All right, at this point, I think the camera is really good after the updates. I am not an expert on pictures though so lets get a community review on it.
Please, take pictures with your Camera please and post them here. Get outside and inside pics, good light and especially low light pics.
Please include a description of the non-obvious environmental variables of the pictures so we have context of the results, especially for those who haven't bought one yet. I know we would all have loved to see this thread before we bought the phone so please contribute your efforts.
Rules for posting:
1. Try to take good pics. If your pics look nowhere near as good as the pics already posted, then ask for help before posting so you can represent the camera correctly.
2. I took my pics in manual mode. In Low Light, they came out way better than in Auto mode. Play around and see what works best for you.
3. Make sure your phone is updated and make sure the camera app is fully updated as well. We know pictures werent great pre-updates, but now that the updates have come out, I personally think they look great.
Lets fix the bad rep this camera has gotten as I think it was prematurely judged. Or maybe I just need to go play with other cameras, as what I see as really good is really nowhere near good enough. Lets figure out which is the truth
Here are two photos I took. One is with all my lights on and the other is with all lights out, at night with only my TV on. I was very impressed as I feel it debunks all the criticism of the Camera's low light performance. I took both pics in manual mode
Ignore those photos and see these. XDA limits resolution. These stored in my Google photos are full res
One observation: I am assuming the one on the right is with lights out. It appears that it has a much better white balance result than the other one. It will be interesting to see what others post.
As few posts as are showing up on this forum, it seems the phone is not getting out there very much.
ewingr said:
One observation: I am assuming the one on the right is with lights out. It appears that it has a much better white balance result than the other one. It will be interesting to see what others post.
As few posts as are showing up on this forum, it seems the phone is not getting out there very much.
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You are correct the one on the right is with the lights out. One possible reason for the hue difference is likely that my lights give off a yellow hue and my walls are also slightly yellow. Then my TV has a Full array LED backliggt which will give off pure white light. I mention this as both pics were taken with the same settings. Just a theory though, as I personally think the one on the right looks a little better and that is the only way I can explain it. Your guess is as good as mine though.
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You are correct the one on the right is with the lights out. One possible reason for the hue difference is likely that my lights give off a yellow hue and my walls are also slightly yellow. Then my TV has a Full array LED backliggt which will give off pure white light. I mention this as both pics were taken with the same settings. Just a theory though, as I personally think the one on the right looks a little better and that is the only way I can explain it. Your guess is as good as mine though.
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I am sure that the warmer light from the lights, and yellow on the wall, is a definite contributor. The only way to correct colors in these situations is to have a custom white balance where you can use something white to have it calibrate to. No phone does that, that I'm aware of.
Here are some photos I took. XDA restricts file size so here is my Google Photos Album
https://goo.gl/photos/pv4NR2iReRkRL8Pu9
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Here are some photos I took. XDA restricts file size so here is my Google Photos Album
https://goo.gl/photos/pv4NR2iReRkRL8Pu9
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That's the really good job.
Many thanks for this uploads.
Can someone give some more? I'm going to buy this phone next week do I do want know if camera is also perfect. I had Zenfone 2 it was awesome at it's time, now I can't wait to buy this but camera is important to me and I wish to real compare to s7 and g5.
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Hour did you get those night interior pictures?
Was phone docked at stative or column? Was it auto night mode or your manual settings? It's ready good.
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Hour did you get those night interior pictures?
Was phone docked at stative or column? Was it auto night mode or your manual settings? It's ready good.
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I held it in my hands and just held it still as it snapped the pic. It was in Manual Mode. Hold it still as when it detects low light, it extends the exposure time and then after the photo is taken, it will be a lot brighter than you anticipated. Alternatively, while in manual, you can hold the screen for a second the drag right and it will increase the exposure time. During the day it takes an instant photo and the exposure time is nonexistent, but to get great low light shots, it is necessary to increase the exposure time. The photos always come out better on my phone than the scene looked at night in real life. Let me know if that is at all confusing and I will try to explain better.
Ok I get it. Thanks. That convinced me to buy this device. Camera is ok enough to do it.
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Ok I get it. Thanks. That convinced me to buy this device. Camera is ok enough to do it.
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In my opinion, the camera is more than okay enough. There are so many camera modes, it is ridiculous. And the Camera stabilization is incredible when taking video is incredible. Just don't take low light photos in Auto Mode as it does nothing to correct it, but ironically in manual mode, the camera does automatically correct low light (unless you manually adjust the exposure time, then that setting will take pecedent).
I think the reviews that said low light photos were bad were either taken in auto mode or the updates fixed a whole lot before I got my phone. Either way, low light now is excellent. I have a feeling that they just didn't fully teat the camera as one review even stipulated that they didn't change any if the modes.
Does the camera support a 60fps recording? How its slow motion? Looks smooth or laggy?
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Does the camera support a 60fps recording? How its slow motion? Looks smooth or laggy?
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Full HD recording has 60fps. I don't think the 4K does as it doesn't say it. And I haven't used the slow no yet
@Blues-n-Blazin or someone any update about this slow motion or shots experience?
Can someone give some updates, I thing I gonna buy it tomorrow, but need some kite reference.
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@Blues-n-Blazin or someone any update about this slow motion or shots experience?
Can someone give some updates, I thing I gonna buy it tomorrow, but need some kite reference.
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Just took a slowmo of my TV while watching the walking dead, and it was pretty nice. Looks like what I hoped it would. As smooth as I would expect slow motion to be. OIS works really well as the picture was perfectly stabilized through the entire footage. I think OIS disables when I zoom in though because when I did, my phone was a little shaky. That is just a testament to how good it works when it is enabled though. I haven't tested it with real life slow motion yet but if it does really good recording motion of a TV show, the I imagine real life will be just as nice, if not better.
Just did another of me moving my hand and fingers really fast for 30 seconds and it was really smooth. I am impressed. It looks like a slow motion replay like you see in sports. I assure you, you will be very happy. I didn't even expect it to be that good.
I will try some hockey off the tv too
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I will try some hockey off the tv too
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Hockey looked really good too. It slowed the game down to a crawl and the motion was very smooth. I could not imagine it being any better
Slow motion is awesome thanks to 60hz camera recording, the rest is also fine including night mode
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hello guys, i need to know for sure if my camera is defect or not since i need to exchange it by monday.
the pics are attached.
i have taken the pics with and without night mode. the ones taken with night mode are much brighter and have much more severe flare.
is that normal?
Its all good.
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Totally normal.
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Nightmode increases the iso hence the lighter pictures. You should notice either more noise in the picture or loss in sharpness as the built in noise reduction kicks in. The flare you see is lenses flare from the bright light sources in the picture and us a result of the increase in iso. Its all basic photography stuff, and no your cameras not buffered.
Better quality cameras and lenses can reduce it to some extent but mobile and compact cameras are very limited which us why people pay thousands for dslr's cameras and even more for quality lenses.
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Thank you for ur response. What about the red dot? more seen on low light or artificial conditions?
Hello, i have a red dot problem and i dont know how to fix it.
THe SGS2 camera is terrible.
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THe SGS2 camera is terrible.
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how can u say, daytime pics are great, video too. but night and low light is not as good though. u know any other better camera on the market?
Camera lens might be broken
My camera suddenly had problems with focusing and the pictures were terrible/not as good as they used to. Inspecting the camera lens closely did not reveal anything odd.
When I disassembled the back of my phone (removed the battery cover, removed the screws and gently took apart the back of the phone housing) I still could not see anything wrong with my camera lens/cover. The lens/cover is part of the back of the phone housing.
However, then I held the lens/cover up against a really bright light and looked through the lens/cover, I discovered that there are several layers in this lens/cover and that one of them had cracks (looked like a snowflake). It was impossible to see this without disassembling the phone housing and holding the cover up against a bright light looking though it.
Trying to take a picture without the cover everything was perfect. Ordered a new phone housing from ebay the same day...
Your pictures seems to have the same characteristics as mine; not focused and a bit blurry. Try to remove the back of your phone housing and see if that helps. If it does; order a new phone housing.
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Thank you for ur response. What about the red dot? more seen on low light or artificial conditions?
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Wow, that's quite obvious too.
Haven't seen this red dot in any of my pics so think it must be a hardware fault...
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That comment is laughable mate, you obviously haven't seen the thread in this forum with loads of user submitted photos taken with the S2, terrible they aint, stunning more like!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139591
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Wow, that's quite obvious too.
Haven't seen this red dot in any of my pics so think it must be a hardware fault...
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well can u try to take pictures of a computer screen in low light conditions and outside on the street and upload them? So i can compare?
I dont get it, some people say its normal some not.
I need proof!
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That comment is laughable mate, you obviously haven't seen the thread in this forum with loads of user submitted photos taken with the S2, terrible they aint, stunning more like!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139591
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A camera that only works properly in daylight is a terrible camera, regardless of how good the daytime photos are. Tbh I'm just a bit mad about the night video focus crap.
btw, with the old rom my lens was moving out hitting the glass making a clicking noise, xxkg1 (XEF)
now updated official poland version
( http://www.android-hilfe.de/origina...aki3-i9100xxki3-i9100xxki3-kies-offiziel.html )
and there is no clicking? is that normal?
Also, with the new version (Poland) that has no cliicking, when i change the scene to text (i guess its macro in english) i do get a small clicking sound again - the lens moving against the glass.
Hey Guys,
I got my Note about 2 weeks ago and have noticed that the camera and pictures are unusually grainy/noisy and the auto focus is subpar which results in blurry pictures. I have messed with the ISO settings changing it to 100 and 200.. which seems to help some, but its still noticeable as well as the settings dont save. I have tried 3rd party apps as well, still the problem persists. I've also compared my camera and photos to a buddy's Sprint Note 2 and his are far superior. My next step is to go to Verizon, but i just wanted to see if anyone else was having issues. I have heard that it could probably be the Drivers and that it might be fixed with an update, hopefully so, because of now, im highly disappointed.
any input or advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Josh
That doesn't sound right, I get great pics from mine.
Obviously they are not as good as my EOS 1D Canon DSLR but they are amazing for a camera phone IMHO.
Here is a shot I took in a very dimly lit room where I wasn't even sure the pics would come out:
http://s361.beta.photobucket.com/user/jmorton10_photo/media/Camera-ZOOM_zpsbafd9ff2.jpg.html
I took over 100 shots and they all came out great. I printed an 8"x10" pic from this and nobody can believe it's from my phone.
I have used Camera ZoomFX or Camera FV-5 (to save RAW images) in my last 3-4 phones.
it's definitely not right.
to get even a decent picture, i have to manually set the ISO to 100 or 200, then focus (because the auto focus is terrible as well) and then if i move even the slightest, the picture comes out blurry.
Moose1988 said:
it's definitely not right.
to get even a decent picture, i have to manually set the ISO to 100 or 200, then focus (because the auto focus is terrible as well) and then if i move even the slightest, the picture comes out blurry.
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You have anti shake on?
Like most phones I find pics pretty bad if im not in bright light...or using flash..
And manually setting the iso at 100 in dark conditions is obviously gonna blur..youre better off using the flash and turning the exposure down a bit
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You have anti shake on?
Like most phones I find pics pretty bad if im not in bright light...or using flash..
And manually setting the iso at 100 in dark conditions is obviously gonna blur..youre better off using the flash and turning the exposure down a bit
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well when setting the ISO to lower levels, Anti Shake is greyed out.
and everything in low light is gonna blur, yeah.. but im talking about all the time. regardless of light. I can get somewhat better pictures when I adjust the settings, but, that is somewhat time consuming when wanting to take a quick picture, especially since it doesnt save the settings I choose.
I am having the same problem. No solution yet.
Is your camera lense dirty? Wipe it with a microfiber cloth or something.
I'm having problems with blurry pictures as well. Seems like the camera is not "fast" enough trying to capture kids who move around while you're trying to take a picture. I've got it set to single shot, highest resolution, auto iso and auto exposure and still get some noisy pics and blurry faces. Not sure what it is....
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I am having the same problem. No solution yet.
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Maybe an update will help. Here's to hoping
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Is your camera lense dirty? Wipe it with a microfiber cloth or something.
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I make sure its clean everytime. I thought that might be it but no. Its more of a grain.. like its the software or a driver issue
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I'm having problems with blurry pictures as well. Seems like the camera is not "fast" enough trying to capture kids who move around while you're trying to take a picture. I've got it set to single shot, highest resolution, auto iso and auto exposure and still get some noisy pics and blurry faces. Not sure what it is....
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Yeah exactly. I have the same exact issues.
Could it be a Verizon Note issue?
I just did some testing, seems anti shake adds an enormous amount of noise to images, as does auto contrast.
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I just did some testing, seems anti shake adds an enormous amount of noise to images, as does auto contrast.
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I never use either of those settings, but I'm definitely surprised that as ruins the image like that.
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I'm having problems with blurry pictures as well. Seems like the camera is not "fast" enough trying to capture kids who move around while you're trying to take a picture.
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LOL, no big surprise there.
Some real digital cameras are going to have that problem..
I don't think its the anti shake as I have mine turned off. I have my flash set to off but maybe because the room I'm in isn't bright enough so it's pumping up the iso to capture the shot and thus its grainier..
But I've still notice that it's hard to get a good picture of moving subjects like kids oe dogs as it doesn't seem to focus on the right place or the focus point moves to easily.
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But I've still notice that it's hard to get a good picture of moving subjects like kids oe dogs as it doesn't seem to focus on the right place or the focus point moves to easily.
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These are some of the main reasons people buy DSLRs. NO little dc is going to be fast enough for any kind of action shots.
I have done pro photography for years. When I want to take any kind of action (especially in lower light like you typically find inside your house), I grab my DSLR with a fast lens. That camera will shoot 8 frames per second, all in perfect focus, stops all action and will do it easily in lower light conditions.
The camera phone however works great if you give it half a chance. If you are taking a posed shot (like the one I posted where the girls were not moving) and have enough light (use the flash if necessary) then the phone and its tiny little lens and sensor will give very decent results.
I have been playing with the camera a ton in the last couple days using this app:
http://www.camerafv5.com/
The more I practice with it, the more impressed I am with this device.
If you understand basic photography, FV-5 gives you tons of ways to very quickly/easily make a fast settings change with one fast click to change things like the auto focus point, white balance setting etc to give really outstanding results within the limitations of the actual hardware.
Posters talk about an update like that will magically cure why they can't take a decent picture. No update is going to fix blurry pics when the cause of that is user error (and reading some of these posts it is obvious to me that is the case).
Posters are expecting results that are way beyond the capabilities of a device that is a phone first and also happens to also take snapshots. Expecting it to capture perfectly focused, sharp images of your kid or dog running around the yard is ridiculous. That is the job of a DSLR, even some of the better dedicated DCs will struggle with those kind of shots.
There are two basic settings that apply to any picture taken, F stop (how much light the lens lets in) and shutter speed (how long the shutter stays open while snapping the picture). Both these settings are adjustable on the better quality digital cameras. The faster the shutter speed, the better it is for stopping action. If you shoot at say 1/1000 of a second, you can shoot a clear pic of a race car. On the other hand, 1/15 of a second is so slow that even a slight twitch on the photographers part will result in a blurry image.
With the phone cameras, you don't have the luxury of altering these settings much (if there is any adjustment at all). With the tiny lens of the N2 (or ANY camera phone) you cannot alter the F stop setting at all, it is what's called a fixed aperature and is not adjustable. That only leaves the shutter speed to change to get the correct exposure for any particular shot.
Using Camera FV-5, you can get a small amount of manual control to make that shutter speed faster (better to stop movement) but it doesn't help all that much because if you pick a really fast/short shutter speed the image will usually come out way too dark as it is not letting in enough light to properly expose the image. With a good quality DC, you would open up the F stop more to compensate for this, but you can't do that with the fixed aperature phone camera lens (which is so tiny it doesn't let in much light to begin with)
Camera FV-5 gives you more control than the stock camera app which gives you no control al all, but the tiny lens/sensor etc can only do just so much. I have simplified a lot of this info to make it easier to understand, but the same basic principles apply to any camera all the way back to film cameras.
To take better pics with the N2, try to...
1: hold the camera as still as possible, brace it against something to help with this if possible
2: provide as much light as possible. Either add more ambient light or use the flash (or both)
3: don't expect results that equal a good quality digital camera, the N2 works great for basically posed snapshots etc. If you're trying to shhot your kids Varsity Basketball league or your 2 year old chasing the dog around the back yard get yourself a basic DSLR.
Well for me... I do know how to use a camera.. I've set all the settings, I know basic photography. I know its a phone camera, but my thunderbolt took better pictures than this. To me it seems like a phone issue... NOT a user issue. Thanks for the lesson though. Appreciate it. :good:
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Well for me... I do know how to use a camera.. I've set all the settings, I know basic photography. I know its a phone camera, but my thunderbolt took better pictures than this. To me it seems like a phone issue... NOT a user issue. Thanks for the lesson though. Appreciate it. :good:
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So maybe it is a phone issue, maybe yours has defective hardware??
I'm hoping so. It really seems more grainy than it should be. I still need to go to Verizon and check another Note 2.
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LOL, no big surprise there.
Some real digital cameras are going to have that problem..
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I'm not talking about kids running around but rather them sitting still long a full 2-3s so I can snap a good picture without them moving their head. I don't have problems with my gnex camera at all in the same location. I seem to be having similar focus or grainy images that the op is seeing.
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The problem is that your last phone was an htc. Im coming from a Rezound and that camera was way better than this one. Never really even mess with the settings on the Rezound and the pictures always came out crisp and detailed.
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The problem is that your last phone was an htc. Im coming from a Rezound and that camera was way better than this one. Never really even mess with the settings on the Rezound and the pictures always came out crisp and detailed.
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I'm not trying to be argumentative here at all, but I don't agree with this.
I still have two Rezounds and I rarely used the cameras because even though I kept reading how awesome the Rezound camera was I was never overly impressed with mine. I recently compared identical shots from one of the Rezounds with my N2. I left both on full auto so it was a fair comparison.
All the shots from the N2 came out perfect while the shots from the Rezound varied considerably. Some of the Rezound shots where too dark and others missed the focus point.
I really think some of you guys may have defective N2s and should go back to verizon and compare yours to another unit to compare results. My N2 is the first phone camera that works so well for me that I don't feel the need to carry an extra small P&S camera with me along with the phone.
I took over 100 shots of a Christmas party for my 12 year old daughters soccer team. I sent them to all the parents of the girls and they are thrilled with the shots. I took them inside where the light was not that great and most other phone cameras would have produced disastrous results. The shots are all perfectly exposed and it only missed the AF point on a couple shots.
The parents have all seen me shooting with my Canon EOS 1D DSLR over the years and naturally assumed that was what I was using to take the shots. When I told them the shots all came from my phone they where astounded. I printed a few 8"x10" shots for some of the parents and they can't believe it was possible to get a shot of that quality from a phone.
One of them told me yesterday they had framed the shot and hung it in their family room. Now, granted I have been doing photography professionally for years and I will always take better pictures in most situations without even thinking about it but I don't think that's the case here. I had my wife take some shots with the note to make sure that it wasn't just me. Her results where not as good as mine, but they where just fine as far as the camera performance.
Hi gang,
I come to you today a little sad and depressed. I live in Pittsburgh and its blue skies here today, 73 degrees.
Naturally I'm out and about taking pictures.
Quick background, I love cameras. Love the S6 active, but there were times I wish I had more manual settings ( all the time).
Enter the LG V10. Loved the presentation, advertisements, heck I love manual video mode. But I'm a little disturbed by the quality.
I'm one of those people that zoom in, not necessarily to critique but to enjoy the delicacies that my eye cannot normally see.
Day1 of the LG V10, I dropped some money and bought it.
Was a little curious why after I take a picture whether it's in manual or auto mode I have to wait a second until I take another picture. This is 2015, almost 2016. Not 2012.
Also, the compression LG uses on this is...to say the least, disappointing. I'm talking picture mode. I zoom in just once and its distorted, blended, blurred. Why, LG, why?
This is LG's chance to shine. Not with the processor gpu or RAM, but with the camera and Video.
I'm considering fresh installing and master resetting this just to see if the camera is any better after complete reinstall. Has anybody had any success? I'm...seriously disappointed. Not a Samsung fanboy but when I see greatness I appreciate it. I know Samsung will copy this on next flagship, more manual camera and Video settings but this is now, I want a great camera that can compete with the big boys with that f1.8.
Any suggestions? I don't want to take this back but on a beautiful day like today, these pictures should be turning out amazing. Sad That the RAW image is crap too. ?
Can anybody help or am I just whining (gulp)? Could I have a bad camera or not have an update?
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Can anybody help or am I just whining (gulp)? Could I have a bad camera or not have an update?
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Hate to say this, but sound like you are whining to me. Though I am not a camera savey individual...so I can't fully say. The camera...I can tolerate one second for anything. If I wanted true manual camera, I will buy a camera...a real one.
You could try factoring reset to see if that will change your perspective. Also you can return to the store and play with their store demo and see whats up.
From my stand point, i think you are whining lol
Thanks. I honestly want to hear what other people say. I can wait too, but the point is not to wait with these processors. Snap snap snap. Just was curious about how other individuals felt, not the reviewers who honestly almost never know what they are doing or have another objective in mind.
Also thanks for honesty. I figure I am whining, I just wanted to see something amazing today.
I think if hold the button down it will shoot in burst mode? Have you tried that?
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I think if hold the button down it will shoot in burst mode? Have you tried that?
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Yes, that's not what I'm referring to, however. From the time you take a picture to the time it takes to take the next picture, there is a delay.
That being said, there must have been something wrong while taking pictures outside yesterday. Not sure what but pictures are a little better today for another wonderful clear blue skies and 73 degrees.
Btw it appears to be an autofocus issue. I'll press button and it will take photo but won't allow me to take another photo for over a second. Same on G4. Tried it in Best Buy last night then the S6. S6 can repeatedly take shot almost instantaneously after you take last shot. I'm still not sure why there is such a delay.
Is this happening for everybody? I keep reading in posts that everyone who loves this phone the camera is "fast" and I'm not sure what they are referring to?
In AUTO mode I think it has a lot to do with HDR. If you turn that off, it'll be much faster. I'm not exactly sure how much will you lose in quality though...
But in Manual mode, it's quite fast for me. I can basically take the next picture instantenously. It doesn't have that lag that it has in Auto mode with HDR on.
After I read this I tested again to see how quickly mine takes shots and the details. I've not done too much with the camera as of yet.
The results :
In Auto mode with HDR auto it fires off pics as quickly as I can press the button.
In simple mode there is a slight delay because when I touch the screen it wants to focus then snap the pic.
There is a little bit of grain upon zooming in with both modes which I've not noticed before. Seems like a little much for a 16mp shooter and I don't think it was that much on my G3. I think for what it is though it is very solid. As some others have said if you want the most crisp detail for zooming an cropping you can't beat a true DSLR camera but I don't think you're sacrificing alot by using this for everyday point and shoot.
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Youre definitely NOT whining! I believed the v10 camera hype and bought one two days ago. And i agree 100% with you that the camera is not great. I'll even go further and state that it sucks. The shutter delay is bad and the quality is muddy and noisy beyond words in low light. This clearly stands as my last big mistake of 2015!
I agree. The cams are absolutely not what they are hyped up to be. Especially the front cams. The selfie quality is just horrendous. Both cams are very noisy, terrible in low light, and blow out lights, lamps, etc. to an excessive amount. If I didn't get the phone on AT&T's Next plan.... it would be going back. The cam/vid hype was a huge decision in getting it & it doesn't live up to it.
The best thing to do is complain on both their Twitter & Facebook pages, although they are more responsive on Twitter. I would like to think a lot of these issues could be remedied with software updates for the cameras.
Just as what the title says, do you guys think these G5 camera shots are normal? Why?
To me they look mostly terrible, especially when zoomed in, the pics would go blurry and painting-like. Lots of grains in low lights. I hope this is normal though.
I'm wondering how this handset is even a flagship
camera shot samples are in the attachment
video samples:
https://vimeo.com/182562180
https://vimeo.com/182562179
All taken on either simple mode or auto mode at default settings.
minigreen said:
G5 camera shots are normal....
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Really appreciate your confirmation. I just thought mine was defective and that I needed to get it replaced before the warranty is out. Mine is a G5 SE by the way.
Still, this selfie shot of my pal bugs me out, given plenty of light and the shot still looks like sht. I mean it doesn't look good enough to my taste, rather too cartoonish sigh../:
Photo's aren't meant to be zoomed into unless you take them manual RAW.
The selfie I would say the mouth moved causing the weirdness.
The photo's on the my G5 are excellent and manual is as good as you'll get outside of an SLR.
Reading the specs for the G5 SE, seems it's a different processor? Probably accounts for the shots coming out a bit blurry if the processor can't keep up. If the processor is cut down the the phone you have isn't a flagship
I would get an S6 or S7 if you're not happy, as the iphones cameras are pants.
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Photo's aren't meant to be zoomed into unless you take them manual RAW.
The selfie I would say the mouth moved causing the weirdness.
The photo's on the my G5 are excellent and manual is as good as you'll get outside of an SLR.
Reading the specs for the G5 SE, seems it's a different processor? Probably accounts for the shots coming out a bit blurry if the processor can't keep up. If the processor is cut down the the phone you have isn't a flagship
I would get an S6 or S7 if you're not happy, as the iphones cameras are pants.
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Well, that sounds like bad news I wanted to love this phone. Anyways thanks for clearing it up for me
Video recording is tough for me as well. My brother took some amazing videos with iPhone SE compared to my blurry ones. As for the photos Simple & Auto are the worst. I'm guessing it has something to do with software. Try Manual, tinkering with the settings, and you'll notice the difference.
Here are some pics I took using Manual.
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Video recording is tough for me as well. My brother took some amazing videos with iPhone SE compared to my blurry ones. As for the photos Simple & Auto are the worst. I'm guessing it has something to do with software. Try Manual, tinkering with the settings, and you'll notice the difference.
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Wow superb shots you got there! So your G5 in simple & auto mode takes about as bad quality still pics as mine? like water color paintings?
G5 is bad in taking macro shots, on the contrary it's very good in panorama shots.
http://www.androidauthority.com/camera-shootout-results-690429/
marveloz said:
Really appreciate your confirmation. I just thought mine was defective and that I needed to get it replaced before the warranty is out. Mine is a G5 SE by the way.
Still, this selfie shot of my pal bugs me out, given plenty of light and the shot still looks like sht. I mean it doesn't look good enough to my taste, rather too cartoonish sigh../:
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disable the face tune completely, you know, that slider at the bottom
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G5 takes amazing shots, I use it for my instagram, it's fantastic!!!!
If you want very sharp shots, use manual mode, manual focus and shoot in DNG.
The wide angle lens loses lots of details in darker environment, but still so fun to use.
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disable the face tune completely, you know, that slider at the bottom
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G5 takes amazing shots, I use it for my instagram, it's fantastic!!!!
If you want very sharp shots, use manual mode, manual focus and shoot in DNG.
The wide angle lens loses lots of details in darker environment, but still so fun to use.
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I dragged the slider at the bottom with a face image on both sides all the way to the left and wahlah the front camera take sharper and more detailed shots ever since. Thank you!!
So my G5 SE is normal isn't it? I don't need to RMA it right?
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I dragged the slider at the bottom with a face image on both sides all the way to the left and wahlah the front camera take sharper and more detailed shots ever since. Thank you!!
So my G5 SE is normal isn't it? I don't need to RMA it right?
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it's normal!! And you're welcome!
And remember taking selfies in bright condition makes photos sharper as the iso is not pumped up.
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it's normal!! And you're welcome!
And remember taking selfies in bright condition makes photos sharper as the iso is not pumped up.
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Thanks man, that means a lot really. You got instagram?
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Thanks man, that means a lot really. You got instagram?
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Yes! My instagram username is @bastienhere
I've had the phone for a couple of days now ant the battery life is stellar but the camera is such a disappointment. Compared with the S22 Ultra it lets in less light and the pictures are overall darker. Same goes for low light pictures, the S22 Ultra is consistently brighter in all scenarios. It reminds me of the difference between my iPhone 13Pro and my S22 Ultra last year the former always capturing more light. To be honest I was expecting the opposite to be true with all the reviewers clamoring about the S23 Ultra's better low life performance and camera overall. I'm really not impressed so far.
Anyone else still in possession of both phones? What's your experience been like? Any suggestions? Did I miss something in the setting? So many questions
Clear cam data, try a hard reboot and clear system cache. Try in safe mode.
Carefully go through -all- the cam settings and options.
Return it if you don't like it for a cash refund.
Are you using the 12 MP default option instead of 200 MP? The 12 MP is said to give the best results on colors and contrast when shooting in low light.
"Binning pixels like this increases their effective size, allowing them to gather more light and detail. So the ISOCELL HP2 can bin every four pixels to effectively make them 1.2μm in size and produce 50-megapixel images, or bin 16 for even larger 2.4μm pixels and 12.5-megapixel images."
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Clear cam data, try a hard reboot and clear system cache. Try in safe mode.
Carefully go through -all- the cam settings and options.
Return it if you don't like it for a cash refund.
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Done. No dice. The camera still lets in less light on the S23U. In the settings I noticed that Camera assistant is missing. Must be a One UI 5.1 thing. Do you also have the S22 and S23 Ultra? Is that the reason for your suggestions? Are you seeing different results?
I'm upgrading from S22U (SnapDragon) to S23U and the few comparison shots I've taken I found that the S23U does capture slightly more detail, but there's not much difference at all. Remember this is the initial firmware for the phone though so the camera performance should hopefully receive some updates over time.
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I'm upgrading from S22U (SnapDragon) to S23U and the few comparison shots I've taken I found that the S23U does capture slightly more detail, but there's not much difference at all. Remember this is the initial firmware for the phone though so the camera performance should hopefully receive some updates over time.
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For sure. I totally get that. The thing is all the reviewers said that the s23u captured more light and that has yet to materialize for me. They were using the same software. To your point, the software should get better but I feel as though this is a hardware thing. But I'm no expert.
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Are you using the 12 MP default option instead of 200 MP? The 12 MP is said to give the best results on colors and contrast when shooting in low light.
"Binning pixels like this increases their effective size, allowing them to gather more light and detail. So the ISOCELL HP2 can bin every four pixels to effectively make them 1.2μm in size and produce 50-megapixel images, or bin 16 for even larger 2.4μm pixels and 12.5-megapixel images."
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If by 12MP you mean 3:4 absolutely. Didn't change anything.
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If by 12MP you mean 3:4 absolutely. Didn't change anything.
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I don't have my phone yet but there is a setting somewhere that you can choose between 200 MP, 50 MP or 12 MP in settings.
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Done. No dice. The camera still lets in less light on the S23U. In the settings I noticed that Camera assistant is missing. Must be a One UI 5.1 thing. Do you also have the S22 and S23 Ultra? Is that the reason for your suggestions? Are you seeing different results?
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Try shooting raws, at least 3 f/stops more exposure and WB correction. Downside is the post processing effort/time required.
The issue may simply be the firmware instruction set. Samsung is notorious for dialing things in after the release. I'm still happily running N10+'s on Pie and Q. I demand a dual drive capable device. I'm not pleased at all by the newer Android versions from Gookill either.
The dead zone between pixels on such a small sensor with such a huge pixel count is concerning as is the individual pixel microlense quality. Even 20mp is pushing it. Canon full frame sensors are maxed out at about 26mp.
Regardless of the camera learning it's capabilities, limitations and shooting effectively within those boundaries is what grabs keepers.
I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have it.
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Samsung Note 10plus has better results! Thanks
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Is it the camera or the display?
Check/compare images on a properly color calibrated monitor... yeah, it's a can of worms.
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I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have
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I'll try tomorrow
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I'll try tomorrow
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In low light hold the phone as still as possible.
Use a nearby fixed object to brace it or yourself on when possible.
Using the spen as a remote shutter release will help too.
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I'll try tomorrow! This app is so wonky for me. I'll try tomorrow and post the pics.
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In low light hold the phone as still as possible.
Use a nearby fixed object to brace it or yourself on when possible.
Using the spen as a remote shutter release will help too.
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I got a Benro Tripod with a Phone attachment mounted on top. Gonna try that when I get the Ultra Monday doing some dark photos and using the pen as remote shutter release. Will also do same with the S22U before sending it back to Samsung.
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I haven't had issues so far with the camera outputting dark images. I've tried some shots inside at night (with main cam), shots outside, shots with main 12, 50 and 200mp modes, 3x, 10x. So far I'm pretty satisfied and also noticed a huge improvement in processing especially for 3x and 10x outside which, on my s21 ultra, I was always doing those shots with gcam. Now I could actually consider using stock, though I need to test way more extensively to know for sure.
Might help if you provide us with some pictures of the issue you're having, maybe side by side with your s22 if you still have it.
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Okay I think this worked. I'll let you guess which is which.
Edit: @blackhawk was spot on. They were both from the S22u. I have such a hard time with the app. I re-uploaded the correct pics. Left S23u Right S22u.
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I got a Benro Tripod with a Phone attachment mounted on top. Gonna try that when I get the Ultra Monday doing some dark photos and using the pen as remote shutter release. Will also do same with the S22U before sending it back to Samsung.
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I loathe tripods. Learned to improvise and shoot in low light with my Canon Pro cam 15 years ago.
I'll use anything at any height or angle I can reach as a brace; with practice you can land one of a kind keepers no tripod can grab.
Smart phones are poor shooting platforms; light weight so there's little stabilizing inertia and lousy handholds. Poor shutter release and controls. However they lend themselves to bracing well enough. In a case you don't have to worry much about what you brace it on...
The traditional elbows in, wide staggered foot stance, hold your breath works too. Shooting technique counts...
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Okay I think this worked. I'll let you guess which is which.
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Poor example; different shooting heights skews the results. The AF lock on point is also different so the bottle's print is out of focus in the one shot. Light metering and colors look near identical in both.
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I loathe tripods. Learned to improvise and shoot in low light with my Canon Pro cam 15 years ago.
I'll use anything at any height or angle I can reach as a brace; with practice you can land one of a kind keepers no tripod can grab.
Smart phones are poor shooting platforms; light weight so there's little stabilizing inertia and lousy handholds. Poor shutter release and controls. However they lend themselves to bracing well enough. In a case you don't have to worry much about what you brace it on...
The traditional elbows in, wide staggered foot stance, hold your breath works too. Shooting technique counts...
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That might work for Photos but not very well for videos especially when you are zooming in 20x. Here's is an example where I have S22U on a tripod and zoom in on a waterfall from across the canyon and pan up and down. No way you gonna do it that smoothly holding it in your hands even braced. So for videos I love the tripod. It's the very lightest one they make and perfect for cell phones or light cameras. Change YouTube resolution to 1080p for best viewing.