Is this the reason Xiaomi not providing screen guard? - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

First of all, I want to say this device is awesome, unbeatable at this price range. I don't care about screen bleeding, notch etc.
However It has one weakest link- QUALITY OF SCREEN.
I bought this device because it has one advantage over other flagships i.e. plastic back. These days companies are making all glass phones because they know consumers, sooner or later, will break their glass phones and pay hefty sum of money to fix them. Poco F1 has plastic back and I love it but it's screen is fragile AF. I don't know what screen they have used because gorilla glass is not so delicate. I have moto g as secondary device and it's GG3 screen is intact after several drops. Now, people over youtube, twitter and xda forums are telling their stories how their screen got shattered even when very small pressure was applied or dropped from very small height. I know cost cutting is done but to this extent? Very Fragile screen with weird touch responses.
There could be following reason for this.
Xiaomi has deliberately used very cheap screen. Device is just 300 dollars, people will root it and debloat it or use custom Roms. So how to make money when there are no miui ads shown? Simple, every customer will break their screen and pay 100 dollars or 6-7k rupees.
But personally I don't think any brand would do this to their first phone when their is so much hype. But it is what it is. Our screen is not safe even after applying unofficial tempered glasses available. This is a big mess.
Best Solution-
Screen protectors are available online and offline for this device but they do not fit well and people are still breaking their screen after applying them. So, Xiaomi should provide official edge to edge screen protectors. So I would request their head Mr. @jaimani to do something about it.
We don't need hard cases because plastic back is enough.
We don't need skins because plastic back is enough.
But We need official screen protectors.

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Is there a point for a screen protector?

Topic. Don't want to blow another 20 dollars if I dont need to. I heard gorilla glass is tough, so that's simply what i'm wondering. TIA
You don't need a $20 screen protector. Even the very cheapest clear screen protectors will work just fine. But you should definitely buy one unless you enjoy risking the screen being scratched.
Never had one on my EVO and I will never have one on my E3D. My EVO screen is in perfect condition. It really depends on how well you take care of your stuff. For me its a no.
I already have the Zagg on my EVO 3D screen and platinum case on it since yesterday. I have a 4 year old who loves to play with my phone. It's a must for me and it has saved me a couple of times. I replaced mine 2x from him messing with it. When i sold it yesterday, the screen was flawless.. It's just like big Zone said, it's how well you take care of it.
I never had one on my Evo. By the end, I had dropped it a couple of times, carried it in my pocket, etc, and it came out with only minor surface scratches that could only be seen in direct sunlight. So I won't be putting on on my 3D.
ive never had a screen protector on any of my recent phones.evo 4g, arrive, nexus s and now not evo 3d. But an employee at my store somehow managed to get a decent scratch dead in the middle of his. not sure how he thinks he had it in his pocket with a lighter. and he takes care of his stuff. so it is possible
i build scaffolding in a paper mill so a screen protector is a must for me as well as a defender case. i cant tell you how many times a screen protector has saved me from scratches.
You can get great deals on ebay...like 2 dollars for 6 of them.
Of course you need them. It never hurts to have it on there, have had them on all my phones. The one i have now has a couple scratches on it....i know the protectors are weaker than the screen glass but for two dollars why not slap one on there?
I posted an email from HTC in another post about Gorilla Glass.
It's not listed on Corning's site, and HTC says that it doesn't have Gorilla Glass.
Some people say that the email is wrong, but without anyone actually saying there is GG in the phone, I'm assuming that it doesn't have it.
Dear [name],
I appreciate your interest in some of new Android devices like the HTC Sensation 4G and the HTC EVO 3D. You were wondering about the availability of Gorilla glass in either of these new Android devices. Some of our devices come with screens made out of a proprietary formula of glass and some have Gorilla glass. Unfortunately, these devices are not in the list for Gorilla glass.
If you need any further assistance, you are welcome to send another inquiry through the HTC website by going through the Support page (http://www.htc.com/us/support) then tapping ‘send us an email’. You should input all the necessary information requested on the page.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11USCW25ENA002087.
Sincerely,
Danielle
HTC
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I know some people will argue it, but without anyone actually saying that it does (other than some review or another forum), I don't believe it.
So yes, a screen protector is a good idea. Even if you never need it, it's cheap and it's always nice to have just in-case something does happen.
Thunderbolt had gorilla glass and it scratched super easy. I would imagine just like anything, there are different qualities to gorilla glass. For instance HTC could have cut a deal for a lesser product for cheaper money.
I normally take care of my devices, never really had an issue, except 1 time I was careless and a tape gun thing went flying out of my hand(no idea how) and the blade smacked dead on the screen of my evo. It made a little bubble on my zagg shield, but I still think it would have put a nice big scratch on the screen itself. Just for the occasional f'up, i'm going to be getting a screen protector.
I have screen protectors. The first week I had my Evo 4G I was using the Sprint screen protector. The screen got several little scratches where the screen protector doesn't cover. I bought a full cover shortly after that.
I would carry my phone in my front pocket.
IMO, No 10char
snarebum said:
i build scaffolding in a paper mill so a screen protector is a must for me as well as a defender case. i cant tell you how many times a screen protector has saved me from scratches.
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You don't know that. Most anything strong enough to scratch a full glass screen can peel off a screen cover while doing so.
I rarely use Screen protectors - but.. since i'm always an earlier adopter for the latest and greatest phones (yes, i did own and iphone4 at one point) friends and family always take it away from me and mess around. I'll keep a cheap protector on it for a couple months then remove it - and go naked.
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Topic. Don't want to blow another 20 dollars if I dont need to. I heard gorilla glass is tough, so that's simply what i'm wondering. TIA
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$20? I really must start selling screen protectors to you if you are willing to pay that! They only cost about 20 cents in bulk, so some of these sellers have quite a markup! That said, I do think some of the places like Steinheil have a premium product.
Let me ask you this, have you ever seen an iPhone with a scratched screen? Those have gorilla glass too. It does scratch.
I have a clarvue screen protector on right now. Even though I take good care of my phone, a screen protector is cheap insurance. You can't even tell it is on.
RedWingsFan said:
I have a clarvue screen protector on right now. Even though I take good care of my phone, a screen protector is cheap insurance. You can't even tell it is on.
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This is what I have also, 2 for ~$11.00 from their site, iirc. I like it better than any of the others I've tried.
What is so special about Clarivue protectors compared to the cheap ones?
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no screen protector needed. You can literally take a razor to the screen and it will be fine. It takes a ton of force and something very very tough to scratch the screen. I do run a protector but not to protect but to give a matte finish which works wonders in sunlight and also makes your finger just glide across the screen. The Otter Box Defender has the perfect material screen built in for this.

Gorilla glass ?

Hey guys
Does HTC Titan have a gorilla glass ? Because I googl'd and found mixed results
It's confirmed from GG's site.
However,I was reading a review which said it has GG display
http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/11/09/htc-titan-review/
"Under the Gorilla Glass is a 4.7-inch Super LCD display. This is the largest screen on any Windows Phone device on the market. "
So can any of you guys who own this phone confirm whether it has GG or not ?
Don't think so.. If i'm wrong, then Gorilla Glass isn't very good! I have some scratches on my screen just after 1.5 month of use.. My old HD2 hasn't a single one and I've been using that for 2 years..
no gorilla glass
imho unwiredview is pretty unreliable on quite a few bits of news...
I'm sure its tempered glass
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/htc
Doensn't have Titan on the list, but the HD7. and my HD7 has 2 deep scratch somehow after 2 months of use... so???
Well,I wish this screen had some kinda protection :-S
Strike_Eagle ,you mentioned that it has GG(in your review on this site)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309175
"I would say it is good. Not the best but it is good-perfect.
It is Gorilla Glass. "
Honestly,I don't care much about GG,I just want it to be something that doesn't scratch
I emailed HTC about this, and they confirmed that it does not have gorilla glass.
I understand you would like to know if the HTC Titan uses Gorilla Glass, and I will be happy to discuss this with you. In our commitment to quality, HTC pioneered the use of shatter-proof glass in smartphones. At one time, Corning was the only manufacturer and we used their product, Gorilla Glass. Since then, many manufactures have developed and advanced shatter-proof glass technology, allowing HTC to use the highest quality cutting edge shatterproof glass in our smartphones while keeping costs low for our customers. Unfortunately, we would not be able to advise as to which specific manufacturer or product was used for the screen in your particular Titan. Rest assured, however, that it's screen is made of shatter-proof glass.
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hmm,so it's not gorilla glass but shatter proof instead ?
Are they kinda advertising or is it really shatter proof ?
Makes you go hmmm?
I'll still slap a screen protector on it to help anyway. I had the Zagg on my Focus, and it worked good for me. I ordered it today for half-off cyber Monday deal.
When i had my TP2, i installed a screen protector on it but when i got an iPhone 4,i didn't put anything on it and after a year of usage, it doesn't have any scratch whatsoever.(And it wasnt gorilla glass either) so if the Titan's screen is as scratchless as iPhone's then I wont even bother getting a screen protector.
Anyway,here's what slashgear reports(in their Titan's review)
"Titan is one of the company’s most cohesive, solid handsets of the past year. The matte-finish black metal casing and bevelled toughened Gorilla Glass fascia come together beautifully, and the various logos and branding are discrete and thankfully chrome-free."
MY comment at the other thread is based on several review article online, because there isn't a way for me to test it.
But if HD7 has Gorilla Glass, then the quality of GG is super low.
my HD7 catched up very few light scartch after only 2 days of using...
If you look at the Gorilla glass website, it lists the Surround as having it, but not others. I have the surround, and it does feel like gorilla glass. And i received a reply from htc regarding the scratch resistance of the new glass they are using instead of the gorilla glass.
The glass we currently use is comparable to Gorilla Glass in regards to scratch resistance and shatter resistance. Unfortunately, we do not have any specifics about the glass and all we know is that it is comparable to Gorilla Glass in its features. I do apologize that I cannot give you more information about this, but I do hope this was helpful.
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I would just like to state this: HTC said themselves that the HTC Titan DOES NOT use gorilla glass.
Ok now I've never had a gorilla glass as mostly AMOLED is what I used - hence no gorilla there.
This is my first capacitive non-AMOLED i.e. capacitive LCD (here S-LCD)... I am sure we are not losing anything with absence of the 'gorilla'. The screen feels much scratch resistant unless you knife it! I've dropped my phone 3 times on the road and pavement - no scratch on the screen. A little scratch near the back-bottom (invisible).
drupad2drupad said:
Ok now I've never had a gorilla glass as mostly AMOLED is what I used - hence no gorilla there.
This is my first capacitive non-AMOLED i.e. capacitive LCD (here S-LCD)... I am sure we are not losing anything with absence of the 'gorilla'. The screen feels much scratch resistant unless you knife it! I've dropped my phone 3 times on the road and pavement - no scratch on the screen. A little scratch near the back-bottom (invisible).
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Thanks,seems like a great screen then
Scratches?
Whether it's GG or not, sounds like at least 1 Titan owner already has some scratches. Which is too bad. I have the Zagg Invisible Shield on my Focus, and I just hate putting any screen cover over the beautiful glass. Plus I'm on my second Zagg already, and even the second one is peeling up around the edge. Just got my Titan, still in its box. I may go naked for a while.
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Makes you go hmmm?
I'll still slap a screen protector on it to help anyway. I had the Zagg on my Focus, and it worked good for me. I ordered it today for half-off cyber Monday deal.
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DId they (Zagg) ship your order? I too ordered their InvisibleSheild on cybermonday sale, but they never shipped it (even after a week). I ended up asking for a refund (via Paypal). Now I asked my local mall Zagg guy (no way related Zagg itself, but he sells their product) to get the sheilds. Good thing is he will process any replacements too. With Zagg.com you will need pay them full price, and get a replacement after you return old one. You will lose the shipping cost bothways.
"gorilla glass" is a product not a type of glass
I have a TITAN and the screen is pretty solid, so scratches after weeks and feels very hardened.
I'm pretty sure HTC is making the same thing on their own instead of purchasing from corning, but for legal reasons they cannot refer to it as "gorilla glass" because corning has a copyright on it. Question is who has the patent to the hardening process or not. Otherwise anybody is free to make glass this way, they just can't call it GG.
So for all intents and purposes I would say it has GG, but it's HTC's knock off version not the corning version. I could be wrong...
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I have a TITAN and the screen is pretty solid, so scratches after weeks and feels very hardened.
I'm pretty sure HTC is making the same thing on their own instead of purchasing from corning, but for legal reasons they cannot refer to it as "gorilla glass" because corning has a copyright on it. Question is who has the patent to the hardening process or not. Otherwise anybody is free to make glass this way, they just can't call it GG.
So for all intents and purposes I would say it has GG, but it's HTC's knock off version not the corning version. I could be wrong...
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They're in Taiwan. It's almost certainly some cheap Chinese, er Taiwanese knock-off of Gorilla Glass. Close but not quite as good. I'm still going to put a Zagg over my Titan to be safe. I actually got the easy install full body so maybe I won't be as inclined to drop it in the first place.
I'm biased towards zagg products so take this with a grain of salt.
I have had the titan since it came after the penny sale. I applied the zagg shield yesterday. When cleaning my screen, I noticed there was a micro-scratch! Invisible except for in a certain light and with the screen off, but scratched my my short time with it nonetheless.
I love zagg's invisible shield, and I think it will confer a few extra benefits for the titan:
1. The full body shield improves grip; less slippery, more secure in my hand. I know this was a concern for me, especially when trying to reach the back button using one hand.
2. I haven't had any issues personally with reception, but the full body shield prevents direct hand contact and thus should alleviate grip-of-death.
In general, the shield does an excellent job in protecting the phone. One of my issues with straight up glass is if my fingers contain any moisture whatsoever, unless my fingers are perfectly dry, I cannot smoothing swipe across the screen. Moisture increases the coefficient of friction on glass, and any greases or oils are clearly visible on glass. Oils/greases aren't as readily visible on the invisible shield as it is on just glass, and I find that I can just grease up my screen by rubbing it a little bit for a smoother experience.
Yes, the invisible shield does show signs of wear after perhaps 6months to a year of use, but with their lifetime warranty you can get a new set for a few dollars in shipping (Provided you mail back the original shield, via regular envelope even, no special packaging).
I would suggest using wrapsol screen and body shield. You don't get the orange peel effect that the zagg invisible shield gives you. I used the wrapsol screen protector on my surround since the day I got it over a year ago. It has not peeled up or scratched looks as good as the day I bought it.

The best Screen Protector for the S8

Hi everybody.
I have been testing a couple of screen protectors in the past and wanted to share my experince with you.
The best one in my opionen is from SAMSUNG itself. It simply has the best quality. If you buy it on amazon its only $11. (http://amzn.to/2xGpWWs) I think for 2 screen protectors thats a good value for the money.
I even made a video review about it to tell what I like about it. If you are interested in it you can watch it here:
https://youtu.be/S2ixW_dvx8s
What are your experiences with screen protectors? I am curious. Share your opinions here
Though mine isn't really a screen protector, I am using the lifeproof case for my S8. Have been very happy with it. The screen protector built into the case is already curved so it fits easily. People have complained about issues with the curved part of the touchscreen and responsiveness. I have not experienced this issue at all. I have always had good luck with the Zagg Glass Protector with other phones, not sure how that is with the S8. Something to potentially look at for people.
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Though mine isn't really a screen protector, I am using the lifeproof case for my S8. Have been very happy with it. The screen protector built into the case is already curved so it fits easily. People have complained about issues with the curved part of the touchscreen and responsiveness. I have not experienced this issue at all. I have always had good luck with the Zagg Glass Protector with other phones, not sure how that is with the S8. Something to potentially look at for people.
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I see. THe big problem with most of the screen protectors for me was that most of them could not hold to the edges and came off pretty early. So that's a big criteria for a good screen protector. THe one by samsung still covers my whole front after months which is one of the many reasons I like it so much.
Glass protectors are to thick and make the phone too thick in my opionion. But maybe I should give it another shot..
yes but glass protectors are designed to protect your screen in an accident, the normal film ones you have will not protect your screen from accidental damage, i presently have a htc phone with a glass screen protector on it and it has saved my phone many times as the glass screen protector cracked but the screen underneath was unmarked. I know have a samsung s8, i bought two glass screen protectors from amazon uk, the reviews were made by 72 viewers and almost 100%. i fitted the screen protector perfectly and it didnt stick to the curve edges and was very unresponsive to touch , i sent them back for full refund which i got. most importantly most of the reviews are fake reviews, amazon should stop this. ive left my feedback on amazon.
These flimsy plastic screen protectors make no sense to me. Your phone glass is already harder than anything you'll throw into your pocket. The metal on your keys and **** can't scratch your screen anyway and all these would do is protect from scratches by getting scratched themselves.
People want screen protectors to protect from cracking and shattering the phone not to protect from scratches. The screen is already mostly scratch proof unless you're rubbing it up against a pointy edge of some harder glass which I seriously don't think you'd be doing.
Anyone try Nano Fix it?
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best Screen Protector for the S8
I almost feel bad that I underestimated the installation part as I almost wanted to throw the first screen protector I used. If done correctly and patiently, you will have a premium looking phone. Don’t rush it if you don’t want to regret it. So for you guys who are afraid of the “wet installation”, give it a try. It was a bit difficult for me, but I’ll do it again if it means maintaining the high quality of my Samsung Galaxy S8. And besides, the S8.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B07DF82TJ3/ref=sspa_mw_detail_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought this one, though I will give it a try. It works perfect and holds very strong as well. I bought same brand for s7 edge and it is the same quality.
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IDK for you but I'm satisfied with this goo.gl/8brXA2 straight from Amazon and reasonable price also I think they have for s8 plus goo.gl/gMg9Wb
https://www.ebay.com/itm/153275884028?var=&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
i tested this one works perfectly
the guard actually sticks to the device via glue with UV just like whitestone one but is lot cheaper
I don't use any screen protector, I realized that touching and stroking the screen was very sensational.
I can totally agree with you. In the past, I've always used multiple screen protectors.
I have my S8+ device a bit over a year now and I can see only a micro-scratches, which are invisible in the daily usage.
Besides, what's the point of buying screen protectors for, let's say 50$ and replace them every year? I'd rather save this money and buy sooner the new, fresh model.
Hi. I would like to know what you all end up using on your screen. I just bought me an S8+ and are desperately looking for a good screen protector that i can use with a case.
Please enlighten me

Gorilla glass?

Not sure how my wife managed to do this (probably happened in the purse), but yesterday the display was clean. Today - this.. Not even 2 weeks old phone.
Ohhh man that's not good. I think it is gorilla glass 3 on this device.
I don't know what say....
Have you tried looking up prices to change the screen?
After 2 weeks it should obviously not be like that
The professional replacement will cost at least half the price of a new phone. I will wait for more serious damage and buy a new phone once prices come down. Repair just doesn't make financial sense I'm afraid. I'm just puzzled how could have this happened, in literally less than a day. It should be Gorilla Glass 5 and per this video, even hammer can't damage it
U probably has dropped ur phone or something on the road, the screen must have taken a drop and drag on a rough surface. Cause even it this is gorilla glass 3, that is pretty tough too, it cannot get scratched in a purse, ya some minor scratches can be there but these are really deep scratches.
Nope, no dropping at all. We don't know how it happened, I just noticed it today (yesterday the glass was clean). If it dropped and dragged on a flat hard surface, whole display would be scratched. Protection case would take some damage too, but it's like new. The damage of the display is along one side only with a few scratches reaching further. Really strange.
Need a billfold case. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000029291661.html
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Nope, no dropping at all. We don't know how it happened, I just noticed it today (yesterday the glass was clean). If it dropped and dragged on a flat hard surface, whole display would be scratched. Protection case would take some damage too, but it's like new. The damage of the display is along one side only with a few scratches reaching further. Really strange.
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Oh man that looks painful.
Glass is glass. It has it's limitations.
You really should have used a tempered glass, that would protect the display man.
A3 rocks a gorila glass 5 btw, as mentioned by many reviewers. Gsmarena also says that.
After some "investigation" we suspect our 1.5 years old son to be the "destructor" (though we still don't know how exactly he managed to do it). I haven't used tempered glass protectors for years as I didn't have pretty much a single scratch on any of the phones and they add unnecessary bulkiness . Lesson learned, it's a good idea to have it around small kids
I was so confident about the gorilla glass. That's why i didn't use any tempered glass. But, after 2 days, i noticed a scratch as light reflected on the screen. Then i quickly bought a glass. I'm sure the scratch was from my pocket.
Many glass protections is made in China.
I checked the price of a display replacement in a 3rd party proffesional service center using genuine parts (they can't replace just the top glass layer), it is 155eur. Price of the new phone is currently about 170-180eur in my country.
@ _mysiak_ you can buy for few dollar touch glass panel, you just need to change that....
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@ _mysiak_ you can buy for few dollar touch glass panel, you just need to change that....
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't know anyone who would take the risk and replace only the top glass panel. I saw few instructional videos and it requires quite good tools and skills, most service centers in my country simply won't do it. Even if they did, the price paid for work will be probably close to the cost of a new complete display :\
Ah! See wahala! From the picture its evident that the phone fell and scrubbed a hard surface. No purse could scratch even a gorrilla glass 1 and dent the frame like that. Or else your wifes purse is a construction site on its own.
Just like car particulars & drivers license, after i buy a new phone i must put on a case & screen guard for rest of mind.
Anything that has level 6 of hardness on Mohs scale can scratch the phone. To put it simple, anything that is as hard as sands (or harder) can scratch you phone screen.
Hi, I also got a pretty deep scratch. I don't know how it happend. I'm really careful (kept my nexus 5 from 2013 to 2019 without any (or really light) scratches. This is really weird the phone didn't fall. :/

Tempered glass screen protectors for the t-mobile LG V60 thinQ device

Does anyone know if zagg makes a tempered glass screen protector or if zagg makes any screen protectors for the LG V60? I cannot find a zagg screen protector for the LG V60 anywhere.If they do could someone please drop a link to them.If zagg don't make a screen protector for the LG V60 does anyone know of any screen protectors that are a good quality like the zagg screen protectors.I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks In advance!!!
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If you plan on using the dual screen accessory you might not have enough clearance between the screens when closing the device. Doing so may cause damage to one or both of the screens.
If you plan on using the device without the dual screen accessory and you want to protect the screen, you should avoid using Zagg products at all cost. Their curved line of protection has a viewable area smaller than than the viewable area of your actual screen.
That and the curved area of the protector never fully adheres to the screen. Both of these issues indicate the protectors are built out of proper spec to offer the advertised protection to begin with, likely causing display damage anyway, during an incidental fall.
Furthermore, tech support recommends fixing this issue by heating the screen with a hot air tool, which further compromises the protection offered. Tempered glass is made from a ploymer blend combined with actual glass. It's created with heat and formed to a curve, and when cooled offers substantial drop protection to the device it's adhered to... so long as the application is sound and free of gaps between the glass.
If your protection doesn't adhere properly to a curved display, despite being aligned properly, it will cause your LCD to break the first time it lands on that spot.
And when you have a broken screen with a Zagg product on it? They charge you more money for a replacement protector and you pay full price for your broken screen replacement... virtually a front loaded profit machine that gets your money twice while leaving you to deal with a broken device on your own.
Without advertising, there are products out there that when purchased and registered properly, can provide repair reimbursement if your device becomes damaged with their protection on it. Cell Helmet and Gadget Guard are two companies I've dealt with in the past.
If you were to purchase an insured case with an insured screen protector, in the event you end up with a broken display, you could get up to a combined $550 reimbursement for repairing your device. Cell Helmet offers up to $300 on their altitude X line of cases. Gadget Guard offers up to $250 on their black ice + and cornice line of screen protectors.
When you've purchased the products from authorized retailers and followed the registration instructions, you'll have the best combination of protection you can buy for often times the price of a single Zagg protector.
This is coming from a 20 years experienced electronics repair tech. The only time I would ever use a Zagg protector is when a) I can buy it for $10 and b) when it's a flat screen iPhone where you can replace the LCD for $20 anyway.
Good luck, stop giving bad companies your money.

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