Hey guys, is it even legal for Huawei to sell its devices in EU with out an option for consumer to unlock bootloader?
"The Free Software Foundation Europe argues that it is legal to root or flash any device. According to the European Directive 1999/44/EC, replacing the original operating system with another does not void the statutory warranty that covers the hardware of the device for two years unless the seller can prove that the modification caused the defect"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooting_(Android)
However just because it is legal to unlock (there are other sources of the above, that was just the easiest to link too) without invalidating your warranty doesn't mean (IMHO) phone manufacturers/carriers(especially if you have a phone under contract) legally have to make it easy for you if they choose not too.
It's a subtle distinction
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"Bootloader Unlock Allowed" = YES for ALL = root = roms = mods
Sorry...i can´t translate my post of HtcMania, but you can see there. If any can translate it for here , thanks:
>>> http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=396318
IMPORTANT PRELIMINARY EXPLANATIONS:
It is necessary to read and understand everything that is and why all these claims and concepts of the process
SONY (Android models) has two limitations in terminal operator: 1) Lock SimLoc k. - It's what makes that you can not insert another operator's SIM card. 2) Lock FastBoot. - is compared to other terminals of other brands , a kind of mode Download, Boot, ... , From which you can install Roms, Mods, root.
It really is quite a bit more complex but roughly explained you will understand it all better. To check the status of these two blocks there is a hidden menu on SONY. Open the terminal dialer and dialing * # * # 7378423 # * # * (numbers correspond to the positions of the word SERVICE) will see a menu: Entering Service Info> SIM Lock is blocked we'll see if it puts us SimLock a [x] in Network Configuration Entering see if we blocked as we will Rooting Fastboot Status: Bootloader Unlock Allowed = NO When you buy a terminal open, on the hidden states: SIMLOCK = NOT ALLOW = Yes Bootloader Unlock This means that can be used with any operator and that "you can open the bootloader." It says it is open or not, but you can and as you can, it goes to the Sony website, is requested to open the bootloader code as there is no restriction to boot FastBoot way we can. When removed the state operator is as follows: SIMLOCK = YES = NO ALLOW Bootloader Unlock means that we can only use it with the operator provided it to us. And much to go to Sony to get the code to open the Bootloader, then we can not get him because Fastboot mode (to activate the bootloader) is NOT ALLOWED. If an operator does not have tenure, MUST GIVE FULL unlock code , which is the general rule that facilitate the operators. And we can use the handset with other companies, but we can not rootearlo as a free terminal because this requires opening the bootloader and it is necessary to boot into FastBoot, which STILL OPERATOR castrated. And to allow that there is a code like SimLock release that opens put it .... both the SimLock and "Bootloader Unlock ALLOW" to get to YES. With that we have the terminal in the same conditions as the free. Then it is up to each user, which ALLOWS SONY, open the bootloader to install root or cooked roms. For these reasons, the claim began, as traders know that TOTAL unlock code, and Sony refused to facilitate it does not know whether we stay or not and therefore whether or not we entitled to it.
GOT THE ACHIEVEMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN CLAIMED AND POLICY CHANGE GET SONY WORLDWIDE HOWEVER COULD TURN OUR OPERATOR TERMINAL TERMINAL IN A COMPLETELY FREE. MOST IMPACTED THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR THESE TERMINALS AND OF COURSE MORE WORLDWIDE SALES FOR SONY. ALL HAPPY.
Since the problem was that Sony really did not know whether or not we were entitled to FULLY unlock, has reached an agreement. If after having released the terminal through the Simlock (WHICH IS FREE AND CONFIRMS but is really 50%) you get in touch with the customer service of Sony Xperia in questions.es @ support.sonymobile.com e-mail indicating your IMEI and unlock code SimLock confirming that if correct, you know what free whatever the case and therefore will provide the unlock code Fastboot's FULL. WITH ALL THAT WE LEFT THE TERMINAL WAS PURCHASED AS IF FREE. After that, depending on whether a XperiaU, a XperiaS, Xperia P, you should follow the procedures published in the forums to open the Bootloader from the SONY website like any other user with the handset purchased FREE and be able to ROOT or any mod / Rom. STEPS: As has become clear throughout the process, summarize to make it even clearer: 1) We release the ends SimLock l If you stay you should call your carrier for you right to give it you for FREE. Depending on the operator usually take 4 to 15 days. If you can stay paying third release ( http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=373931 ) 2) After the end liberate the Simlock l have for So the code release confirming that it is released, send an email to Sony more or less like this to seek the release of FastBoot :
Recipient : questions.es @ support.sonymobile.com
Subject : Request release of Xperia FastBoot S - IMEI: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Body : Good 's morning / afternoon . I have a XperiaS (or whatever) which has no permanence for any operator I have the unlock code Simlock that the operator has given me. therefore call FastBoot unlocking that would change the "Rooting Status: Bootloader Unlock Allowed" to YES to have the same privileges as a free terminal and power later if you wish to apply in your opening web Bootloader and apply root, which is impossible now for me the above limitation obviously I should not have and not having a permanent terminal. This facilitated the data from my terminal: IMEI: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (the leaving dialing * # 06 * in the terminal dialer) SimUnlock Code: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (which you have provided to free simlock and confirm that the terminal is released) Model: XPeriaS Email: [email protected] Tel: 666111222 No another individual, received a warm greeting and await your response. Thank you. Fulanito
3 ) SONY we can respond with several cases:
* Let us say that the code is incorrect. If you gave it to the operator, the operator calls you send it by email and not forward to SONY. This confirms that you provided the operator has legally. If you refuse, you have to justify it with the invoice showing that has no permanence.
* You tell us directly that the request is in progress. A WAIT. If you want you can call 902882250 should take time to answer to see how the case, but WE DO NOT HEAVY. * Let us know a date of collection to do it. THIS IS GOOD. Call or reply to see what day we collect the terminal. We are given the deadline 15 days to return it to us. CALM ... do it to avoid catching fingers over time. In 1 week you will surely back home FREE AND FULLY UNLOCKED. .......... WE HAVE THE TERMINAL AS IF PURCHASED WAS FREE. Search the forums on your terminal as rootearlo, apply mods, roms, etc. and enjoy!. Check from the menu that is well hidden and it's free: WARRANTY: Unlocking and simlock Fastboot LOSE NO WARRANTY IMPLIED. CONFIRMED WITH SONY. In doing IDENTICAL TO A TERMINAL IS PURCHASED FREE, with Simlock and Fastboot open. Also then if you open the Bootloader from the Sony website as do those with the terminal to get FREE ORIGIN root, NOR is lost warranty. Under the conditions of SONY do not say yes or no. Simply "RESERVE" the right to give or not depending on the problem. That is ..... if you opened it and got involved only root to do full backups, using specific apps that require root but do not involve misuse of the terminal, Sony does not have to tell you goodbye warranty. And even less if the issue where the send is a recognized problem and common (as the problem of yellow on the screens of the first production runs, going from 41 ° the terminal due to gas produced by the glue that stuck the pantalals ). Another thing is you do root, do overclock and burn the mic and send it to the SAT. Obviously not a terminal problem and they know it is not a common known fault. And if you look above that and you've unlocked the bootloader ... well, goodbye warranty. Say you open the bootloader does not mean losing the warranty but Sony after it and send the SAT if the terminal will look with some little finer the problem that if you had not opened never know what could not be anything to manipulate and therefore insurance cover you.
Well, in short, ElHechicero and lots of HTCMania users claimed to Movistar to give us a total unlock code, not only to unlock SIM but also to be able to unlock the bootloader. You just need to unlok your SIM via your telephony provider and then contact with SONY.
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Good Morning guys,
I plan to unlock my bootloader in the next few days. But I don't want to type in my real imei number, because if I have to send the phone in they might check and regret warranty.
So: Is ist possible to type in bull**** in the form or is the unlock code generated via the imei and I risk hard bricking the phone? And is there a counter which says that it was once unlocked if it is locked atm?
Thanks In advance
No this will not work!
The unlock Code will be generated specially for your IMEI, so a Unlock Code for a bull**** IMEI will not work.
Also I know (mostly from other manufacturers) that the "void warranty" is mostly because the manufacturer does not want to repair phones which are bricked for free.
If you have a hardware-defect, the manufacturer will repair your phone. The only situation I know where a manufacturer did not repair a phone, was because the phone was overheated and defective, because someone overvolted the phone via modified kernel.
So ... normally it will not "really" void your warranty.
simply relock your bootloader and flash a stock rom before sending it in
Some people say that relocking bootloader can be recognised by LG service:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=67392251
What is your experience with repairing phone after relocking bootloader? Your answers can help to people to take a decision about unlocking bootloader. Thanks.
I'm also interested in the subject.
It depends on what is broken due to your fault or not. See http://www.howtogeek.com/240417/does-rooting-or-unlocking-void-your-android-phones-warranty/
TLDR: If you break your phone du to overclocking, which was achieved with unlocking your device && rooting it, you're out of luck. If you get random reboots, which is a software thing it could get tricky and the warrenty may not be there for you then.
But for everything else hardware related it's not the roms fault. The company will fix it anyway. I sent devices in from HTC, LG and Samsung which were all rooted and unlocked. No problems so far. I live in Germany, just sayin
saschb2b said:
It depends on what is broken due to your fault or not. See http://www.howtogeek.com/240417/does-rooting-or-unlocking-void-your-android-phones-warranty/
TLDR: If you break your phone du to overclocking, which was achieved with unlocking your device && rooting it, you're out of luck. If you get random reboots, which is a software thing it could get tricky and the warrenty may not be there for you then.
But for everything else hardware related it's not the roms fault. The company will fix it anyway. I sent devices in from HTC, LG and Samsung which were all rooted and unlocked. No problems so far. I live in Germany, just sayin
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When i went with my previous phone (samsung S5+) in a Samsung Repairs they told me warranty is not void as long as phone is not rooted or bootloader unlocked (knox 0x1). Now if the motherboard is faulty and is to be replaced then they won't find out about root and knox fuse but if they replace other components and boot the phone and find the knox fuse 0x1... warranty is void. That is my understanding.
In the case of LG G5 one has to unlock the bootloader via LG de site and then that device will show up in their "unlocked devices" list with some sort of identification (of the device and user). If one sends his/her G5 to service it would be interesting to find out if LG actualy checks to see if that device has been unlocked or not.
I live in Romania and in my experience when warranty is involved the people at the repair centers do search if phone are rooted and bootloader unlocked and cancel warranty.
Getting unlock.bin doesn't mean that you used it.
vader20 said:
When i went with my previous phone (samsung S5+) in a Samsung Repairs they told me warranty is not void as long as phone is not rooted or bootloader unlocked (knox 0x1). Now if the motherboard is faulty and is to be replaced then they won't find out about root and knox fuse but if they replace other components and boot the phone and find the knox fuse 0x1... warranty is void. That is my understanding.
In the case of LG G5 one has to unlock the bootloader via LG de site and then that device will show up in their "unlocked devices" list with some sort of identification (of the device and user). If one sends his/her G5 to service it would be interesting to find out if LG actualy checks to see if that device has been unlocked or not.
I live in Romania and in my experience when warranty is involved the people at the repair centers do search if phone are rooted and bootloader unlocked and cancel warranty.
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Knox is a samsung thing just to be clear http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/
I have been looking through the rom threads and i wanna try lineageos for my device. My question is if i restore everything to stock like rom and recovery and relock bootloader, will i regain warranty ?
MayB4ck said:
I have been looking through the rom threads and i wanna try lineageos for my device. My question is if i restore everything to stock like rom and recovery and relock bootloader, will i regain warranty ?
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Depending where you are, unlocked bootloader = warranty void. In some EU countries, you can unlock/mod software as you wish, in others countries, as soon as you unlock your bootloader your warranty isn't valid anymore. Check your local rules.
Re-locking bootloader means nothing - according to forums, it will report "relocked" status instead of "locked" so if you have to send your device to warranty service, and they decide to check if it was unlocked, you're out - they'll just probably dismiss it...
If you're device is new, wait for a bit more, check if everything is functioning as it should, and then give it a go. I've waited nearly 3 months for mine to show any signs of problems/issues, and in the end moved it to Lineage, with out any problems.
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Depending where you are, unlocked bootloader = warranty void. In some EU countries, you can unlock/mod software as you wish, in others countries, as soon as you unlock your bootloader your warranty isn't valid anymore. Check your local rules.
Re-locking bootloader means nothing - according to forums, it will report "relocked" status instead of "locked" so if you have to send your device to warranty service, and they decide to check if it was unlocked, you're out - they'll just probably dismiss it...
If you're device is new, wait for a bit more, check if everything is functioning as it should, and then give it a go. I've waited nearly 3 months for mine to show any signs of problems/issues, and in the end moved it to Lineage, with out any problems.
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I had my device since July, no problems with mine. BTW where can i check the rules in my country's rules? I live in Macedonia.
MayB4ck said:
I had my device since July, no problems with mine. BTW where can i check the rules in my country's rules? I live in Macedonia.
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Hello neighbour, greetings from Serbia
I don't have info for MK, but I can give you info for Serbia, because I think that rules are same/similar for us.
According to Huawei/Honor representatives I've spoke to - as soon as you unlock your bootloader, your warranty is probably void, he wasn't 100% sure. Better check with Huawei/Honor representatives for MK, Serbian ones told me that if I unlock my bootloader, and device fails, it isn't an 'automatic' void under certain conditions, so I can try spending much time explaining and proving that it isn't my and/or custom firmware's fault for device malfunction, and I'll probably be rejected for warranty repair, if error isn't from 'already known and possible' list.
That's probably a rule for all eastern European countries, if your local buyer protection law isn't bit different (and I'm pretty sure it's similar to ours, but check). We do have mandatory 2y warranty by law, but ways manufacturer/seller can and will use to avoid it, wow.
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Hello neighbour, greetings from Serbia
I don't have info for MK, but I can give you info for Serbia, because I think that rules are same/similar for us.
According to Huawei/Honor representatives I've spoke to - as soon as you unlock your bootloader, your warranty is probably void, he wasn't 100% sure. Better check with Huawei/Honor representatives for MK, Serbian ones told me that if I unlock my bootloader, and device fails, it isn't an 'automatic' void under certain conditions, so I can try spending much time explaining and proving that it isn't my and/or custom firmware's fault for device malfunction, and I'll probably be rejected for warranty repair, if error isn't from 'already known and possible' list.
That's probably a rule for all eastern European countries, if your local buyer protection law isn't bit different (and I'm pretty sure it's similar to ours, but check). We do have mandatory 2y warranty by law, but ways manufacturer/seller can and will use to avoid it, wow.
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Thank you for your detailed answer to my question, I have decided to go ahead and unlock my bootloader, the procedure went fast I will install Lineage ASAP and report back to the forum if I encounter any problems.
Hope that u done it days ago
Hi there,
So I am a bit confused, but mostly I am curious... So I have a Sony Xperia Z4 Tablet (SGP771), I bought it off ebay pre-owned and for awhile I have been curious about rooting this device (mainly to block ads and remove unwanted and unremoveable content [ie Facebook] whilst still using stock android, but rooted). But for awhile now I have known that my device in the service\configuration menu has said 'Bootloader Unlock Allow: No' which has excluded me from what feels like everything available in terms of modifying the system to actually be rooted. The device is network locked to O2 UK, which I also assume the device is network restricted in relation to the bootloader also.
So I am confused because some threads have said about unlocking a locked bootloader, whilst most have clearly stated that their modification is not for my device (After having the bad bootloader message after all). So my question is, could someone tell me what actually is available (If anything at all) For me to root this device?
What I have learnt so far is that if I want to change the 'Bootloader Unlock Allowed: No' I would have to switch the motherboard with another one (Which is clearly an extremely expensive process and not something I would want to do). Other than that I would have to wait for an exploit, But I am not sure if there is one available (Yet?) which brings me to my earlier question. Otherwise I would have to continue to use the unrooted stock android, which I dont really have any issue with because I would definitely still root it and use stock if that was available to me (Blasted bootloader rejection).
I would really apprechiate a response on this and thanks for reading XD
I would contact o2 and see if they can help.
Maybe SONY (doubt they will do it) or a SONY repair center (third party).
Replacing the bootloader should be doable in software.
No solution to Xperia Z4 Tablet Locked Bootloader
Hello, I got the same model locked to O2 UK as well and as far as I know there's still no solution to that problem, ie changing the rooting status to YES or rooting the device on a locked bootloader like we all rooted previous Xperia devices. O2 requested Sony to lock the bootloader on purpose. There are many reasons for this. One of them is, O2 doesn't want anyone to change the IMEI of their device if it gets blacklisted, for example. Of course Sony (Service Centre) can unlock it but I doubt we find a Sony member of staff who will risk losing their job for doing so. However, there's a way of uninstalling unwanted apps (bloatware) without root, but this method uninstalls the bloatware for the current user only. So basically if you have several user accounts, you'll have to uninstall those apps as many times, and also keep in mind that the operation is not reversible. So the only way to restore those apps is by factory-resetting the tablet which leads to wiping all the user-data. That method is done via a PC and you need to install, I think, Android SDK as well as Sony drivers. The full guide can be found here
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Again, this is not reversible unless you factory-reset the tablet.
If I ever find a solution, or a renegade Sony guy lol, I'll let you know.