Hey guys,
I own a Razer Phone 1 and thought upgrading to ROG was a no brainer, faster chipset and oled panel (though 90hz).
My ROG phone is so choppy and laggy compared to my RP1, to the stage I thought my phone was faulty. The games I tried testing were guns of boom, nba 2k, where reaction times and ability to control matters to some degree. I troubleshooted a bit and made sure X mode was on, cleared all the ram, 90hz setting was selected, and I turned on the gaming information and was averaing 50fps which is great for a phone! So why was it so choppy and laggy? I ran the same games on RP1 and reduced the screen to 90hz and ran the same games. The RP1 was perfect, all the choppy frames and lag were gone. So if both ROG and RP1 were running 90hz, and ROG should be having higher frame rates (845 vs 835), then is it because of ROG's oled panel?
Is there anyone else having this problem?
I'll try to upload a video to show the problem? It's a bit discouraging that the latest gaming phone performs worse in the real-world (not benchmark) than an older generation product.
Reuben3 said:
Hey guys,
I own a Razer Phone 1 and thought upgrading to ROG was a no brainer, faster chipset and oled panel (though 90hz).
My ROG phone is so choppy and laggy compared to my RP1, to the stage I thought my phone was faulty. The games I tried testing were guns of boom, nba 2k, where reaction times and ability to control matters to some degree. I troubleshooted a bit and made sure X mode was on, cleared all the ram, 90hz setting was selected, and I turned on the gaming information and was averaing 50fps which is great for a phone! So why was it so choppy and laggy? I ran the same games on RP1 and reduced the screen to 90hz and ran the same games. The RP1 was perfect, all the choppy frames and lag were gone. So if both ROG and RP1 were running 90hz, and ROG should be having higher frame rates (845 vs 835), then is it because of ROG's oled panel?
Is there anyone else having this problem?
I'll try to upload a video to show the problem? It's a bit discouraging that the latest gaming phone performs worse in the real-world (not benchmark) than an older generation product.
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I love the phone but i do think it's over hyped. Coming from HTC U11+ (835 vs 845 snapdragon) i don't think the differences are big in terms of processor power. My guess the software experience of the phone isn't polished yet to it's potential that's why i believe the next few updates will make the experience more smooth and how it should be.
One disclaimer i think the CN Rom is worse in performance in comparison with a WW Rom (But no real actual proof just a hypothesis) because you will get some games or apps stopping because of missing Google play services or some google apps.
It's a huge difference in person but still noticeable after recording it and uploading it to youtube.
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(add youtube to the front as I'm new and unable to post links. please also view in 60fps setting)
Reuben3 said:
It's a huge difference in person but still noticeable after recording it and uploading it to youtube.
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(add youtube to the front as I'm new and unable to post links. please also view in 60fps setting)
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The link doesn't work.
I also upgraded from Razer Phone to RoG Phone, and I'm loving it. All the games I play are smooth, with colors so much brighter, and vibrant. So happy to have THE Headphone jack back.
ZiCott said:
I also upgraded from Razer Phone to RoG Phone, and I'm loving it. All the games I play are smooth, with colors so much brighter, and vibrant. So happy to have THE Headphone jack back.
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Thanks Zicott, in that case my phone is very likely defective. I'll see if I can get it repaired .
Tried out guns of boom and it played well on mine
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I just straight up went to youtube and launched a Starcraft 2 replay from Husky - played full screen in what (I could swear) 720p - I could see every tiny detail - very, very high res stuff.
Everything's so freaking snappy, just tap - BOOM - it plays.
So, first impressions:
FAST!
Light weight - even my wife said it's very light (and she thinks iPad is way too heavy)
Feels very solid - rubbery back is very pleasant and feels luxurious
Screen is very bright at max setting
Auto-rotate is very fast, I think even more reactive than on my SGS2, even when playing full-screen 720p youtube vid
Screen needs a protector on it - I don't think it's gorilla glass, and by itself it's somewhat hard to move finger on it (it kinda sticks a little). Protector will fix that
Speakers - good quality and loud enough for me
B&N's UI is actually very pleasant - it's very clean, appealing to the eyes.
Can't get to any Android stuff through settings - it's all locked down =)
WiFi works great, good reception
Browser is very fast, I bet you anything it'll be much snappier than Fire's Silk browser
Looks like you can't easily sideload APKs. You can browse to them, but NK doesn't recognize the file.
Very happy I got NT instead of that wimpy little Kindle Fire.. (still adore my eInk kindle though).
Awesome news!!! Keep the info coming
I picked up my 2 hours ago also, here is few first impression i have.
Pro:
- 720p Youtube and Amazon HD video play smoothly, but 1080p on youtube is about 5-10fps
- Screen have warmer color then the Nook Color I have, in comparison NC screen have a slight bluish tint to it.
- Nook Tablet software version 1.4
- Screen is 1 piece glass instead of 2 piece like NC, i agree with DarkDvr, the screen will need a screen protector. 1 piece glass front is slightly better looking then the 2 piece setup on the NC.
- Speaker is louder then the stock NC, but not as loud as NC with the Nook Tweak settings. However good enough for majority of flash videos I tried.
Con:
- I believe the NT is running Froyo 2.2, not a big deal though.
- Flash player version is 10.3, which by itself it not a problem. HOWEVER I notice severe flickering in most of the video i played on youtube and amazon videos. I want to see if anyone else notice this problem with their NT, it might be that i got a defective NT, but when i play the intro NT video, I don't see any flickering. It might be flash player related.
So far I am a little bit underwhelm with the NT, I was hoping for smooth 1080p playback (like my SGS2 with a similar dual core Cortext-A9 processor). Also with the flash video flicker issue, i really having doubts of if i want to keep the NT or not, especially since i already have my NC.
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- 720p Youtube and Amazon HD video play smoothly, but 1080p on youtube is about 5-10fps
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Yeah, cause you're playing 1080p in a browser, and that is a feat only SGS2 can pull off. Try playing an actual 1080p video file in a video player. NK specs (including the back of the NK packaging) shows that it can handle 1080p video. Just not in a browser.
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- I believe the NT is running Froyo 2.2, not a big deal though.
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No-no, it's 2.3 GB. Been confirmed many times.
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HOWEVER I notice very server flickering in most of the video i played on youtube and amazon videos.[/B]
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I never watched amazon videos, but I tried several different videos on youtube in 720p, and there was no flickering at all. I didn't see any issues, it was full fps, fast and screen orientation changed very fast.
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So far I am a little bit underwhelm with the NT, I was hoping for smooth 1080p playback (like my SGS2 with a similar dual core Cortext-A9 processor).
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SGS2 has Exynos monster CPU in it, at least most of them do. NK won't be able to match this SOC's CPU/GPU prowess. But official claims are that it's able to play 1080p video. As I've said above, just not in a browser.
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Also with the flash video flicker issue, i really having doubts of if i want to keep the NT or not, especially since i already have my NC.
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Call tech support, it seems it's your unit..
DarkDvr can you do me a favor? Can you watch this clip from 60 minute Walter Isaacson interview in full screen. and pay especially attention to when it was showing Isaacson speaking, to a static background. On my NT i can clearly see banding and flickering, most video i tried does this, but i think this video is the easiest to make out the flickering and banding issues.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/23/the-full-walter-isaacsonsteve-jobs-interview-from-60-minutes/
Also if you don't mind Korean girl bands here is another video that show very noticeable flickering right in the intro, especially in 720p resolution
http://youtu.be/5n4V3lGEyG4
If you don't see it then it really might be my unit, and time to trade it in for a different NT unit.
SGS2 has Exynos monster CPU in it, at least most of them do. NK won't be able to match this SOC's CPU/GPU prowess. But official claims are that it's able to play 1080p video. As I've said above, just not in a browser.
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Ya I guess I am spoiled by my SGS2's Exynos processor, but man i had high hopes for the OMAP4's flash video streaming capability.
Also as far as 2.2 vs 2.3, it is nice to have 2.3, hopefully that mean we can upgrade to flash player 11.1 really soon.
I'll check it out at home (no wifi at work and terrible reception).
I'll edit this post with my results.
Edit: Ok, i checked out both videos - watching first one was more painfull the the korean girls. On the first one I had tiny, barely noticable flicker, but I bet anything its cause of the format that video is in, probably NK's hardware is forced to do lots of work during playback.
No flicker at all on korean music video - plays better than on commercials!
Guys, don't worry
When we will have root, everything will be smooooooooooooth
Swishhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
1) Is it fast/smooth on ICS?
2) How is it as a Tablet? Desktop Sites? Flash? HTML5?
3) Battery under ICS?
4) Sound Quality? Loud? Muffled?
5) Gaming Performance? Emulators? Angry Birds Space? Temple Run?
6) Display Quality? Pixelated? Dark?
7) Build Quality? Cheap? Sturdy?
I dont have a 5.0, but i can answer that some people have reported it being a bit choppy on ics because theres not hardware acceleration yet. Jackpotclavin is working on porting the 3.0 kernel to it, which will enable hardware acceleration.
Out of the box the SGP 5 does not have ICS. You have to put the ICS ROM that is in development on it. This appears to be a work in progress.
I use it primarily as a small tablet and it is exceptional. It is just small enough to slip into a shirt pocket and you have you tablet with you. Flash is good. Websites are readable and interactive.
Sound quality is good but not very loud. There are two speakers with the main speaker on the back. If you put it in a folio case the sound is a bit muffled. A regular case or no case and the sound is fine. With the headphones the sound is loud and clear.
Gaming performance is good.
Build quality is very good. It is very sturdy and the display screen is resistant to scratches. There has been debate if the screen is Gorilla Glass - it likely is not but it is proving to be as durable.
Go into any Best Buy and play with one and you will see a lot of this for yourself - other than ICS related questions.
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1) Is it fast/smooth on ICS?
2) How is it as a Tablet? Desktop Sites? Flash? HTML5?
3) Battery under ICS?
4) Sound Quality? Loud? Muffled?
5) Gaming Performance? Emulators? Angry Birds Space? Temple Run?
6) Display Quality? Pixelated? Dark?
7) Build Quality? Cheap? Sturdy?
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1.) Don't waste your time with ICS... Gingerbread is just fine for the time being. Putting yourself on an unstable OS is probably one of the worst things you can consider when buying a product. Unless your looking to be a tester of it, stick with Gingerbread until the bugs are knocked out.
2.) It's fantastic as a tablet. It also works as a VoIP phone if you have the right means/apps. I haven't had any trouble viewing websites on it; Flash is VERY smooth; HTML5 runs fine as far as I know.
3.) Battery life under Gingerbread is great, I can't give exact numbers, but it lasts all day for me with a lot of use. And even when it's low on battery, it stays low for a LONG time. I sat at 5%-10% for another 1hr 1/2 before.
4.) The sound quality with headphones is fine. Music sounds great. The speaker is actually REALLY good compared to an iPod Touch or equivalent device. As far as small device speakers go, they don't disappoint that much.
5.) Gaming performance is optimal in most areas. Emulators run great! Almost all games for N64oid run at full frames, Mario 64 is flawless and works great if you connect a PS3 Sixaxis controller via Bluetooth (on-screen controls are another option). All other emulators seem to work flawlessly (Note: I haven't tested a TON of games, but I've tested the most popular). Temple Run is laggy if you have too much running in the background, but works great if you free up some RAM. Angry Birds (anything) runs full speed. It can also display some pretty nice graphics if you use the Chainfire3d app with Tegra settings + MSAA 4x.
6.) For an 800 x 480 display resolution, it looks amazing. SUPER AMOLED/Blah blah blah is nice, but to be entirely honest, this screen looks great the way it is considering it's not an $800 unsubsidized smartphone (price is an estimate for smartphones off contract with that screen type). The 5.0inch screen realastate is also a nice plus, It's great for viewing Netflix, browsing the web, playing games, or just watching videos in general. Pinch and zoom is very fast, so browsing is easy regardless of the resolution not being extremely high.
7.) As far as build quality goes... it's a lot of plastic and a fake silver rim-- but it's solid and looks nice all-in-all. I can't count how many times I've dropped this and it's survived with only one small dent in the bottom right corner of the silver rim (out of like 20+ drops from waste height onto soft-ish floor/tile) I'd give survivability an 8/10 in most cases.
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If you have any more questions feel free to ask! I've been an avid owner of this device since release and know almost every possible way to maximize the usability of it to match that of devices that are a little more powerful. The Galaxy player @ 1.5GHz is a beast to fear for the price range.
Well I've ordered one now, can't wait to see how great it is.
I have a 4.0 and a 5.0. I use the 4 for audio stuff like podcast and audio books and I use the 5 for all my video and ebook needs. I love them both and anything to avoid an "i" anything is fine in my book.
1) Smart Dock works with Note 3
2) Performance is cut up to half naturally because two 1080p screens are being displayed.
Example:
Anomaly 2 benchmark for the high benchmark I would score over 600k normally, with HDMI I would only score above 300k.
Just in case anyone was wondering.
hairdewx said:
1) Smart Dock works with Note 3
2) Performance is cut up to half naturally because two 1080p screens are being displayed.
Example:
Anomaly 2 benchmark for the high benchmark I would score over 600k normally, with HDMI I would only score above 300k.
Just in case anyone was wondering.
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Interesting finding, thanks for that! The question now would be: Do you really FEEL the difference in everyday context? Like browsing the web, writing stuff, switching windows, watching videos (playing games )? Or is only a benchmark ("look what a monster my device is") thing?
brooon said:
Interesting finding, thanks for that! The question now would be: Do you really FEEL the difference in everyday context? Like browsing the web, writing stuff, switching windows, watching videos (playing games )? Or is only a benchmark ("look what a monster my device is") thing?
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If you compare it directly to the non-hdmi experience then yes you will "feel" it. It still is a smooth experience - just not "buttery" smooth. The performance is still acceptable for most things outside of the most demanding apps and games.
Interesting to note that while most things will be mirrored, playing videos using the default video app plays it only through hdmi. A 4K video I took was not mirrored and thus played perfectly over hdmi. Youtube and netflix were mirrored on both screens, and never got to high resolution like it does on my roku/xbox./ps3.
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Youtube and netflix were mirrored on both screens, and never got to high resolution like it does on my roku/xbox./ps3.
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Hmm,...that´s quite sad of course - would be damn nice if the note 3 would be able to replace these devices completely.
Would you say that the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
No issue whatsoever with performance. Not one sign of lag or stutter yet.
fastest smartphone i've used....
Yeah super fast coming from note 4 which I was happy with. Super duper fast
Works great for my daily things, and even the few games I play.
Size and spec of the s7 edge makes it my daily device and it works perfectly so far.
Coming from ip6s+, but also had before that N6p,N5 and s6 edge. So I compare it to good devices and not some low end device..
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its fast, dunno how good it is compared with other newer phones, but everything runs smooth, games are awesome!
Setting everything was super fast, did a reboot and charging up to take a break, coming from a Note 4, which was reasonably fast, but this thing has zero lag so far.
GS7
this is a great phone, you can get the performance that you want and easily to use :good:
Snappiness of this phone has put my Note 4 to shame, particularly with switching to and from camera to gallery.
The sd card max transfer speeds are not up to par for 2016. Everything else is great.
Galaxy S7 edge is really fast, I do all multi tasking stuff like running multiple apps, playing game, downloading and auto updates parallely and its still runs with full speed. like all other samsung mobiles S7 edge runs with high speed.
No lag for me yet.
I can easily get mine to freeze up or lag.
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I can easily get mine to freeze up or lag.
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Same here. There is microlag when scrolling all throughout Touchwiz. For the most part its smooth and seamless but for everyone saying they haven't seen lag, you probably have.
There is just a strong chance that it wasn't sustained lag which makes it easy to be dismissive of it.
It is especially noticeable when coming from the N6P (chalking this up to stock android not being bloated)
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Same here. There is microlag when scrolling all throughout Touchwiz. For the most part its smooth and seamless but for everyone saying they haven't seen lag, you probably have.
There is just a strong chance that it wasn't sustained lag which makes it easy to be dismissive of it.
It is especially noticeable when coming from the N6P (chalking this up to stock android not being bloated)
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Agreed, I have seen micro lag, but nothing to irritating. It got much better when I disabled everything (everything that is dis-ableable anyhow) from Samsung and Verizon as always. Also as always once its rooted we can disable the rest and ti will fly. Its a shame that we have to do that, but it is what it is. I would do anything for an S7 Edge with stock Android... Better yet, a Nexus Edge
Hi, and what about the most performance demanding games? I use these expensive phones as portable consoles and if I invest 800€ into phone, which is price of computer, I expect every single game on google play smooth at 50 fps. But on some ytb videos I have seen some microshutter and fps drops for example in Dead trigger 2, Asphalt 8 or GTA san andreas. Dont know which version it was, but I prefer adreno 530 gpu which is not on market in my country :/ . I actually dont care very much about fast app launching/loadings or appdrawer, but for me most important is FPS when game is already loaded. Or can I lower res to 1080p to eliminate any FPS issue? Did anyone compared gaming exynos vs snapdragon? (not benchmarks, real gaming FPS) .
PS: Please keep hate and comments like phone is not for gaming away, Im listening it all the time. But i am heavy gamer at any platform and if I wanted phone for calls and sms I could stick with my old nokia 3310. But thanks for any possible useful info from owners of this phone
Only time I had lag was with Chrome. I'm using the Samsung browser now and it's fast. The update seems like it made my phone fast not that it was slow. I'm happy. Oh I'm using Nova so that probably helps.
most of it is fast except slight lag once in awhile. fps is slower compare to my oneplus 2
some games are laggier than on my Sony Z3, sometimes the transitions lag as well
Great speed
Is it possible to port this amazing game tuner app to our device?
How useful it is? according to my research...
Game Tuner is a truly useful piece of software? From Samsung? Color me surprised, too, but the company's new Game Tuner app is nothing short of incredibly handy for mobile gamers. As you may well know, playing visually-intensive games on your smartphone can demolish the battery fairly quickly. While most such games render at 1080p even on 2K displays like Samsung's, such resolutions can be big draws on both your remaining juice and your device's processor, causing throttling (and thus slowdowns) and excessive power drain. Samsung's new app lets you have a say in just how graphically hungry those games will be, allowing you to adjust maximum frame rate and resolution scaling.
For example, Hearthstone for Android on a Galaxy S6 edge+ renders at, near as I can tell, 1080p natively. With Samsung's Game Tuner app, you can turn that up to a full 1440p (aka 2K and probably not a great idea!), or all the way down to around 480p. The difference is very real. The frame rate can be adjusted from 15 to 60FPS.
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Is it possible to port this amazing game tuner app to our device?
How useful it is? according to my research...
Game Tuner is a truly useful piece of software? From Samsung? Color me surprised, too, but the company's new Game Tuner app is nothing short of incredibly handy for mobile gamers. As you may well know, playing visually-intensive games on your smartphone can demolish the battery fairly quickly. While most such games render at 1080p even on 2K displays like Samsung's, such resolutions can be big draws on both your remaining juice and your device's processor, causing throttling (and thus slowdowns) and excessive power drain. Samsung's new app lets you have a say in just how graphically hungry those games will be, allowing you to adjust maximum frame rate and resolution scaling.
For example, Hearthstone for Android on a Galaxy S6 edge+ renders at, near as I can tell, 1080p natively. With Samsung's Game Tuner app, you can turn that up to a full 1440p (aka 2K and probably not a great idea!), or all the way down to around 480p. The difference is very real. The frame rate can be adjusted from 15 to 60FPS.
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i dont think we need this.our display is already on hd.the lowest best possible so no need for it.redmi 3 battery life is superb so i relly think we dont need this app.
jokerpappu said:
i dont think we need this.our display is already on hd.the lowest best possible so no need for it.redmi 3 battery life is superb so i relly think we dont need this app.
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Actually our device is running on 1080p which is FHD ... by this app we can adjust the quality of the game and adjust the framerate for more smoother experience ...
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Actually our device is running on 1080p which is FHD ... by this app we can adjust the quality of the game and adjust the framerate for more smoother experience ...
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we have an hd screen and you are saying FHD ???how is that.games run on 720p not 1080p on our devices.so dont say things like that
FHD = 1080p
HD = 720p
The redmi 3/pro is a 720p screen resolution. I think the framerate adjustment might be helpful depending on games that arent necessary to have high end graphics but still dont run as well as they could
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FHD = 1080p
HD = 720p
The redmi 3/pro is a 720p screen resolution. I think the framerate adjustment might be helpful depending on games that arent necessary to have high end graphics but still dont run as well as they could
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IM sorry wrong thread i have redmi note 3 pro im so sorry!
jokerpappu said:
we have an hd screen and you are saying FHD ???how is that.games run on 720p not 1080p on our devices.so dont say things like that
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IM sorry wrong thread .