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All right, at this point, I think the camera is really good after the updates. I am not an expert on pictures though so lets get a community review on it.
Please, take pictures with your Camera please and post them here. Get outside and inside pics, good light and especially low light pics.
Please include a description of the non-obvious environmental variables of the pictures so we have context of the results, especially for those who haven't bought one yet. I know we would all have loved to see this thread before we bought the phone so please contribute your efforts.
Rules for posting:
1. Try to take good pics. If your pics look nowhere near as good as the pics already posted, then ask for help before posting so you can represent the camera correctly.
2. I took my pics in manual mode. In Low Light, they came out way better than in Auto mode. Play around and see what works best for you.
3. Make sure your phone is updated and make sure the camera app is fully updated as well. We know pictures werent great pre-updates, but now that the updates have come out, I personally think they look great.
Lets fix the bad rep this camera has gotten as I think it was prematurely judged. Or maybe I just need to go play with other cameras, as what I see as really good is really nowhere near good enough. Lets figure out which is the truth
Here are two photos I took. One is with all my lights on and the other is with all lights out, at night with only my TV on. I was very impressed as I feel it debunks all the criticism of the Camera's low light performance. I took both pics in manual mode
Ignore those photos and see these. XDA limits resolution. These stored in my Google photos are full res
One observation: I am assuming the one on the right is with lights out. It appears that it has a much better white balance result than the other one. It will be interesting to see what others post.
As few posts as are showing up on this forum, it seems the phone is not getting out there very much.
ewingr said:
One observation: I am assuming the one on the right is with lights out. It appears that it has a much better white balance result than the other one. It will be interesting to see what others post.
As few posts as are showing up on this forum, it seems the phone is not getting out there very much.
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You are correct the one on the right is with the lights out. One possible reason for the hue difference is likely that my lights give off a yellow hue and my walls are also slightly yellow. Then my TV has a Full array LED backliggt which will give off pure white light. I mention this as both pics were taken with the same settings. Just a theory though, as I personally think the one on the right looks a little better and that is the only way I can explain it. Your guess is as good as mine though.
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You are correct the one on the right is with the lights out. One possible reason for the hue difference is likely that my lights give off a yellow hue and my walls are also slightly yellow. Then my TV has a Full array LED backliggt which will give off pure white light. I mention this as both pics were taken with the same settings. Just a theory though, as I personally think the one on the right looks a little better and that is the only way I can explain it. Your guess is as good as mine though.
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I am sure that the warmer light from the lights, and yellow on the wall, is a definite contributor. The only way to correct colors in these situations is to have a custom white balance where you can use something white to have it calibrate to. No phone does that, that I'm aware of.
Here are some photos I took. XDA restricts file size so here is my Google Photos Album
https://goo.gl/photos/pv4NR2iReRkRL8Pu9
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Here are some photos I took. XDA restricts file size so here is my Google Photos Album
https://goo.gl/photos/pv4NR2iReRkRL8Pu9
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That's the really good job.
Many thanks for this uploads.
Can someone give some more? I'm going to buy this phone next week do I do want know if camera is also perfect. I had Zenfone 2 it was awesome at it's time, now I can't wait to buy this but camera is important to me and I wish to real compare to s7 and g5.
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Hour did you get those night interior pictures?
Was phone docked at stative or column? Was it auto night mode or your manual settings? It's ready good.
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Hour did you get those night interior pictures?
Was phone docked at stative or column? Was it auto night mode or your manual settings? It's ready good.
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I held it in my hands and just held it still as it snapped the pic. It was in Manual Mode. Hold it still as when it detects low light, it extends the exposure time and then after the photo is taken, it will be a lot brighter than you anticipated. Alternatively, while in manual, you can hold the screen for a second the drag right and it will increase the exposure time. During the day it takes an instant photo and the exposure time is nonexistent, but to get great low light shots, it is necessary to increase the exposure time. The photos always come out better on my phone than the scene looked at night in real life. Let me know if that is at all confusing and I will try to explain better.
Ok I get it. Thanks. That convinced me to buy this device. Camera is ok enough to do it.
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Ok I get it. Thanks. That convinced me to buy this device. Camera is ok enough to do it.
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In my opinion, the camera is more than okay enough. There are so many camera modes, it is ridiculous. And the Camera stabilization is incredible when taking video is incredible. Just don't take low light photos in Auto Mode as it does nothing to correct it, but ironically in manual mode, the camera does automatically correct low light (unless you manually adjust the exposure time, then that setting will take pecedent).
I think the reviews that said low light photos were bad were either taken in auto mode or the updates fixed a whole lot before I got my phone. Either way, low light now is excellent. I have a feeling that they just didn't fully teat the camera as one review even stipulated that they didn't change any if the modes.
Does the camera support a 60fps recording? How its slow motion? Looks smooth or laggy?
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Does the camera support a 60fps recording? How its slow motion? Looks smooth or laggy?
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Full HD recording has 60fps. I don't think the 4K does as it doesn't say it. And I haven't used the slow no yet
@Blues-n-Blazin or someone any update about this slow motion or shots experience?
Can someone give some updates, I thing I gonna buy it tomorrow, but need some kite reference.
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@Blues-n-Blazin or someone any update about this slow motion or shots experience?
Can someone give some updates, I thing I gonna buy it tomorrow, but need some kite reference.
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Just took a slowmo of my TV while watching the walking dead, and it was pretty nice. Looks like what I hoped it would. As smooth as I would expect slow motion to be. OIS works really well as the picture was perfectly stabilized through the entire footage. I think OIS disables when I zoom in though because when I did, my phone was a little shaky. That is just a testament to how good it works when it is enabled though. I haven't tested it with real life slow motion yet but if it does really good recording motion of a TV show, the I imagine real life will be just as nice, if not better.
Just did another of me moving my hand and fingers really fast for 30 seconds and it was really smooth. I am impressed. It looks like a slow motion replay like you see in sports. I assure you, you will be very happy. I didn't even expect it to be that good.
I will try some hockey off the tv too
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I will try some hockey off the tv too
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Hockey looked really good too. It slowed the game down to a crawl and the motion was very smooth. I could not imagine it being any better
Slow motion is awesome thanks to 60hz camera recording, the rest is also fine including night mode
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Hi everyone,
I recently acquired P20 Lite thru my carrier. While i think photo quality is pretty decent despite nof having Leica lens of its older brothers, colour saturation is too exaggerated in my opinion. Sharpness and dynamic range are pretty good for a mid-range phone but colours are too saturated. Any way to change that setting on camera app before taking pics (rather than post-processing)? Do u recommend any other other camera app? I've tried Open Camera and results are very similar and a Gcam app I found on a Spanish website that doesn't require root, HDR+ doesn't work (so pretty much useless). Another thing I realized is that the phone doesn't have optical image stabilization but doesn't accept it digitally either (option is not even present on Open Camera or Gcam app I mentioned). Or does it have digital stabil?
All replies much appreciated.
Yeah um no one...?
Oh come off it, of all the P20 Lite users on this forum, NO ONE has noticed colour saturation with camera??
So yeah, my wife got a p20 lite couple of weeks ago, and we noticed some oversaturated colors too while taking pictures of some of her colorations. But I didn't found a solution or workaround yet. I tried some other camera apps, which allow to choose the scene mode manually, but it doesn't make a real difference. So yes, I noticed the problem too, but I can't provide a solution.
And yes, it is not just imagination, my Honor 6x in comparison does a better job under the same conditions. And it doesn't depend on the display either, sending one of the pictures from my Honor 6x to the p20 lite, and they look more realistic on the p20 lite display then the one taken with the camera of the p20 lite itself.
Thanx for replying, yeah it's a pity that a capable camera with good sharpness and dynamic range has such off white balancing. And as u say, toggling pic parameters (like u can do on FV-5 Camera app) like contrast and saturation seems to have no effect, camera is hardcoded that way (i can't explain how or why). Seems like the only solution would be getting root access and editing camera line in internal Build Prop but frankly i just can't be arsed (I got enough of that with Xiaomi) LOL
Hope someone can share some light on this coz even thou phone is great, i feel i should've gone for the P20.
Dont't mix things up, I think, the white balance is quite good. You can fiddle with that in pro mode, but I never have the need to do so, white is white as it should be. But that's not color saturation, and I didn't find a way to fiddle with saturation.
But I tried on thing: raw mode. Only possible in pro mode, and the raw picture is placed on internal storage in a special directory, in addition to the regular jpg, which is also stored in the same place as always (for me, on sd card). And I think, the colors in the raw image are more realistic. Maybe just imagination, give it a try, I would like to hear your opinion on that. Thankfully, the internal picture viewer can show them, but they are a little bit heavy (32MB each).
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Dont't mix things up, I think, the white balance is quite good. You can fiddle with that in pro mode, but I never have the need to do so, white is white as it should be. But that's not color saturation, and I didn't find a way to fiddle with saturation.
But I tried on thing: raw mode. Only possible in pro mode, and the raw picture is placed on internal storage in a special directory, in addition to the regular jpg, which is also stored in the same place as always (for me, on sd card). And I think, the colors in the raw image are more realistic. Maybe just imagination, give it a try, I would like to hear your opinion on that. Thankfully, the internal picture viewer can show them, but they are a little bit heavy (32MB each).
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Thanks for the info HeiWo, you are right about white balance (a little 'cold' in my opinion) not to be mistaken with colour saturation in which this camera is a little, shall we say, 'strong'. Thank you for the raw pic info, I will try it for the sake of testing as 32mb file size sounds ridiculous for storing a gallery of those dimensions, lol. What i don't get is how/why can camera be hardcoded on firmware that u can't even fiddle with saturation/contrast/sharpness like on FV-5 Camera app where toggling these settings makes no difference whatsoever... (?!)
Btw, any link to a clear and concise thread on how to root P20 Lite?
Cheers!
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Dont't mix things up, I think, the white balance is quite good. You can fiddle with that in pro mode, but I never have the need to do so, white is white as it should be. But that's not color saturation, and I didn't find a way to fiddle with saturation.
But I tried on thing: raw mode. Only possible in pro mode, and the raw picture is placed on internal storage in a special directory, in addition to the regular jpg, which is also stored in the same place as always (for me, on sd card). And I think, the colors in the raw image are more realistic. Maybe just imagination, give it a try, I would like to hear your opinion on that. Thankfully, the internal picture viewer can show them, but they are a little bit heavy (32MB each).
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Hi again HeiWo,
Sorry friend, tried shooting in raw and I saw no difference in colour saturation from shooting in jpeg. I still think this camera would be so much better if we could somehow toggle colour saturation. If anyone knows a camera app that allows it, please post it here! I opened a thread regarding One-Click Root app that has our phone on the compatibility list but I don't trust something going awry.
A small update and a small heads up on the colours of our P20 Lite (which no one on this sub-forum seems to give a s**t about) lol
I recently took some day pics and transferred them to 10.1" tablet. On my tablet's screen, photos have much more natural colours (of everything you capture than when those pics are viewed on phone, so basically it's the phone's lcd display that's a liittle off (toggling between warm and cold colours make no difference, objects are still captured with unreal colours but view ok when u send them to tablet or tv. Don't know if anyone has noticed or tried it, but anyway there's my 2 cents.
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The screen, not the camera
I think you have already figured this out for yourself, but the camera in P20 lite is not the problem. It's the cooor rendition of the screen that's at fault here, namely the terrible shift and oversaturation of the reds. I'm not sure why they went this way -whether it's a poor choice of the lcd manufacturer or an attempt to mimic the even more horrid colours of super amoled screens, but the reds on this phone look so wrong...
Being a photographer, it physically hurts me every time I look at my phone's screen. There's no getting used to it...
Why have I not seen it at the store?!
Have a good one!
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I think you have already figured this out for yourself, but the camera in P20 lite is not the problem. It's the cooor rendition of the screen that's at fault here, namely the terrible shift and oversaturation of the reds. I'm not sure why they went this way -whether it's a poor choice of the lcd manufacturer or an attempt to mimic the even more horrid colours of super amoled screens, but the reds on this phone look so wrong...
Being a photographer, it physically hurts me every time I look at my phone's screen. There's no getting used to it...
Why have I not seen it at the store?!
Have a good one!
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I notice the same with the saturation of the reds. I have used several Huawei and in all of them the colors are precise and bright. It's a shame that in this P20 lite the red tones are so saturated and the blues so little.
Hi again guys, thanx for replying. I'm glad other people have noticed the horrid colour calibration on both screen and camera because i have still sent pics taken with phine to tablet and tv and they look the same. We need a fix for colour calibration! What i can't understand for the life of me is how on earth camera settings can be hard-coded and impossible to tweak with third - party cam apps (?!?)
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hello. I'm from Italy and I've noticed this problem of colour... the gree is terrible in some pics!
any solution?
P20 Lite Camera is Crap!
Every photo saturates colours, reds are terrible, meaning photos of people look garbage. Not buying another Huawei phone if they can't get the basics right.
WHERE'S THE FIX FROM HUAWEI ?????
I have P20, not lure, not Pro. The screen is calibrated in my phone, almost like my pc.
The camera oversatured with orange. So I take raw files, edit with Lightroom and decrease 15-35 the saturation of reds and Orange. Later I adjust the rest parameters and the picture is amazing realistic.
The only problem is that you need 2 weeks to learn how to use Lightroom.
A easier solution is just take the regular jpg and edit then decreasing a little saturation. Not the same but you can get by.
Think there needs to be a thread for photos taken on the P30 Pro, given how the key feature of this phone is the camera(s).
I've also created a Google Photos gallery that people can share photos on (and video). It's non-commercial, and anyone that posts a photo obviously retains their own copyright.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/crLDcUSr9mxgJCSV8
So far the gallery has some examples of the various zoom levels (and wide angle), low-light and some very impressive shots of the sun. I am really loving the flexibility of the camera in just about all conditions.
I can't wait to see photos from others.
camera only good at zoom is a camera half good, in a perfect world it would do miracles with video aswell if it used Snapdragon 855
Any chance someone can put some super-slow-mo videos up please?
Id like to see someone post a sample too.
I saw a video on YouTube and slowMo looked absolutely horrible. Also not as slow as the phone it was compared to. Ive watched so many videos on the p30 that I doubt I could find the video again.
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Id like to see someone post a sample too.
I saw a video on YouTube and slowMo looked absolutely horrible. Also not as slow as the phone it was compared to. Ive watched so many videos on the p30 that I doubt I could find the video again.
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This 960fps slow motion is fame with Huawei
Extremely bad quality besides s10 plus
I saw the video too
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I dont like the over sharpness at night with night mode
Pixel xl 3 night sight is way better in term of normal details and Colours
Huawei needs to work hard to fix image processing with night mode and faces details
Sorry, but these photos do nothing for me in terms of showing what the phone is capable of. Many (most?) of the photos are shaky or way too soft even at ISO50. I do like how the colors look tho, especially in the night photos.
Here's a new video that was posted comparing the slow Mo
https://youtu.be/qffBzSC7DmY
Hopefully the p30 improves!
Here's a few samples of mine, i had the P30 Pro since launch day and it's a camera champ. But i don't recommend you go beyond the 5x optical focal length or it won't be pretty. The noise reduction in jpeg's is a bit too strong for my taste, i hope Huawei tones it down. However the raw files are very nice to work with.
1. Flower is shot in raw at iso 50 indoors.
2. Church shot using 16mm ultrawide angle.
3, 5x at the church clock, shot raw.
4. 16mm indoors at chuch.
5. Building shot at 5x in raw.
6. Hotel interior at 16mm ultrawide angle, shot in jpeg.
7. Test of ToF sensor and fake bokeh at water fountain.
8. 5x at outdoor hotel pool 50 meters above ground. Shot from below.
/ Magnus
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Here's a new video that was posted comparing the slow Mo
https://youtu.be/qffBzSC7DmY
Hopefully the p30 improves!
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Thanks for sharing. That is a shame, but still better than the shockingly bad P20 Pro that wasn't actually 960fps...
I feel this will be a great camera replacement phone for my Mate 20 Pro of course until the Mate 30 Pro comes out... I wonder if Huawei will completely ditch 3D face and notch... will be interesting. The Mate 20 Pro is a great phone... brought me back from the Apple Darkside. I can't see Apple being able to keep up with Samsung and Huawei (even Xiaomi for that matter) in the top camera phone space, anymore.... IMO. They have just lost so much ground to make it all up with their incremental updates.... I think android has brought me back with better technology, we'll see if it keeps me.
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First photo taken in our condominium courtyard.
Sorry to be the bad guy, but there are no real details. It suffers from the well known Huawei processing. This phone is good for the Instagram generation, but it takes bad photos. Not true to life.
Took delivery of mine today. Not impressed at all - the usual overprocessed, smeary Huawei ****e that's probably great for those who like to mess about with DNG and Lightroom but as an auto shooter is behind the pack for normal photos VS pretty much all the other flagships.
Hopefully the promised software update with camera improvements will reach my device soon and blow me away. Already kind of pissed that my dual SIM Amazon device is actually single SIM but to be behind on a supposedly critical update already is not helping my feelings towards this phone.
Any video samples? For me video is more important than photos and it seems the Kirin CPU can not handle video with high enough bitrate, I see occasional stutter too. One reviewer mentioned that 4K video did appear like it was actually 1440p upscaled. One other review did check video bitrate and framerate and both did appear low (I think it was 27Mbps and 28fps for a 4K video).
I wonder if these things could be tweaked by modifying camera app, to try increase bitrate.
EDIT: The video review showing P30 Pro video bitrate, framerate and panning stutter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LaeCzEMEgw
So many reviews out there seem to be sponsored, looking for real-life video examples.
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Took delivery of mine today. Not impressed at all - the usual overprocessed, smeary Huawei ****e that's probably great for those who like to mess about with DNG and Lightroom but as an auto shooter is behind the pack for normal photos VS pretty much all the other flagships.
Hopefully the promised software update with camera improvements will reach my device soon and blow me away. Already kind of pissed that my dual SIM Amazon device is actually single SIM but to be behind on a supposedly critical update already is not helping my feelings towards this phone.
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I have the opposite experience. Samples found online wasn't that impressive, but I quite like how the photos I take (in daylight so far) look., even when zoomed in. It's definitely not as sharp as say, Pixel 3XL, but very good.
I agree. The dog looks great. I'm also using a Galaxy S10+ and though I love the phone, you can barely take a pic of an animal because it smudges and smooths everything so badly. My P30 will be here soon and I'm encouraged by those pics.
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I agree. The dog looks great. I'm also using a Galaxy S10+ and though I love the phone, you can barely take a pic of an animal because it smudges and smooths everything so badly. My P30 will be here soon and I'm encouraged by those pics.
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My advice is to not get too excited. The examples given are in searing sunlight and even then there's some smearing and oversharpening. In the case of the dog, it's just sat still - not a challenging scenario for any phone.
Apparently some people in the UK have had the new update so I'm hoping to get it over the weekend.
I currently also have an S9 and an iPhone XR and the photos from both of those devices are better so far (with the exception of low light shots).
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My advice is to not get too excited. The examples given are in searing sunlight and even then there's some smearing and oversharpening. In the case of the dog, it's just sat still - not a challenging scenario for any phone.
Apparently some people in the UK have had the new update so I'm hoping to get it over the weekend.
I currently also have an S9 and an iPhone XR and the photos from both of those devices are better so far (with the exception of low light shots).
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Maybe you should post side-by-side comparison shots so we can see how better those phones' cameras are.
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Maybe you should post side-by-side comparison shots so we can see how better those phones' cameras are.
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I want to get the 124 update before I do much more testing but here for example is a crop of some daffodils in the sunlight from the XR and P30 Pro (no AI mode).
I wish I had the .124 update before family day at the zoo but still impressed with these 10x zoom. My S10 could definitely not do this. Keep in mind that lion was through streaky zoo glass.
I've had the phone for a couple of days now ant the battery life is stellar but the camera is such a disappointment. Compared with the S22 Ultra it lets in less light and the pictures are overall darker. Same goes for low light pictures, the S22 Ultra is consistently brighter in all scenarios. It reminds me of the difference between my iPhone 13Pro and my S22 Ultra last year the former always capturing more light. To be honest I was expecting the opposite to be true with all the reviewers clamoring about the S23 Ultra's better low life performance and camera overall. I'm really not impressed so far.
Anyone else still in possession of both phones? What's your experience been like? Any suggestions? Did I miss something in the setting? So many questions
Clear cam data, try a hard reboot and clear system cache. Try in safe mode.
Carefully go through -all- the cam settings and options.
Return it if you don't like it for a cash refund.
Are you using the 12 MP default option instead of 200 MP? The 12 MP is said to give the best results on colors and contrast when shooting in low light.
"Binning pixels like this increases their effective size, allowing them to gather more light and detail. So the ISOCELL HP2 can bin every four pixels to effectively make them 1.2μm in size and produce 50-megapixel images, or bin 16 for even larger 2.4μm pixels and 12.5-megapixel images."
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Clear cam data, try a hard reboot and clear system cache. Try in safe mode.
Carefully go through -all- the cam settings and options.
Return it if you don't like it for a cash refund.
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Done. No dice. The camera still lets in less light on the S23U. In the settings I noticed that Camera assistant is missing. Must be a One UI 5.1 thing. Do you also have the S22 and S23 Ultra? Is that the reason for your suggestions? Are you seeing different results?
I'm upgrading from S22U (SnapDragon) to S23U and the few comparison shots I've taken I found that the S23U does capture slightly more detail, but there's not much difference at all. Remember this is the initial firmware for the phone though so the camera performance should hopefully receive some updates over time.
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I'm upgrading from S22U (SnapDragon) to S23U and the few comparison shots I've taken I found that the S23U does capture slightly more detail, but there's not much difference at all. Remember this is the initial firmware for the phone though so the camera performance should hopefully receive some updates over time.
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For sure. I totally get that. The thing is all the reviewers said that the s23u captured more light and that has yet to materialize for me. They were using the same software. To your point, the software should get better but I feel as though this is a hardware thing. But I'm no expert.
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Are you using the 12 MP default option instead of 200 MP? The 12 MP is said to give the best results on colors and contrast when shooting in low light.
"Binning pixels like this increases their effective size, allowing them to gather more light and detail. So the ISOCELL HP2 can bin every four pixels to effectively make them 1.2μm in size and produce 50-megapixel images, or bin 16 for even larger 2.4μm pixels and 12.5-megapixel images."
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If by 12MP you mean 3:4 absolutely. Didn't change anything.
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If by 12MP you mean 3:4 absolutely. Didn't change anything.
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I don't have my phone yet but there is a setting somewhere that you can choose between 200 MP, 50 MP or 12 MP in settings.
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Done. No dice. The camera still lets in less light on the S23U. In the settings I noticed that Camera assistant is missing. Must be a One UI 5.1 thing. Do you also have the S22 and S23 Ultra? Is that the reason for your suggestions? Are you seeing different results?
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Try shooting raws, at least 3 f/stops more exposure and WB correction. Downside is the post processing effort/time required.
The issue may simply be the firmware instruction set. Samsung is notorious for dialing things in after the release. I'm still happily running N10+'s on Pie and Q. I demand a dual drive capable device. I'm not pleased at all by the newer Android versions from Gookill either.
The dead zone between pixels on such a small sensor with such a huge pixel count is concerning as is the individual pixel microlense quality. Even 20mp is pushing it. Canon full frame sensors are maxed out at about 26mp.
Regardless of the camera learning it's capabilities, limitations and shooting effectively within those boundaries is what grabs keepers.
I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have it.
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Is it the camera or the display?
Check/compare images on a properly color calibrated monitor... yeah, it's a can of worms.
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I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
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I'll try tomorrow
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I'll try tomorrow
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In low light hold the phone as still as possible.
Use a nearby fixed object to brace it or yourself on when possible.
Using the spen as a remote shutter release will help too.
mrnovanova said:
I'll try tomorrow! This app is so wonky for me. I'll try tomorrow and post the pics.
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blackhawk said:
In low light hold the phone as still as possible.
Use a nearby fixed object to brace it or yourself on when possible.
Using the spen as a remote shutter release will help too.
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I got a Benro Tripod with a Phone attachment mounted on top. Gonna try that when I get the Ultra Monday doing some dark photos and using the pen as remote shutter release. Will also do same with the S22U before sending it back to Samsung.
PhilMorin said:
I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have it.
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Okay I think this worked. I'll let you guess which is which.
Edit: @blackhawk was spot on. They were both from the S22u. I have such a hard time with the app. I re-uploaded the correct pics. Left S23u Right S22u.
Paul_Deemer said:
I got a Benro Tripod with a Phone attachment mounted on top. Gonna try that when I get the Ultra Monday doing some dark photos and using the pen as remote shutter release. Will also do same with the S22U before sending it back to Samsung.
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I loathe tripods. Learned to improvise and shoot in low light with my Canon Pro cam 15 years ago.
I'll use anything at any height or angle I can reach as a brace; with practice you can land one of a kind keepers no tripod can grab.
Smart phones are poor shooting platforms; light weight so there's little stabilizing inertia and lousy handholds. Poor shutter release and controls. However they lend themselves to bracing well enough. In a case you don't have to worry much about what you brace it on...
The traditional elbows in, wide staggered foot stance, hold your breath works too. Shooting technique counts...
mrnovanova said:
Okay I think this worked. I'll let you guess which is which.
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Poor example; different shooting heights skews the results. The AF lock on point is also different so the bottle's print is out of focus in the one shot. Light metering and colors look near identical in both.
blackhawk said:
I loathe tripods. Learned to improvise and shoot in low light with my Canon Pro cam 15 years ago.
I'll use anything at any height or angle I can reach as a brace; with practice you can land one of a kind keepers no tripod can grab.
Smart phones are poor shooting platforms; light weight so there's little stabilizing inertia and lousy handholds. Poor shutter release and controls. However they lend themselves to bracing well enough. In a case you don't have to worry much about what you brace it on...
The traditional elbows in, wide staggered foot stance, hold your breath works too. Shooting technique counts...
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That might work for Photos but not very well for videos especially when you are zooming in 20x. Here's is an example where I have S22U on a tripod and zoom in on a waterfall from across the canyon and pan up and down. No way you gonna do it that smoothly holding it in your hands even braced. So for videos I love the tripod. It's the very lightest one they make and perfect for cell phones or light cameras. Change YouTube resolution to 1080p for best viewing.
Down on the Riverwalk South of Chicago River this morning taking some photos, check out the weird processing on the river!
Isn't Samsung AI wonderful? Try turning off Scene Optimizer.
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Actually, weird thing, my son was talking photos at the same time and has the same effect on a couple of his photos - he has an iPhone X - so maybe there was some kind of weird reflection going on
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Actually, weird thing, my son was talking photos at the same time and has the same effect on a couple of his photos - he has an iPhone X - so maybe there was some kind of weird reflection going on
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This phones are not like a mirrorless because they use AI, a good test could be as the user suggested before, turning off scene optimizer and take again the picture to see if the issue appear again.
citytrader said:
This phones are not like a mirrorless because they use AI, a good test could be as the user suggested before, turning off scene optimizer and take again the picture to see if the issue appear again.
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As I say, my son has the same weird reflections on photos taken on his iPhone so it's not the Samsung scene optimiser.
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As I say, my son has the same weird reflections on photos taken on his iPhone so it's not the Samsung scene optimiser.
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Lol, Samsung seems to be emulating iPhone and vice versa. So don't think iPhone isn't aggressively mucking with the cam images too during processing.
This is some sort of digital processing induced anomaly rather than something like birefringence I think. Shoot in raw mode to see how deep the trouble goes.
Turn off HDR.
Or maybe it is an optical phenomenon...
also try varying the shutter speed.
Scamsung needs to smarten up quickly, HDR is something from the horror movies.
I was taking a picture of a document today (AFTER the supposed camera update) and HDR transformed the white paper into a grey dull mush...
Harsh sharpening at times, overexposed day pics...I was hoping for all that to change with the new software, but FFS, what DID they change? Focus priority? Super steady video?
How about PICTURE QUALITY???
It looks like the moire effect to me.
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It looks like the moire effect to me.
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There are no interference lines to cause that in this case.
edit, lol apparently there is a huge source for the lines lurking in the background! As per a more recent OP post.
Interestingly I had the same effect happen on an indoor photo after resizing a picture in Microsoft Photo.
Just use GCam and you'll have less headache. As any other OEM, stock camera is garbage.
This was the next photo I took in the sequence, exhibiting some more of the weird effect in the water - maybe it is reflection??
I haven't had that specific type of result but I do get outputs that look more like paintings than photos. The 200mp results are great and usually with the details you would expect from such a large image, but I have been sorely disappointed with the outputs from all other modes (including the RAW supposedly-50mp stuff, where scene optimiser can't be used anyway) - any degree of telephoto use just gives way worse details than I would expect from a modern 10mp camera, with automatic processing (with optimisation off) just blurring swathes of pixels together to give a crude, painted look. Maybe I have been spoiled by my Canon R5's wonderful 45mp sensor!
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This was the next photo I took in the sequence, exhibiting some more of the weird effect in the water - maybe it is reflection??
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I think they are genuine reflections of the grid-pattern building in that particular size of wavelets - quite interesting in fact. Was that in the 200mp setting?
JohnTheFarm3r said:
Just use GCam and you'll have less headache. As any other OEM, stock camera is garbage.
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Apologies, but what is GCam?
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This was the next photo I took in the sequence, exhibiting some more of the weird effect in the water - maybe it is reflection??
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Interesting. Not_Rich may be correct, those maybe be a moire effect caused by the building's reflection on the water. Test without the reflection of the building on the water...
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I think they are genuine reflections of the grid-pattern building in that particular size of wavelets - quite interesting in fact. Was that in the 200mp setting?
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Just the standard 4:3 12mp
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Interesting. Not_Rich may be correct, those maybe be a moire effect caused by the building's reflection on the water. Test without the reflection of the building on the water...
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Yeah, I took quite a few photos along the Riverwalk and they were the only two to exhibit this, same with my son's photos. Really weird, but strangely beautiful effect, almost like a mosaic.
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Scamsung needs to smarten up quickly, HDR is something from the horror movies.
I was taking a picture of a document today (AFTER the supposed camera update) and HDR transformed the white paper into a grey dull mush...
Harsh sharpening at times, overexposed day pics...I was hoping for all that to change with the new software, but FFS, what DID they change? Focus priority? Super steady video?
How about PICTURE QUALITY???
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There also a halo effect around objects when shooting in low light with HDR enabled. This going to be fixed in next months camera Update. So they are aware of HDR issues just didn't fix those in this months update.