Hi all - long time lurker, first time poster. Big thanks to this community for helping me with random roots throughout the years, but I've come across something I can't quite find definitive answers on and need some assistance.
A few months ago I finally took the plunge and unlocked/rooted my AT&T h931. This was by far the most complicated root I've ever done, but I got it done. As most know, this requires first converting my h931 to a carrier unlocked US998, and then proceeding as usual. I followed this amazing thread on Reddit that someone put together based on a bunch of different threads here on XDA.
So I've now decided I want to buy a 1+7 Pro and want to take advantage of their trade-in program, so I'd like to get the phone back to stock and unroot/relock it all up. I found a solid thread here but because of my special circumstances I'm concerned there will be a bit more to it. The phone has the AT&T logo on the back, so if 1+ gets it and it's an unlocked 998, I'm not sure they'd give me and money for it. Without getting too into the weeds, I just want to know if anyone has advice or can point me to a post detailing this specific circumstance. Do I need to re-convert to a h931 before relocking? If I go back to stock/relock as a 998, will AT&T still work alright? I just don't want to mess something up and brick my phone.
Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone!
To my understanding, AT&T doesn't share KDZs anywhere, so I don't think it's possible to convert your phone back to H931. I could be wrong.
Otherwise the general steps would be:
1) Revert to stock by flashing US998 KDZ with LGUP in refurbish mode. Phone must be completely stock before relocking the bootloader.
2) Boot into fastboot mode and relock bootloader with fastboot oem lock.
3) Flash the carrier firmware KDZ with LGUP in refurbish mode. Again, in the case of AT&T I don't think it exists.
The reason for this sequence is that the carrier firmware may not allow fastboot.
Edit: Oh, of course if H932 users should see this: Do NOT ever flash the US998 KDZ. Just flash the latest H932 KDZ and use that to relock the bootloader.
AT&T doesn't release KDZ... you can't go back to stock...
jptV30 said:
AT&T doesn't release KDZ... you can't go back to stock...
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Right. But a mint US998 can be sold on eBay for $160-$170 right now...
There's your trade in value, in cash.
WTF REDDIT THREAD
protagonest said:
A few months ago I finally took the plunge and unlocked/rooted my AT&T h931. This was by far the most complicated root I've ever done, but I got it done. As most know, this requires first converting my h931 to a carrier unlocked US998, and then proceeding as usual. I followed this amazing thread on Reddit that someone put together based on a bunch of different threads here on XDA.
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Interesting. I recognize my own words throughout most of it, of course -- with same emphasis I use.
Update H931 (AT&T) to Android Pie! (Walkthrough)
This is just the "bootloader unlock warning" screen. It's just a scary picture LG shows you as the phone boots to discourage you from unlocking your bootloader. Ignore it. It will NOT prevent you from doing anything.
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I see they got a "Platinum" award on Reddit?
Well, at least they gave me credit! They combined my Frankenstein and WTF instructions, but focused on H931 and stripped out all the stuff that applied to other V30 variants. (Which is why WTF is like a decision tree -- if you have this variant do X, if you have that variant do Y -- until in Section 5 everyone ends up at the same bootloader unlock "starting line" with fastboot flash commands and early Oreo firmware.)
Everything is cool. They gave me credit and asked people to hit thanks button several times for me here on XDA in return. :good:
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However, the rest of their walkthrough is about custom ROMs, and they credited two other worthy people for that section.
In neither Frankenstein nor WTF, I do not really mention custom ROMs. Because that's not the purpose of either thread.
Frankenstein is to convert your phone to another North American V30 variants -- either to carrier unlock your phone or to instill fastboot flash commands, or both.
For WTF -- it's to unlock your V30 bootloader, install TWRP and get you rooted. (So, some phones like H931 need to take a side trip to Frankenstein thread, but other phones like H930 or H930DS don't need that, as they already have fastboot flash commands.)
Only in the Root Sticky I wrote, I warn H931/H933 takes "extra prep work" for custom ROMs and that all phones should be updated back to latest stock firmware prior to installing custom ROMs. If they have H931/H933, I leave it to them to find out more, as I don't want to scare them off.
Someone once mentioned doing something like this guy did on Reddit thread for ALL V30 variants -- one bootloader unlock/root thread for each variant. US998, H931, H933, LS998, VS996, H930, H930D, H930G, H930DS, AS998, H932 (both T-mobile and Puerto Rico), and that's not even mentioning the Korean variants! But that would be severe overkill and a lot of redundancy. The way WTF is designed, it can handle EVERY V30 on the planet (except for T-mobile H932), as long as you follow decision tree choices. There is a separate thread for T-mobile H932, because it's separate procedure involving a Linux boot disc and other stuff.
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Oh, to the last guy asking questions in that Reddit thread? (duplicate questions) Tell him in Frankenstein conversion, he either didn't do a Master Reset after flashing to Nougat (not following all the steps) or he mistakenly flashed Oreo US998 first, probably thinking they didn't need to flash Nougat (not following all the steps). That's why his phone is bootlooping.
ChazzMatt said:
WTF REDDIT THREAD
Interesting. I recognize my own words throughout most of it, of course -- with same emphasis I use.
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Thanks for all your hard work on this stuff ChazzMatt! This guy simply streamlined all the work you did specifically for the H931 variant, which was what I needed.
Thanks for the heads up about selling the US998 on Ebay... I hadn't really considered that, but will definitely look deeper into it now. So I could basically just flash a stock image for the US998 and call it good, yeah? Do most interested parties on Ebay prefer these phones remain rooted/unlocked in your (or anyone's) experience?
Thanks for your input all.
protagonest said:
Thanks for all your hard work on this stuff ChazzMatt! This guy simply streamlined all the work you did specifically for the H931 variant, which was what I needed.
Thanks for the heads up about selling the US998 on Ebay... I hadn't really considered that, but will definitely look deeper into it now. So I could basically just flash a stock image for the US998 and call it good, yeah? Do most interested parties on Ebay prefer these phones remain rooted/unlocked in your (or anyone's) experience?
Thanks for your input all.
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Vast majority prefer carrier unlocked phones, not necessary bootloader unlocked and rooted. With the scary bootloader unlock warning about "possible corruption" just best to re- lock bootloader before selling it.
Flash to US998 20H, then relock bootloader.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
but users will not get OTA updates when they convert the h931 to US998 they will report the seller
Dinou Sellami said:
but users will not get OTA updates when they convert the h931 to US998 they will report the seller
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And that is exactly correct. It won't get updates as a 998 nor as a used-to-be 931. While yes, of course, some people will understand that and know how to apply an update, **THE VAST MAJORITY** of buyers WILL NOT.
Given that limitation, be sure you state that specifically when selling it. As Dinou says, ebay will be on yer butt otherwise.
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but users will not get OTA updates when they convert the h931 to US998 they will report the seller
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No they won't report the seller.
None of the LS998 to US998 sold on eBay all the time get OTA updates.
All the US998 V30+ being sold by dealers are former LS998.
No one is reported. The dealer has 99.9 approval rating.
That's the only way to carrier unlock an LS998. I bought one US998 new in box from Wal-Mart, and it's former LS998 converted to US998.
Same with H931.
And it's the only way you're going to be able to sell it. I mean, you can convert to VS996 or H933, but same thing. US998 is the best choice.
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No they won't report the seller.
None of the LS998 to US998 sold on eBay all the time get OTA updates.
All the US998 V30+ being sold by dealers are former LS998.
No one is reported. The dealer has 99.9 approval rating.
That's the only way to carrier unlock an LS998. I bought one US998 new in box from Wal-Mart, and it's former LS998 converted to US998.
Same with H931.
And it's the only way you're going to be able to sell it. I mean, you can convert to VS996 or H933, but same thing. US998 is the best choice.
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If you want to sell it on eBay you have to explain that the phone is really a H931 running US998 firmware. If not, the buyer can just return the phone for a full refund after he finds out the phone isn't a US998 which will be easy since H931 has a AT&T logo.
You'd have to pay for the return shipping, eat the original shipping cost, and still have to pay eBay fees...
jptV30 said:
If you want to sell it on eBay you have to explain that the phone is really a H931 running US998 firmware. If not, the buyer can just return the phone for a full refund after he finds out the phone isn't a US998 which will be easy since H931 has a AT&T logo.
You'd have to pay for the return shipping, eat the original shipping cost, and still have to pay eBay fees...
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That doesn't happen with the other Frankenstein converted eBay US998.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...rentrq:0d41f53c16c0a99b185ac3adfff8628c|iid:1
All these V30+ are former LS998 V30+, now converted to US998.
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That doesn't happen with the other Frankenstein converted eBay US998.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...rentrq:0d41f53c16c0a99b185ac3adfff8628c|iid:1
All these V30+ are former LS998 V30+, now converted to US998.
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Like I've said... if the buyer finds out that the phone is not a real US998 and wants to return it then the seller has to cover return shipping and issue a full refund.
If not, the buyer can file a dispute stating item not as described and the seller will be forced to take it back...
The simplest answer to all this is of course simple: be honest in the ad, list every piece of relevant information and that way if there's any kind of claim for any reason other than "It's dead on arrival, Jim..." protects you (or whoever) as the seller.
It can't be stressed enough really to put ALL the relevant info in the ad, be 100% honest about everything:
- be honest that's its originally an AT&T H931
- be honest that the bootloader was unlocked and that message will appear each time the device is powered on from a cold start
- be honest that it has a clean IMEI with no leins/not reported stolen/not reported lost (but don't provide the IMEI directly, that can be provided in a PM if necessary using eBay's message system if a potential buyer wants it)
- be honest that it was converted to becoming a US Cellular US998 in every respect except for it being a true US998 hardware-wise
- be honest that it will not get OTA updates for future releases of Android (if they'd come out) and might not get security fixes or patches either because of that conversion
- be honest and say the condition and mention every single scratch or scuff or mark on it, take plenty of decent pics, show the Settings page, etc
- be honest about what's included
- be honest and just flat out say "If you decide to make this purchase, you do so understanding everything that's been stated in this ad and accept this prior to the purchase, after which there will be no refunds except for the item being literally DOA and non-functional" or words to that effect and clearly state "SOLD AS-IS" in the ad listing at least once and not buried someplace a the very bottom or whatever
If you don't do anything that can be perceived as being deceptive then eBay (and whatever payment processing service you use) will more than likely side with you, the seller, should an issue arise - if it's truly DOA for whatever reason you're going to have to issue a refund regardless, but I don't think that most people would damage or break something intentionally just to get that refund. This basic idea of being honest about it to as many degrees as you possibly can ensures that you'll only be selling to someone that really understands what it is and if they don't, your listing told them ahead of time so that responsibility is now not on you for them being ignorant.
You can't really do much more than this, so either get to it and sell it on eBay with these kinds of guidelines or keep it and maybe sell it locally, either way, good luck.
protagonest said:
Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone!
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Flashing the stock h931 rom will get you close but the BL will still be unlocked(but there is no message on bootup). It has the stock att boot animation.
Notes:
It wipes your internal storage when flashing.
OTA will no longer work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/lg-v30-att-h931-20f-rom-t3872926
br0adband said:
The simplest answer to all this is of course simple: be honest in the ad, list every piece of relevant information and that way if there's any kind of claim for any reason other than "It's dead on arrival, Jim..." protects you (or whoever) as the seller.
It can't be stressed enough really to put ALL the relevant info in the ad, be 100% honest about everything:
- be honest that's its originally an AT&T H931
- be honest that the bootloader was unlocked and that message will appear each time the device is powered on from a cold start
- be honest that it has a clean IMEI with no leins/not reported stolen/not reported lost (but don't provide the IMEI directly, that can be provided in a PM if necessary using eBay's message system if a potential buyer wants it)
- be honest that it was converted to becoming a US Cellular US998 in every respect except for it being a true US998 hardware-wise
- be honest that it will not get OTA updates for future releases of Android (if they'd come out) and might not get security fixes or patches either because of that conversion
- be honest and say the condition and mention every single scratch or scuff or mark on it, take plenty of decent pics, show the Settings page, etc
- be honest about what's included
- be honest and just flat out say "If you decide to make this purchase, you do so understanding everything that's been stated in this ad and accept this prior to the purchase, after which there will be no refunds except for the item being literally DOA and non-functional" or words to that effect and clearly state "SOLD AS-IS" in the ad listing at least once and not buried someplace a the very bottom or whatever
If you don't do anything that can be perceived as being deceptive then eBay (and whatever payment processing service you use) will more than likely side with you, the seller, should an issue arise - if it's truly DOA for whatever reason you're going to have to issue a refund regardless, but I don't think that most people would damage or break something intentionally just to get that refund. This basic idea of being honest about it to as many degrees as you possibly can ensures that you'll only be selling to someone that really understands what it is and if they don't, your listing told them ahead of time so that responsibility is now not on you for them being ignorant.
You can't really do much more than this, so either get to it and sell it on eBay with these kinds of guidelines or keep it and maybe sell it locally, either way, good luck.
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H931, H933, VS996, and US998 all have the exact same hardware...
jptV30 said:
H931, H933, VS996, and US998 all have the exact same hardware...
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The AT&T H931 does not have a CDMA radio in it, neither does the H933 (the Rogers Wireless aka Canadian version) so no, they're not the same as the actual US998 hardware which does have both CDMA and GSM radios in it. As my sig clearly states, I have an H931 converted to a US998 and I can't use it with Sprint or Verizon since it doesn't have a CDMA radio in it so, no, they're not all the exact same hardware.
The VS996 is designed to work with Verizon which is a CDMA carrier so that one does have a CDMA radio in it but it offers slightly different LTE band coverage (some of the other bands for AT&T and T-Mobile are covered as roaming bands).
Each model has something different from the others based on what the carriers tell LG to do with them at the factory, which is why I said what I said.
The T-Mobile LG V30 H932 is the only one that has hardware support for LTE band 71 too so, again, something different for every model.
You can't go wrong with being honest -- except you may not get the sale on eBay, where dozens other V30s are listed as New or Mint, even though we all know they're Frankenphones. Those sellers are probably willing to absorb a few returns because they bought them by the truckload for $30 each.
Why not just just flash US998 KDZ and relock the bootloader, then see if OnePlus will accept the trade-in? That's what you wanted originally, right?
They're looking for a sale, so they're motivated. And if they DON'T accept the trade-in, then you can worry about selling it on eBay.
That's really what I assumed would be your takeaway from my original reply (post #2).
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Like I've said... if the buyer finds out that the phone is not a real US998 and wants to return it then the seller has to cover return shipping and issue a full refund.
If not, the buyer can file a dispute stating item not as described and the seller will be forced to take it back...
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Like I've said, former LS998 are sold every day on eBay as US998 BECAUSE THEY NOW ARE US998 and it's not an issue.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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br0adband said:
I have an H931 converted to a US998 and I can't use it with Sprint or Verizon since it doesn't have a CDMA radio in it so, no, they're not all the exact same hardware.
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You DO have CDMA radio if you converted your H931 to US998. You can't use it on Sprint and Verizon because neither will take an H931 -- NOT because your NOW-US998 doesn't have CDMA.
Sprint won't even take US998 as they only take their own branded LS998 (which is why you have to activate LS998 on Sprint BEFORE Frankenstein, bootloader unlock and root).
Verizon conversely looks only at IMEI, and they see it as H931 even if it's now US998 with CDMA. Be interesting to see what happens when Verizon DROPS CDMA end of this year!
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br0adband said:
It can't be stressed enough really to put ALL the relevant info in the ad, be 100% honest about everything:
- be honest that's its originally an AT&T H931
- be honest that the bootloader was unlocked and that message will appear each time the device is powered on from a cold start
- be honest that it was converted to becoming a US Cellular US998 in every respect except for it being a true US998 hardware-wise
clearly state "SOLD AS-IS" in the ad listing .
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It was converted to Open Market US998. DON'T call it "U.S. Cellular" US998. It's NOT. Many U.S. Cellular phones are carrier locked, and U.S. Cellular only takes phones they sell -- so if a U.S. Cellular customer bought it they would be disappointed.
NO, the bootloader unlock warning will not appear because he's going to lock it back.
Yes, clearly state no refunds.
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It's not hard to sell the phone on eBay. Reading through these comments a lot of you guys act like you've never bought or sold on eBay before...
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TheDannemand said:
You can't go wrong with being honest -- except you may not get the sale on eBay, where dozens other V30s are listed as New or Mint, even though we all know they're Frankenphones. Those sellers are probably willing to absorb a few returns because they bought them by the truckload for $30 each.
Why not just just flash US998 KDZ and relock the bootloader, then see if OnePlus will accept the trade-in? That's what you wanted originally, right?
They're looking for a sale, so they're motivated. And if they DON'T accept the trade-in, then you can worry about selling it on eBay.
That's really what I assumed would be your takeaway from my original reply (post #2).
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Thank you for bringing some clarity to the discussion.
Yes, relock the bootloader and try the trade in. OnePlus isn't going to look at it that carefully, except to verify it's working. They're immediately going to turn around and WHOLESALE to an eBay dealer -- WHO WILL SELL IT ON EBAY.
The eBay dealer will probably swap out the back panel to get rid of the AT&T logo. It'll be sold as US998, which is what it is.
br0adband said:
The AT&T H931 does not have a CDMA radio in it, neither does the H933 (the Rogers Wireless aka Canadian version) so no, they're not the same as the actual US998 hardware which does have both CDMA and GSM radios in it. As my sig clearly states, I have an H931 converted to a US998 and I can't use it with Sprint or Verizon since it doesn't have a CDMA radio in it so, no, they're not all the exact same hardware.
The VS996 is designed to work with Verizon which is a CDMA carrier so that one does have a CDMA radio in it but it offers slightly different LTE band coverage (some of the other bands for AT&T and T-Mobile are covered as roaming bands).
Each model has something different from the others based on what the carriers tell LG to do with them at the factory, which is why I said what I said.
The T-Mobile LG V30 H932 is the only one that has hardware support for LTE band 71 too so, again, something different for every model.
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H931 does have CDMA radio... I don't know where you are getting your information from... but like I've said... the four models I listed all have the exact same hardware...
You are confusing hardware compatibility with carrier policy...
I didn't say anything about H932...
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ChazzMatt said:
Like I've said, former LS998 are sold every day on eBay as US998 BECAUSE THEY NOW ARE US998 and it's not an issue.
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How do you know it's not an issue? How do you know what is happening between the buyers and sellers on eBay? How do you know how many phones were returned... partial refunds given... or disputes filed? You don't...
ChazzMatt said:
It's not hard to sell the phone on eBay. Reading through these comments a lot of you guys act like you've never bought or sold on eBay before...
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Actually... you are acting like you've never done anything on eBay... if you sell a crossflashed phone and you don't state it's crossflashed... you'd have 0% chance of winning the dispute... absolutely 0%...
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My LG G2 just died and I'm looking for a replacement. LG V30 (EU version) looks pretty good, but I have a few questions.
Just like with my G2 I would have to get rid of LG software and flash lineage but that means no lg "features" and here lies the question.
Is there anything gamechanging I would lose?
From what I've read the quad DAC doesn't work but I dont have any audiophile grade headphones so regular snapdragon DAC should get the job done just fine, but what about the camera.
The main reason I'm looking into this phone is the camera, waterproofing and heaphone jack (S8 has also these features but lineage is broken on that thing and I won't touch touchwiz).
So how is the camera on non stock roms? Do I still have acces to the wide angle one and other goodies?
If there is anything else I'm missing please let me know.
You can install both GCam builds one for the main camera and one for the wide angle camera, so you have 2 different apps for each back camera.
As for the quad dac - you can use it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77389334&postcount=15
Onkyo HF Player
USB Audio Player PRO
both are able to utilize the quad dac,
with the 2nd you can even use it with streaming
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77426758&postcount=5
not entirely sure about qnovo but it's an in-kernel driver so it also seems to be used on ROMs different from LG's Stock ROM
zacharias.maladroit said:
You can install both GCam builds one for the main camera and one for the wide angle camera, so you have 2 different apps for each back camera.
As for the quad dac - you can use it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77426758&postcount=5
not entirely sure about qnovo but it's an in-kernel driver so it also seems to be used on ROMs different from LG's Stock ROM
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Thanks. I'm pleasently surprised by that DAC. Thought I would have to give that up for sure.
2 apps for camera is annoying but as long as it takes good photos it doesn't really matter. Is the camera still good on aosp roms?
I know people usually praise Gcam and from reviews this phone has good camera but I figured I might as well ask.
Anything else I should know? I know the speaker is not the best but after the G2 speaker anything is going to be great
FROM A PM, but relevant here.
eBay daywide sale August 28,2018: code "PREGAME15" (15% off anything)
Some LS998 V30+questions
Stormwing said:
I've been looking for a modern, rootable, and bootloader unlockable replacement for my rather aged phone (Sony Xperia Z3v) and after realizing the S8 is horribly locked down my search has led me to your extensive body of experience and research involving the LS998 V30+, to a point where I'm pretty sure it's the one. But because I've fallen off the development wagon for so long I hope you won't mind if I ask you a couple things since you are the resident expert:
Given it's a Sprint device, the LS998 should be fine on Verizon, correct? And should be okay overseas as well?
I haven't really ROM'd since the Gingerbread/ICS days on my old Droids, will this be able to offer a similarly open experience?
Is the $315 eBay one a reliable buy? No issues with the screen (burn in, graying) or condition?
eBay's running one of their sitewide 15% off sales today (PREGAME15) and I'm thinking about pulling the trigger.
Thanks for your time!
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This same dealer also has MINT US998 V30+ for $310 right now. Not sure why it's less than the LS998, but not only is it $5 cheaper but with the 15% discount, that makes it less than $264.... I fully expect it's probably already a converted LS998, but that still saves you one step in bootloader unlock and rooting..
BACK TO YOUR QUESTION.
YES, pull the trigger -- on either.
For the LS998 V30+ $315 - 15% = less than $268 for MINT LS998 V30+. I've bought two LS998 from this dealer -- gave one to my sister, gave the other to my wife (both converted to US998).
Just make sure you ONLY stick to the "mint" for sale (9/10) from this dealer. Don't buy the "good", "very good" -- ONLY MINT.
Yes, the "LS998" will work on Verizon, but not as you buy it. As you easily modify it, with Frankenstein. You'll convert the LS998 first to US998 to sim card unlock/network unlock and make it Verizon-compatible -- with all proper CDMA and LTE bands, blah, blah, blah. At this point you could use it on Verizon since you now have a carrier unlocked US998 V30+, meant to be used on all North American carriers.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
ANY North American V30 variant (AT&T H931, Verizon VS996, Sprint LS998, carrier unlocked US998, Canadian H933, regional AS998) can be converted to any other North American V30 variant (except for T-mobile H932) with dev patched LGUP (a.k.a. Frankenstein) The only reason the Sprint LS998 seems more popular is for some reason it was ridiculously cheap on eBay as no one wanted carrier locked down Sprint phones. The Verizon, AT&T, even carrier unlocked US998 were going for $200 more. Then, we found out you could CONVERT the LS998 V30+ to any other North American V30+ and carrier unlock it in the process. Woo hoo! This then reached epic proportions when you add bootloader unlock and root to the mix.
OR you could convert straight to Verizon VS996 from LS998 -- and make it be a Verizon V30+ (which Verizon doesn't actually sell, they only sell the V30). However, let's not confuse you and let's say you convert eBay LS998 V30+ to US998 V30+ for right now...
But wait, there's more! NOW that you have US998, this means you also have fastboot flash commands. You have also converted to an US998 Oreo KDZ with wonderful bootloader unlock exploit. So, at this point we now go on to the WTF bootloader unlock and root. You unlock bootloader, install TWRP, and root.
OK, you started with an LS998 V30+. You converted to US998 V30+ to carrier unlock the phone AND get fastboot flash commands. You've now unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP and rooted the phone. 30 minutes have gone by. What are you going to do with the rest of the day?
Well... here's where it gets interesting. AT THIS POINT, you can call it a day, stick in your Verizon SIM card and be happy. OR you can flash the VS996 TWRP-flashable stock "ROM" @westwood24 made for us (basically the latest Verizon update as a TWRP flashable zip file, but with TWRP custom recovery). Now you have Verizon firmware and modem on your phone -- but still have TWRP and root.
(Sprint users feeling left out, yes there's ways to flash back to Sprint firmware. Or you can go flash custom ROMs and just use Sprint APNs and modem.)
Back to @Stormwing's question. You can even flash custom ROMs, if you wish.
Other Verizon users can chime in at this point if they want, to give you suggestions.
Wow @ChazzMatt, thanks for that incredibly thorough rundown! Is there risk in going for that $310 perhaps-preconverted 'US998' model? It does seem a little fishy as it's cheaper yet possibly better, and if the difference is just $5 I'm inclined to go for your tried and tested LS998.
All I want is a reliable handset that works on Big Red and can flash ROMs and I'll be a very happy camper. It's been too long since I've had an unlocked bootloader.
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Wow @ChazzMatt, thanks for that incredibly thorough rundown! Is there risk in going for that $310 perhaps-preconverted 'US998' model? It does seem a little fishy as it's cheaper yet possibly better, and if the difference is just $5 I'm inclined to go for your tried and tested LS998.
All I want is a reliable handset that works on Big Red and can flash ROMs and I'll be a very happy camper. It's been too long since I've had an unlocked bootloader.
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The only "drawback" I can think of is if this US998 already has 20D. Then you'd have temporarily flash 20A or 20B to get back to Oreo with bootloader unlock exploit. But you would have to flash that any way with LS998 (first to US998 Nougat, then US998 Oreo 20A or 20B).
So, you're still saving a step.
My brother in law just ordered this US998 V30+ yesterday, before the 15% sale code. I can't tell him, he'll be mad. But he dunked his old phone in water and needs a new phone fast. He's not into rooting and stuff, he just wants a good phone. And this one is IP68.
wow..I just happened to stumble onto this thread while searching on V30+. Just bought one w/ the 15% off. Thank you sir!!
Ok good to know, thanks. Unfortunately I ran into some technical difficulties with PayPal and ended up missing it. Guess I'll be joining you guys the next time one of these promos roll around....
I have just 2 things to say, 1) the selfie camera's quality is quite embarrassing, Gcam makes it better but you have to choose the longer shutter option and stay still for 3 seconds
2) Check the screen on low brightness for any inconsistencies of the notorious P-OLED
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I have just 2 things to say, 1) the selfie camera's quality is quite embarrassing, Gcam makes it better but you have to choose the longer shutter option and stay still for 3 seconds
2) Check the screen on low brightness for any inconsistencies of the notorious P-OLED
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No one is going to defend the selfie cam in the V30. Oreo did make it better. (On Nougat you had to turn off the skin enhancement setting.)
Since I don't use my phone display at very low brightness, that's not an issue for me. You lose vibrancy and colors of OLED displays at low brightness. I've owned five of these phones (gave two to relatives) and know five more relatives/friends who bought for themselves. We all keep the displays at normal brightness, so the topic has never come up. For me "normal" is anything over 50%. I keep mine on 70%.
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Ok good to know, thanks. Unfortunately I ran into some technical difficulties with PayPal and ended up missing it. Guess I'll be joining you guys the next time one of these promos roll around....
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Well, even without the 15% it's not a bad price. $310.
With Labor day weekend coming up, there may be another sale code
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Just got me phone from the ebay seller above (thanks ChazzMatt) looks to be in primo shape (beside a small scratch on the screen - WHY do ppl use phones without scree protector?!)
Question: security patch date April 1 2018 , SW US99810d, Android 7.1
Am I good to root as is, or do I still need to Frankenstein it first. A little confused from number (10,20) and letters (a.b.d)of all the sws
thank s!!
should I return this?
Kind of bummed about this 1/2" scratch right in the center of my 9/10 phone . Would you return it ?
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Kind of bummed about this 1/2" scratch right in the center of my 9/10 phone . Would you return it ?
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Yes, return it. That's not mint. I got two without screen scratches and my brother in law just got his yesterday with no display scratches.
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christoophat said:
Just got me phone from the ebay seller above (thanks ChazzMatt) looks to be in primo shape (beside a small scratch on the screen - WHY do ppl use phones without scree protector?!)
Question: security patch date April 1 2018 , SW US99810d, Android 7.1
Am I good to root as is, or do I still need to Frankenstein it first. A little confused from number (10,20) and letters (a.b.d)of all the sws
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10 means Nougat
20 is Oreo
You are half way through Frankenstein. You still need to upgrade to "safe" Oreo.
And d means the exploit is patched then? sorry newbish on these phones I am.
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And d means the exploit is patched then? sorry newbish on these phones I am.
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No. The letter is just the software version. B comes before C. Etc.
But US998 20D has the July 2018 security patch that blocks the bootloader unlock exploit where we don't need LG's permission.
For Europe it's 20Y.
You can look at the date in the file name and roughly tell which update has (most of time). Any with July and later, stay away from. I can think of one H930DS model where an early July update still had June security patch, but that's the rare exception.
Any July 2018 or later, stay away from until bootloader unlock. If you get one like that, you can still temporarily downgrade to unlock bootloader. Just don't install on purpose until she after you unlock the bootloader or you're making extra work for yourself for no reason.
Heads up everyone: eBay is doing a Labor Day promo for 20% off with the code JUSTRELAX
I'm an idiot. It's restricted to certain sellers only again.
HOWEVER the seller has raised the prices in anticipation and the aforementioned LS998 is now $288 after the code, but the US998 is happily still at $264 after the code. @christoophat, were you able to return yours though? And @ChazzMatt, besides the screen, how was the condition of the your brother's phone?
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Heads up everyone: eBay is doing a Labor Day promo for 20% off with the code JUSTRELAX
HOWEVER the seller has raised the prices in anticipation and the aforementioned LS998 is now $288 after the code, but the US998 is happily still at $264 after the code. @christoophat, were you able to return yours though? And @ChazzMatt, besides the screen, how was the condition of the your brother's phone?
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The seller was a bit hard to get hold of, took 3 emails thru ebay to finally get him to respond, to offer to get it returned for a replacement. Hopefully the return gets processed soon & he still has an actuall 9/10 phone left to exchange it with. Where do you find out about the ebay sales? I never get any emails from ebay about them...
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The seller was a bit hard to get hold of, took 3 emails thru ebay to finally get him to respond, to offer to get it returned for a replacement. Hopefully the return gets processed soon & he still has an actuall 9/10 phone left to exchange it with. Where do you find out about the ebay sales? I never get any emails from ebay about them...
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Hmmm I wonder if I should give it a shot then. I only found out about the last one via The Verge and I found this one by looking up eBay on Slickdeals. I actually set up a Slickdeals account and added an eBay alert but that didn't seem to do anything.
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Hmmm I wonder if I should give it a shot then. I only found out about the last one via The Verge and I found this one by looking up eBay on Slickdeals. I actually set up a Slickdeals account and added an eBay alert but that didn't seem to do anything.
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I'm wondering if, during these sales, that ebay covers the balance for the sellers that's taken off during them. My invoice shows the full price ($309), but I only paid $263.
And yes, I noticed that the average prices for V30s have spiked up a bit. 20% off is a sweet deal. Also found a killer Tech21 Evo Check case for $8.
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Heads up everyone: eBay is doing a Labor Day promo for 20% off with the code JUSTRELAX
HOWEVER the seller has raised the prices in anticipation and the aforementioned LS998 is now $288 after the code, but the US998 is happily still at $264 after the code. @christoophat, were you able to return yours though? And @ChazzMatt, besides the screen, how was the condition of the your brother's phone?
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Here's his text:
"Mine is mint ! Really clean. $310 is unbelievable!"
I didn't tell him if he'd waited a day, he could have gotten it for much less. He needed a phone due to water damage.
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Where do you find out about the ebay sales? I never get any emails from ebay about them...
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I see notifications in the eBay app.
I am pretty sure I know what the answer to this is since I have read it a few times on these forums, but can someone with experience detail what Sprint's response is when trying to activate a previous LS998 model converted to a US998? I have read that it is essential to activate the device *prior* to converting the FW to US998. Has anyone had luck getting Sprint to activate the device on US998 FW previously not activated while on LS998 FW?
Its possible by reinstalling the ls998 system and modem and stuff using this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/us998-to-ls998-sprint-lte-root-t3802310
That will allow you to activate the device on sprint
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I am pretty sure I know what the answer to this is since I have read it a few times on these forums, but can someone with experience detail what Sprint's response is when trying to activate a previous LS998 model converted to a US998? I have read that it is essential to activate the device *prior* to converting the FW to US998. Has anyone had luck getting Sprint to activate the device on US998 FW previously not activated while on LS998 FW?
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Are you asking because you did NOT activate it before converting?
Or are you asking because you just want to do it the hard way?
You basically have to convert it back to LS998 (and there's no KDZ available to flash). I remember one guy did it but it was a major pain -- which is why we put all the warnings everywhere.
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Are you asking because you did NOT activate it before converting?
Or are you asking because you just want to do it the hard way?
You basically have to convert it back to LS998 (and there's no KDZ available to flash). I remember one guy did it but it was a major pain -- which is why we put all the warnings everywhere.
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No... no...no... *sigh*...... I sold a converted LS998 to US998 on Swappa... And this was part of the sale description:
**NOTE** This device is not compatible with Sprint! The ESN is linked to an LS998U, which Swappa requires I list it as an LS998U variant. It was never activated on Sprint prior to conversion to US998, and Sprint will not allow activation.
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Buyer received the phone today and said he will "complete the sale after visiting the Sprint store for activation". So he clearly didn't read the description and never asked questions before buying... I am anticipating a expletive laden response any time now and wanted to see if I could offer any assistance. I suppose there is chance he is familiar with this device and knows how to do all this himself but I have my doubts....
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No... no...no... *sigh*...... I sold a converted LS998 to US998 on Swappa... And this was part of the sale description:
**NOTE** This device is not compatible with Sprint! The ESN is linked to an LS998U, which Swappa requires I list it as an LS998U variant. It was never activated on Sprint prior to conversion to US998, and Sprint will not allow activation.
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Buyer received the phone today and said he will "complete the sale after visiting the Sprint store for activation". So he clearly didn't read the description and never asked questions before buying... I am anticipating a expletive laden response any time now and wanted to see if I could offer any assistance. I suppose there is chance he is familiar with this device and knows how to do all this himself but I have my doubts....
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Ah, thanks for the clarification.
I think you are covered as far as the sale. That's quite a clear warning! I'll see if I can find the posts from months ago where the guy did activate it -- FINALLY.
Can't quite find those posts, but here's what he needs if he knows how to do it:
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Here is a zip for warranty exchange ect...*NOT Recommended* (you will lose root, TWRP)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19FHVNn6TS5ybdNIziL1nyKPWcIc_RN0t/view?usp=drivesdk
From TWRP(wipe data) install the FACTORYSPRINT.zip reboot device, update prl and profile, reboot, do a system update
It works. I tested it
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Ah, thanks for the clarification.
I think you are covered as far as the sale. That's quite a clear warning! I'll see if I can find the posts from months ago where the guy did activate it -- FINALLY.
Can't quite find those posts, but here's what he needs if he knows how to do it:
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I figured I would post a reply about this mess... I had to take the device back because Swappa sucks and they claim the ESN check comes back that the devices has "financial obligation" owed on it. Although, when I listed the device they did an ESN check which came back clean. They immediately sided with the buyer and said the device was not valid to sell on their site, even though they allowed me to list it, a buyer to buy and pay for it, I shipped it to him and only when the jackass read my listing and realized it says "Not compatible with Sprint" did he put up a stink... I purchased this on eBay and I know at least one other person reported picking up a V30 which came back as "financed". I used this particular device on T-Mobile and AT&T so I know it isn't restricted in that sense.
In parallel, I reached out to Sprint and gave them the ESN to check if there was in fact any financial obligation and they confirmed that there was not... The agent (on their own) offered to put an unlock request in for the device. I am not, nor have ever been a Sprint customer so I didn't believe they would honor the unlock request. According to a check with Sprint today, they did unlock the device.
So for those more familiar with Sprint... does this mean it can be activated on Sprint now because it is unlocked? Regardless that it is running US998 FW?
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I figured I would post a reply about this mess... I had to take the device back because Swappa sucks and they claim the ESN check comes back that the devices has "financial obligation" owed on it. Although, when I listed the device they did an ESN check which came back clean. They immediately sided with the buyer and said the device was not valid to sell on their site, even though they allowed me to list it, a buyer to buy and pay for it, I shipped it to him and only when the jackass read my listing and realized it says "Not compatible with Sprint" did he put up a stink... I purchased this on eBay and I know at least one other person reported picking up a V30 which came back as "financed". I used this particular device on T-Mobile and AT&T so I know it isn't restricted in that sense.
In parallel, I reached out to Sprint and gave them the ESN to check if there was in fact any financial obligation and they confirmed that there was not... The agent (on their own) offered to put an unlock request in for the device. I am not, nor have ever been a Sprint customer so I didn't believe they would honor the unlock request. According to a check with Sprint today, they did unlock the device.
So for those more familiar with Sprint... does this mean it can be activated on Sprint now because it is unlocked? Regardless that it is running US998 FW?
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I would forget Swappa and sell on eBay. Tons of LS998 converted to US998 being sold there.
Sorry, I don't know the answer to the Sprint question.
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Can't quite find those posts, but here's what he needs if he knows how to do it:
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How does one go about re-locking the bootloader once this is done? You lose fastboot commands once you are on a Sprint base? Or is this a hybrid?
Here is a zip for warranty exchange ect...*NOT Recommended* (you will lose root, TWRP)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19FH...w?usp=drivesdk
From TWRP(wipe data) install the FACTORYSPRINT.zip reboot device, update prl and profile, reboot, do a system update
It works. I tested it
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How does one go about re-locking the bootloader once this is done? You lose fastboot commands once you are on a Sprint base? Or is this a hybrid?
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I'm not sure. Maybe the factory Sprint zip locks the bootloader? (Probably doesn't, but I really don't know.)
But yeah, the fastboot commands are gone.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
I just got a brand spankin' new ("fair" condition scratch & dent, from ebay for dirt cheap) AT&T version, H931. Used the 15% off ebay coupon and got it for so cheap that it's not even fair. Along with that, I snagged the Sprint BYOD free 1-year service deal, so I'm living large obviously. I activated the plan initially on my now-dormant Essential phone, and as soon as I can go to the store and get the correct SIM for this V30, I'll be swapping them out on my line.
But here's what I'm confused on, both as a new Sprint customer and V30 owner. First of all, I'm amazed at how unreasonably uptight Sprint is with what phones they let on their network. Aside from that, I'm also really impressed with the V30's chameleon-like ability to be flashed to another carrier's firmware, and be completely functionally identical. Never seen another android phone do that... which is why I'm a little out of my element here, because I'm sure Sprint will be the ones to ruin the fun somehow.
Has anyone had experience using their V30 on Sprint and can tell me the following:
1. How are the Sprint bands on the US998 firmware - aren't there some missing?
If so, is it considered a good idea and just better overall to flash specifically to the sprint LS998 firmware?
Are there any risks with that, like potentially giving Sprint more power over your device (i.e. SIM-locking it or blacklisting the device's IMEI or something globally, regardless of whether you flash it back to US998 or one of the other carriers' firmware)
2. If you were to activate your V30 on Sprint, and then later on flashed a different firmware, would they see it as a different device altogether, and force you to pay the activation fee in order to get it back on again? Or is it just tied to the IMEI, no matter what firmware you're on (say you flashed a stock LS998 to the unlocked US998 using the Frankenstein method)
3. Also, I didn't back up my modemst1/modemst2 files before I flashed over from H931. Didn't think it mattered since I could just flash back to the H931 someday, but are those files unique to my particular device/IMEI?
if so, should I stop what I'm doing and fix it before I go any further with flashing LS998 or activating it on Sprint or any of that? How bad is it that I didn't make a backup, and is there anything that can be done now?
I just want to make sure I've got everything right before I go in tomorrow and sacrifice my new phone to the angry Sprint gods. Especially since eventually, when I go to sell it when I upgrade again, I'll probably want to flash it back to the H931 firmware with no problems from Sprint claiming lordship over it. I'm already astonished enough that I'm going to have to shell out $30 just to switch the device on my line.
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AT&T version, H931. Used the 15% off ebay coupon and got it for so cheap that it's not even fair. Along with that, I snagged the Sprint BYOD free 1-year service deal, so I'm living large obviously. I activated the plan initially on my now-dormant Essential phone, and as soon as I can go to the store and get the correct SIM for this V30, I'll be swapping them out on my line.
But here's what I'm confused on, both as a new Sprint customer and V30 owner. First of all, I'm amazed at how unreasonably uptight Sprint is with what phones they let on their network. Aside from that, I'm also really impressed with the V30's chameleon-like ability to be flashed to another carrier's firmware, and be completely functionally identical. Never seen another android phone do that... which is why I'm a little out of my element here, because I'm sure Sprint will be the ones to ruin the fun somehow.
Has anyone had experience using their V30 on Sprint and can tell me the following:
1. How are the Sprint bands on the US998 firmware - aren't there some missing?
If so, is it considered a good idea and just better overall to flash specifically to the sprint LS998 firmware?
Are there any risks with that, like potentially giving Sprint more power over your device (i.e. SIM-locking it or blacklisting the device's IMEI or something globally, regardless of whether you flash it back to US998 or one of the other carriers' firmware)
2. If you were to activate your V30 on Sprint, and then later on flashed a different firmware, would they see it as a different device altogether, and force you to pay the activation fee in order to get it back on again? Or is it just tied to the IMEI, no matter what firmware you're on (say you flashed a stock LS998 to the unlocked US998 using the Frankenstein method)
3. Also, I didn't back up my modemst1/modemst2 files before I flashed over from H931. Didn't think it mattered since I could just flash back to the H931 someday, but are those files unique to my particular device/IMEI?
if so, should I stop what I'm doing and fix it before I go any further with flashing LS998 or activating it on Sprint or any of that? How bad is it that I didn't make a backup, and is there anything that can be done now?
I just want to make sure I've got everything right before I go in tomorrow and sacrifice my new phone to the angry Sprint gods. Especially since eventually, when I go to sell it when I upgrade again, I'll probably want to flash it back to the H931 firmware with no problems from Sprint claiming lordship over it. I'm already astonished enough that I'm going to have to shell out $30 just to switch the device on my line.
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Wow you are asking a lot of questions, and that's a lot of typing to answer.
I'm not a big fan of Sprint. Most people try to get away from them, not run towards them. That's how Frankenstein method was perfected, everyone with "cheap" locked-down LS998 trying carrier unlock their phones. Or people with AT&T H931 who didn't have AT&T and wanted updates. Figured out how to flash them with carrier unlocked firmware like US998, AS998, H933 -- or even flash to Verizon VS996 (which is not carrier locked to Verizon). However, then with WTF bootloader unlock method, you needed fastboot flash commands -- and of ALL the North American variants, only US998 has that. But originally Frankenstein was basically just to carrier unlock AT&T H931 and Sprint US998 phones...
You may be a world of trouble with Sprint. Your saving grace may be you can activate on Essential, then swap the SIM card to your H931/US998/LS998 phone once you have bootloader unlocked, rooted and flashed the LS998 zip file to "convert" it to LS998.
There are others who do use US998 firmware, but have merely flashed the Sprint modems to get all the Sprint bands. And they populate the Sprint APN. There's a big Sprint thread that details all that. But ALL of them had to first activate their LS998 prior to doing anything with bootloader unlock, TWRP, etc. One guy managed to do it after the fact but it took three pages of help. These are people with original LS998. No one that I am aware of has done it with a model that was not originally LS998.
But I'll repeat -- Your saving grace may be you can activate on Essential, then swap the SIM card to your H931/US998/LS998 phone once you have bootloader unlocked, rooted and flashed the LS998 zip file to "convert" it to LS998. Those other people didn't have another phone to activate (if I understand Sprint thinking, which I may not).
1. How are the Sprint bands on the US998 firmware - aren't there some missing?
Yes, there are two bands missing. Depending on where you live that may not be important. But you can flash Sprint modem, while keeping US998 firmware. Or you can fully flash to LS998 zip file to convert to LS998 while keeping TWRP and root.
4. Especially since eventually, when I go to sell it when I upgrade again, I'll probably want to flash it back to the H931 firmware with no problems from Sprint claiming lordship over it.
AT&T, like Sprint, does not publicly release their KDZ firmware. While you can flash back to H931 stock "ROM" via TWRP, then you lose fastboot flash commands -- so you cannot lock back bootloader and how do you get rid of TWRP? When you even go to sell it, best to sell it as US998. You can relock bootloader and flash full stock KDZ. There's TONS of former LS998 V30+ being sold on eBay as US998. Already Frankensteined by the sellers, and they are carrier unlocked.
3. Also, I didn't back up my modemst1/modemst2 files before I flashed over from H931. Didn't think it mattered since I could just flash back to the H931 someday, but are those files unique to my particular device/IMEI?
Doesn't matter. You can always flash to US998 to get those US998 bands, you can flash back to H931 via TWRP with stock ROM if you want those bands back. Flashing to LS998 ZIP file will give you those bands. The one thing you probably can't do after you start is completely restore the H931 to full stock with bootloader locked back. But that's no big deal, for selling on eBay. Just sell as US998. It's more versatile anyway and has fastboot flash commands. I'm an AT&T customer for 7 years and I've NEVER owned an AT&T branded phone.
2. If you were to activate your V30 on Sprint, and then later on flashed a different firmware, would they see it as a different device altogether, and force you to pay the activation fee in order to get it back on again? Or is it just tied to the IMEI, no matter what firmware you're on (say you flashed a stock LS998 to the unlocked US998 using the Frankenstein method)
The only people I can answer for is Sprint customers who had original LS998, activated them -- converted to US998, unlocked bootloader, installed TWRP and rooted, and then still continued to use their devices on Sprint. To still use devices on Sprint, some used TWRP-flashable zip file to convert back to LS998 while still keeping TWRP and root. Others just kept US998 firmware but flashed Sprint modems. Others have flashed AOSP custom ROMs, but had to use Sprint APN and maybe Sprint modem.
I don't want to discourage you. You may be able to get away with this, but only because your ace is the Essential phone. Activate that first. Then, do all the stuff for the H931/US998/LS998 conversion (including bootloader unlock, root). Put the SIM card in, then see if it works. If it doesn't, then what people have found is TELEPHONE help is the best. If you go to a store, they will immediately see you do not have a Sprint LS998. Whereas over the telephone, you can tell them you have LS998, the firmware version, etc, and it's often off-shore service who may not care it's not really Sprint hardware, if the firmware matches....
Good luck!
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I don't want to discourage you. You may be able to get away with this, but only because your ace is the Essential phone. Activate that first. Then, do all the stuff for the H931/US998/LS998 conversion (including bootloader unlock, root). Put the SIM card in, then see if it works. If it doesn't, then what people have found is TELEPHONE help is the best. If you go to a store, they will immediately see you do not have a Sprint LS998. Whereas over the telephone, you can tell them you have LS998, the firmware version, etc, and it's often off-shore service who may not care it's not really Sprint hardware, if the firmware matches....
Good luck!
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Wow, amazing. Wish I could hit the thanks button 10 times.
So it looks like my best bet is to just flash the LS998 KDZ and then body slam my SIM into it (I’m already activated on the Essential and it does look like they take the same specific SIM model, hallelujah)
I knew I was making a deal with the devil from the start when I took Sprint. Just that I’m pretty low on money right now, and a year of unlimited data service for free was just too good to pass up. I’m planning on moving state before too long, so when I have more income I might just drop sprint like a hot potato long before they cut me off (which is January 2020)
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Wow, amazing. Wish I could hit the thanks button 10 times.
So it looks like my best bet is to just flash the LS998 KDZ and then body slam my SIM into it (I’m already activated on the Essential and it does look like they take the same specific SIM model, hallelujah)
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Yes.
And I have tons of other posts you can thank. You can find posts via my profile link. Regrettably, you're limited to 15 thanks per day...
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Update for anyone interested; it did not work. I flashed the Sprint 21a update .zip in TWRP, stuck my pre-activated SIM in, and it failed to register on the network. Tried updating PRL/Profile and everything, nothing worked (I'm not too surprised). Just to make sure, I got on the chat with a Sprint rep and as soon as I gave them my IMEI, they said it couldn't be activated on Sprint for BYOD.
Funnily enough, after a while of the phone trying to get the SIM to connect, it suddenly locked it and told me to restart and basically good luck, chump. So when I stuck it back in my Essential, already defeated enough, it suddenly borked my phone number and I couldn't get service again till I reset the PRL/Profile on that, and turned the phone off for 2 minutes.
Yeah, sprint is a huge hassle. Good lord
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nothing worked (I'm not too surprised). Just to make sure, I got on the chat with a Sprint rep and as soon as I gave them my IMEI, they said it couldn't be activated on Sprint for BYOD.
Yeah, sprint is a huge hassle. Good lord
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Sorry it didn't work. Gave you all the ideas I could, but just blame Sprint.
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Just to make sure, I got on the chat with a Sprint rep and as soon as I gave them my IMEI, they said it couldn't be activated on Sprint for BYOD.
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Just curious, did the rep deny activation because it's not an original LS998 or is it possible that the IMEI has been blacklisted?
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Just curious, did the rep deny activation because it's not an original LS998 or is it possible that the IMEI has been blacklisted?
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Not sure if you mean blacklisted by Sprint only, or in general for all carriers (like you'd see on the Swappa ESN check or something). If the latter, then no, I checked it on multiple sites and they all said clear for activation. The AT&T model is GSM unlocked by default, so that makes sense.
All the guy said at Sprint was that my phone wasn't BYOD-compatible. I'm pretty sure they have a whitelist instead, and only put phones that are sprint-branded on it. Then if you call them up they'll activate unlocked devices for you, but my particular H931 probably shows up as GSM-unlocked (originally from AT&T) and thus not compatible. (even though technically, software-wise, it would be since I flashed the right bands on it)
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Not sure if you mean blacklisted by Sprint only, or in general for all carriers (like you'd see on the Swappa ESN check or something). If the latter, then no, I checked it on multiple sites and they all said clear for activation. The AT&T model is GSM unlocked by default, so that makes sense.
All the guy said at Sprint was that my phone wasn't BYOD-compatible. I'm pretty sure they have a whitelist instead, and only put phones that are sprint-branded on it. Then if you call them up they'll activate unlocked devices for you, but my particular H931 probably shows up as GSM-unlocked (originally from AT&T) and thus not compatible. (even though technically, software-wise, it would be since I flashed the right bands on it)
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Thing is, Sprint won't even take "original" (no Frankenstein) open market (B&H Photo) US998, even though it's the official carrier unlocked LG V30.
I was on T-Mobile for years but I could save a lot if I became the 4th phone on a shared unlimited plan on AT&T. So I bought a US998 and I brought it to AT&T to add a line on a bring my own device offer. They have an optional $4/month service which is essentially greatly extended caller ID and it identifies "likely scams" among other things like mobile user caller ID and identifies a lot of things that regular caller ID doesn’t. I had it on T-Mo until earlier today. It, however, requires that the phone be accepted for "HD Voice" which the V30 is but not on AT&T if the IMEI isn’t on "their" list of their phones. It isn’t a matter of the phone having the US998 firmware but that the IMEI doesn’t match. If I understand things correctly, and I don’t know that I do, then even if I bought an H931 from an eBay seller, I'd be unable to activate it with full functionality.
If I'm wrong, then I could return the US998 and buy an H931 and flash it to a us998 and give up some memory (the US998 is a V30+) and some cheap headphones and get the missing features. Or I could go back to T-Mo and spend another $30 a month. Or I could give up the caller ID, Wi-Fi calling, HD voice and a few lesser features.
I found an email form an AT&T rep, back in 2016, saying that they were working on adding all features for users of phones brought to AT&T and that they were working on it. I don’t remember if they implied it was at great urgency. When I was at the store, the people there spent over a half hour trying to activate the service and they couldn’t figure it out. Of course, they merely tried the same failing things over and over and never tried other things like maybe calling AT&T support, or looking it up or even asking people who might have known. When I called and got as supervisor, I was told it didn’t work because it was the policy of AT&T to not offer the services on BYOD phones.
Anyone know anything here? I'd prefer info trhat;'d help me get my6 phone on AT&T wiht the features but I'd settle for knowing tghat it';s not goping to work.
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It, however, requires that the phone be accepted for "HD Voice" which the V30 is but not on AT&T if the IMEI isn’t on "their" list of their phones. It isn’t a matter of the phone having the US998 firmware but that the IMEI doesn’t match. If I understand things correctly, and I don’t know that I do, then even if I bought an H931 from an eBay seller, I'd be unable to activate it with full functionality.
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No, you don't quite understand correctly. They are pressing you to have an AT&T-branded phone, not specifically a phone they personally sell to you. You could buy an H931 off eBay and it would have the IMEI they SAY they are looking for.
Having said that you admit they didn't call AT&T tech support. I would call AT&T tech support myself or go to another AT&T store. If they still say no, then buy an H931 off eBay...
Also, what happens when you flash the H931 TWRP-flashable zip to your US998? That doesn't allow the AT&T features?
from, what I understand, it comes down to provisioning and they describe the process as one with no discretionary range at all. The only issue is whether the IMEI is in the list that can be so provisioned. Whether it is owning a H931 or a phone of their supply is unknown but they do insist it is the latter. I compare it to the issues some people report trying to unlock a phone they say is paid for and others say it is not. The idea being that there is a somewhat fluid master list somewhere and they are saying there is a list of H931s meant for sale by AT&T agents.
I don't believe it either but it appears to be a road block.
So now do I try to return the US998 because I had activation issues with it? On a fairness level, it's not the fault of the eBay reseller who sold me the phone he said he would, and by all accounts, in good working order.
So what would you do, if you accepted my position that I need these features that seem to require an IMEI that AT&T is willing to provision with HD Voice, and the resulting capabilities which only follow on a phone provisioned for HD Voice so I could subscribe for the $4/.month caller ID service. I’d hate to pay another $300 to buy a H931 to find that the problem still exists or that I now have 2 phones when I need one.
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No, you don't quite understand correctly. They are pressing you to have an AT&T-branded phone, not specifically a phone they personally sell to you. You could buy an H931 off eBay and it would have the IMEI they saythey are looking for.
Having said that you admit they didn't call AT&T tech support. I would call AT&T tech support myself or go to another AT&T store. If they still say no, then buy an H931 off eBay...
Also, what happens when you flash the H931 TWRP-flashable zip to your US998? That doesn't allow the AT&T features?
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from, what I understand, it comes down to provisioning and they describe the process as one with no discretionary range at all. The only issue is whether the IMEI is in the list that can be so provisioned. Whether it is owning a H931 or a phone of their supply is unknown but they do insist it is the latter. I compare it to the issues some people report trying to unlock a phone they say is paid for and others say it is not. The idea being that there is a somewhat fluid master list somewhere and they are saying there is a list of H931s meant for sale by AT&T agents.
I don't believe it either but it appears to be a road block.
So now do I try to return the US998 because I had activation issues with it? On a fairness level, it's not the fault of the eBay reseller who sold me the phone he said he would, and by all accounts, in good working order.
So what would you do, if you accepted my position that I need these features that seem to require an IMEI that AT&T is willing to provision with HD Voice, and the resulting capabilities which only follow on a phone provisioned for HD Voice so I could subscribe for the $4/.month caller ID service. I’d hate to pay another $300 to buy a H931 to find that the problem still exists or that I now have 2 phones when I need one.
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I'm going to leave that decision to you.
My sister and brother-in-law both have LS998 V30+ (off eBay) converted to US998 V30+ and they're both on post paid AT&T. He's a successful tech salesperson and they live in a million dollar house.
Another friend of mine (very tech oriented) has postpaid AT&T on native US998 V30 (B&H Photo) and works for a world wide news organization.
I don't know whether they have HD Voice, WiFi calling on their US998 -- but they have never complained about not having it...
They all got this phone on my recommendation, and are using it on postpaid AT&T.
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My wife and I, my mother and two other friends have either native or converted US998 on Prepaid AT&T. I do not have those features, but I like having the lower price of AT&T Prepaid with the speed of postpaid AT&T included vs the lag of AT&T MVNOs.
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But you know your needs better than me. I would just try with another store or AT&T technical support before giving up. If you do return the US998 you can bootloader unlock and root H931. I would activate first to get everything done, before following the WTF instructions.
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I just spoke to a so-called supervisor who tells me that the issue is one of supported devices on the BYOD plan. they say that while the H931 as sold by AT&T is a supported device, an h931 not sold by AT&T is somehow fundamentally different and it appears to them as having a different "image" (a term not explained or otherwise defined) and so there is no way that a non AT&T H931 will ever appear on their system, as one of theirs. As not one theirs, they refuse the range of services that include "HD Voice, Wi-Fi calling and enhanced caller ID and a security feature that I don’t know the name of.
They insist that this "image" issue is really true and that anyone with an AT&T supplied H931 and a non-AT&T H931 appear as different devices on their system.
They proposed creating an escalation ticket so that the "back office department" can look to see if there is anything that they can do. They say as things are currently set up there is no option anywhere to authorize a non-AT&T phone but maybe the back-office folks can do it, I’m promised a callback in 24 hours and he is improbably making positive sounding noises. As so much of this makes no sense, I don’t expect qi positive result, but I will give them 24 hours
I'm not casting aspersions on any user of AT&T's postpaid or pre-paid system but I can say that I ne3edc Wi-Fi calling for reception where I work and I want the caller IDF service and have come to want it in the 4 years I’ve been on T-Mobile who offers the same product.
Please don’t think that I'm critiquing anyone who is using any carrier's system to their satisfaction. I'm just saying that I would be significantly troubled by not having Wi-Fi calling as I live and work in areas where there is no calling except once inside buildings and connected to their Wi-Fi LAN. And for whatever reason, I'm being excluded on grounds that seem suspicions.
ChazzMatt said:
I'm going to leave that decision to you.
My sister and brother-in-law both have LS998 V30+ (off eBay) converted to US998 V30+ and they're both on post paid AT&T. He's a successful tech salesperson and they live in a million dollar house.
Another friend of mine (very tech oriented) has postpaid AT&T on native US998 V30 (B&H Photo) and works for a world wide news organization.
I don't know whether they have HD Voice, WiFi calling on their US998 -- but they have never complained about not having it...
They all got this phone on my recommendation, and are using it on postpaid AT&T.
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My wife and I, my mother and two other friends have either native or converted US998 on Prepaid AT&T. I do not have those features, but I like having the lower price of AT&T Prepaid with the speed of postpaid AT&T included vs the lag of AT&T MVNOs.
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can anyone tell me what rom I should use for the H932?
I've just about decided to go back to T-Mo and I need a rom that wont lose root an dwill enable B71 and would like the latest, stockest thing that has been at least partly debloated. Is there any such thing? Is there info for loadng the lastest H932 rom on a US998?
Bob Simons said:
I just spoke to a so-called supervisor who tells me that the issue is one of supported devices on the BYOD plan. they say that while the H931 as sold by AT&T is a supported device, an h931 not sold by AT&T is somehow fundamentally different and it appears to them as having a different "image" (a term not explained or otherwise defined) and so there is no way that a non AT&T H931 will ever appear on their system, as one of theirs. As not one theirs, they refuse the range of services that include "HD Voice, Wi-Fi calling and enhanced caller ID and a security feature that I don’t know the name of.
They insist that this "image" issue is really true and that anyone with an AT&T supplied H931 and a non-AT&T H931 appear as different devices on their system.
They proposed creating an escalation ticket so that the "back office department" can look to see if there is anything that they can do. They say as things are currently set up there is no option anywhere to authorize a non-AT&T phone but maybe the back-office folks can do it, I’m promised a callback in 24 hours and he is improbably making positive sounding noises. As so much of this makes no sense, I don’t expect qi positive result, but I will give them 24 hours
I'm not casting aspersions on any user of AT&T's postpaid or pre-paid system but I can say that I ne3edc Wi-Fi calling for reception where I work and I want the caller IDF service and have come to want it in the 4 years I’ve been on T-Mobile who offers the same product.
Please don’t think that I'm critiquing anyone who is using any carrier's system to their satisfaction. I'm just saying that I would be significantly troubled by not having Wi-Fi calling as I live and work in areas where there is no calling except once inside buildings and connected to their Wi-Fi LAN. And for whatever reason, I'm being excluded on grounds that seem suspicions.
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I've just about decided to go back to T-Mo and I need a rom that wont lose root an dwill enable B71 and would like the latest, stockest thing that has been at least partly debloated. Is there any such thing? Is there info for loadng the lastest H932 rom on a US998?
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This T-Mobile ROM port for US998 won't give you LTE band 71, but probably everything else:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/rom-lg-v30-t-mobile-stock-rom-20s-t3925486
is there any way to get band 71, and wifi calling on a us998?
I just went to a t-mo store with the us998 rom and put a t-mo sim in it and the hd voice calling worked fine although I didn't try Wi-Fi calling yet. But where I live I think b71 would make a huge difference. In any case I want a chance to find out if this is true. This is probably the main reason I bought the V30: my V20 doesn’t even have B71 and I have no reception in way too many places where t-mo says there is coverage. They also imply that most new build out is with b71, and they further imply that all else equal, ,b71 works better as if it's just magic. It seems at last worth checking out if there's a chance. I see some roms change the modems and some do not. Is it likely that that roms that don’t change the modem will not change the lack of b71 so I'd need a rom that includes an h932 modem to even have a chance of b71 working?
Thanks agian for all yuor help.
ChazzMatt said:
This T-Mobile ROM port for US998 won't give you LTE band 71, but probably everything else:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/rom-lg-v30-t-mobile-stock-rom-20s-t3925486
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a while ago you said thje us998 had band 71
I'm referring to https://www.xda-developers.com/unlocked-lg-v30-band-71-600-mhz/
If the us998 doesnt have b71, does it if it has the H932 modem?
Bob Simons said:
I just went to a t-mo store with the us998 rom and put a t-mo sim in it and the hd voice calling worked fine although I didn't try Wi-Fi calling yet. But where I live I think b71 would make a huge difference. In any case I want a chance to find out if this is true. This is probably the main reason I bought the V30: my V20 doesn’t even have B71 and I have no reception in way too many places where t-mo says there is coverage. They also imply that most new build out is with b71, and they further imply that all else equal, ,b71 works better as if it's just magic. It seems at last worth checking out if there's a chance. I see some roms change the modems and some do not. Is it likely that that roms that don’t change the modem will not change the lack of b71 so I'd need a rom that includes an h932 modem to even have a chance of b71 working?
Thanks agian for all yuor help.
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Bob Simons said:
I'm referring to https://www.xda-developers.com/unlocked-lg-v30-band-71-600-mhz/
If the us998 doesnt have b71, does it if it has the H932 modem?
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If you read that article, do you see who he quoted in that article and what thread he linked to? . Someone named ChazzMatt. Go read the thread he links to, please. I started that thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/t-mobile-600-mhz-lte-band-71-s-carrier-t3671351
That was also in September 2017 before the OFFICIAL carrier unlocked (Open Market) US998 V30/V30+ was released. We were hoping the upcoming "official" carrier unlocked US998 (sold by authorized 3rd party retailers like B&H Photo) would ALSO have the new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band 71 -- and one part of T-Mobile SEEMED to be hinting it would... That you could buy EITHER H932 OR the "official" carrier unlocked US998 and have all the T-Mobile bands. These official carrier unlocked phones are called "Open Market" phones by LG; these are the phones that LG usually lists in their LG Bootloader Unlock code eligible list.
Thus the thread I started, and subsequent XDA NEWS article. That turned out to NOT be true. The tweets we misleading.
Even so, we also hoped with root on the "Open Market" US998 we could activate the hidden T-Mobile network menus we could clearly see. THAT is also discussed in the thread.
Yet in all the time since then, no one has had any luck getting T-Mobile LTE band 71 working on any phone except U.S. T-Mobile H932.
@runningnak3d, the dev who ROOTED the T-Mobile H932 currently uses a US998 on T-Mobile. If anyone could get LTE band 71 on T-Mobile with US998, it would be him. . He hasn't, and he says LTE band 71 is not that important for him.
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We also found out the the only difference between the "Open Market" official carrier unlocked US998 V30 (64GB) sold by B&H Photo and the US998 V30 (64 GB) sold by U.S. Cellular is the B&H Photo V30 was secretly eligible for LG bootloader unlock code. One of my V30 used official LG bootloader unlock code, but we had to hack the LG dropdown menu on the LG Dev website to enter the information. LG has NEVER officially announced the Open Market US998 V30 is eligible for bootloader unlock code. That trick/hack does NOT work for the Open Market US998 V30+. So, only one of my phones was bootloader unlocked using that method.
However there was NO DIFFERENCE between the various US998 V30+ (128GB) sold by the any entities. NO US998 V30+ is eligible for LG bootloader unlock code, and ALL US998 V30/V30+ are actually carrier unlocked -- even those sold by U.S. Cellular.
LG was not forthcoming with any of this information. We had to figure it out by ourselves, through trial and error.
With WTF exploit, we are not dependent on LG for bootloader unlock code. But that developments did not happen until May 2018. My US998 V30+ was not bootloader unlocked and rooted until then.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Of course I know it was you. that's why I'm asking you follow up questions.
I'm seeing comments along two theories and I dont i know which is more likely true. Theory one is that the 835 chips come in two types, ones that have band 71 capabilities and those tht dont, or the other theory which is that there are software modems thaat compensate for the lack of included band 71 modems, and where a certain software modem could add the capbility. In effect, some say that the US998 can never get band 71 and others say for example, that if you knew what you were doing wiht the Shortcut Master you could add the band, or alternatively, you could flash the correct rom or modem.
And so I start doing my homework and sure enough, you show up as one of the few that know anything about it.
I have no idea but I keep being told that things arent going to go the way I want them to. I'm hoping that I can get band 71 using this phone because I just bought this phone and I need or think I need band 71. It is why I bougnt this phone.
How do things look for me getting band 71? My clever plan to go to AT&T failed rather dramatically by my standards, even if you think I should be fine without the functions that so many people don't care about. Out in the boonies, T-Mpo is putting most of their efforts into band 71 and I spent a lot of time driving where there is no reception and I'm told there'd be a lot more if I could get that band. that's mainly why I bought the new phone as the V20 still works about the same, not getting band 71 every day.
I'm trying to learn about this phone after 2+ years with the H918 but I'll never pick up what you know any time soon, so I'm asking you.
ChazzMatt said:
If you read that article, do you see who he quoted in that article and what thread he linked to? . Someone named ChazzMatt. Go read the thread he links to, please. I started that thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/t-mobile-600-mhz-lte-band-71-s-carrier-t3671351
That was also in September 2017 before the OFFICIAL carrier unlocked (Open Market) US998 V30/V30+ was released. We were hoping the upcoming "official" carrier unlocked US998 (sold by authorized 3rd party retailers like B&H Photo) would ALSO have the new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band 71 -- and one part of T-Mobile SEEMED to be hinting it would... That you could buy EITHER H932 OR the "official" carrier unlocked US998 and have all the T-Mobile bands. These official carrier unlocked phones are called "Open Market" phones by LG; these are the phones that LG usually lists in their LG Bootloader Unlock code eligible list.
Thus the thread I started, and subsequent XDA NEWS article. That turned out to NOT be true. The tweets we misleading.
Even so, we also hoped with root on the "Open Market" US998 we could activate the hidden T-Mobile network menus we could clearly see. THAT is also discussed in the thread.
Yet in all the time since then, no one has had any luck getting T-Mobile LTE band 71 working on any phone except U.S. T-Mobile H932.
@runningnak3d, the dev who ROOTED the T-Mobile H932 currently uses a US998 on T-Mobile. If anyone could get LTE band 71 on T-Mobile with US998, it would be him. . He hasn't, and he says LTE band 71 is not that important for him.
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We also found out the the only difference between the "official" carrier unlocked US998 V30 (64GB) sold by B&H Photo and the US998 V30 (64 GB) sold by U.S. Cellular is the B&H Photo V30 was secretly eligible for LG bootloader unlock code. One of my V30 used official LG bootloader unlock code, but we had to hack the LG dropdown menu on the LG Dev website to enter the information. LG has NEVER officially announced the Open Market US998 V30 is eligible. That does NOT work for the Open Market US998 V30+. So, only one of my phones was bootloader unlocked using that method.
However there was NO DIFFERENCE between the various US998 V30+ (128GB) sold by the any entities. NO US998 V30+ is eligible for LG bootloader unlock code, and ALL US998 V30/V30+ are actually carrier unlocked -- even those sold by U.S. Cellular.
LG was not forthcoming with any of this information. We had to figure it out by ourselves, through trial and error.
With WTF exploit, we are not dependent on LG for bootloader unlock code. But that developments did not happen until May 2018. My US998 V30+ was not bootloader unlocked and rooted until then.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Bob Simons said:
Of course I know it was you. that's why I'm asking you follow up questions.
I'm seeing comments along two theories and I dont i know which is more likely true. Theory one is that the 835 chips come in two types, ones that have band 71 capabilities and those tht dont, or the other theory which is that there are software modems thaat compensate for the lack of included band 71 modems, and where a certain software modem could add the capbility. In effect, some say that the US998 can never get band 71 and others say for example, that if you knew what you were doing wiht the Shortcut Master you could add the band, or alternatively, you could flash the correct rom or modem.
And so I start doing my homework and sure enough, you show up as one of the few that know anything about it.
I have no idea but I keep being told that things arent going to go the way I want them to. I'm hoping that I can get band 71 using this phone because I just bought this phone and I need or think I need band 71. It is why I bougnt this phone.
How do things look for me getting band 71? My clever plan to go to AT&T failed rather dramatically by my standards, even if you think I should be fine without the functions that so many people don't care about. Out in the boonies, T-Mpo is putting most of their efforts into band 71 and I spent a lot of time driving where there is no reception and I'm told there'd be a lot more if I could get that band. that's mainly why I bought the new phone as the V20 still works about the same, not getting band 71 every day.
I'm trying to learn about this phone after 2+ years with the H918 but I'll never pick up what you know any time soon, so I'm asking you.
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Bob, if you knew I wrote it and had already read the thread -- then why did you bring it up? If you read the thread you know it's not possible, as far as we know. I spent a lot of time trying to explain all that in my post and you already knew it. I didn't know how up to speed you were. If you had said, "I read this article, I read the whole thread, is there anything new, yes or no?" I would have simply said no, nothing new. Move on.
You are making my head hurt.
Here are your choices:
Go buy a new AT&T H931 from AT&T.
Go buy a mint AT&T H931 off Swappa you KNOW was bought from AT&T. Swappa instead of eBay this time because they check IMEI, etc before letting it be sold. Having been bought from AT&T rather than leftover stock from some warehouse, it SHOULD be in the AT&T system as eligible for all the stuff you want. If you are uncertain, then go buy straight from AT&T.
Go buy a T-mobile H931 if you want to stay with T-mobile and get LTE band 71.
no, I didnt understand and now I do
thanks. i thought it was supposed to be possible.
so my best bet is to get a 931 so I can pay less.
ChazzMatt said:
Bob, if you knew I wrote it and had already read the thread -- then why did you bring it up? If you read the thread you know it's not possible, as far as we know. I spent a lot of time trying to explain all that in my post and you already knew it. I didn't know how up to speed you were. If you had said, "I read this article, I read the whole thread, is there anything new, yes or no?" I would have simply said no, nothing new. Move on.
You are making my head hurt.
Here are your choices:
Go buy a new AT&T H931 from AT&T.
Go buy a mint AT&T H931 off Swappa you KNOW was bought from AT&T. Swappa instead of eBay this time because they check IMEI, etc before letting you sell it. Having been bought from AT&T rather than leftover stock from some warehouse, it will be in the AT&T system as eligible for all the stuff you want.
Go buy a T-mobile H931 if you want to stay with T-mobile and get LTE band 71.
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Bob Simons said:
thanks. i thought it was supposed to be possible.
so my best bet is to get a 931 so I can pay less.
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This tweet from T-mobile was what got our hopes up. The "unlocked" was the US998.
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yes, and stuff like that make my head explode and made me think that there was some way.
So now I have to see if I can return this ebay phone that I've rooted and go buy something else.
I can go to your page at https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-market-us998-t3736910
do you know which of the trwo (10c or 10d) is the 7.1.2 my phone came with?
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This tweet from T-mobile was basically a lie and got our hopes up.
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I picked up a V30S and now I have rooted it successfully. However, during the conversion from US998h to VS996k in TWRP, I lost the "S" part in the boot, and now it just says "LG V30 thinq" whereas it used to say "LG V30 thinq", like the attached picture.
I would like to get that back. I liked seeing the "S" part when it boots up, it feels more premium.
The same thing happened with my V30+, it lost the "+" once changing to VS996.
How can I get this original factory boot screen back?
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I picked up a V30S and now I have rooted it successfully. However, during the conversion from US998h to VS996k in TWRP, I lost the "S" part in the boot, and now it just says "LG V30 thinq" whereas it used to say "LG V30 thinq", like the attached picture.
I would like to get that back. I liked seeing the "S" part when it boots up, it feels more premium.
The same thing happened with my V30+, it lost the "+" once changing to VS996.
How can I get this original factory boot screen back?
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You can't get that back on Verizon firmware. Verizon didn't sell the V30+ nor V30S, only the V30.
You can get original factory boot screen back by flashing back to US998 firmware.
Which is what you'll do when you sell it eventually, but until then it doesn't really matter.
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You can't get that back on Verizon firmware. Verizon didn't sell the V30+ nor V30S, only the V30.
You can get original factory boot screen back by flashing back to US998 firmware.
Which is what you'll do when you sell it eventually, but until then it doesn't really matter.
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I'm looking for a way to hack it into the boot. Like replace the image of v30 with the V30S image at boot
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
I'm looking for a way to hack it into the boot. Like replace the image of v30 with the V30S image at boot
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If you could do that, people could claim to have V30+ who don't...
Good luck with that. Don't brick your phone.
I already know you can edit the other boot, so by the way I already know it is possible to put a boot screen of anything, after the initial boot screen, so your argument is pointless.
As far as tricking someone, anyone can look up the IMEI to find the true model of the phone. Also, you can look at the storage. If you put a "plus" on a 64gb non-plus that would be STUPID since both phones cost nearly the same.
Looking for someone to actually help. I do have the actual phone and I could show my IMEI to prove it. I bought this second phone for the 6GB of ram (I now have a V30 Plus AND a V30S). I looked for months to find one. Part of why I'd like to see the S in the boot screen since I put a lot of effort into finding this phone. I have no intentions of ever selling it. It's the perfect phone for me and I could see keeping it for many years.
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
I don't care about naysayers. I already know you can edit the other boot, so by the way I already know it is possible to put a boot screen of anything, after the initial boot screen, so your argument is pointless.
Looking for someone to actually help. I since I put a lot of effort into finding this phone. I have no intentions of ever selling it. It's the perfect phone for me.
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Yes, the V30/30+/v30S are fantastic phones. Congratulations on finding a V30S. A year ago when I was looking they were still too expensive and already have several V30/V30+.
I wasn't talking about YOU tricking someone, I was just talking about in general. Someone recently posted they want to do that, so people would think they v30+ when they only had V30. Don't know why, they weren't talking about cheating someone, they were talking about just bragging about it.
Lots of people have asked what you have, nobody's been able to do it.
Same thing with getting rid of the bootloader unlocked warning. The only way you can that is to do is what you did -- flash Verizon firmware. OR flash partial Verizon firmware -- which is dangerous for other variants because every time you update your firmware, if you don't match compatible firmware you brick your phone.
Good luck in your quest.
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Yes, the V30/30+/v30S are fantastic phones. Congratulations on finding a V30S. A year ago when I was looking they were still too expensive and already have several V30/V30+.
I wasn't talking about YOU tricking someone, I was just talking about in general. Someone recently posted they want to do that, so people would think they v30+ when they only had V30. Don't know why, they weren't talking about cheating someone, they were talking about just bragging about it.
Lots of people have asked what you have, nobody's been able to do it.
Same thing with getting rid of the bootloader unlocked warning. The only way you can that is to do is what you did -- flash Verizon firmware. OR flash partial Verizon firmware -- which is dangerous for other variants because every time you update your firmware, if you don't match compatible firmware you brick your phone.
Good luck in your quest.
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Yes, it (V30S) was hard to find. You can buy it from the LG website for a remarkable $900 (!!!) but of course that's not the real price. Heck they are selling a new V30 (regular! 64gb) on the LG website for over $900! LOL! I love my V30S, but it is not a significant improvement. It's nice to have a little more RAM but it's not any different at all besides that. Speed is pretty much the same. Only difference is marginally better multitasking. Worth it for me, but I wish I had 24GB of RAM lol. Heck I want 1 million gb of ram with a trillion petabytes of storage and a 99999 core neural network quantum cpu but hey that's a nice dream.
Actually, I already removed the bootloader unlocked warning. It disappears when you flash the Verizon variant, not sure if that's what you meant, but I have no warning anymore. Also, I had already removed the verizon boot as well, this is easy with ROM Toolbox Lite (choose "hide" not remove).
To clarify for readers, flashing to VS996 (verizon) from an LS998 or a US998 or even US998R (V30S, my current phone), is 100% safe. I've now done it on 3 phones. 2 of them former LS998 converted to US998 through the WTF method and then VS996. And 1 of them my US998R.
(p.s. you may get easily fixable bootloop if converting LS998 on PIE (Android 9) downgrading to US998 Oreo to prepare for bootloader unlock. You can easily get out of bootloop by holding voldown + power for 7 seconds until reboots, then at reboot logo keep holding voldown and then release power for a half a second and hold power again, then do the factory reset and it will get out of bootloop).
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
Actually, I already removed the bootloader unlocked warning. It disappears when you flash the Verizon variant, not sure if that's what you meant, but I have no warning anymore.
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Yes, that was what I meant. Verizon firmware doesn't have bootloader unlock warning because Verizon never imagined their phones could be bootloader unlocked. . Of all the 20 variants, only stock VS996 doesn't have bootloader unlock warning (that I know of).
So some people who don't want Verizon firmware but wanted to get rid of bootloader unlock warning started flashing just that specific VS9996partition governing that in Dev Patched LGUP -- and someone bricked their phone.
Because they kept using the same Verizon firmware but didn't realize as their variant is updated they had to also use updated VS996 firmware to replace that partition. (Sort of the same reason you can't be on early Oreo to flash current LOS-16 ROMs.)
Anyway, Devs said to stop doing that, it's not worth the risk.
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Yes, that was what I meant. Verizon firmware doesn't have bootloader unlock warning because Verizon never imagined their phones could be bootloader unlocked. . Of all the 20 variants, only stock VS996 doesn't have bootloader unlock warning (that I know of).
So some people who don't want Verizon firmware but wanted to get rid of bootloader unlock warning started flashing just that specific VS9996partition governing that in Dev Patched LGUP -- and someone bricked their phone.
Because they kept using the same Verizon firmware but didn't realize as their variant is updated they had to also use updated VS996 firmware to replace that partition. (Sort of the same reason you can't be on early Oreo to flash current LOS-16 ROMs.)
Anyway, Devs said to stop doing that, it's not worth the risk.
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I agree it's not wise to flash only part of a firmware. Better to flash the whole thing. You can get Verizon firmware to work on most other providers anyway as a bring your own device.
Just keep in mind Straight Talk does not like Sprint phones (you can find out your original model number using LG Mobile Support Tool, which, when plugged in, will tell you your ORIGINAL hardware model number, not your software model.) My friend has a V30 and Straight Talk was a disaster. I would say don't bother with straight talk.
Just use prepaid Verizon instead if you're trying to save money. Activate a legit Verizon phone first and then transfer the sim card into your phone. I was able to get both a V30+ and V30S to easily and seamlessly work on Verizon on VS996 firmware on BOTH prepaid and postpaid plans.
But as for flashing the full VS996 firmware, it will be perfectly fine on compatible models (e.g. LS998, US998, US998R, possibly others but I have not tested).
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
But as for flashing the full VS996 firmware, it will be perfectly fine on compatible models (e.g. LS998, US998, US998R, possibly others but I have not tested).
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Sure. I'm the one who wrote the Frankenstein instructions which came BEFORE WTF bootloader unlock exploit.
All the North American variants (EXCEPT for T-Mobile H932) can be completely cross flashed and converted to another: US998, AS998, LS998, VS996, H931, H933, and H932PR (Puerto Rico).
However, of all those, only US998 has fastboot flash commands.
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Sure. I'm the one who wrote the Frankenstein instructions which came BEFORE WTF bootloader unlock exploit.
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Thank you very much for your contributions! You are making the world a better place.
By the way I'll probably keep this phone until a fully rootable phone on verizon 160g or less weight with a better resolution screen 6.4" or bigger yet not any taller, with better cpu more ram and oled with microsd card slot and a few other specs comes out, and WITHOUT a notch or cutout.
So, I expect it will be years before such a phone comes out. Until then, this phone is the perfect phone for me.
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
more ram .
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This is not a computer. That extra RAM you want, and what OEM's like 1+ are doing, doesn't really do anything for the device other than make it more expensive.
OEM's are only doing it to please the masses.
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