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After searching the forums this seems to be an LG specific issue and dates as far back as 2012 on some models, however the suggested solutions have not worked for me, so I am hoping that there may be another way around.
So I got a US998 (carrier unlocked US) V30 and I stuck my cricket wireless sim in and all works flawless. When I try to do a software update I get the message 'Your phone is not registered yet'. So OK, I go online and register the phone using the model code and IMEI, but still no luck.
Then I followed the suggestion of installing LG PC Suite, which tells me that this phone is not compatible and I should use LG Bridge. That connects but gives me in a nutshell the same issue that it cannot get an update due to some issue.
One suggestion was to use the main carrier sim, which in my case would be ATT, but I don't know anyone who has ATT as service. I guess I could ask some random strangers if they are on that service and if they would be willing to let me use their sim in my phone, but unlikely.
Has anyone encountered this issue and what did you do to get your phone to update?
anosis said:
After searching the forums this seems to be an LG specific issue and dates as far back as 2012 on some models, however the suggested solutions have not worked for me, so I am hoping that there may be another way around.
So I got a US998 (carrier unlocked US) V30 and I stuck my cricket wireless sim in and all works flawless. When I try to do a software update I get the message 'Your phone is not registered yet'. So OK, I go online and register the phone using the model code and IMEI, but still no luck.
Then I followed the suggestion of installing LG PC Suite, which tells me that this phone is not compatible and I should use LG Bridge. That connects but gives me in a nutshell the same issue that it cannot get an update due to some issue.
One suggestion was to use the main carrier sim, which in my case would be ATT, but I don't know anyone who has ATT as service. I guess I could ask some random strangers if they are on that service and if they would be willing to let me use their sim in my phone, but unlikely.
Has anyone encountered this issue and what did you do to get your phone to update?
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There's no update for this phone yet.
By the way, I use AT&T SIM card for AT&T Prepaid. Same exact SIM card as AT&T postpaid (contract) customers.
Not sure why you are getting that error message. When I check for update, it says I have the latest software. I didn't register anything online, didn't connect to any software.
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ChazzMatt said:
There's no update for this phone yet.
By the way, I use AT&T SIM card for AT&T Prepaid. Same exact SIM card as AT&T postpaid (contract) customers.
Not sure why you are getting that error message. When I check for update, it says I have the latest software. I didn't register anything online, didn't connect to any software.
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I am on Cricket, which operates on ATT network, is even owned by ATT, but apparently is not recognized by LG as one of the carriers.
As I said, others all the way back to 2015 suggest to remove the cricket sim and insert an ATT sim, which apparently registers the phone properly on ATT's network and thus allows for OTA's to occur.
I am aware that no current updates are out, but when they do I don't want to be stuck on 7.1.2. Anyway, I will ask around at work when I get back next week. There are bound to be some folks around that use ATT.
I'm using ATT post paid monthly plan with an old sim card from my previous phone, and it works fine on my us998. However, for some reason, on myatt page this phone is not being recognized, so I went to att store and asked someone to help me registering this imei in their system, but after they entered my imei they say this number is unknown to their system, so it can't be registered. I don't know whether that will cause any problems in the future, but since the system updates should come from LG but not att so it should be fine.
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I'm using ATT post paid monthly plan with an old sim card from my previous phone, and it works fine on my us998. However, for some reason, on myatt page this phone is not being recognized, so I went to att store and asked someone to help me registering this imei in their system, but after they entered my imei they say this number is unknown to their system, so it can't be registered. I don't know whether that will cause any problems in the future, but since the system updates should come from LG but not att so it should be fine.
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My AT&T SIM card also worked fine but I wanted to make sure I was getting the fastest speeds, so I took the phone to AT&T store and registered it in their system. Since AT&T also sells a branded LG V30, there was no issue registering it. They know what an LG V30 is. They just needed the serial number.
Whereas three years ago, for both mine and my wife's Moto XT1225 (international version of the Droid Turbo) which I imported from another country, I told them to register it as a Moto Nexus 6 -- closest they had in their system. Same manufacturer, 90% same specs, just a more reasonable size of the Moto Nexus 6. That worked.
You are right that system updates for the carrier unlocked US998 will come from LG and not AT&T or any carrier.
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I'm using ATT post paid monthly plan with an old sim card from my previous phone, and it works fine on my us998. However, for some reason, on myatt page this phone is not being recognized, so I went to att store and asked someone to help me registering this imei in their system, but after they entered my imei they say this number is unknown to their system, so it can't be registered. I don't know whether that will cause any problems in the future, but since the system updates should come from LG but not att so it should be fine.
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ChazzMatt said:
My AT&T SIM card also worked fine but I wanted to make sure I was getting the fastest speeds, so I took the phone to AT&T store and registered it in their system. Since AT&T also sells a branded LG V30, there was no issue registering it. They know what an LG V30 is. They just needed the serial number.
Whereas three years ago, for both mine and my wife's Moto XT1225 (international version of the Droid Turbo) which I imported from another country, I told them to register it as a Moto Nexus 6 -- closest they had in their system. Same manufacturer, 90% same specs, just a more reasonable size of the Moto Nexus 6. That worked.
You are right that system updates for the carrier unlocked US998 will come from LG and not AT&T or any carrier.
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So neither one of you is getting a pop up message when you try to do a manual check of software updates (see the attached images)?
Yesterday I registered the device with the 14 digit MEID hoping that was the trick to get rid of the message but no luck, today I added the IMEI which adds a digit as a second product on LG's support page. Maybe that is what I am missing.
I'll contact LG next to find out what is going on. I can also not take advantage of the 2 year warranty as the guy I bought the phone from won it during a LG promotional event in NY so no purchase receipt apparently exists. Oh well.
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So neither one of you is getting a pop up message when you try to do a manual check of software updates (see the attached images)?
Yesterday I registered the device with the 14 digit MEID hoping that was the trick to get rid of the message but no luck, today I added the IMEI which adds a digit as a second product on LG's support page. Maybe that is what I am missing.
I'll contact LG next to find out what is going on. I can also not take advantage of the 2 year warranty as the guy I bought the phone from won it during a LG promotional event in NY so no purchase receipt apparently exists. Oh well.
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Here's the message I'm getting when I click on software update. Took the screenshot last night when I first replied to you, but Tapatalk app was fighting me in trying to attach it. Said I didn't have "permission" to include attachments to this forum, when I include attachment all the time.
I plan on voiding the warranty as soon as possible on both my LG V30 and V30+.
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Here's the message I'm getting when I click on software update. Took the screenshot last night when I first replied to you, but Tapatalk app was fighting me in trying to attach it. Said I didn't have "permission" to include attachments to this forum, when I include attachment all the time.
I plan on voiding the warranty as soon as possible on both my LG V30 and V30+.
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That is the message I would expect to see too
LG UP might be an option for me I guess if I can't get this worked out. I am new to LG phones so gotta do a little reading up to understand how that all works. Guessing it is similar to ODIN on the SGS phones that I am used to.
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After searching the forums this seems to be an LG specific issue and dates as far back as 2012 on some models, however the suggested solutions have not worked for me, so I am hoping that there may be another way around.
So I got a US998 (carrier unlocked US) V30 and I stuck my cricket wireless sim in and all works flawless. When I try to do a software update I get the message 'Your phone is not registered yet'. So OK, I go online and register the phone using the model code and IMEI, but still no luck.
Then I followed the suggestion of installing LG PC Suite, which tells me that this phone is not compatible and I should use LG Bridge. That connects but gives me in a nutshell the same issue that it cannot get an update due to some issue.
One suggestion was to use the main carrier sim, which in my case would be ATT, but I don't know anyone who has ATT as service. I guess I could ask some random strangers if they are on that service and if they would be willing to let me use their sim in my phone, but unlikely.
Has anyone encountered this issue and what did you do to get your phone to update?
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I just set up my 3rd carrier unlocked LG V30/V30+ last night. For each, when you go to the software update section you have to agree to all the legalese the first time. You did that? Several boxes to check and agree to before it will check for updates.
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Of course, as mentioned before I'm using AT&T Prepaid SIM cards. Real AT&T, not Cricket. And yes I know AT&T owns Cricket. But there's a reason you'll never see an AT&T logo anywhere near a Cricket store, and they don't let Cricket use the same AT&T SIM card postpaid/prepaid users do. Cricket is configured as an MVNO. I don't know why that would matter in this case, but possibly some way AT&T botched something else with Cricket?
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So I got a US998 (carrier unlocked US) V30 and I stuck my cricket wireless sim in and all works flawless. When I try to do a software update I get the message 'Your phone is not registered yet'. So OK, I go online and register the phone using the model code and IMEI, but still no luck
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Tell me where you bought your phone? You say "carrier unlocked"...
Is it...
* "open market" US998, official carrier unlocked model bought from authorized retailers like B&H Photo or Best Buy --
or is it...
* the unofficial carrier unlocked model from U.S. Cellular? Either bought from them or through eBay seller?
They are both "US998". But if from U.S. Cellular, then technically it is a carrier phone. Which may affect how updates are checked, distributed.
Just throwing out ideas.
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ChazzMatt said:
Tell me where you bought your phone? You say "carrier unlocked"...
Is it...
* "open market" US998, official carrier unlocked model bought from authorized B&H Photo or Best Buy --
or is it...
* the unofficial carrier unlocked model from U.S. Cellular? Either bought from them or through eBay seller?
They are both "US998". But if from U.S. Cellular, then technically it is a carrier phone. Which may affect how updates are checked, distributed.
Just throwing out ideas.
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So after checking again, you are spot on. This is the US Cellular version, so now what? I am stuck not being able to take updates unless I become a USC customer?
I bought the phone from an ebay seller who won the phone during a LG promotion in NY and he states that it was unlocked, which I can confirm since it took my Cricket Wireless card without any issue, but not being able to update will be a big worry for me.
anosis said:
So after checking again, you are spot on. This is the US Cellular version, so now what? I am stuck not being able to take updates unless I become a USC customer?
I bought the phone from an ebay seller who won the phone during a LG promotion in NY and he states that it was unlocked, which I can confirm since it took my Cricket Wireless card without any issue, but not being able to update will be a big worry for me.
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Others have bought the U.S.Cellular model to use on other carriers, and they haven't posted any issues -- but they bought from U.S. Cellular itself. Whereas this one was a prize in a contest given by LG. So, maybe it's not "registered" in U.S. Cellular system like ones they actually sold? Basically something has slipped through the cracks.
This sounds like a Tier 2 support question for LG customer service or U.S.Cellular.
Sorry you're going through this.
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Thanks for the support. I will give LG a call and see what can be done. The nearest USC store is about 3 hours away, so that doesn't seem like a fun option.
anosis said:
Thanks for the support. I will give LG a call and see what can be done. The nearest USC store is about 3 hours away, so that doesn't seem like a fun option.
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Hello,
I also would like to know, I am on the same boat.
I got it used, the previous owner said he won it from LG event.
This is US Cellular version US998, but I can use it on my AT&T.
The thing is there is no US Cellular branch in southern CA.
Please post how you do.
Thank you so much!
rhplusa10 said:
Hello,
I also would like to know, I am on the same boat.
I got it used, the previous owner said he won it from LG event.
This is US Cellular version US998, but I can use it on my AT&T.
The thing is there is no US Cellular branch in southern CA.
Please post how you do.
Thank you so much!
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What happens when put in your AT&T SIM card and try to update?
Sent from my carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
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anosis said:
After searching the forums this seems to be an LG specific issue and dates as far back as 2012 on some models, however the suggested solutions have not worked for me, so I am hoping that there may be another way around.
So I got a US998 (carrier unlocked US) V30 and I stuck my cricket wireless sim in and all works flawless. When I try to do a software update I get the message 'Your phone is not registered yet'. So OK, I go online and register the phone using the model code and IMEI, but still no luck.
Then I followed the suggestion of installing LG PC Suite, which tells me that this phone is not compatible and I should use LG Bridge. That connects but gives me in a nutshell the same issue that it cannot get an update due to some issue.
One suggestion was to use the main carrier sim, which in my case would be ATT, but I don't know anyone who has ATT as service. I guess I could ask some random strangers if they are on that service and if they would be willing to let me use their sim in my phone, but unlikely.
Has anyone encountered this issue and what did you do to get your phone to update?
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One more question... Did you disable anything? Alleged bloatware, maybe important services? Using ADB script or that disabler app?
That's something else that could accidentally mess up updates.
Sent from my carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
ChazzMatt said:
What happens when put in your AT&T SIM card and try to update?
Sent from my carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
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One more question... Did you disable anything? Alleged bloatware, maybe important services? Using ADB script or that disabler app?
That's something else that could accidentally mess up updates.
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I am stock, no modifications done at all. I remember a bunch of legal stuff at the beginning of the setup, but don't think I disabled something. I could do a factory reset and start over just to be sure, at this point I'm game for anything.
anosis said:
I am stock, no modifications done at all. I remember a bunch of legal stuff at the beginning of the setup, but don't think I disabled something. I could do a factory reset and start over just to be sure, at this point I'm game for anything.
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I know when I first checked for update on each phone, it asked for even more legal stuff.
I set up two of them over the last weekend.
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ChazzMatt said:
What happens when put in your AT&T SIM card and try to update?
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Same, Your phone is not registered yet.
rhplusa10 said:
Same, Your phone is not registered yet.
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Wow, sorry about that.
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anosis said:
I am stock, no modifications done at all. I remember a bunch of legal stuff at the beginning of the setup, but don't think I disabled something. I could do a factory reset and start over just to be sure, at this point I'm game for anything.
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Factory reset performed and checked all the boxes during signup... still no luck.
I guess next step is to get LG's attention and hope there is a fix for this.
The other odd thing is that I cannot get LG Mobile Support tool installed.
Downloaded the drivers, installed them no issue. Then downloaded the tool and it always gets stuck during the installation process with an empty popup alert window. with a button that has not description, but when I press it the popup closes and the installation stops.
Just wondering is there any method to unlock the Sprint LG V30+ for GSM domestic use without going thru Sprint?
kjack3410 said:
Just wondering is there any method to unlock the Sprint LG V30+ for GSM domestic use without going thru Sprint?
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All answered here.
LG V30 Sim Unlock Code
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3665928
That whole thread is basically about Sprint phones. The answer is, not without doing things that are either illegal or forbidden by XDA to discuss.
Don't mess with problematic Sprint phones, unless you're a Sprint customer. And even then "bad ESN" Sprint phones won't be released by Sprint to Sprint customers.
There's better options. For instance, the U.S.Cellular model US998 is already SIM card unlocked. Or the open market LG US998.
Posted via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
I can unlock look for me on eBay martinez. Digital
I can unlock look for me on eBay martinez. Digital
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Franky Martinez said:
I can unlock look for me on eBay martinez. Digital
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I dont find you
Email?
I've been searching or Sim Unlock Solution for an LG V30+ I got from eBay. Anyone that has overcome this challenge.
should help.
Don't update to Oreo on Sprint if you need to edit apns. I can't add apns anymore..
I have the same problem. Yesterday the Oreo update hit and as a result wiped out my carrier unlock status and now network APN is grayed out. Sprint is unwilling to help and AT&T acts clueless on how to resolve the issue. Seems like my options is either send the phone to LG or sell it to someone.
StraderDynamics said:
I have the same problem. Yesterday the Oreo update hit and as a result wiped out my carrier unlock status and now network APN is grayed out. Sprint is unwilling to help and AT&T acts clueless on how to resolve the issue. Seems like my options is either send the phone to LG or sell it to someone.
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It's not an AT&T phone.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
It's not an AT&T phone.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Yeah, I know. That's why I'm not bugging AT&T about it as I think their resources would be limited since the device is issued by Sprint. I went ahead and gave that LG Sim Unlock site a try so we'll see if that works. For $13 bucks I have nothing to lose. If not then I'll have to make a trip back to the Sprint store and find a way to get the device to talk to their network long enough to reestablish the unlock status from their server. I guess what upsets me the most is the fact that I specifically asked them about this scenario and I was assured that it was not going to be an issue and yet here I am. :/
I went back over to the Sprint store where I originally established service and they put me in touch with their International dept. The rep told me that according to my IMEI number that my phone was still considered to be carrier unlocked and they told me that I have to take the issue up with AT&T. I'm not sure what AT&T can do if they can't access the Mobile APN network settings but I'll bite and try them but I think it's going to come down to being it's not an AT&T problem.
I sure hope that Sim Unlock site comes through or I'll have an $800+ paperweight.
Sorry to hear man. I'm having the same issues. Asked the same questions as well before unlocking. It was unlocked on nougat but relocked after Oreo update. Before the update, they told me the unlock is permanent and that a factory reset or firmware update wouldn't change it. I called, they said "your device is unlocked" which is bs. I'm still trying to get this issue resolved. Thought I was the only one having this issue. Sprint shenanigans...
JWnSC said:
Sorry to hear man. I'm having the same issues. Asked the same questions as well before unlocking. It was unlocked on nougat but relocked after Oreo update. Before the update, they told me the unlock is permanent and that a factory reset or firmware update wouldn't change it. I called, they said "your device is unlocked" which is bs. I'm still trying to get this issue resolved. Thought I was the only one having this issue. Sprint shenanigans...
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Yeah... Well, I got my unlock code from LG Sim Unlock and i'm still in the same boat with a disabled Mobile networks section. It was worth a try for $13.
I think what I am going to do is go back to the Sprint store and get a prepaid 30 days and use that as a method of allowing the phone to communicate back to Sprint's internal servers for UICC unlock if I'm understanding the underlying technology correctly. Once the phone has communicated with their servers then I'll try to switch back to my AT&T sim and see if I can modify the Mobile network settings.
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I tried another Sprint SIM, multiple factory resets and even used the APN reset code provided to me by Sprint which is ##72786#
So far no go. At this point I am now climbing the executive branches on AT&T, LG, and Sprint to get a resolution. My phone worked Sunday. Someone pushed the update and that organization is responsible for the downfall of the device and it is that company's responsibility to fix it. if I don't receive adequate resolution from any party then I will just hire a lawyer to deal with it but we're not at that point yet. AT&T has yet to respond at all which is disturbing since I am a current and very long running customer (going back to the PacBell days). Maybe AT&T just doesn't care anymore. Hard to say. As far as Sprint goes they have at least been willing to respond and at least try to diagnose the issue in attempt of a resolution. So while their voice/data platform sucks I have to give them credit on the customer service side even though some of their staff are uneducated in knowledge regarding the equipment at which they deal with and manage. At this time this is what Sprint speculates the issue to be:
From what I am showing, not all carriers have launched the Oreo update on their LG V30 devices. Which is mostly likely the reason you have mobile network options with a Sprint SIM in the device. You will need to contact LG to see if they can give you additional information on how to get the previous software on the device, or contact your current carrier to verify any information on Oreo update. -YF
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So I am now awaiting to hear anything from AT&T and or LG.
Another thought I had is that since I now have a AT&T branded Samsung S9+, I was going to use it for personal and the V30+ for IT/Work. I guess I could just get a subscription on Sprint and just be done with it all. The company I work for is reimbursing me for the bill so perhaps I should just forget it and just go that route. It would be much cheaper route to go for sure. As I think more about the possible mismatch of the update between carriers the more it kinda makes sense as AT&T has always been very slow to adopting to newer ROM upgrades. I used to get irritated over the fact that everybody else got updates way before I ever did and the bottleneck was on the side of AT&T. I'll just consider it to be a $800 work phone. Yeah..... Trying to find my Zen.
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is the unlock from Sprint or another service provider?
datrmon said:
is the unlock from Sprint or another service provider?
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The carrier unlock is done on the Sprint network side according to their support people. I guess that's why they were having me put my old Sprint SIM card and resetting the APN settings.
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DAmn!
I should have read here first.
i was unlocked on Nougat no longer unlocked on 8.0.0.
I have put in a few calls to Our friends at Sprint International to see if they can resend the Unlock from their side.
Okay...I need a third-party that can unlock my ls998 for me.
JWnSC said:
Sorry to hear man. I'm having the same issues. Asked the same questions as well before unlocking. It was unlocked on nougat but relocked after Oreo update. Before the update, they told me the unlock is permanent and that a factory reset or firmware update wouldn't change it. I called, they said "your device is unlocked" which is bs. I'm still trying to get this issue resolved. Thought I was the only one having this issue. Sprint shenanigans...
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HAve you had any luck?
I have two tickets in on this same issue.,they keep making me wait.
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datrmon said:
Okay...I need a third-party that can unlock my ls998 for me.
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i used LG SIMunlock..
others on XDA had good results it did not work for me.
I ended up reactivating my old Sprint account so I won't have an expensive paper weight. The lgsimunlock did not change anything on the device as the APN was still grayed out upon installation of the AT&T SIM. Sprint keeps telling me that my phone is unlocked. Sprint speculates the issue to with the service policy on AT&T network not being Oreo ready and while it sounds plausible I have no evidence either way. Right now I'm going to try to satisfy the 50 day service requirement again and see if anything magically changes. I still have to go to the AT&T store to see if there is anything more they can do as I had to buy a new phone to get passed this issue and not be offline since I'm on call 24/7. My new Samsung S9+ is AT&T to ensure that I won't have this issue moving forward. If AT&T would stop snubbing us IT guys with weak devices then I wouldn't have gone to Sprint for the 128G internal storage that the V30+ offered. A few days ago I read about someone buying the unlocked V30+ direct from LG and yet they are having trouble getting it to work on Sprint's network which makes me a tad concerned when it comes to device/carrier compatibility.
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I got my sprint lg v30+ carrier unlocked yesterday and now working with cricket
lzambrano87 said:
I got my sprint lg v30+ carrier unlocked yesterday and now working with cricket
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Which service did you use to unlock your phone. Mine is still Locked
I just got a brand spankin' new ("fair" condition scratch & dent, from ebay for dirt cheap) AT&T version, H931. Used the 15% off ebay coupon and got it for so cheap that it's not even fair. Along with that, I snagged the Sprint BYOD free 1-year service deal, so I'm living large obviously. I activated the plan initially on my now-dormant Essential phone, and as soon as I can go to the store and get the correct SIM for this V30, I'll be swapping them out on my line.
But here's what I'm confused on, both as a new Sprint customer and V30 owner. First of all, I'm amazed at how unreasonably uptight Sprint is with what phones they let on their network. Aside from that, I'm also really impressed with the V30's chameleon-like ability to be flashed to another carrier's firmware, and be completely functionally identical. Never seen another android phone do that... which is why I'm a little out of my element here, because I'm sure Sprint will be the ones to ruin the fun somehow.
Has anyone had experience using their V30 on Sprint and can tell me the following:
1. How are the Sprint bands on the US998 firmware - aren't there some missing?
If so, is it considered a good idea and just better overall to flash specifically to the sprint LS998 firmware?
Are there any risks with that, like potentially giving Sprint more power over your device (i.e. SIM-locking it or blacklisting the device's IMEI or something globally, regardless of whether you flash it back to US998 or one of the other carriers' firmware)
2. If you were to activate your V30 on Sprint, and then later on flashed a different firmware, would they see it as a different device altogether, and force you to pay the activation fee in order to get it back on again? Or is it just tied to the IMEI, no matter what firmware you're on (say you flashed a stock LS998 to the unlocked US998 using the Frankenstein method)
3. Also, I didn't back up my modemst1/modemst2 files before I flashed over from H931. Didn't think it mattered since I could just flash back to the H931 someday, but are those files unique to my particular device/IMEI?
if so, should I stop what I'm doing and fix it before I go any further with flashing LS998 or activating it on Sprint or any of that? How bad is it that I didn't make a backup, and is there anything that can be done now?
I just want to make sure I've got everything right before I go in tomorrow and sacrifice my new phone to the angry Sprint gods. Especially since eventually, when I go to sell it when I upgrade again, I'll probably want to flash it back to the H931 firmware with no problems from Sprint claiming lordship over it. I'm already astonished enough that I'm going to have to shell out $30 just to switch the device on my line.
jDally987 said:
AT&T version, H931. Used the 15% off ebay coupon and got it for so cheap that it's not even fair. Along with that, I snagged the Sprint BYOD free 1-year service deal, so I'm living large obviously. I activated the plan initially on my now-dormant Essential phone, and as soon as I can go to the store and get the correct SIM for this V30, I'll be swapping them out on my line.
But here's what I'm confused on, both as a new Sprint customer and V30 owner. First of all, I'm amazed at how unreasonably uptight Sprint is with what phones they let on their network. Aside from that, I'm also really impressed with the V30's chameleon-like ability to be flashed to another carrier's firmware, and be completely functionally identical. Never seen another android phone do that... which is why I'm a little out of my element here, because I'm sure Sprint will be the ones to ruin the fun somehow.
Has anyone had experience using their V30 on Sprint and can tell me the following:
1. How are the Sprint bands on the US998 firmware - aren't there some missing?
If so, is it considered a good idea and just better overall to flash specifically to the sprint LS998 firmware?
Are there any risks with that, like potentially giving Sprint more power over your device (i.e. SIM-locking it or blacklisting the device's IMEI or something globally, regardless of whether you flash it back to US998 or one of the other carriers' firmware)
2. If you were to activate your V30 on Sprint, and then later on flashed a different firmware, would they see it as a different device altogether, and force you to pay the activation fee in order to get it back on again? Or is it just tied to the IMEI, no matter what firmware you're on (say you flashed a stock LS998 to the unlocked US998 using the Frankenstein method)
3. Also, I didn't back up my modemst1/modemst2 files before I flashed over from H931. Didn't think it mattered since I could just flash back to the H931 someday, but are those files unique to my particular device/IMEI?
if so, should I stop what I'm doing and fix it before I go any further with flashing LS998 or activating it on Sprint or any of that? How bad is it that I didn't make a backup, and is there anything that can be done now?
I just want to make sure I've got everything right before I go in tomorrow and sacrifice my new phone to the angry Sprint gods. Especially since eventually, when I go to sell it when I upgrade again, I'll probably want to flash it back to the H931 firmware with no problems from Sprint claiming lordship over it. I'm already astonished enough that I'm going to have to shell out $30 just to switch the device on my line.
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Wow you are asking a lot of questions, and that's a lot of typing to answer.
I'm not a big fan of Sprint. Most people try to get away from them, not run towards them. That's how Frankenstein method was perfected, everyone with "cheap" locked-down LS998 trying carrier unlock their phones. Or people with AT&T H931 who didn't have AT&T and wanted updates. Figured out how to flash them with carrier unlocked firmware like US998, AS998, H933 -- or even flash to Verizon VS996 (which is not carrier locked to Verizon). However, then with WTF bootloader unlock method, you needed fastboot flash commands -- and of ALL the North American variants, only US998 has that. But originally Frankenstein was basically just to carrier unlock AT&T H931 and Sprint US998 phones...
You may be a world of trouble with Sprint. Your saving grace may be you can activate on Essential, then swap the SIM card to your H931/US998/LS998 phone once you have bootloader unlocked, rooted and flashed the LS998 zip file to "convert" it to LS998.
There are others who do use US998 firmware, but have merely flashed the Sprint modems to get all the Sprint bands. And they populate the Sprint APN. There's a big Sprint thread that details all that. But ALL of them had to first activate their LS998 prior to doing anything with bootloader unlock, TWRP, etc. One guy managed to do it after the fact but it took three pages of help. These are people with original LS998. No one that I am aware of has done it with a model that was not originally LS998.
But I'll repeat -- Your saving grace may be you can activate on Essential, then swap the SIM card to your H931/US998/LS998 phone once you have bootloader unlocked, rooted and flashed the LS998 zip file to "convert" it to LS998. Those other people didn't have another phone to activate (if I understand Sprint thinking, which I may not).
1. How are the Sprint bands on the US998 firmware - aren't there some missing?
Yes, there are two bands missing. Depending on where you live that may not be important. But you can flash Sprint modem, while keeping US998 firmware. Or you can fully flash to LS998 zip file to convert to LS998 while keeping TWRP and root.
4. Especially since eventually, when I go to sell it when I upgrade again, I'll probably want to flash it back to the H931 firmware with no problems from Sprint claiming lordship over it.
AT&T, like Sprint, does not publicly release their KDZ firmware. While you can flash back to H931 stock "ROM" via TWRP, then you lose fastboot flash commands -- so you cannot lock back bootloader and how do you get rid of TWRP? When you even go to sell it, best to sell it as US998. You can relock bootloader and flash full stock KDZ. There's TONS of former LS998 V30+ being sold on eBay as US998. Already Frankensteined by the sellers, and they are carrier unlocked.
3. Also, I didn't back up my modemst1/modemst2 files before I flashed over from H931. Didn't think it mattered since I could just flash back to the H931 someday, but are those files unique to my particular device/IMEI?
Doesn't matter. You can always flash to US998 to get those US998 bands, you can flash back to H931 via TWRP with stock ROM if you want those bands back. Flashing to LS998 ZIP file will give you those bands. The one thing you probably can't do after you start is completely restore the H931 to full stock with bootloader locked back. But that's no big deal, for selling on eBay. Just sell as US998. It's more versatile anyway and has fastboot flash commands. I'm an AT&T customer for 7 years and I've NEVER owned an AT&T branded phone.
2. If you were to activate your V30 on Sprint, and then later on flashed a different firmware, would they see it as a different device altogether, and force you to pay the activation fee in order to get it back on again? Or is it just tied to the IMEI, no matter what firmware you're on (say you flashed a stock LS998 to the unlocked US998 using the Frankenstein method)
The only people I can answer for is Sprint customers who had original LS998, activated them -- converted to US998, unlocked bootloader, installed TWRP and rooted, and then still continued to use their devices on Sprint. To still use devices on Sprint, some used TWRP-flashable zip file to convert back to LS998 while still keeping TWRP and root. Others just kept US998 firmware but flashed Sprint modems. Others have flashed AOSP custom ROMs, but had to use Sprint APN and maybe Sprint modem.
I don't want to discourage you. You may be able to get away with this, but only because your ace is the Essential phone. Activate that first. Then, do all the stuff for the H931/US998/LS998 conversion (including bootloader unlock, root). Put the SIM card in, then see if it works. If it doesn't, then what people have found is TELEPHONE help is the best. If you go to a store, they will immediately see you do not have a Sprint LS998. Whereas over the telephone, you can tell them you have LS998, the firmware version, etc, and it's often off-shore service who may not care it's not really Sprint hardware, if the firmware matches....
Good luck!
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I don't want to discourage you. You may be able to get away with this, but only because your ace is the Essential phone. Activate that first. Then, do all the stuff for the H931/US998/LS998 conversion (including bootloader unlock, root). Put the SIM card in, then see if it works. If it doesn't, then what people have found is TELEPHONE help is the best. If you go to a store, they will immediately see you do not have a Sprint LS998. Whereas over the telephone, you can tell them you have LS998, the firmware version, etc, and it's often off-shore service who may not care it's not really Sprint hardware, if the firmware matches....
Good luck!
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Wow, amazing. Wish I could hit the thanks button 10 times.
So it looks like my best bet is to just flash the LS998 KDZ and then body slam my SIM into it (I’m already activated on the Essential and it does look like they take the same specific SIM model, hallelujah)
I knew I was making a deal with the devil from the start when I took Sprint. Just that I’m pretty low on money right now, and a year of unlimited data service for free was just too good to pass up. I’m planning on moving state before too long, so when I have more income I might just drop sprint like a hot potato long before they cut me off (which is January 2020)
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Wow, amazing. Wish I could hit the thanks button 10 times.
So it looks like my best bet is to just flash the LS998 KDZ and then body slam my SIM into it (I’m already activated on the Essential and it does look like they take the same specific SIM model, hallelujah)
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Yes.
And I have tons of other posts you can thank. You can find posts via my profile link. Regrettably, you're limited to 15 thanks per day...
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Update for anyone interested; it did not work. I flashed the Sprint 21a update .zip in TWRP, stuck my pre-activated SIM in, and it failed to register on the network. Tried updating PRL/Profile and everything, nothing worked (I'm not too surprised). Just to make sure, I got on the chat with a Sprint rep and as soon as I gave them my IMEI, they said it couldn't be activated on Sprint for BYOD.
Funnily enough, after a while of the phone trying to get the SIM to connect, it suddenly locked it and told me to restart and basically good luck, chump. So when I stuck it back in my Essential, already defeated enough, it suddenly borked my phone number and I couldn't get service again till I reset the PRL/Profile on that, and turned the phone off for 2 minutes.
Yeah, sprint is a huge hassle. Good lord
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nothing worked (I'm not too surprised). Just to make sure, I got on the chat with a Sprint rep and as soon as I gave them my IMEI, they said it couldn't be activated on Sprint for BYOD.
Yeah, sprint is a huge hassle. Good lord
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Sorry it didn't work. Gave you all the ideas I could, but just blame Sprint.
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Just to make sure, I got on the chat with a Sprint rep and as soon as I gave them my IMEI, they said it couldn't be activated on Sprint for BYOD.
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Just curious, did the rep deny activation because it's not an original LS998 or is it possible that the IMEI has been blacklisted?
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Just curious, did the rep deny activation because it's not an original LS998 or is it possible that the IMEI has been blacklisted?
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Not sure if you mean blacklisted by Sprint only, or in general for all carriers (like you'd see on the Swappa ESN check or something). If the latter, then no, I checked it on multiple sites and they all said clear for activation. The AT&T model is GSM unlocked by default, so that makes sense.
All the guy said at Sprint was that my phone wasn't BYOD-compatible. I'm pretty sure they have a whitelist instead, and only put phones that are sprint-branded on it. Then if you call them up they'll activate unlocked devices for you, but my particular H931 probably shows up as GSM-unlocked (originally from AT&T) and thus not compatible. (even though technically, software-wise, it would be since I flashed the right bands on it)
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Not sure if you mean blacklisted by Sprint only, or in general for all carriers (like you'd see on the Swappa ESN check or something). If the latter, then no, I checked it on multiple sites and they all said clear for activation. The AT&T model is GSM unlocked by default, so that makes sense.
All the guy said at Sprint was that my phone wasn't BYOD-compatible. I'm pretty sure they have a whitelist instead, and only put phones that are sprint-branded on it. Then if you call them up they'll activate unlocked devices for you, but my particular H931 probably shows up as GSM-unlocked (originally from AT&T) and thus not compatible. (even though technically, software-wise, it would be since I flashed the right bands on it)
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Thing is, Sprint won't even take "original" (no Frankenstein) open market (B&H Photo) US998, even though it's the official carrier unlocked LG V30.
Hi all - long time lurker, first time poster. Big thanks to this community for helping me with random roots throughout the years, but I've come across something I can't quite find definitive answers on and need some assistance.
A few months ago I finally took the plunge and unlocked/rooted my AT&T h931. This was by far the most complicated root I've ever done, but I got it done. As most know, this requires first converting my h931 to a carrier unlocked US998, and then proceeding as usual. I followed this amazing thread on Reddit that someone put together based on a bunch of different threads here on XDA.
So I've now decided I want to buy a 1+7 Pro and want to take advantage of their trade-in program, so I'd like to get the phone back to stock and unroot/relock it all up. I found a solid thread here but because of my special circumstances I'm concerned there will be a bit more to it. The phone has the AT&T logo on the back, so if 1+ gets it and it's an unlocked 998, I'm not sure they'd give me and money for it. Without getting too into the weeds, I just want to know if anyone has advice or can point me to a post detailing this specific circumstance. Do I need to re-convert to a h931 before relocking? If I go back to stock/relock as a 998, will AT&T still work alright? I just don't want to mess something up and brick my phone.
Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone!
To my understanding, AT&T doesn't share KDZs anywhere, so I don't think it's possible to convert your phone back to H931. I could be wrong.
Otherwise the general steps would be:
1) Revert to stock by flashing US998 KDZ with LGUP in refurbish mode. Phone must be completely stock before relocking the bootloader.
2) Boot into fastboot mode and relock bootloader with fastboot oem lock.
3) Flash the carrier firmware KDZ with LGUP in refurbish mode. Again, in the case of AT&T I don't think it exists.
The reason for this sequence is that the carrier firmware may not allow fastboot.
Edit: Oh, of course if H932 users should see this: Do NOT ever flash the US998 KDZ. Just flash the latest H932 KDZ and use that to relock the bootloader.
AT&T doesn't release KDZ... you can't go back to stock...
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AT&T doesn't release KDZ... you can't go back to stock...
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Right. But a mint US998 can be sold on eBay for $160-$170 right now...
There's your trade in value, in cash.
WTF REDDIT THREAD
protagonest said:
A few months ago I finally took the plunge and unlocked/rooted my AT&T h931. This was by far the most complicated root I've ever done, but I got it done. As most know, this requires first converting my h931 to a carrier unlocked US998, and then proceeding as usual. I followed this amazing thread on Reddit that someone put together based on a bunch of different threads here on XDA.
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Interesting. I recognize my own words throughout most of it, of course -- with same emphasis I use.
Update H931 (AT&T) to Android Pie! (Walkthrough)
This is just the "bootloader unlock warning" screen. It's just a scary picture LG shows you as the phone boots to discourage you from unlocking your bootloader. Ignore it. It will NOT prevent you from doing anything.
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I see they got a "Platinum" award on Reddit?
Well, at least they gave me credit! They combined my Frankenstein and WTF instructions, but focused on H931 and stripped out all the stuff that applied to other V30 variants. (Which is why WTF is like a decision tree -- if you have this variant do X, if you have that variant do Y -- until in Section 5 everyone ends up at the same bootloader unlock "starting line" with fastboot flash commands and early Oreo firmware.)
Everything is cool. They gave me credit and asked people to hit thanks button several times for me here on XDA in return. :good:
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However, the rest of their walkthrough is about custom ROMs, and they credited two other worthy people for that section.
In neither Frankenstein nor WTF, I do not really mention custom ROMs. Because that's not the purpose of either thread.
Frankenstein is to convert your phone to another North American V30 variants -- either to carrier unlock your phone or to instill fastboot flash commands, or both.
For WTF -- it's to unlock your V30 bootloader, install TWRP and get you rooted. (So, some phones like H931 need to take a side trip to Frankenstein thread, but other phones like H930 or H930DS don't need that, as they already have fastboot flash commands.)
Only in the Root Sticky I wrote, I warn H931/H933 takes "extra prep work" for custom ROMs and that all phones should be updated back to latest stock firmware prior to installing custom ROMs. If they have H931/H933, I leave it to them to find out more, as I don't want to scare them off.
Someone once mentioned doing something like this guy did on Reddit thread for ALL V30 variants -- one bootloader unlock/root thread for each variant. US998, H931, H933, LS998, VS996, H930, H930D, H930G, H930DS, AS998, H932 (both T-mobile and Puerto Rico), and that's not even mentioning the Korean variants! But that would be severe overkill and a lot of redundancy. The way WTF is designed, it can handle EVERY V30 on the planet (except for T-mobile H932), as long as you follow decision tree choices. There is a separate thread for T-mobile H932, because it's separate procedure involving a Linux boot disc and other stuff.
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Oh, to the last guy asking questions in that Reddit thread? (duplicate questions) Tell him in Frankenstein conversion, he either didn't do a Master Reset after flashing to Nougat (not following all the steps) or he mistakenly flashed Oreo US998 first, probably thinking they didn't need to flash Nougat (not following all the steps). That's why his phone is bootlooping.
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Interesting. I recognize my own words throughout most of it, of course -- with same emphasis I use.
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Thanks for all your hard work on this stuff ChazzMatt! This guy simply streamlined all the work you did specifically for the H931 variant, which was what I needed.
Thanks for the heads up about selling the US998 on Ebay... I hadn't really considered that, but will definitely look deeper into it now. So I could basically just flash a stock image for the US998 and call it good, yeah? Do most interested parties on Ebay prefer these phones remain rooted/unlocked in your (or anyone's) experience?
Thanks for your input all.
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Thanks for all your hard work on this stuff ChazzMatt! This guy simply streamlined all the work you did specifically for the H931 variant, which was what I needed.
Thanks for the heads up about selling the US998 on Ebay... I hadn't really considered that, but will definitely look deeper into it now. So I could basically just flash a stock image for the US998 and call it good, yeah? Do most interested parties on Ebay prefer these phones remain rooted/unlocked in your (or anyone's) experience?
Thanks for your input all.
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Vast majority prefer carrier unlocked phones, not necessary bootloader unlocked and rooted. With the scary bootloader unlock warning about "possible corruption" just best to re- lock bootloader before selling it.
Flash to US998 20H, then relock bootloader.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
but users will not get OTA updates when they convert the h931 to US998 they will report the seller
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but users will not get OTA updates when they convert the h931 to US998 they will report the seller
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And that is exactly correct. It won't get updates as a 998 nor as a used-to-be 931. While yes, of course, some people will understand that and know how to apply an update, **THE VAST MAJORITY** of buyers WILL NOT.
Given that limitation, be sure you state that specifically when selling it. As Dinou says, ebay will be on yer butt otherwise.
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No they won't report the seller.
None of the LS998 to US998 sold on eBay all the time get OTA updates.
All the US998 V30+ being sold by dealers are former LS998.
No one is reported. The dealer has 99.9 approval rating.
That's the only way to carrier unlock an LS998. I bought one US998 new in box from Wal-Mart, and it's former LS998 converted to US998.
Same with H931.
And it's the only way you're going to be able to sell it. I mean, you can convert to VS996 or H933, but same thing. US998 is the best choice.
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No they won't report the seller.
None of the LS998 to US998 sold on eBay all the time get OTA updates.
All the US998 V30+ being sold by dealers are former LS998.
No one is reported. The dealer has 99.9 approval rating.
That's the only way to carrier unlock an LS998. I bought one US998 new in box from Wal-Mart, and it's former LS998 converted to US998.
Same with H931.
And it's the only way you're going to be able to sell it. I mean, you can convert to VS996 or H933, but same thing. US998 is the best choice.
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If you want to sell it on eBay you have to explain that the phone is really a H931 running US998 firmware. If not, the buyer can just return the phone for a full refund after he finds out the phone isn't a US998 which will be easy since H931 has a AT&T logo.
You'd have to pay for the return shipping, eat the original shipping cost, and still have to pay eBay fees...
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If you want to sell it on eBay you have to explain that the phone is really a H931 running US998 firmware. If not, the buyer can just return the phone for a full refund after he finds out the phone isn't a US998 which will be easy since H931 has a AT&T logo.
You'd have to pay for the return shipping, eat the original shipping cost, and still have to pay eBay fees...
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That doesn't happen with the other Frankenstein converted eBay US998.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...rentrq:0d41f53c16c0a99b185ac3adfff8628c|iid:1
All these V30+ are former LS998 V30+, now converted to US998.
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That doesn't happen with the other Frankenstein converted eBay US998.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...rentrq:0d41f53c16c0a99b185ac3adfff8628c|iid:1
All these V30+ are former LS998 V30+, now converted to US998.
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Like I've said... if the buyer finds out that the phone is not a real US998 and wants to return it then the seller has to cover return shipping and issue a full refund.
If not, the buyer can file a dispute stating item not as described and the seller will be forced to take it back...
The simplest answer to all this is of course simple: be honest in the ad, list every piece of relevant information and that way if there's any kind of claim for any reason other than "It's dead on arrival, Jim..." protects you (or whoever) as the seller.
It can't be stressed enough really to put ALL the relevant info in the ad, be 100% honest about everything:
- be honest that's its originally an AT&T H931
- be honest that the bootloader was unlocked and that message will appear each time the device is powered on from a cold start
- be honest that it has a clean IMEI with no leins/not reported stolen/not reported lost (but don't provide the IMEI directly, that can be provided in a PM if necessary using eBay's message system if a potential buyer wants it)
- be honest that it was converted to becoming a US Cellular US998 in every respect except for it being a true US998 hardware-wise
- be honest that it will not get OTA updates for future releases of Android (if they'd come out) and might not get security fixes or patches either because of that conversion
- be honest and say the condition and mention every single scratch or scuff or mark on it, take plenty of decent pics, show the Settings page, etc
- be honest about what's included
- be honest and just flat out say "If you decide to make this purchase, you do so understanding everything that's been stated in this ad and accept this prior to the purchase, after which there will be no refunds except for the item being literally DOA and non-functional" or words to that effect and clearly state "SOLD AS-IS" in the ad listing at least once and not buried someplace a the very bottom or whatever
If you don't do anything that can be perceived as being deceptive then eBay (and whatever payment processing service you use) will more than likely side with you, the seller, should an issue arise - if it's truly DOA for whatever reason you're going to have to issue a refund regardless, but I don't think that most people would damage or break something intentionally just to get that refund. This basic idea of being honest about it to as many degrees as you possibly can ensures that you'll only be selling to someone that really understands what it is and if they don't, your listing told them ahead of time so that responsibility is now not on you for them being ignorant.
You can't really do much more than this, so either get to it and sell it on eBay with these kinds of guidelines or keep it and maybe sell it locally, either way, good luck.
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Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone!
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Flashing the stock h931 rom will get you close but the BL will still be unlocked(but there is no message on bootup). It has the stock att boot animation.
Notes:
It wipes your internal storage when flashing.
OTA will no longer work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/lg-v30-att-h931-20f-rom-t3872926
br0adband said:
The simplest answer to all this is of course simple: be honest in the ad, list every piece of relevant information and that way if there's any kind of claim for any reason other than "It's dead on arrival, Jim..." protects you (or whoever) as the seller.
It can't be stressed enough really to put ALL the relevant info in the ad, be 100% honest about everything:
- be honest that's its originally an AT&T H931
- be honest that the bootloader was unlocked and that message will appear each time the device is powered on from a cold start
- be honest that it has a clean IMEI with no leins/not reported stolen/not reported lost (but don't provide the IMEI directly, that can be provided in a PM if necessary using eBay's message system if a potential buyer wants it)
- be honest that it was converted to becoming a US Cellular US998 in every respect except for it being a true US998 hardware-wise
- be honest that it will not get OTA updates for future releases of Android (if they'd come out) and might not get security fixes or patches either because of that conversion
- be honest and say the condition and mention every single scratch or scuff or mark on it, take plenty of decent pics, show the Settings page, etc
- be honest about what's included
- be honest and just flat out say "If you decide to make this purchase, you do so understanding everything that's been stated in this ad and accept this prior to the purchase, after which there will be no refunds except for the item being literally DOA and non-functional" or words to that effect and clearly state "SOLD AS-IS" in the ad listing at least once and not buried someplace a the very bottom or whatever
If you don't do anything that can be perceived as being deceptive then eBay (and whatever payment processing service you use) will more than likely side with you, the seller, should an issue arise - if it's truly DOA for whatever reason you're going to have to issue a refund regardless, but I don't think that most people would damage or break something intentionally just to get that refund. This basic idea of being honest about it to as many degrees as you possibly can ensures that you'll only be selling to someone that really understands what it is and if they don't, your listing told them ahead of time so that responsibility is now not on you for them being ignorant.
You can't really do much more than this, so either get to it and sell it on eBay with these kinds of guidelines or keep it and maybe sell it locally, either way, good luck.
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H931, H933, VS996, and US998 all have the exact same hardware...
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H931, H933, VS996, and US998 all have the exact same hardware...
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The AT&T H931 does not have a CDMA radio in it, neither does the H933 (the Rogers Wireless aka Canadian version) so no, they're not the same as the actual US998 hardware which does have both CDMA and GSM radios in it. As my sig clearly states, I have an H931 converted to a US998 and I can't use it with Sprint or Verizon since it doesn't have a CDMA radio in it so, no, they're not all the exact same hardware.
The VS996 is designed to work with Verizon which is a CDMA carrier so that one does have a CDMA radio in it but it offers slightly different LTE band coverage (some of the other bands for AT&T and T-Mobile are covered as roaming bands).
Each model has something different from the others based on what the carriers tell LG to do with them at the factory, which is why I said what I said.
The T-Mobile LG V30 H932 is the only one that has hardware support for LTE band 71 too so, again, something different for every model.
You can't go wrong with being honest -- except you may not get the sale on eBay, where dozens other V30s are listed as New or Mint, even though we all know they're Frankenphones. Those sellers are probably willing to absorb a few returns because they bought them by the truckload for $30 each.
Why not just just flash US998 KDZ and relock the bootloader, then see if OnePlus will accept the trade-in? That's what you wanted originally, right?
They're looking for a sale, so they're motivated. And if they DON'T accept the trade-in, then you can worry about selling it on eBay.
That's really what I assumed would be your takeaway from my original reply (post #2).
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Like I've said... if the buyer finds out that the phone is not a real US998 and wants to return it then the seller has to cover return shipping and issue a full refund.
If not, the buyer can file a dispute stating item not as described and the seller will be forced to take it back...
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Like I've said, former LS998 are sold every day on eBay as US998 BECAUSE THEY NOW ARE US998 and it's not an issue.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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br0adband said:
I have an H931 converted to a US998 and I can't use it with Sprint or Verizon since it doesn't have a CDMA radio in it so, no, they're not all the exact same hardware.
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You DO have CDMA radio if you converted your H931 to US998. You can't use it on Sprint and Verizon because neither will take an H931 -- NOT because your NOW-US998 doesn't have CDMA.
Sprint won't even take US998 as they only take their own branded LS998 (which is why you have to activate LS998 on Sprint BEFORE Frankenstein, bootloader unlock and root).
Verizon conversely looks only at IMEI, and they see it as H931 even if it's now US998 with CDMA. Be interesting to see what happens when Verizon DROPS CDMA end of this year!
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br0adband said:
It can't be stressed enough really to put ALL the relevant info in the ad, be 100% honest about everything:
- be honest that's its originally an AT&T H931
- be honest that the bootloader was unlocked and that message will appear each time the device is powered on from a cold start
- be honest that it was converted to becoming a US Cellular US998 in every respect except for it being a true US998 hardware-wise
clearly state "SOLD AS-IS" in the ad listing .
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It was converted to Open Market US998. DON'T call it "U.S. Cellular" US998. It's NOT. Many U.S. Cellular phones are carrier locked, and U.S. Cellular only takes phones they sell -- so if a U.S. Cellular customer bought it they would be disappointed.
NO, the bootloader unlock warning will not appear because he's going to lock it back.
Yes, clearly state no refunds.
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It's not hard to sell the phone on eBay. Reading through these comments a lot of you guys act like you've never bought or sold on eBay before...
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TheDannemand said:
You can't go wrong with being honest -- except you may not get the sale on eBay, where dozens other V30s are listed as New or Mint, even though we all know they're Frankenphones. Those sellers are probably willing to absorb a few returns because they bought them by the truckload for $30 each.
Why not just just flash US998 KDZ and relock the bootloader, then see if OnePlus will accept the trade-in? That's what you wanted originally, right?
They're looking for a sale, so they're motivated. And if they DON'T accept the trade-in, then you can worry about selling it on eBay.
That's really what I assumed would be your takeaway from my original reply (post #2).
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Thank you for bringing some clarity to the discussion.
Yes, relock the bootloader and try the trade in. OnePlus isn't going to look at it that carefully, except to verify it's working. They're immediately going to turn around and WHOLESALE to an eBay dealer -- WHO WILL SELL IT ON EBAY.
The eBay dealer will probably swap out the back panel to get rid of the AT&T logo. It'll be sold as US998, which is what it is.
br0adband said:
The AT&T H931 does not have a CDMA radio in it, neither does the H933 (the Rogers Wireless aka Canadian version) so no, they're not the same as the actual US998 hardware which does have both CDMA and GSM radios in it. As my sig clearly states, I have an H931 converted to a US998 and I can't use it with Sprint or Verizon since it doesn't have a CDMA radio in it so, no, they're not all the exact same hardware.
The VS996 is designed to work with Verizon which is a CDMA carrier so that one does have a CDMA radio in it but it offers slightly different LTE band coverage (some of the other bands for AT&T and T-Mobile are covered as roaming bands).
Each model has something different from the others based on what the carriers tell LG to do with them at the factory, which is why I said what I said.
The T-Mobile LG V30 H932 is the only one that has hardware support for LTE band 71 too so, again, something different for every model.
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H931 does have CDMA radio... I don't know where you are getting your information from... but like I've said... the four models I listed all have the exact same hardware...
You are confusing hardware compatibility with carrier policy...
I didn't say anything about H932...
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ChazzMatt said:
Like I've said, former LS998 are sold every day on eBay as US998 BECAUSE THEY NOW ARE US998 and it's not an issue.
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How do you know it's not an issue? How do you know what is happening between the buyers and sellers on eBay? How do you know how many phones were returned... partial refunds given... or disputes filed? You don't...
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It's not hard to sell the phone on eBay. Reading through these comments a lot of you guys act like you've never bought or sold on eBay before...
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Actually... you are acting like you've never done anything on eBay... if you sell a crossflashed phone and you don't state it's crossflashed... you'd have 0% chance of winning the dispute... absolutely 0%...
I have this tmobile version which i bought from a store as a 2nd hand. For the first 1 month the SIM card (carrier) worked, after the 1st month it shows (network locked) I used their app to unlock permanently and ofc it says "Not eligible" the other option is temporarily for another 1 month.
And now it has been expired and cant use the sim card again.
Any solution on how to unlock it ?
It was written up a few months ago here on XDA, but removed because it's a paid solution. You have to find the guy who can spoof your H932 to another T-mobile model number, then use T-mobile's servers to unlock it. And I think you have to temporarily downgrade your T-mobile H932 to Nougat for all that to work.
Only T-mobile servers can unlock current T-mobile phones. If anyone tries to sell you a "code" that works right now for your V30, you are wasting your money.
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It was written up a few months ago here on XDA, but removed because it's a paid solution. You have to find the guy who can spoof your H932 to another T-mobile model number, then use T-mobile's servers to unlock it. And I think you have to temporarily downgrade your T-mobile H932 to Nougat for all that to work.
Only T-mobile servers can unlock current T-mobile phones. If anyone tries to sell you a "code" that works right now for your V30, you are wasting your money.
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I didn't realize that thread had been deleted about a 3rd party service which unlocks T-Mobile phones. That's too bad since there are many legitimate scenarios where users need that to unlock a fully paid off phone.
@STALKER18: I seem to recall the service was called TMB Killer, but could be wrong. Try googling that and see what you get. No guarantees!
As ChazzMatt wrote, TMO phones can NOT be unlocked with a code like other phones, so don't believe anybody trying to sell you that.
Thank you for sharing that. That's on a T-Mobile H932, not some other V30 model, right?
Sorry to ask, I just want to make sure, since it's a completely different game with those T-Mobile phones.
What was the procedure? Did they connect remotely through your PC or what?
Thanks again.
Edit: A few spammers posting about unlocking services have been killed and their posts removed, including the one referred to in this post. H932 owners (and arguably everybody) should avoid the service mentioned here.
Thank you.
Was it T-Mobile H932 (which requires a special procedure connecting to TMO servers) or some other V30 model (which can be unlocked with a simple code)?
I'll keep asking this question because many 3rd party services sell codes -- and happily promote themselves with links on these forums -- but they don't work with H932.
So unless somebody specifically reports unlocking a H932, I'll assume it was just a simple code (again, which doesn't work on H932).
With several posters now having reported unlocking with the service you mention, but none of them confirming it's for H932, even when asked, I'm getting a bit suspicious, thinking this is a service H932 owners should avoid
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OK, seeing as you posted in three different threads about unlocking three different phones in the last 24 hours using this service, I am going to assume this was just spam to promote them. Being a spammer, I assume these lg/samsung simunlock DotCom guys (link obfuscated) would also happily take money from H932 owners, even though they cannot actually unlock their phones. So I say stay away from them!
If I am wrong, AND you really unlocked those three different phones, AND one of them is indeed a H932, I apologize and will happily update my post.
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OK, seeing as you posted in three different threads about unlocking three different phones in the last 24 hours using this service, I am going to assume this was just spam to promote them. Being a spammer, I assume this www.lgsimunlock.com would also happily take money from H932 owners, even though they cannot actually unlock their phones. So I say stay away from them!
If I am wrong, AND you really unlocked those three different phones, AND one of them is indeed a H932, I apologize and will happily update my post.
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I share your suspicions. Especially since prior to those three posts in the past 24 hours, last time he posted was over a year ago. Maybe he's being helpful all of a sudden? I don't know.
BUT if T-mobile H932, he should know the carrier and model number is very important to state. He wouldn't just say "V30". We can already carrier unlock all the other North American V30 and even the rare H932PR (Puerto Rico) V30 -- by ourselves. Unless the person specifically says "T-mobile H932", I don't trust them to know what they are talking about for SIM card unlocking. I don't even like the title of this thread, as it's not specific enough. (But that's just me, because I know of the H932PR V30, which is completely different animal.)
It's like when people ask in WTF bootloader unlock thread, "Why didn't this work?" And they fail to say what variant and what firmware (especially) they are on. Because if you read the instructions, you know those are the two most important items for it to work. So, anyone would specifically mention that information when asking for help. That makes me very suspicious they haven't really read anything -- and I'm usually right.
EDIT: and magically the spam post from today just above this post is now gone!
I just reported the spammer just above this post. It's going to disappear soon. He posted several times today in different device forums, promoting his various SIM unlocking services.
I almost engaged him, to ask if he had indeed unlocked T-mobile H932 -- then I saw his post history and knew it was useless. Spam bot.
TheDannemand said:
So unless somebody specifically reports unlocking a H932, I'll assume it was just a simple code (again, which doesn't work on H932).
With several posters now having reported unlocking with the service you mention, but none of them confirming it's for H932, even when asked, I'm getting a bit suspicious, thinking this is a service H932 owners should avoid
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OK, seeing as you posted in three different threads about unlocking three different phones in the last 24 hours using this service, I am going to assume this was just spam to promote them. Being a spammer, I assume this www.lgsimunlock.com would also happily take money from H932 owners, even though they cannot actually unlock their phones. So I say stay away from them!
If I am wrong, AND you really unlocked those three different phones, AND one of them is indeed a H932, I apologize and will happily update my post.
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ChazzMatt said:
I just reported the spammer just above this post. It's going to disappear soon. He posted several times today in different device forums, promoting his various SIM unlocking services.
I almost engaged him, to ask if he had indeed unlocked T-mobile H932 -- then I saw his post history and knew it was useless. Spam bot.
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Got it. Yeah they had to be reported sooner or later. I thought of reporting them back then, but figured it would be better to keep the posts here as a warning to avoid that service. They'll still have the SEO benefit, but at least H932 owners who see this would know this is NOT the one to give their money.
@mods: I would say when you weed out the spam, leave the warnings from Chazz and/or myself so that future readers will know to avoid that service.
There was a new one today just above my post today. New user name. He had posted 10 times this morning in various forums, for various brands and models.
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Got it. Yeah they had to be reported sooner or later. I thought of reporting them back then, but figured it would be better to keep the posts here as a warning to avoid that service. They'll still have the SEO benefit, but at least H932 owners who see this would know this is NOT the one to give their money.
@mods: I would say when you weed out the spam, leave the warnings from Chazz and/or myself so that future readers will know to avoid that service.
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There was a new one today just above my post today. New user name. He had posted 10 times this morning in various forums, for various brands and models.
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Finding and killing spammers is one of the more satisfying and popular activities for most moderators. Particularly when you can find them while they are still building and aging accounts, but before actually dropping their payload
TheDannemand said:
I didn't realize that thread had been deleted about a 3rd party service which unlocks T-Mobile phones. That's too bad since there are many legitimate scenarios where users need that to unlock a fully paid off phone.
@STALKER18: I seem to recall the service was called TMB Killer, but could be wrong. Try googling that and see what you get. No guarantees!
As ChazzMatt wrote, TMO phones can NOT be unlocked with a code like other phones, so don't believe anybody trying to sell you that.
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Hi, I used the method which was explained in the deleted thread.
Indeed, it was TMB Killer, and it worked for me.
sickaz said:
Hi, I used the method which was explained in the deleted thread.
Indeed, it was TMB Killer, and it worked for me.
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Awesome, thank you for confirming that!
Edit: Just to make sure, can you confirm it is a H932 you unlocked, and elaborate a little bit on the process? Thanks in advance!
Just before your post was yet another spam post promoting lg/samsung simunlock DotCom (link obfuscated, that post now deleted). We know that those guys are spammers, and probably scammers too. So anybody looking to unlock their phones should avoid them. And H932 owners should definitely avoid them!
jason3331 said:
hello folks, i followed this post because I have a similar problem. I unlocked an LGv40 on the site (spammer!) and it worked but does it work for all models? can anyone confirm this?
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No, the site you mention are spammers and scammers. They can NOT unlock recent (past three years or so) T-Mobile variants which need access to T-Mobile servers. If they claim they can do it, they are lying.
For our V30 the only variant which cannot be carrier unlocked by ourselves via Frankenstein is the T-Mobile H932. You have to find someone who will help you spoof another T-Mobile model number and I think you have to temporarily downgrade to Nougat. It's a little complicated. For T-Mobile phones if someone just offers you a code, they are trying to scam you.
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No, lgsimunlock are spammers and scammers. They can NOT unlock recent (past three years or so) T-Mobile variants which need access to T-Mobile servers. If they claim they can do it, they are lying.
For our V30 the only variant which cannot be carrier unlocked by ourselves via Frankenstein is the T-Mobile H932. You have to find someone who will help you spoof another T-Mobile model number and I think you have to temporarily downgrade to Nougat. It's a little complicated. For T-Mobile phones if someone just offers you a code, they are trying to scam you.
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It's another spammer. They made a number of posts the last 24 hours about using that site to unlock all kinds of phones. I reported them, maybe you did as well. I think their strategy is to post spam often enough to drown out our warnings.
Edit: I live in FL where roaches are always a concern. We keep our kitchen super clean (you have to in this climate) and have generally been without them for years. When occasionally we saw one in the past, they were always the big American Cockroaches. But this summer we began seeing the smaller German Cockroaches, which are notoriously hard to get rid of. Suddenly came out of nowhere. Every time we think we have them beat, another one shows up. And only when we have to get up at night for a sip of water or something. They come out only in the the dark.
Anyways, when people compare spammers to roaches, I have to say the similarity really is striking :laugh:
TheDannemand said:
It's another spammer. They made a number of posts the last 24 hours about using that site to unlock all kinds of phones. I reported them, maybe you did as well. I think their strategy is to post spam often enough to drown out our warnings.
Edit: I live in FL where roaches are always a concern. We keep our kitchen super clean (you have to in this climate) and have generally been without them for years. When occasionally we saw one in the past, they were always the big American Cockroaches. But this summer we began seeing the smaller German Cockroaches, which are notoriously hard to get rid of. Suddenly came out of nowhere. Every time we think we have them beat, another one shows up. And only when we have to get up at night for a sip of water or something. They come out only in the the dark.
Anyways, when people compare spammers to roaches, I have to say the similarity really is striking :laugh:
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I edited my answer to not even use their name.
Thanks for reporting them!
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I edited my answer to not even use their name.
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Oh, I noticed! And as I mentioned in a previous post, I am aware of the SEO benefit they get from me mentioning them in a post. OTOH I also want to warn other members against them, which works best for newcomers if they know who I am warning against
Come to think of it, I can obfuscate the links. Let me do that right away!
TheDannemand said:
Awesome, thank you for confirming that!
Edit: Just to make sure, can you confirm it is a H932 you unlocked, and elaborate a little bit on the process? Thanks in advance!
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Well, I'm sorry, but I don't remember the exact process.
The phone has to be rooted.
If I'm right, I had to edit a file in my H932, to change its name from H932 to H930 (or something like that).
Then I downloaded the TMB killer software on my computer, bought credits, pluged my phone and launched the program.
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Well, I'm sorry, but I don't remember the exact process.
The phone has to be rooted.
If I'm right, I had to edit a file in my H932, to change its name from H932 to H930 (or something like that).
Then I downloaded the TMB killer software on my computer, bought credits, pluged my phone and launched the program.
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Perfect, thank you! Just the kind of description I was looking for. Gives an idea of the process.