Hi guys, I currently have a v30 and would like to upgrade. I can jump to any phone really, but I'm hoping for your opinions. My thoughts are a V40, G7, or Oneplus 6T.
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ledvedder said:
Hi guys, I currently have a v30 and would like to upgrade. I can jump to any phone really, but I'm hoping for your opinions. My thoughts are a V40, G7, or Oneplus 6T.
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Any OnePlus phone is a quite significant downgrade from what you have now.
* No headset jack
* no quad DAC (since no headset jack)
* no 1440p QHD - - only 1080p. I've had 1440p OLED since 2014. Why would I ever go back to something less?
* no IP68. (Actually, NO IP rating whatsoever. In 2018 this is ridiculous for an alleged top tier phone.)
* no Qi wireless charging (which I've had since 2012, and even Apple finally has on their phones).
* no microSD card slot
LG V30, G7, V40 has ALL those features, OnePlus 6T does NOT.
OnePlus is not a premium phone. They are not a top-tier phone, they are are a pretender.
LG V30, LG G7 or LG V40 are both better than stupid OnePlus, if you want to change phones for some reason. However I HATE the notch.
In my opinion V30 is still about the best phone out there -- especially if you throw in universal bootloader unlock and root. Has all those features above, and no notch.
Personally, I'm sticking with this phone for at least another year for when the notch craze dissipates.
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Oneplus is a downgrade from what you have now.
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Can you explain why? It would also be $10 a month less and no money down.
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Can you explain why? It would also be $10 a month less and no money down.
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I explained why.
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It would also be $10 a month less and no money down.
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And I can buy a new Kia for less than a new Honda/Toyota. (My Honda Accord has 300,000 miles on it.) A stale bun convenience store hot dog will cost less than a restaurant prime rib dinner. So what? What will I proud of, what will I remember?
You currently have a premium phone, arguably the BEST phone from 2017 (with Samsung Note 8 as close second).
If you didn't have a phone, desperately needed ANY phone, yeah go buy the OnePlus. And then get a better phone when you can. But with something like the V30 in hand, I would never trade it for a OnePlus.
So, I guess unless I go to the G7 or V40, I'd be downgrading?
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So, I guess unless I go to the G7 or V40, I'd be downgrading?
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Yes:
ChazzMatt said:
LG G7 or LG V40 are both better than stupid OnePlus, if you want to change phones for some reason. However I HATE the notch.
In my opinion V30 is still about the best phone out there, especially if you throw in universal bootloader unlock and root. Has all those features, and no notch.
Personally, I'm sticking with this phone for at least another year for when the notch craze dissipates.
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Hi guys, I currently have a v30 and would like to upgrade. I can jump to any phone really, but I'm hoping for your opinions. My thoughts are a V40, G7, or Oneplus 6T.
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1+ is a welfare phone with a high price tag.
Not sure why people even get this device. 1+ acts like it has flagship specs while not even ACTUALLY offering flagship specs.what? Top of the line chip and more RAM that amounts to diminishing returns. All you actually need is 3gb worth of RAM. It's not a damn PC. 1+ cuts all the wrong corners. Look at the res of their screens.
If you want all the pros and cons of 1+ I'll give it to you. Just know there is 10X more cons then pros.
I would grab a V40 or a Samsung. Both come with SD card slots. Samsung doesn't have a quad dac though.
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1+ is a welfare phone with a high price tag.
Not sure why people even get this device. 1+ acts like it has flagship specs while not even ACTUALLY offering flagship specs.what? Top of the line chip and more RAM that amounts to diminishing returns. All you actually need is 3gb worth of RAM. It's not a damn PC. 1+ cuts all the wrong corners. Look at the res of their screens.
If you want all the pros and cons of 1+ I'll give it to you. Just know there is 10X more cons then pros.
I would grab a V40 or a Samsung. Both come with SD card slots. Samsung doesn't have a quad dac though.
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Exactly. The OnePlus advertising motto is "Never Settle" -- yet that's EXACTLY what you are doing when you buy a OnePlus phone. You are settling for a phone with no premium features. Literally all it has is current Snapdragon and RAM. Plenty of phone have that PLUS MORE.
I want Qi wireless charging.
For me, that's the line in the sand.
I want 1440p.
I've had that since 2014, I"m not going back to lesser resolution. All top-tier Android phones have had that since late 2014. Motorola, Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, etc. And all Google Nexus/Pixel phones, starting with the 2014 Nexus 6. For OnePlus STILL NOT to have it in 2018 shows how amateurish they really are.
I want high IP rating.
My last phone (2014) was "water resistant", but all top-tier phones since 2017 have a high IP rating -- IP67 or IP68. Apple, Google, Motorola, Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, etc. For OnePlus NOT to have it shows how amateurish they really are.
I want headset jack.
I just do. Sure I can ALSO use wireless earbuds if I want -- all Android phones have Bluetooth -- but do NOT take that option away from me just because you want to save some money making my phone. Quad DAC is bonus.
I want microSD card.
I've had some phones without it (2011 Nexus, 2014 Moto Quark), but I prefer it.
OnePlus' advertising motto is just bunk designed to counter what you are thinking if you really compared features and specs to real premium phones. OnePlus is never going to offer anything better than Oppo, their parent company offers. Until Oppo has a 1440p phone or Qi wireless charging, OnePlus will not. So, they lie "never settle" -- when they have obviously settled themselves.
I'm thinking about going to an iphone Xr and keeping my v30 to play with.
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I'm thinking about going to an iphone Xr and keeping my v30 to play with.
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Because you are tired of the headset jack, quad DAC, 1440p QHD, microSD slot on your V30?
iPhone XR has 828p --just over half of 1440p. It's actually categorized at "720p", because until you reach "full HD" 1080p, it's only crossed the 720p HD threshold and is still in that territory. LOTS of "720p" monitors/devices are really over 720p, but are still called "720p" until they reach at least 1080p.
Here you go: LG V30 vs iPhone XR vs LG V35 - SPECS. The only thing wrong they have is the storage. V30+ has 128GB + microSD card, but I they don't have V30+ in the database.
The only thing Apple has over OnePlus is the IP rating and now Qi wireless charging. In the Android specs world, an Apple phone is almost mid-tier.
Nope, not at all. That's why I said "keeping the v30 to play with." The Xr would be my daily beater.
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1+ is a welfare phone with a high price tag.
Not sure why people even get this device. 1+ acts like it has flagship specs while not even ACTUALLY offering flagship specs.what? Top of the line chip and more RAM that amounts to diminishing returns. All you actually need is 3gb worth of RAM. It's not a damn PC. 1+ cuts all the wrong corners. Look at the res of their screens.
If you want all the pros and cons of 1+ I'll give it to you. Just know there is 10X more cons then pros.
I would grab a V40 or a Samsung. Both come with SD card slots. Samsung doesn't have a quad dac though.
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They want $200 up front to jump to the V40 or Samsung.
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Nope, not at all. That's why I said "keeping the v30 to play with." The Xr would be my daily beater.
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I guess I don't understand. My V30 phone is my daily phone. I also have ANOTHER V30 to play around with.
But my "best" phone is going to be the phone I use all the time. I'm never going to tell people "oh but you should see the phone I have back at home!"
I want the phone I have in hand to have the best specs. "oh, I can't watch that video until I get back home!"
I'm never going to have a lesser phones as my daily phone. Especially as one as locked down as iPhone.
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I guess I don't understand. My V30 phone is my daily phone. I also have ANOTHER V30 to play around with.
But my "best" phone is going to be the phone I use all the time. I'm never going to tell people "oh but you should see the phone I have back at home!"
I want the phone I have in hand to have the best specs. "oh, I can't watch that video until I get back home!"
I'm never going to have a lesser phones as my daily phone. Especially as one as locked down as iPhone.
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I agree with everything you said. Ordering another v30.
Agree with the replies ++. Why anyone would consider 1+ is beyond me.
I have been Samsung since 2011. SGS, S2, then all of the following on release date - S3, Note 2, Note 3, S6E+, S7E, S8+. One week with my v30 and delighted. Audio was my biggest consideration and this more than meets my needs. Everything else is a pleasant bonus. And very good.
I don't consider it a downgrade at all. And whatever happens, I'm never ever getting a [email protected][email protected]÷= notch on any device ever.
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1+ is a welfare phone with a high price tag.
Not sure why people even get this device. 1+ acts like it has flagship specs while not even ACTUALLY offering flagship specs.what? Top of the line chip and more RAM that amounts to diminishing returns. All you actually need is 3gb worth of RAM. It's not a damn PC. 1+ cuts all the wrong corners. Look at the res of their screens.
If you want all the pros and cons of 1+ I'll give it to you. Just know there is 10X more cons then pros.
I would grab a V40 or a Samsung. Both come with SD card slots. Samsung doesn't have a quad dac though.
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2018 Samsung Note 9 or Galaxy S9/S9+:
* does NOT have the notch
* has headset jack
* has current Snapdragon
* has 1440p OLED
* has Qi wireless charging
* has IP68 rating.
Any of those three would be preferable to OnePlus crap. You don't have quad DAC, but they're all better than OnePlus 6T.
I still prefer the late 2017 LG V30, as it's a better size than those - - but I would take them before OnePlus 6T.
I would even buy the 2018 LG V35 (similar to the G7, but no notch) and try to make it work for me before OnePlus. V35 is basically updated V30.
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They want $200 up front to jump to the V40 or Samsung.
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Because you're buying a real premium phone with either of those. However, come Christmas they'll probably have some better deals.
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2018 Samsung Note 9 or Galaxy S9/S9+:
* does NOT have the notch
* has headset jack
* has current Snapdragon
* has 1440p OLED
* has Qi wireless charging
* has IP68 rating.
Any of those three would be preferable to OnePlus crap. You don't have quad DAC, but they're all better than OnePlus 6T.
I still prefer the late 2017 LG V30, as it's a better size than those - - but I would take them before OnePlus 6T.
I would even buy the 2018 LG V35 (similar to the G7, but no notch) and try to make it work for me before OnePlus. V35 is basically updated V30.
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*Probably can't even root yet
*Likely will never have bootloader unlocked
You get what you pay for
ChazzMatt said:
2018 Samsung Note 9 or Galaxy S9/S9+:
* does NOT have the notch
* has headset jack
* has current Snapdragon
* has 1440p OLED
* has Qi wireless charging
* has IP68 rating.
Any of those three would be preferable to OnePlus crap. You don't have quad DAC, but they're all better than OnePlus 6T.
I still prefer the late 2017 LG V30, as it's a better size than those - - but I would take them before OnePlus 6T.
I would even buy the 2018 LG V35 (similar to the G7, but no notch) and try to make it work for me before OnePlus. V35 is basically updated V30.
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*Probably can't even root yet
*Likely will never have bootloader unlocked
You get what you pay for
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If you mean the LG V35, yes. However, all the Samsungs I listed have root -- at least the Exynos versions do. Not that I am recommending any of the Samsungs over the V30. I'm just pointing out OTHER flagship phones that have more features than OnePlus.
I took most of a year to research what phone would replace my 2014 Moto Quark (Moto Maxx, the international version of the Droid Turbo, which had all the AT&T LTE bands). I deeply examined every flagship phone coming out in 2017. V30 wasn't even on my list when I started, because I wasn't enamored of the V line. I wanted LG to make an LG G6, as good as they made the LG G2, and LG G3 before they went off the rails. But LG failed with the 2017 LG G6 by implementing an idiotic regionalized specs scheme -- where no LG G6 would get ALL the listed specs, plus they were using 2016 Snapdragon. The V30 then ended up being what the LG G6 should have been and was the perfect phone for me.
Part of the inherent problem with Original Poster is he seems to only be looking for T-mobile phones and he's buying on contract. I've NEVER bought on contract and the last phones I bought from a carrier were 2010/2011. Since then, I've bought straight from Google, imported from other countries, bought from OEM. I've been on AT&T since 2012 but never have owned an AT&T-branded phone.
The V30 has only been out a year, and right now I don't see anything better out there. I kept my 2014 Moto Quark for three years for the same reason. And there are Droid Turbo (Moto Quark) users in here who can back me up on that. In 2014 it was a beast of a machine (3GB RAM, 1440p OLED, 3900 mAh battery, 21MP camera, Qi wireless charging, etc), and only by 2017 when Snapdragon 835 came along, plus fingerprint sensors, plus IP ratings was there phones "good enough" to replace the Moto Quark (Droid Turbo, Moto Turbo, Moto Maxx).
But I didn't want to lose any hardware features I already had. Headset jack, 1440p OLED, Qi wireless charging, etc. The V30 has all that and more -- including microSD card. Plus of course bootloader unlock and root. Which is why I bought the B&H Photo "open market" that was supposedly guaranteed that, instead of any carrier model that would not. Yes, we now have WTF bootloader unlock and root, but we didn't have that when I bought mine.
Since I've had my v30, I honestly haven't had any reason to root it. What are you guys obtaining from rooting?
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Is this as close to the perfect smartphone as you can get? It checks every single box for me, all the right ideas in the right ways. And did you see that blue version? Salivating...
I know it's early, but has anyone heard anything about the release date? I think I really need this one
September 21st in Korea then a bit later in other countries i heard?
I may very well preorder this one. I have an LG G3 and love it. If only the V30 gets root will I buy.
Looks great. I would have liked to see 6GB of RAM for a bit more future proofing. Also, I'd like to see LG more friendly wrt bootloader unlocking... but that's not really a criticism of this phone specifically.
If this is $5 cheaper than Pixel XL 2, I'm going for it considering it can be rooted. This could easily give the new Pixel a run for it's money if cheaper.
Echoing all your sentiments. I'm excited.
Anyone have experience regarding LG and how developer/custom ROM-friendly their phones are?
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Echoing all your sentiments. I'm excited.
Anyone have experience regarding LG and how developer/custom ROM-friendly their phones are?
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They lock down the BL on most models but there is usually always one model thats unlockable.
The trick is buying the correct model so you dont get stuck with one that you cant even root. I think the only G6 worth buying was the H870 intl version all the other BLs were not unlockable ( dont quote me on that lol).
The V30 has my attention for sure...may go with it over the note 8 but all pending an unlockable bootloader.
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Excited for the LG V30! Get the International Version Single SIM , it will surely get root and more community support. This is in the case for most LG flagships.
Good to know thanks @Ali Mirza
Ali Mirza said:
Excited for the LG V30! Get the International Version Single SIM , it will surely get root and more community support. This is in the case for most LG flagships.
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Yes true...lets keep our fingers crossed.
The only thing this device is missing is stereo speakers...i never use earphones on my phones. Other than that LG has literally covered all the bases.
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yeah im looking for this one to drop on tmo
Will be watching closely for an unlocked Bootloader model...
The phone looks good, but I'd like to have in this phone these things:
1- UFS 2.1, the phone has UFS 2.0
2- Stereo speakers
3- 6 GB of rams
And finally better front camera. The phone's front camera has just 5 MP and f/2.2, this is so disappointing.
lg site reports UFS 2.1
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lg site reports UFS 2.1
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I didn't read the site unfortunately, I just read the specs from IFA. I will check the specs from LG site. Thanks for intention.
I want this phone especially because of the F/1.6 Lens aperture (yeah, I always look at the spec sheet and camera is important for me as I take lots of photos). But, as noted on this site that it appears to be F/1.69! hopefully it is only a firmware issue that Lg will fix. If indeed it is F/1.69 then I will pass. I await for word from LG on what is the real story. I know you can't round off F1.69 to F/1.6 and hopefully it is just a screwup in either the the testing software or phone firmware.
Well, it seems that LG has confirmed that it is indeed f/1.6 lense and most likely the units tested were pre-release without updated firmware and software. Good. I will buy!
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The phone looks good, but I'd like to have in this phone these things:
1- UFS 2.1, the phone has UFS 2.0
2- Stereo speakers
3- 6 GB of rams
And finally better front camera. The phone's front camera has just 5 MP and f/2.2, this is so disappointing.
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Considering the price, these are things they should have done. Both Samsung, Huawei, OnePlus and a few others have 6GB RAM models and ufs 2.1 for same price or significantly cheaper.
Will we recognize ufs 2.0 vs 2.1 in day to day? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Who's to say. But the 6Gb of RAM vs 4Gb will definitely be felt.
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Looks great. I would have liked to see 6GB of RAM for a bit more future proofing.
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The only thing this device is missing is stereo speakers...i never use earphones on my phones. Other than that LG has literally covered all the bases.
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Yes, I would like 6GB RAM and front-facing stereo speakers. With everything else, this phone would then be perfect. This phone is what the LG G6 should have been. None of that stupid "regionalized" specs crap, where no country got Qi wireless, quad DAC, and extra storage.
Glad LG is being sane and keeping the headset jack.
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The phone looks good, but I'd like to have in this phone these things:
1- UFS 2.1, the phone has UFS 2.0
2- Stereo speakers
3- 6 GB of rams
And finally better front camera. The phone's front camera has just 5 MP and f/2.2, this is so disappointing.
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All of us are pretty much thinking alike, so not sure why LG didn't also think of this? I don't understand some OEMs. They never want to make the "perfect" phone, when they easily could.
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Also, I'd like to see LG more friendly wrt bootloader unlocking... but that's not really a criticism of this phone specifically.
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Wait for the U.S. and European carrier unlocked versions to be released. Those are eligible for bootloader unlock. Do NOT buy a carrier-branded LG V30 if you care about bootloader unlock, root, TWRP, custom kernels, ROMs...
See this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73652182&postcount=7
My phone is Xperia Z2 and it's almost die, I bought it three years ago, but now the time has come to change it. I want to buy a new phone and I'm thinking of the HTC U11 and the LG V30. What are you thoughts guys?
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My phone is Xperia Z2 and it's almost die, I bought it three years ago, but now the time has come to change it. I want to buy a new phone and I'm thinking of the HTC U11 and the LG V30. What are you thoughts guys?
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Funny you should ask...
LG V30 vs. HTC U11: head-to-head with one of Android's most impressive phablets
While we started out thinking about the HTC U11 and LG V30 existing in much the same universe, as we start looking at individual features we keep spotting little way after little way that LG's phone feels like the superior, more functional, more polished handset. Compared to the U11, the V30 offers an analog headphone jack, has a bigger battery, supports wireless charging, and plenty other things that are simply lacking or are less well-done on the U11.
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So far they look about even in hardware specs and while the US998 model will likely feature an unlockable bootloader, is it worth it compared to the Pixel's dev support?
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So far they look about even in hardware specs and while the US998 model will likely feature an unlockable bootloader is it worth it compared to the Pixel's dev support?
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Pixel XL 2017 won't have headset jack, reportedly. Even though Google made fun of Apple for dropping theirs, and even though LG can do IP68 WITH a headset jack while Apple (so far, with iPhone 7) can only do IP67 without one.
There's really NO reason to drop the headset jack. You STILL have Bluetooth -- even with headset jack -- if you want to use ear pods or whatever. It's not either/or. Just like Qi wireless charging. I use Qi wireless when I can, but yeah sometimes I plug in. It's nice to have both options.
If dev support is you number one priority Pixel will always be the better choice. However you seem to be loosing so many features by going with the Pixel.
Depends what's important to you.
Audio: HiFi audio and headphone jack important then the V30 is the only real option
Camera: Manual mode, features and wide angle or a likely excellent auto camera?
Storage: Expandable storage yes or no.
Look and design: I think the V30 is a nce looking device the Pixel not 100% sure yet.
OS: Is stock android and faster update important to you? Same with dev support.
I don't think it that hard once you think about what's important to you. For me it's the V30 over the pixel all day.
Don't forget the Huawei mate 10, announced 16th Oct
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Don't forget the Huawei mate 10, announced 16th Oct
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Won't have Qi wireless charging, I would bet.
Probably no quad DAC either.
Therefore, no thanks.
Will the v30 get an unlockable bootloader?
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Will the v30 get an unlockable bootloader?
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Yes, the U.S. and European carrier unlocked versions will be eligible for official LG bootloader unlock. REAL bootloader unlock, not the "faux" bootloader unlock the T-mobile LG G6 got. Six months later there's still no root nor TWRP nor custom ROMs that can be flashed on T-mobile LG G6, while there's tons of dev work on the U.S. and European "carrier unlocked" LG G, which got REAL bootloader unlock.
You can check the list here and it will be updated when the LG V30 carrier unlocked versions are released.
LG Developer - Unlock Bootloader -Supported Devices
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
The U.S. carrier unlocked version will be LG V30 US998.USA
And yes the "carrier unlocked" LG G6 US998 will have LTE band 71. T-mobile confirmed it.
Google Pixel 1 was a retarded device (see nexus 6 design, it was 100 times better and with less bezels)
Google pixel 2 seems to be retarded also, BUT Pixel 2 XL seems to have a nice design with small bezels but no audio jack HAHA (copying apple eh?)
If they don't put something like dual camera wide angle, front facing autofocus 2/4k camera and super mega large battery, then they can keep that thing;
still here in europe they don't sell pixel 1, so no one will give a **** about pixel 2
sad to say, but samsung is doing a really great job with their S8/+ phones
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sad to say, but samsung is doing a really great job with their S8/+ phones
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They are selling well. They've always had an issue with 3rd party audio apps streaming Bluetooth with the track data to other devices though - For me at least. Audio volume and quality is something I dislike with Samsung too. And for the s8 and s8+,I hate bixby and that stupid dedicated button. I don't have the need to talk to a virtual assistant. /rant
I'd go with Pixel XL 2. It it will always be running latest OS. However if you care about camera and audio then V30 is the way to go. For me the pixel xl had a great camera and Pixel XL 2 will excell that. Nothing to worry about. I love the design of the V30 however long term use the Pixel XL 2 is a definitely better option. I'm currently using the XZ Premium which I'm very happy with coming from Samsung. My next phone would be pixel though. Also you might want to wait for the Mate 10 which would be another beast.
I'm sort of torn between Pixel XL2 and LG V30. If you want dev support, Pixel all the way. There is no way to know in which circumstances the V30 will get an unlockable bootloader.
Coming from a Xperia Z2 and later a Xperia Z5, I have a bitter taste in my mouth. If you unlocked your bootloader, you'd delete your TA partitions (which enabled Sony's propriatery camera functions). So despite selling amazing camera hardware to many phone companies, and supposedly using the best on their own phones, you'd get a ****ty camera performance when you had a rooted phone.
LG makes me quite cautious on this matter. Yes we have a 1.6" aperture which will let in more light in dark conditions, but we have a smaller sensor as well. Instead of hardware developments we see a lot of software -gimmicks or features- however you'd want to name them. If i lose any of those features/gimmicks on an open bootloader on a custom rom, or a different camera app I'd be furious. I don't want a locked down and forced software covering bad quality (like Samsung's over saturation of everything, not that they have bad hardware) Pre-release software V30's don't always seem to be doing fantastic on image processing (and sometimes they're amazing) and even though they are pre-release specimens I'd hate to have another gamble with this.
Pixel on the other hand, seems like it'll have a huge sensor. That'll be hard to **** up with software (even though it was Pixels amazing camera firmware that gave it those amazing shots). Honestly, I don't care about a second camera on my phone. I want a proper main camera and thats it. IF and only IF my phone is going to have two cameras, I'd like to have them in "Wide>Monochrome>telephoto" order. IF i have to. That is why I'm going with the V30 and not the Note8 (that, and the 6" sweet spot on the small bezel screens. Anything below 6" seems to narrow, and anything above 6" seems too big and a waste of battery considering the smaller batteries they come with because of the smaller body)
I love the Quad DAC, and I love the headphone jack, but I'd rather have a stereo speaker setup. I often find myself connecting to my car bluetooth or a bluetooth speaker if I'm on a camp or something. Hell I'll just keep a pair of wireless headphones on me. Which is why I don't lament the loss of a replacable battery. I have tons of rechargeable items on me at any time now. So I'd rahter just carry a powerbank and charge anything, instead of replace the battery on my phone.
Wireless charging is one of those things where you don't know how much you needed them until you have them. So I'd like that as well.
I can go forever on this. (I feel like I already have)
So to sum it up:
Dev support: Pixel
Multimedia consumption/creation: V30 (unless the camera ****s up massively)
For me it'll be V30 most likely, for the DAC and jack (and then design). One of the unlocked ones, so that hopefully I can root and get rid of whatever bloat it comes with and restore it to the closest stock experience possible. I'm not too hopeful on custom ROMs though as I think the DAC won't be supported for some time (will it ever? not sure the V20 ROMs ever got it?).
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There is no way to know in which circumstances the V30 will get an unlockable bootloader.
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Yes there is. The U.S. and European "carrier unlocked" LG V30 versions will be eligible for bootloader unlock, just like with LG G6, V20, LG V10, LG G5, LG G4, etc.
Go look at this pattern:
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
And stay away from carrier stores. T-Mobile proved with the LG G6 and Samsung models this year they are no longer dev friendly.
But I do agree with your other comments about no stereo speakers. LG missed an opportunity.
I also agree about Qi wireless charging. I won't buy a phone without it.
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Yes there is. The U.S. and European "carrier unlocked" LG V30 versions will be eligible for bootloader unlock, just like with LG G6, V20, LG V10, LG G5, LG G4, etc.
Go look at this pattern:
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
And stay away from carrier stores. T-Mobile proved with the LG G6 and Samsung models this year they are no longer dev friendly.
But I do agree with your other comments about no stereo speakers. LG missed an opportunity.
I also agree about Qi wireless charging. I won't buy a phone without it.
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I did read your original post regarding this, and makes a lot of sense.
What I meant to say was that we don't know if we'll lose any functionality by unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom rom. I say this because of my history with the Xperia Z series. I know LG didn't do something like this before, but there was a lot of software focus on the presentation. Some of it might be tied down to LG's original rom.
The lack of stereo speakers in such an audio-centric device bother me a lot honestly. I mean there is already a speaker placed up there for calls. Just make it a little higher in quality. Sure it won't be boomsound unless they spend more money on it and lose profits, but we'd atleast be able to understand where a certain sound is coming from. A ton of songs use stereo effects, let alone videos.
And as a last point, we don't have carrier-branded phones where I live so I'm safe on that regard. But like you said, if we had them, I wouldn't touch them with a ten feet pole.
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There is no way to know in which circumstances the V30 will get an unlockable bootloader.
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Yes there is. The U.S. and European "carrier unlocked" LG V30 versions will be eligible for bootloader unlock, just like with LG G6, V20, LG V10, LG G5, LG G4, etc.
Go look at this pattern:
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
And stay away from carrier stores. T-Mobile proved with the LG G6 and Samsung models this year they are no longer dev friendly.
But I do agree with your other comments about no stereo speakers. LG missed an opportunity.
I also agree about Qi wireless charging. I won't buy a phone without it.
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I did read your original post regarding this, and makes a lot of sense.
What I meant to say was that we don't know if we'll lose any functionality by unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom rom. I say this because of my history with the Xperia Z series. I know LG didn't do something like this before, but there was a lot of software focus on the presentation. Some of it might be tied down to LG's original rom.
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Ah, I mis-read your post then. "There is no way to know in which circumstances the V30 will get an unlockable bootloader", I thought you meant which situations LG would allow it. You meant what complications would come with that.
You are correct. Last year, the ZTE Axon 7 -- the one with the award-winning quad DAC and excellent front-facing speakers (cough, LG should have done that) -- made a decision to have a user-unlocked bootloader. BUT ZTE kept their quad DAC code under lock and seal. It was proprietary. So, while users could root the phone, with CM/Lineage custom ROM, there were lots of audio issues for months. Audio was badly distorted. Finally CM/LOS dev and others got that distortion under control, but I'm still not sure they are able to let custom ROMs use the quad DAC the way the stock firmware does. (I stopped keeping track about six months ago.)
As a result, many users stuck with stock firmware for best experience. Yes, it could still be rooted, and yes there's Gravity Box you can use with stock firmware so you can use the quad DAC functionality. And yes the ZTE Axon 7 still had the exact same 5.5" AMOLED 1444p display the Pixel XL had. But you lost all that great audio functionality if you installed custom ROM. (At least for several months, I don't know the current situation.)
So, you are right. There's tons of magic in this LG V30 (audio and camera), but depending on if LG lets devs have access to that, it's possible custom ROM experience would suffer.
Feels like the whole Nexus 5 vs LG G2 saga all over again.
I had both and while the Nexus 5 was way smoother than the G2, the G2 was by far the better phone as they cut way too many corners on the Nexus 5. :crying:
Will be interesting to see how this one pans out.
Personally, I'd go for the V30. Don't buy this whole, "Courage," crap and bet the battery in the Pixel 2 wont be as good as the V30. Thinking about USB type C, if only they'd designed the port to be round.
Pixel Vs LG V30
Google pixel's features are good and used those feature and its awesome.
Pixel for photography. V30 has the worst camera of all 2017 flagships.
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Pixel for photography. V30 has the worst camera of all 2017 flagships.
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All the reviews say the LG V30 camera is among the best. One example:
LG V30 hands on – a mobile photography powerhouse
www.androidauthority.com/lg-v30-review-797089
Another one:
Camera Shootout: Galaxy Note 8 Vs. Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 Vs. LG V30
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin...-8-vs-xiaomi-mi-mix-2-vs-lg-v30/#73e4b9b85764
You're just trying to start an argument?
Plus, you don't even know what the Pixel 2017 will have. Yes, it will probably have a very good camera ALSO.
Hello to everyone! i'm new posting on xda but, this forum has always been my reference in phones since almost 10 years and until today i've never needed to post anything because everything I was looking for was already answered
But today is different, to put ourselves in context I own a LG G6, I LOVE the phone, but yesterday, the camera glass cracked like a cookie, at night in a table, alone, for no reason, and Amazon refunded the money to me, so I was planning to buy another LG G6, when I found the V30. With the refund a new LG G6 would be 100€ less (than what I paid initially) and the V30 about 120€ more.
And thats my question, i've been looking all the videos, checking the reviews, comparisions, everithing... but i'm right where I started, I don`t know what to do.
One of my biggest fears with the V30 is de OLED screen, i had a Nexus 6, and the screen went burned in and yellowish, and thats not something that i want to repeat, i've seen some images of the pixel 2 XL with less than 6 months and they looks awfull, the V30 seems to have the same screen but i could not founth anything about it... (besides, I really like the G6 screen)
I really like the G6, it's almost the perfect phone for me, size, specifications... but i think that if I pick the V30 i could end winning in quality and support.
The rest of the specs are obviously better, Quad DAC (pretty interesting), better glass and sensor in rear camera, bigger screen, processor and capacity...
can you give me a hand?
Thanks a lot
My opinion is the V30 is what the LG G6 SHOULD have been. 64GB storage, Qi wireless, quad DAC -- in all the phones, not "regionalized" specs.
Plus dual rear cameras with an IMPROVED wide angle lens, etc.
Even in design, the G6 was the prototype for the V30. The V30 has more "finished" aesthetic.
Also, Snapdragon 835 vs 2016 Snapdragon 821.
LG V30 has software to prevent burn in that apparently the 2017 Google Pixel 2 XL doesn't have. It's mentioned in one of the articles I read.
Here, go read this article:
LG V30 vs LG G6 quick look: LG has finally hit a groove
https://www.androidauthority.com/lg-v30-vs-lg-g6-797227/
Final thoughts
There you have it, our look at the LG V30 vs LG G6. It should be clear to anyone looking at these two devices, that the V30 offers the superior experience. It just has more features and better specs, and it’s arguably a nicer-looking phone than the LG G6. It took them a while, but it looks like LG has finally hit gold. Let’s just hope customers will reward them by opening up their wallets.
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If you can get the LG V30 open market US998, you can even unlock the bootloader and root. Or at the very least, use it on any carrier you wish. Ah, you mentioned Euros. So, you want the H930 (V30) or the H30G (V30+). That's the European equivalent of the open market US998, eligible for bootloader unlock.
ChazzMatt said:
My opinion is the V30 is what the LG G6 SHOULD have been. 64GB storage, Qi wireless, quad DAC -- in all the phones, not "regionalized" specs.
Plus dual rear cameras with an IMPROVED wide angle lens, etc.
Even in design, the G6 was the prototype for the V30. The V30 has more "finished" aesthetic.
Also, Snapdragon 835 vs 2016 Snapdragon 821.
LG V30 has software to prevent burn in that apparently the 2017 Google Pixel 2 XL doesn't have. It's mentioned in one of the articles I read.
Here, go read this article:
LG V30 vs LG G6 quick look: LG has finally hit a groove
If you can get the LG V30 open market US998, you can even unlock the bootloader and root. Or at the very least, use it on any carrier you wish. Ah, you mentioned Euros. So, you want the H930 (V30) or the H30G (V30+). That's the European equivalent of the open market US998, eligible for bootloader unlock.
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Thanks a lot ChazzMatt!
iI've placed the order to Amazon (the H930) it should arrive this week, if it's as good as i've been reading, the v30 should be amazing
Yeah man, there is no doubt, the v30 is superior in every way. They took what was good about the g6 and added that to the content creation stuff the V series has to offer.
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Hello to everyone! i'm new posting on xda but, this forum has always been my reference in phones since almost 10 years and until today i've never needed to post anything because everything I was looking for was already answered
But today is different, to put ourselves in context I own a LG G6, I LOVE the phone, but yesterday, the camera glass cracked like a cookie, at night in a table, alone, for no reason, and Amazon refunded the money to me, so I was planning to buy another LG G6, when I found the V30. With the refund a new LG G6 would be 100€ less (than what I paid initially) and the V30 about 120€ more.
And thats my question, i've been looking all the videos, checking the reviews, comparisions, everithing... but i'm right where I started, I don`t know what to do.
One of my biggest fears with the V30 is de OLED screen, i had a Nexus 6, and the screen went burned in and yellowish, and thats not something that i want to repeat, i've seen some images of the pixel 2 XL with less than 6 months and they looks awfull, the V30 seems to have the same screen but i could not founth anything about it... (besides, I really like the G6 screen)
I really like the G6, it's almost the perfect phone for me, size, specifications... but i think that if I pick the V30 i could end winning in quality and support.
The rest of the specs are obviously better, Quad DAC (pretty interesting), better glass and sensor in rear camera, bigger screen, processor and capacity...
can you give me a hand?
Thanks a lot
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The V30 is an upgraded G6.
Do you want the G6 or an upgraded version of it?
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I have an LG V30 64gb dual sim and i bought a xiaomi MI8 brand new, sealed, global version, for around 280usd,the 6gb and 64 gb black variant.Now i am facing a dilemma, as to what to do with the mi8, resell it for around 350 usd, as it is, or keep it and sell my v30?! if anyone has made this switch, feel free to share your feedback and thoughts as i am very undecided yet.thanks for your input guys!
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I have an LG V30 64gb dual sim and i bought a xiaomi MI8 brand new, sealed, global version, for around 280usd,the 6gb and 64 gb black variant.Now i am facing a dilemma, as to what to do with the mi8, resell it for around 350 usd, as it is, or keep it and sell my v30?! if anyone has made this switch, feel free to share your feedback and thoughts as i am very undecided yet.thanks for your input guys!
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Not a fair comparison.
Mi8 is only 1080p, while V30 is 1440p.
Mi8 does NOT have headset jack, while V30 has headset jack and quad DAC
Mi8 does NOT have Qi wireless charging, while V30 does have convenient Qi wireless charging.
Mi8 does NOT have any kind of IP rating, while V30 has IP68 dust/water resistance.
Mi8 does NOT have microSD expansion port -- while you can add up to 512GB microSD card. I have another 256GB card right now in my V30.
Mi8 does NOT have FM radio, while... well you know.
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Not a fair comparison.
Mi8 is only 1080p, while V30 is 1440p.
Mi8 does NOT have headset jack, while V30 has headset jack and quad DAC
Mi8 does NOT have Qi wireless charging, while V30 does have convenient Qi wireless charging.
Mi8 does NOTt have microSD expansion port, while you can add 512GB microSD card. I have another 256GB card right now in my V30.
Mi8 does NOT have FM radio, while... well you know.
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thanks chazz, i am aware of all those things, but on the flipside mi8 has a larger screen, a newer and more powerful sd845, more ram, 6gb,a state of art faceunlock along with a great 20mp front camera. and probably, not sure yet, but probably a better camera. and btw, that bump in resolution is not that big of a thing on a small display. after all, there are 100cm tvs with fullhd... hence my dilemma.
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thanks chazz, i am aware of all those things, but on the flipside mi8 has a larger screen, a newer and more powerful sd845, more ram, 6gb,a state of art faceunlock along with a great 20mp front camera. and probably, not sure yet, but probably a better camera. and btw, that bump in resolution is not that big of a thing on a small display. after all, there are 100cm tvs with fullhd... hence my dilemma.
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V30 has better rear camera.
I prefer the features of a premium phone.
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V30 has better rear camera.
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are you sure about the camera?! i mean i see some nice photos on the v30, but then again it only has 1.0 micron puxels against 1.4 on the mi8. and zooming in, details are not that great...
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are you sure about the camera?! i mean i see some nice photos on the v30, but then again it only has 1.0 micron puxels against 1.4 on the mi8. and zooming in, details are not that great...
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https://www.smartprix.com/mobiles/xiaomi_mi_8_vs_lg_v30-c1101h7tbi2x_1101bncegxm.php
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lev04 said:
thanks chazz, i am aware of all those things, but on the flipside mi8 has a larger screen, a newer and more powerful sd845, more ram, 6gb,a state of art faceunlock along with a great 20mp front camera. and probably, not sure yet, but probably a better camera. and btw, that bump in resolution is not that big of a thing on a small display. after all, there are 100cm tvs with fullhd... hence my dilemma.
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My 2014 60" (152cm) TV in my living room is 1080p. But then again it's not current 4K TV. If I bought a new TV it would be 4K, nothing less.
But I've had 1440p QHD on all my phones since 2014 and I consider that a "premium" feature -- along with Qi wireless charging (which I've had since 2013 on my phones, and my wife and I use every day).
I'm not downgrading features for a "new" phone. I'm making an obvious distorted comparison here, but a "new" economy car is not better than a 1-year old Lexus/Acura/BMW. Yes, the V30 probably should have had more RAM to future proof it more. But my V30 is not slow nor does it lag. Yes, the V30 probably should have had better selfie cam -- but it works well for what I use it for and the Oreo updates have brought improvements.
Phones like the MI8 (and especially OnePlus ilk) have too many missing features for me to even consider seriously. They have current CPU and RAM, but are not true "premium" phones that I would be proud to own. However, that is a personal choice.
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https://www.smartprix.com/mobiles/xiaomi_mi_8_vs_lg_v30-c1101h7tbi2x_1101bncegxm.php
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My 60" TV in my living room is 1080p. But I've had 1440p QHD on my phones since 2014 and I consider that a "premium" feature -- along with Qi wireless charging (which I've had since 2013 on my phones, and my wife and I use every day).
I'm not downgrading features for a "new" phone. I'm making an obvious distorted comparison here, but a "new" economy car is not better than a 1-year old Lexus/Acura/BMW. Yes, the V30 probably should have had more RAM to future proof it more. But my V30 is not slow nor does it lag. Yes, the V30 probably should have had better selfie cam -- but it works well for what I use it for and the Oreo updates have brought improvements.
Phones like the MI8 (and especially OnePlus ilk) have too many missing features for me to even consider seriously.
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yeah, i get your point, you are right. the v30 for sure is a very good phone. but you know what makes me angry? the fact that it could have been a great phone with some proper software updates. but lg is neglecting it big time . all other companies either have updated their devices or are updating them right now, while lg is nowhere with android 9.the mi8 has received not only android 9,but a few other small updates after that!!! just today i rwad that the g7, current flagship, will get android 9 update in Q1 2019, but only in korea!! imagine when the v30 will, if it will, get it!! and that makes very mad!
I have spent days facing the same dilemma
My new V30+ is on it's way
Things that won against Mi8 were: wide camera, design, DAC, IP68. These things were more important to me than newest chipset and more ram.
I seriously think this is still the biggest bang for a buck you can get, no phone is perfect but this one is pretty close.
The resolution alone is definitely a nice thing (1080p to 1440p) but I think it's still important to mention screen size or at least DPI (V30: 537, Mi8: 402).
Anyways, another point I think ChazzMatt didn't mention is the Mi is by Xiaomi... from China... and LG is from South Korea. This isn't necessarily due to the warnings from the US Government about spying or whatever it was but even if those concerns are untrue, I'd rather not assist the dictator of a communist state with anything if it can be reasonably avoided. Regardless of that, I have three speculations to what's going on with being able to give such products at such a low price:
Other companies just have unnecessarily high profit margins and Xiamoi is just doing things with less of a profit made.
Corners are being cut in manufacturing and/or quality control which may result in a phone which can't last very long since people tend to replace their phones every year (for some odd reason).
Or... it's really just the result of the poor labor practices/working conditions, extremely cheap wages and currency manipulation... among other things.
The first one is obviously not an issue. It just means companies like LG are making more of a profit than "necessary" to present a phone to consumers. The second one is a potential issue assuming you want your phone to last but obviously just "potential" as it's possible for things to exit China which are made well and have good QC (like some pocket knives). The third one is similar to the point about assisting China.
I think it's clear these considerations are largely based on principle, much like how people often prefer to buy US-made products instead of products made elsewhere.
I also agree the V30 is an amazing bang for the buck phone, especially when you buy the V30+ and convert it and/or get an "open box" kind of "phone only" deal.
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Other companies just have unnecessarily high profit margins and Xiamoi is just doing things with less of a profit made.
Corners are being cut in manufacturing and/or quality control which may result in a phone which can't last very long since people tend to replace their phones every year (for some odd reason).
Or... it's really just the result of the poor labor practices/working conditions, extremely cheap wages and currency manipulation... among other things.
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Lol my Chinese born and raised tech friend says its [3] 9/10 times. He is terrified of Xiaomi and Huawei XD. He calls the Chinese govt, Huawei and Xiaomi goblins in reference to the anime Goblin slayer
You can read my lg v30 review, lg v30 have a lot advantage plus its cheaper for 2nd/refurbish one. The only advantage is the mi 8 is only three :
Speedy update with android pie
Nav gesture built in miui
ir face camera unlock, unlock speedy in the dark or lowlight when you are using face unlock
the list for lg v30 advantage is too long, read all above post
I changed to the V30+ from my Droid Turbo after ChazzMatt had a thought where he would go to after the Droid Turbo got old. The V30 was a great choice even we knew LG is real crap with system updates.
I have the V30+ almost for two years and had several thought to change it in the last half a year. I'm on rooted stock oreo. I'm not a heavy user, but battery time is getting on my nerves by now.
I did all that is possible with the stock system. I see that some has 5-6hrs os SOT with limiting frequencies, using the lowest light settings all day, and who knows what other mods with cutting functions.
Nope, I don't make compromises. I did not buy a premium phone to cut back frequencies, to try to read the low light screen in bright sun... I did all the optimal settings, but screen time is around 3hrs in a day use.
Deepsleep was always a high consumer. 3-4% per hr with all the non-used apps turned off. My Mi5 does this with 0.3%, and my DroidTrubo also does that.
So my question where to go from the V30+?
I've been looking the LG V50 for quite a while, but my fear is, that staying on the LG-train means the same ****ty system updates, badly optimized battery management... and absolutely no developer background, no root.
I'm fine with the factory system as I need all cameras, so probably would survive that I can not root.
I went all other possibilities, and there is no other choice but the Samsung S10+, if you need water resistance and sturdiness. Everything votes for the Samsung, but build quality.
Same cameras, more RAM, same battery, smaller size... can be rooted, has decent developer background.
I had Samsung before and swore not to get one again. But there is no other choice.
What do you think everybody? @ChazzMatt, I really would like to know your thoughts also...
Thanks for all the useful comments!
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I changed to the V30+ from my Droid Turbo after ChazzMatt had a thought where he would go to after the Droid Turbo got old. The V30 was a great choice even we knew LG is real crap with system updates.
I have the V30+ almost for two years and had several thought to change it in the last half a year. I'm on rooted stock oreo. I'm not a heavy user, but battery time is getting on my nerves by now.
I did all that is possible with the stock system. I see that some has 5-6hrs os SOT with limiting frequencies, using the lowest light settings all day, and who knows what other mods with cutting functions.
Nope, I don't make compromises. I did not buy a premium phone to cut back frequencies, to try to read the low light screen in bright sun... I did all the optimal settings, but screen time is around 3hrs in a day use.
Deepsleep was always a high consumer. 3-4% per hr with all the non-used apps turned off. My Mi5 does this with 0.3%, and my DroidTrubo also does that.
So my question where to go from the V30+?
I've been looking the LG V50 for quite a while, but my fear is, that staying on the LG-train means the same ****ty system updates, badly optimized battery management... and absolutely no developer background, no root.
I'm fine with the factory system as I need all cameras, so probably would survive that I can not root.
I went all other possibilities, and there is no other choice but the Samsung S10+, if you need water resistance and sturdiness. Everything votes for the Samsung, but build quality.
Same cameras, more RAM, same battery, smaller size... can be rooted, has decent developer background.
I had Samsung before and swore not to get one again. But there is no other choice.
What do you think everybody? @ChazzMatt, I really would like to know your thoughts also...
Thanks for all the useful comments!
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I'm afraid I am going to have give up root to keep top tier specs (headset jack, Qi wireless charging, QHD 1440p display).
If not LG V50, then yes Galaxy S10 (6.1") or S10+ (6.4"). Here are specs comparing all three phones. I'm not a Samsung fan either, but I'll consider them because that series still had headset jack. (The "all three" comparisons only show up on computer screen, not app screen.)
Right now LG is on some strange LSD trip, where they are reverting back to 1080p, using mid-range Snapdragon, and trying to force us to use multiple displays.
I have a mint LG V35 ready for my wife to use, but she isn't rooted anyway. No notch, 6GB RAM, basically a V40 in a V30 case. THAT was how LG should have continued.
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I'm afraid I am going to have give up root to keep top tier specs (headset jack, Qi wireless charging, QHD 1440p display).
If not LG V50, then yes Galaxy S10 (6.1") or S10+ (6.4"). Here are specs comparing all three phones. I'm not a Samsung fan either, but I'll consider them because that series still had headset jack.
Right now LG is on some strange LSD trip, where they are reverting back to 1080p, using mid-range Snapdragon, and trying to force us to use multiple displays.
I have a mint LG V35 ready for my wife to use, but she isn't rooted anyway. No notch, 6GB RAM, basically a V40 in a V30 case. THAT was how LG should have continued.
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When you decide to move on to another phone, please let us know.
I'll be right behind you.
Sony just announced a new flagship that looks interesting. It has most of the same features we loved in the V30, more memory, and the latest processor. Software support couldn't be worse than LG. Seriously, except for the anemic battery, my wife's XZ2c has been great. It was purchased from BHPhoto the same day as my V30S and has received regular updates including A10 months ago.
Thoughts?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...50-flagship-smartphone-with-a-headphone-jack/
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Sony just announced a new flagship that looks interesting. It has most of the same features we loved in the V30, more memory, and the latest processor. Software support couldn't be worse than LG. Seriously, except for the anemic battery, my wife's XZ2c has been great. It was purchased from BHPhoto the same day as my V30S and has received regular updates including A10 months ago.
Thoughts?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...50-flagship-smartphone-with-a-headphone-jack/
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1080p. I'm not downgrading. All my phones since 2014 have had 1440p. Why can't they give me QHD 1440p AND headset jack?
But the rest of the specs sound fantastic.
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Sony just announced a new flagship that looks interesting. It has most of the same features we loved in the V30, more memory, and the latest processor. Software support couldn't be worse than LG. Seriously, except for the anemic battery, my wife's XZ2c has been great. It was purchased from BHPhoto the same day as my V30S and has received regular updates including A10 months ago.
Thoughts?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...50-flagship-smartphone-with-a-headphone-jack/
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$950 = me sticking with my V30
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1080p. I'm not downgrading. Why can't they give my 1440p AND headset jack?
But the rest of the specs sound fantastic.
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There's also no wireless charging on that one afaik
I heard samsung was considering bringing back headphone jack with next S series phone, let's see how that goes
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There's also no wireless charging on that one afaik
I heard samsung was considering bringing back headphone jack with next S series phone, let's see how that goes
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Like the 2019 Galaxy S10 (6.1")/S10+ (6.4") -- both of which have QHD 1440p, Qi wireless charging, IP68 and headset jack. Plus stereo speakers. The S10+ has a 4100 mAh battery.
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9535&idPhone2=9536&idPhone3=9607
If Samsung adds headset jack back for 2021 and later, I'll be OK.
Qi wireless charging, QHD 1440p, even headset jack are "lines in the sand" for me I will not cross (do without). My 2014 Moto Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo) had all three. When I found the V30 in 2017 during a year long search to replace my phone, those were the attributes a new phone for me and my wife needed.
At the time only Samsung and LG were still doing Qi wireless charging. Even Google had given it up, even though they pioneered it with their Nexus phones (20012 Nexus 4, 2013 Nexus 5, 2014 Nexus 6). But then Apple started doing Qi wireless charging and Google then added it back because their Pixel team worships Apple. If Google had kept it the whole time, they would have gotten credit for being the trend setter.
ChazzMatt said:
Like the 2019 Galaxy S10 (6.1")/S10+ (6.4") -- both of which have QHD 1440p, Qi wireless charging, IP68 and headset jack. Plus stereo speakers. The S10+ has a 4100 mAh battery.
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9535&idPhone2=9536&idPhone3=9607
If Samsung adds headset jack back for 2021 and later, I'll be OK.
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Yeah Snapdragon S10 is still a good option and ticks most of the boxes
Sadly we've only the Exynos variant of s10 here
ChazzMatt said:
Like the 2019 Galaxy S10 (6.1")/S10+ (6.4") -- both of which have QHD 1440p, Qi wireless charging, IP68 and headset jack. Plus stereo speakers. The S10+ has a 4100 mAh battery.
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9535&idPhone2=9536&idPhone3=9607
If Samsung adds headset jack back for 2021 and later, I'll be OK.
Qi wireless charging, QHD 1440p, even headset jack are "lines in the sand" for me I will not cross (do without). My 2014 Moto Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo) had all three. When I found the V30 in 2017 during a year long search to replace my phone, those were the attributes a new phone needed.
At the time only Samsung and LG were still doing Qi wireless charging. Even Google had given it up, even though they pioneered it with their Nexus phones (20012 Nexus 4, 2013 Nexus 5, 2014 Nexus 6). But then Apple started doing Qi wireless charging and Google then added it back because their Pixel team worships Apple.
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I agree with your lines in the sand except for the 1440p, that doesn't matter to me. My only question is whether the S10 or the V50 are boot unlockable?
ldeveraux said:
I agree with your lines in the sand except for the 1440p, that doesn't matter to me. My only question is whether the S10 or the V50 are boot unlockable?
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I haven't kept up so much with the Samsung variants, but as far as I know for the LG V50 only the Europe variant (LMV500EM) has true bootloader unlock through the official LG unlock code. Our V30 LOS dev also is dev for V40 and V50 and he owns one. And by "true", I mean permanent. There's a temp root method for other V50 variants, but it's lost every time you reboot. The last time I looked on eBay for V50, I couldn't find any Europe variants, only "carrier unlocked" Sprint variant. (Hint for others: if the eBay listing says "unlocked" they are usually talking about SIM card unlock/network unlock, not bootloader unlock.)
However, while I have bought "international" phones in the past, I'm wary right now with the coming U.S. carrier VoLTE lockdown. By 2022 on AT&T I'll need a phone/firmware that gives me AT&T VoLTE. Verizon and T-mobile users will need it by the end of this year. That topic discussed here:
All U.S. V30/V3O+/V30S will need stock firmware, not LOS-based custom ROMs. When?
ldeveraux said:
I agree with your lines in the sand except for the 1440p, that doesn't matter to me. My only question is whether the S10 or the V50 are boot unlockable?
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Some V50 have temp root, you could check about it on v50 xda
S10 exynos has good development, not sure about the snapdragon variant though
Best thing to do would be to visit the xda sub-forum for each device and see how everything is
tech_infinity said:
Some V50 have temp root, you could check about it on v50 xda
S10 exynos has good development, not sure about the snapdragon variant though
Best thing to do would be to visit the xda sub-forum for each device and see how everything is
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I've never heard of temp root but it sounds awful. I didn't want to research new phones after finally getting the V30 the way I wanted it. I'll just wait for Chazzmatt to upgrade, then I'll copy him!
ldeveraux said:
I've never heard of temp root but it sounds awful. I didn't want to research new phones after finally getting the V30 the way I wanted it. I'll just wait for Chazzmatt to upgrade, then I'll copy him!
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Yeah, this part:
By virtue of being a “temp root” method, root access will be lost as soon as you reboot your phone. Moreover, Android Verified Boot 2.0 may kick in and brick your phone if you try to make permanent changes to protected partitions such as boot, system, and vendor without an unlocked bootloader. That being said, the exploit is currently available in its compiled form, while the developer will soon release the source code. The executable should be invoked from a regular ADB shell or a terminal emulator, and it should show the following message after successful privilege escalation.
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On the old Motorola Droid Turbo, towards the end of development after Motorola tried to patch the Sunshine exploit, a one-time temp root was necessary for Sunshine to run to unlock the bootloader. But this is different. It's a continual cycle of "temp root", which you have to implement every time you reboot the phone.
For the S10/S10+ only the Exynos and Hong Kong Snapdragon variants can be bootloader unlocked and rooted, to my knowledge. For Hong Kong, it uses Snapdragon and Samsung puts easy bootloader unlock switch like with older T-mobile phones. But U.S. Snapdragon variants are hard locked down due to carrier demands. Exynos chips are used in other parts of the world and have bootloader unlock.
This thread claims you can get a U.S. S10+ bootloader unlocked and with TWRP installed from Chinese hacker.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/g975u-discussion-root-bl-unlock-t3929385/page23
StoneyJSG said:
The forum user here Moriatier supposedly has a U.S. Galaxy S10 that is rooted and twrp installed. He said some hacker guy in China did it. Not sure how legit or true this is, but he claims he has root with twrp.
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But other than that, seems impossible for regular people.
XDA article from this weekend indicates that Snapdragon s10 can be bootloader unlocked.
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-20-ultra-root-us-unlocked-snapdragon-865/
That link is for the galaxy note 20 ultra. 1 or 2 US phones can be rooted like the sprint S10 5G version. The S10 line is mainly locked down. The S9 just got root a few months ago.
StoneyJSG said:
That link is for the galaxy note 20 ultra. 1 or 2 US phones can be rooted like the sprint S10 5G version. The S10 line is mainly locked down. The S9 just got root a few months ago.
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If you read the article, it states that it is also for other models, which it lists the S10 as one.
Well holy crap! Someone leaked a Samsung tool that unlocks the bootloader, nice! $150 though...
mac62 said:
If you read the article, it states that it is also for other models, which it lists the S10 as one.
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I think you'll find ~1 person on XDA willing to pay for BL unlock.
mac62 said:
If you read the article, it states that it is also for other models, which it lists the S10 as one.
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Interesting. But $150?
Magisk Hide is still letting SafetyNet pass, so things like Google Pay work without issue. I can (and have) installed Magisk modules without any issues, and now I’ve got the experience I wanted, with full US compatibility and a proper warranty.
Interestingly, this isn’t even an exploit. The root process makes use of internal Samsung tools.
It’s also not free. I paid quite a bit to unlock my phone. Not $550-$700-worth, but still a good chunk of change. But for me, it was worth it. Now my phone is my phone, and since Samsung has a bootloader unlockable variant that uses the same Snapdragon 865+, I have access to plenty of development work. Again, though, it’s not free, and you’ll be paying up to $150 to get a bootloader unlock. Compatibility is also currently limited to the Galaxy S10, Galaxy S20, Galaxy Note 10, and Galaxy Note 20 series.
If, for whatever reason, you’re interested in this, I’ve put together a super simple Android app that answers a lot of questions about the process, and then allows you to request your own unlock. Check it out on XDA Labs. The app itself is free, so there’s no investment for investigation besides your time. You can proceed if you are still comfortable.
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