I'm unrooted Samsung s9 plus user. Use force doze and naptime for faster dozing. My question is which is better greenify or the built in "always sleeping" option for preventing apps from running in the background?
Greenify, I am unrooted as well and have noticed great battery life improvements since using it. I have it set up to use aggressive doze.
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Hi, I'm new in Marshmallow and I was wondering about what apps should I put in Doze whitelist.
At the moment I've put Amplify, BetterBatteryStats, Greenify and Wakelock Detector. However Greenify is shown in my battery stats as consuming 3% of total battery.
Considering I have xposed (and have chosen "shallow hibernation" and "aggressive doze" in greenify settings), should I choose "optimize battery" for Greenify in Doze settings or not?
is greenify running as device administrator?
whatever, u shud put it on whitelist.
No need to, having xposed (and boost mode on). I'll let it on whitelist anyway, thank you!
Yes or else the auto hibernation won't work.
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So the correct answer is to uncheck battery optimization for Greenify in doze settings?
I'm using CM13 and new to using Greenify as I just bought the donation package but have some questions that I'm not sure about.
1. I have instant messaging apps (Whatsapp and WeChat) and games on my phone, when I finish using the app, I press the home button and have them running in the background, does that uses more battery or do I need to add the apps to the hibernation list?
2. Should I use hibernate or shallow hibernation as I switched from iPhone to OnePlus 3 and on the iPhone when I reopen the app, it will return to where I left it.
3. I have enabled aggressive doze so that it will go to sleep mode when the screen is off, will I get delay Whatsapp and Wechat messages or do I need to add it to the whitelist so notifications comes instantly when I receive them?
Many thanks!
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I'm using CM13 and new to using Greenify as I just bought the donation package but have some questions that I'm not sure about.
1. I have instant messaging apps (Whatsapp and WeChat) and games on my phone, when I finish using the app, I press the home button and have them running in the background, does that uses more battery or do I need to add the apps to the hibernation list?
2. Should I use hibernate or shallow hibernation as I switched from iPhone to OnePlus 3 and on the iPhone when I reopen the app, it will return to where I left it.
3. I have enabled aggressive doze so that it will go to sleep mode when the screen is off, will I get delay Whatsapp and Wechat messages or do I need to add it to the whitelist so notifications comes instantly when I receive them?
Many thanks!
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1. Any app which is not greenified will run in the background once it is opened and then dismissed by the Home button. As far as the IM apps are concerned, the advice of the Dev is not to greenify them if you rely on them. However, some people have successfully greenified those IM apps which use GCM without issues but some others complain of delayed notifications. So it may be better not to greenify them if you rely on them. Of course they will consume more battery since they are running in the background.
2. If you want iPhone like behaviour, use shallow hibernation. Otherwise, the apps will start afresh.
3. It is better to add such apps to the white list.
i could be wrong.... but i noticed that most of the times aggressive doze does NOT exted the real battery life...... maybe it COULD extend it if you do not touch the phone for long periods like 2...4 hours at time, but if you make a normal usage of the phone i suspect that activating and deactivating doze is DRAINING more battery than it tries to save!!!
.........any other though?
realista87 said:
i could be wrong.... but i noticed that most of the times aggressive doze does NOT exted the real battery life...... maybe it COULD extend it if you do not touch the phone for long periods like 2...4 hours at time, but if you make a normal usage of the phone i suspect that activating and deactivating doze is DRAINING more battery than it tries to save!!!
.........any other though?
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Similar observation on battery savings. In most cases any power related benefits of aggressive doze are wiped out when the device wakes from its comma and performs a bunch of 'catch up' tasks. Such behavior can lead to lag immediately after wake which is a common complaint associated with aggressive doze. That said, aggressive doze may have other situational benefits...especially over longer durations. As always YMMV.
yes, i think about a person who does pick up the phone just every 4...5 hour at day because it is not important (for him) to always check the latest messages, and in that condition it could be useful the aggressive doze.
i even noticed that to disable the movement sensors is NOT a great thing...... of course great if someone is in car or moving everytime but it has the CON of turning on/off the brightness sensor of the phone and at every display power on the phone lags for 1/2 seconds.
i must admit that in the last years i've always used aggressivedoze/ or naptime and greenified lots of apps but i should reconsider the fact to UNinstall all....... and see if the battery life is really worse or not.
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yes, i think about a person who does pick up the phone just every 4...5 hour at day because it is not important (for him) to always check the latest messages, and in that condition it could be useful the aggressive doze.
i even noticed that to disable the movement sensors is NOT a great thing...... of course great if someone is in car or moving everytime but it has the CON of turning on/off the brightness sensor of the phone and at every display power on the phone lags for 1/2 seconds.
i must admit that in the last years i've always used aggressivedoze/ or naptime and greenified lots of apps but i should reconsider the fact to UNinstall all....... and see if the battery life is really worse or not.
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The sensor issue is device specific. I enable 'doze on the go' on all my devices and have yet to encounter the brightness glitch. However, I don't use the more aggressive sensor suppressions available in some apps. Note 'doze on the go' is enabled by default w/Android 7+.
After experimenting with countless apps/tools/techniques (ugh) my Android power management methodology has evolved to a 'lite touch' minimalist approach. I only take overt action when a specific drain can not be contained by other means. Greenify is the tool of choice with only a few bad actors in the explicit hibernation list. Android defaults handle everything else. My devices sleep soundly, behave predictably and score admirably low drain rates. App selection obviously plays into that. Big pigs like Facebook, Google everything and WhatsApp are not part of my portfolio as lighter alternatives exist. Good luck with your own adventures.
Does the app and the built in function of the o+3t do exactly the same thing or would installing the app improve battery life?
I'm curious as well on my OP5
Eggstones said:
Does the app and the built in function of the o+3t do exactly the same thing or would installing the app improve battery life?
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Im using Greenify with my (ROOTED) o+3t. I made some test sessions with BBS and Geenify (with AD) improve MY battery life. I also hibernating few apps that waking up device too often. You need try and check if it can improve yours battery life. But with my device it does.
EDIT: Oneplus removed that built in function few betas ago. But what i remember it didnt worked with notifications so good than greenify does.
Any tip not to loose notifications?
I'm using Greenify on a rooted OP3T (OOS OB 13) and I'm getting good battery life with more that 7h SOT.
Only in the same time I have lost most of my notifications. And all the settings (Battery Optimization, Advanced Optimization, Nougat doze mode and Greenify) and last OS changes (aggressive doze seems to no longer be there), I getting a bit lost into trial and fail.
Any advice on how to make the best use of Greenify on my device, without loosing notification would be welcome.
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I'm using Greenify on a rooted OP3T (OOS OB 13) and I'm getting good battery life with more that 7h SOT.
Only in the same time I have lost most of my notifications. And all the settings (Battery Optimization, Advanced Optimization, Nougat doze mode and Greenify) and last OS changes (aggressive doze seems to no longer be there), I getting a bit lost into trial and fail.
Any advice on how to make the best use of Greenify on my device, without loosing notification would be welcome.
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Assuming Android 6.x base:
- you will need to install Xposed Framework and the donation build of Greenify for best results
- enable "Doze on the go" which is perhaps the most important tweak on MM
- also enable wake-up timer coalescing and permission to Greenify system apps
- forget about aggressive/shallow doze and/or deep hibernation (reasons are outside scope of this post); likely the source of your notification issue
- temporarily disabled other power/battery optimization apps such as Amplify, Force Doze, Power Nap, etc.
- remove any apps previously excluded from battery optimization unless you are highly confident they do not perform well unless excluded
- clear all apps from Greenify's action list
That should correct any notification issues assuming Greenify and/or one of the above apps was the culprit. You can monitor and add 'bad actors' to Greenify's action list as needed. On most devices this list should be very short (assuming Android 6.x or better).
Hi all,
I was wondering if I go for Greenify + servicely, are they a good combination?
Understood that servicely app is under Franco, Franco kernel creator, I was thinking that will the app compatible with kernel other than Franco kernel?
Servicely doesnt depend on rom or kernel, it just tries to supresses the wakelocks from selected apps and services.
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Servicely doesnt depend on rom or kernel, it just tries to supresses the wakelocks from selected apps and services.
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OK, understood. Will try this combination and see how.
Don't use Greenify on Pie. It's basically useless because of how OS optimizes the battery usage. Also, the developer deprecated it.
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Don't use Greenify on Pie. It's basically useless because of how OS optimizes the battery usage. Also, the developer deprecated it.
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I see, so is there any good one to go?
thomas140 said:
I see, so is there any good one to go?
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Naptime works fine alone since you only need to optimize sleep behavior. The Pie itself can perfectly manage apps' battery usage already.
I'm using Servicely + Naptime during the night, and I get about 0,3% idle drain! So f.....ing amazing!
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Hi all,
I was wondering if I go for Greenify + servicely, are they a good combination?
Understood that servicely app is under Franco, Franco kernel creator, I was thinking that will the app compatible with kernel other than Franco kernel?
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I use both, together with franco kernel, and battery life is awesome. I could use Naptime too in place of Greenify. I don't know about it being deprecated, it still is alive in the Play Store.
I use Greenify more for its Doze On the Go feature, I don't know if Pie caters for that. Naptime has it too.
On my Huawei phone which is unrooted, I use Naptime since Greenify's Doze On the Go is inactive.
Naptime:
"Why?
Because why the hell not?
Doze is amazing but with it has its quirks. It can take at least 2 hours to kick in (if the device is stationary, not charging etc). If you move around, even with the screen off, doze won't kick in, so there are a lot of potential battery saving opportunities lost, gone with the wind."
For Greenify :
"Doze on the Go
Android system uses a low power "significant motion sensor" (if present in hardware) to track movement and exits Doze Mode if significant movement is detected, because the stock Doze Mode is designed for battery-saving in stationary state. Doze on the Go effectively removes this restriction and keeps your device in Doze Mode even during movement.
Android 7.0 introduced native support of Doze on the Go and a new light doze mode, which blocks network access but not wake-up timers of the app. When movement is detected, it exits deep doze and keeps in light doze, and then goes back into deep doze after device is stationary for some time. The Greenify version of "Doze on the Go" will always keep your device in deep doze on Android 7.0, regardless of movement."
Using greenify on pie will likely break **** tbh
I know that a lot of folk use apps like Greenify, Power Nap, Amplify, Force Doze, etc along with things like Pixel Filter, Smart Pixel feature in some roms etc, but are all these really necessary with current phones?
I have used all of the above together for years but curious about if I really need to now and if they are just impacting my battery more than they save? Do I really need them all now? I'm not using ForceDoze currently as Havoc OS has it's own doze settings and aggressive profile, but I'm wondering if Power Nap is even needed if I have Greenify and Amplify.
Just trying to reduce the apps I need without compromising my standby drain as I am running into odd issues like Magisk failing to grant root after a few minutes or so uptime unless I restart the phone and quickly open the app I need to grant root (once in the allowed list, they work flawlessly. It's just the initial prompt), messages like Whatsapp/Facebook not coming through even though they are exempt from battery optimisations and whitelisted in all the above apps and fingerprint/double tap to wake not working after 10 minutes unless I hit the power button first. I feel there are conflicts going on here which I have only had since having my OnePlus 6 this month. Not an issue with my S5 with this exact setup which was running for years and all my issues are non-existent if I leave the phone stock.
I am obviously going wrong somewhere and need to figure out where.
Also, if I run pixel filter or the smart pixel feature built into Havoc OS, am I better doing that or just turning it off and lowering the brightness? Smart pixel dims the screen slightly which I have to counter by raising the brightness. That's the one thing that has me confused as to which is actually using more juice.
Just in case I am doing something wrong, I have written down what I do in order after installing a new ROM in the attempt of maximising battery life. Doesn't seem tied to Havoc OS, but to my OnePlus 6 as I never had these issue with my previous S5.
Below is after the usual TWRP, Magisk, ROM and setting up settings etc
-Install Greenify (donation package), Amplify, Power Nap, EdXposed, Riru Core, Riru Yahfa, NFS, Better Battery Stats.
-After enabling all of them in EdXposed and restarting, I fire up Greenify and turn on all Xposed features and donation features but leave smart hibernation, ignore background free and aggressive doze off.
-Greenify all games, apps I use rarely and system apps like Camera, Print Spooler and Bookmark Provider
-Open Power Nap, select Endurance mode and whitelist Magisk, EdXposed, Greenify, Tasker, Messages, Phone, WhatsApp, BBS and LastPass (Power Nap seemed to disable it's autofill service)
-Start up Amplify so it does it's checks and exit
-Set up BBS
-Remove all these apps from OS battery optimisation
-Reboot to recovery and copy over the Amplify settings file to it's folder within data/data/Amplify folder/shared prefs and restart to system. (basic Google and app specific wakelocks you will find in all Amplify guides on XDA and nothing else)
-Add Play Store, Services, Framework, Google Pay and my banking app to Magisk Hide list and EdXposed blacklist to pass SafetyNet.
And this is where my problems start happening. This is what I have done for years and I never had issues. I suppose I could do these one at a time until I hit that wall where things go wrong, but thought I would ask here in case any of you can spot the mistake. Thanks in advance for the help or roasting lol
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If anyone has any other ideas to reduce battery drain, you can tell me. I'm trying to maximise both screen on and screen off time without compromising too much.