda Crossfade headphones, in both wired and wireless. I don't really know how to describe it, like there is no layers in the sound that I am used to hearing from my previous phone a Sony XA2 . (not saying the Sony is the best sounding thing but its a lot better then what i am getting from my Poco F1)
I have tried playing with android4viper which made it a little better but it is still barely listenable
Is their something wrong with this ROM with using the SD845 decoder / DAC? Is their any way i can improve it? I cannot find anything on the forum relating to my issue. Or am i just being to picky? Would i be better off running a USB C DAC with an OTG cable?
Thank you for everything!
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Nope, You're better off with a external DAC like the Mojo, Ive relegated my mojo to secondary phone status after trying out many different audio mods, All of them barely helping out in any way. My older LG V30 still kicks ass in that department.
Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
majloft said:
Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
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One plus Nord 2 is a budget phone yet not cheaper than other budget phones, yet they give a low-quality device like this. Try listening in a different Bluetooth headset.
No issue here, I have samsung galaxy buds+ TWS (aac mode) and a Marshall Mid (aptx mode) and bluetooth quality is perfect in both cases.
And for the lack of Dirac support in bluetooth mode I use the app "Poweramp Equalizer" to get some more bass in my headset
For music you can try jethdaudio player. It is extremely good.
I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
sonai365 said:
I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
majloft said:
So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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Maybe a faulty piece really should just visit a service centre with all those headsets and see if it can be fixed if possible test out some more headsets by asking from your friends. Also check the settings of the music app you are using it's unlikely but still possible that it's set on low
Can't get it replaced.. Cracked the screen 5 minutes after I took the phone out of the box
Most folks dont know this, but bluetooth is a modern NAME for 'A' software version of hardware based tech capable of transmitting 240v AC through the air.
Tunguska anyone? That was the test, and the origional copywright is owned by TESLA.
Bluetooth, was designed to do the same, it's designed for AC current, explaining why bluetooth digital audio is the WORST sound ever invented.
Blutooth sounds so crap due to the following:
1: The inventors of digital audio decided to remove EVERY frequency the human ear cant hear. (according to who?)
2: They are now removing the lower base frequencies that we COULD hear, if we had say speaker's like my set of BW speaker's used by the BBC in the 60's and 70's, which can produce EVERY frequency. To make these speakers today is £14.000 PER speaker.
3: By removing all lower frequencies, they removed what is known in music, as the BODY of sound. They started this with digital techno, aka goa trance. I stopped buying musical digital instruments just because of this. If you take a 90's version of say 'Rising High's Church of Extacy' ( The tune that officially killed rock and roll due to it's pure analogue sound quality, hardness, and the deepest bass ) then play it through bluetooth, all you hear is tsstsstsstss, because the tweaters you think are great sounding speakers literally cant play anything under the highhat, without ECHO to fake the BASS.
If it's audio QUALITY you want, DROP bluetooth. Simple.
Another note:
As a dj of over 40 years in the undergound dance music scene, the one thing I cant understand is why I now have no CHOICE but to buy headphones for djing with a bluetooth mic built in! This allows whoever is spying on what we SAY to record my tune or live mix before I leave the gig, and claim it as their own. Try buying decent ANALOGUE headfones for djing.
Final note.
Nfc: the modern day verion of blutooth. Interfere's with bluetooth audio in that the AC current also has it's own magnetic field, which can, like binaural beats, interfere with bluetooth. Most fones use bluetooth AND Nfc. nae luck.
I personnaly know the best hacker in Scotland. 12 letters after his name in computer sciences...! He wrote the bluetooth app the gov called tap n trace, and he sold it to them for £30.000, they added Nfc (Near field Communication) and got most people in the world to install it in their fone. NIce one Gi88's!
Bluetooth... did you bite?
majloft said:
So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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I am using my Sony WH-1000XM3 and it supports LDAC. The audio quality is great with support for equaliser. The only way to get LDAC was change the mode from connection stability to sound quality mode in sony headphone app. By default, it supports SBC. Pls check your headphone's app and also check if your headphone supports relevant codec.hope this helps.
I had a similar issue with my Nord 2 and my Libratone Too BT speaker, sound was horrible, like an old cassette player. The speaker only supports the SBC codec, I think.
I was able to fix the sound quality by enabling developer options and switching to AVRCP 1.6 and MAP 1.4 there.
Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
the problem is just with the freebuds 4i, but I don't understand why..
LeClair said:
Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
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