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I thought the galaxy s2 had gorilla glass? Got two tiny scratches on the screen, kinda pissed because the phone is so new there are no screen protectors available.
I keep my phone in a pouch in my pocket, I thought this gorilla glass was unscratchable????
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there are no screen protectors available
Loads available .
Sharp object is the probable case of scratch but odd as its in a case .
jje
a key in your pocket might not scratch the screen, but some grains of sand for example can really mess with it.
even gorilla glass doesn't help against sand grains.
I keep repeating this... but you most likely scratched off some of the oleophobic coating, not the actual screen. It may look like scratches in certain angles or under certain light, but I bet you it's the coating.
dinan said:
I keep repeating this... but you most likely scratched off some of the oleophobic coating, not the actual screen. It may look like scratches in certain angles or under certain light, but I bet you it's the coating.
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So really hard glass covered by an easily scratched coating. If true, is there an easy, cheap fix? If not, then sounds like a screen protector is a good idea, even if the glass itself never scratches. Which kind of defeats the purpose of the Gorilla glass and the coating.
Nothing is unscratchable, unbreakable, unbeatable. GorillaGlass has the advatage of being resistant to the "usual" sources of scratching, but dust and sand are tricky bastards, that practically surrounds us and our precious phones.
When I first got my galaxy s, as careful as I was I still managed to get a few small scratches on it within the span of a few days. The only way to see them was when the screen was very clean and there was a direct source of light on it. Looking back it probably was a bit of sand or something sand like.
I ended up getting an sgp ultra clear protector. I would really recommend it once its out. But don't worry about small scratches. As long as you don't notice them when the screens on will be fine.
I think I'll end up cleaning my pockets religiously once I get my s2.
I think we all want to keep our babies scratch- and fingerprint free. With protectors, cloths and cases we make our best effords. On the other hand, not many of us keep our phones for more than a year (I had my SGS for six months before switching to the SGS2). So, for whom are we keeping the display in mint condition? The next buyer? I'm not saying that we all should throw our phones in pockets full of sand, keys and rusty nails, I'm just saying that common sense will keep our displays away from serious harm. To get annoyed over scratches that are only visible in bright, artificial light is probably not healthy.
MrDeacon said:
Nothing is unscratchable, unbreakable, unbeatable. GorillaGlass has the advatage of being resistant to the "usual" sources of scratching, but dust and sand are tricky bastards, that practically surrounds us and our precious phones.
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I understand. I have a Gorilla glass phone and have always used a screen protector. Mostly because I read many user reports very shortly after the phone came out about getting scratches for no apparent reason. I can't know if it was the coating or the glass itself that got scratched.
My point was if they coat Gorilla glass with a more easily scratchable film, and you have to cover it with a protector anyway then the purpose of the hard glass and the oleophobic coating are both pretty much defeated. Unless you prefer to go naked, have less fingerprints and put up with the scratches. There really needs to be a coating that's as hard as the glass.
I use a protector because it's easily replaced, so new surface cheap and simple anytime I need. Without it scratches seem difficult and/or expensive to fix.
I agree. But it becomes somewhat ridiculous when we're just stepping up on the screen protection ladder. So, we have GorillaGlass, which is protecting our display from scratches. Then we're putting on a screen protector to avoid scratching the scratch protective glass. And just in case, let's put the phone in a leather case or a pouch, so not to harm the screen protector. It's like having sex wearing three condoms; you will be safe as hell, but the feeling and the experience will be practically non-existent.
I was almost certain that the whole point of Gorilla Glass was to provide a stronger glass to prevent the screen from breaking upon impact - say, dropping the phone.
I've seen a billion iPhone 3GS's with shattered screens (wtf teens?!!!?).
Gorilla Glass is supposed to stop that from happening. It will scratch as easily as anything else.
Thanks for the feedback, one question tho. I've read that you can get rid of scratches on glass using some Cerium Oxide paste, has anyone tried it?
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SuperTheMando said:
I was almost certain that the whole point of Gorilla Glass was to provide a stronger glass to prevent the screen from breaking upon impact - say, dropping the phone.
I've seen a billion iPhone 3GS's with shattered screens (wtf teens?!!!?).
Gorilla Glass is supposed to stop that from happening. It will scratch as easily as anything else.
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Corning says increased scratch resistance is one of its features, as well as the break resistance you mention.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/faqs/all?page=1
"Gorilla Glass is better able to survive the real-world events that most commonly cause glass to scratch, chip, or break."
http://pdf.directindustry.com/pdf/corning/gorilla-glass-product-information-sheet/12631-67069.html
"High resistance to scratch damage"
But if they put an oleophobic coating on it the scratch resistance is nearly pointless. So you're rationale could make the most sense.
I agree that sand can really mess it up. My S2 has a scratch on the screen which can only be explained by sand from the beach. Even though I never brought my phone to the beach, it may have gotten inbetween my Samsung leather flip case somewhere, sometime, somehow in my shorts pocket.
I keep my phone away from small change and keys and all of a sudden, there is a small 3mm scratch near the middle to the right.
Honestly though? Everything about this phone is better than my old Motorola Milestone (which has been to many beaches), but the Milestone's glass touchscreen seems more durable.
So note to everyone with an S2 in a case: apparently sand can destroy the screen.
Wow i just noticed today ...I got the screen at the perfect angle of light & my screen is riddled with 1 inch scratches
I treat my GS2 like my baby ...it only goes in & out of my pocket
This is what made me to literally throw my iPhone in the garbage & I stopped developing for iPhone ...because of there marketing lies
I am developing a website to expose Samsung of all there lies ....it is probably totally true that Samsung endorses/pays/ gives people free devices to make YouTube videos .....To mislead people into thinking that Gorilla Glass doesn't scratch .....a crock of [email protected]%t !!
If I put my device in a series of angles I can see......mmmmmmmmmmmm 2 very, very tiny scratches. It takes like 10 min in proper light to spot them.
BTW: I did try to scratch it with a couple of keys back in may to show off; nailed it.
Actually rethinking ....I shouldn't be so hard on Samsung ...there maybe other factors involved ..that are sensible
& Corning/Gorilla glass is manufactured by Corning ...so it's not really "assumed" Samsungs fault for claiming that it is unscratchable !
But was wrong .....its Corning that claims there glass is unscratchable ...lol
Yes sand would scratch for sure ...but is it only sand !? ..or other rock particles ....metal doesn't seem to do anything ...maybe depending on type of metal ....winter road salt ?
Ehhm a key ..i think is way to blunt to scratch .....it could be from hitting the metal rivets on front jean pockets ...when sliding it out of my pocket ...but those are blunt also
Or so i either have sand in my pants or diamond particles :silly:
Does Gorilla glass on SGS2 requires screen protector / scratch guard ?
I read it's scratch resistant but not scratch proof. I'm planning on using a flip case like Zenus Carbon flip case so it has some protection on screen but might forgo the screen protector ? Haven't decided yet.
Looking at my leather case from phone in pocket small scratches .
jje
Dam, you had to say that heh. Looks like maybe screen protector is needed after all
I was really careful with my s1 and still managed to get small scratches on the screen. Gorilla glass seems to be fine with things like keys and stuff, but sand particles or anything similar will scratch the screen very easily.
Always make sure you have clean pockets or a clean case.
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Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
Shylesh said:
Asked several times and answered
Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
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Would you recommend some best brands.
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
I really love the screen on my phone and am loathe to put anything on it that will get in the way of it or ruin the feel when stroking the screen. I am looking to get a Zeuz carbon flip case which has micro fibre inner lining which is meant to prevent rubbing scratching the screen. Reading this thread has me wondering now
Pwgadget said:
I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
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Keys tend to be made from brass which is very soft. Sand however is much harder, mostly silicon with a MOHS value of 7 and will scratch glass and mild steel very easily.
Brass (Keys)= 3.5 MOHS
Steel = 5.5 - 7 MOHS
Sand = 7 MOHS
Gorilla glass???
now thats the question
Mustinky said:
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
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i have had my captivate for a year, totally naked the whole time, the only scratches i see, are very small, and only visible in bright light at different angles. I hate screen protectors, my infuse, and inspire are also naked, so i will not be putting one on my SGS2 either
Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
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Flowlance said:
Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
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I have a gravel drive way, one fall on my driveway screen side and it's bye bye. lol
Extreme184X said:
Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
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I've had every iPhone since the original and have NEVER (I repeat NEVER) scratched the screen (not even a miniscule scratch). That being said, on the iPhone 4 I've noticed many small little scratches on the back glass which says to me it's a different type of glass.
Assuming the SGS2 has the same glass as the front of the i4, I'll be keeping the front naked the way g-d (or Samsung) intended.
yep, sand is bad. Very abrasive. That why repair shops and auto body shops have sandpaper, sandblasters, sanding discs, etc. Sand will scratch anything but a diamond. Diamond is the hardest element on earth, so don't put your diamond earrings or wedding ring in your pocket with your phone. You'll be sorry lol
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Would you recommend some best brands.
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There is a detailed thread dedicated to this in the accessories section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065384
but I stand by
http://www.skinomi.com/
Had my SGS 2 for three days. Deep scratches in the glass. Gorilla glass my ass. Sad joke
Gorilla Glass or not, i'll put a screen protector on my phone...
Is it possible to polish scratches off of the screen? My phone has gotten some markings around the sensor area and scratches that distort the color coming from the screen. From the looks of it, it's a cover for the actual screen? Can I polish it somehow?
Thanks
I have the same question.
Has someone tried polishing out scratches on screen?
My X10 mini has some nasty scratches all over screen. As per my observation the digitizer is underneath the plastic glass and glass should be OK to polish.
I will buff the screen this weekend to try out and see if it will work.
i had the same prob and i tried a special cream for scratches (for cds) but i think nothing happens...so try screen protector instead
FYI, I thought this would be a good reference for people who have scratched screens. Original thread here. Has anyone found a better way to mitigate scratches?
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So my phone fell out of my pocket, screen directly landed on a rock on the ground. There was a nice scrape right in the dead center of the screen.
I found a product called 3M "Perfect-It III Trizact Machine Glaze", or otherwise known as "3M 06070". It is an aluminum silicate based polishing compound for removing swirlies from extremely high-gloss automotive finishes. The stuff is approximately $65 for a quart size from NAPA auto parts. For those who aren't aware, Gorilla Glass itself is an alkali-aluminosilicate, so this particular polishing compound is chemically compatible with the material the screen is made out of.
**Apparently Rezound is NOT Gorilla Glass (confirmed by Corning & HTC) but must have a very similar composition**
It works absolutely beautifully. I started by applying it with a polishing cloth and rubbing by hand, but I switched over to a polishing cloth Dremel tip in my cordless drill at low speed. Approximately 45 seconds worth of polishing the screen with the drill and scrape is hardly noticeable now. With a little more careful work, I believe it will be completely gone!
Unfortunately its expensive. $65/quart is really not that bad though, when you consider that most polishing compounds that are sold specifically for glass screen repair cost as much as $30 for 8 ounces, and in my experience are less effective than 3M 06070.
I hope this helps anybody with a damaged glass on the screen. Best bet is to just get a screen protector. Not having one is a potentially expensive mistake..
**NOTE**
While this does work on the Rezound, I would NOT attempt this on any other glass screen unless you can verify that it is real Gorilla Glass or some other aluminosilicate glass.
Alternately, if you prefer to simply replace the entire glass/digitizer portion of the phone, I have found one available online (for cheaper than this polishing compound too!) here at this site: http://www.gogotoshop.com/product_info.php?language=en¤cy=USD&products_id=4896
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will this damage the oleophobic coating on the display?
voluptuary said:
will this damage the oleophobic coating on the display?
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I've never tried this. But now I'm wondering the little scratch on my display is on the coating itself and not the glass...
Any way to repair the oleophobic coating?
Kills the oleophobic coating. i have a dull spot on my screen now...
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Kills the oleophobic coating. i have a dull spot on my screen now...
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If you applied it to the entire screen, would it even out the texture, even though it will "dull" out the entire screen? And how effective is it at removing scratches?
Like voluptuary said Lumia have that 3 layer anti-glare and anti-smudge coating on top of gorilla glass. Lumia's screen scratch resistance is really very poor because of this. In general it is very resistant, but sightless press with sharp edge will leave a noticeable mark.
As far as I know there are no cheap solutions. If scratch is really huge and annoying consider replacing the whole screen.
I managed to scratch my Nokia in 1st day of use by simply putting in pocket with keys. Never happened to my other phones (HTC Hero and Polaris).
I tried jewelers polish powder, aka cerium oxide. It worked pretty well for very light scratches, but deep ones are still visible. I used electrical drill and polish for about 1hr at 1000rpm speed. Just watch to not to overheat screen or it will break.
As a finishing polish I used Displex. All it does is applies protecting coating and removes all left over marks from cerium oxide. It's poor mans choice, don't expect miracles.
Also any kind screen polishing will reduce effectiveness or even damage that anti-smudge effect. So be warned.
Hi ist this actually the best glass polish?
Is this 3M "Perfect-It III Trizact "50077" or "06070" from 3M?
But there is also "3M Glass Polishing Compound" with the type number "60150".
The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
Screenshot of the bought screenprotectors:
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Well put another one like that, its almost impossible, already its a thread in here for that, how to remove it and the options for a new one
kekkle said:
The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
Screenshot of the bought screenprotectors:
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That's because you're supposed to cover the anti-shatter sheet (which is not a screen protector just anti-shatter) with a screen protector that you can easily replace.
I just posted a thread in this same forum section about official Sony ones I got from Japan. But remember they are not the same as your anti-shatter sheet, you're supposed to put them on top of the anti-shatter sheet.
In terms of what they cover, they are the closest to the anti-shatter sheet as they cover all the sensors, the Sony ones just don't cover the camera and the earpiece.
If you order the Sony potector, you have two choices. You can either put it on top of the anti-shatter sheetand hope you wont be able to see the scratch anymore through this one or you can remove the anti-shatter sheet and place this one down alone. Its up to you.
I've already removed the sheet. It's now completely free of protection as I screwed up putting on the screen protector.
It's more sensitive dust and fingermarks now, but overall I'm happy. Will be placing a screen protector on it soon again when I get around to it.
Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
Should i remove the screen protector
I have Scractched My Sony Xperia S , and it kinds of irritates when there is more White ,, I heard and read that the factory applied screen Protector can be removed, the Question is , is it a screen Protector or a shatter Protector..
In the case i do remove it how do i clean the glass if there is any residue gum and will it affect the screen in any way... Should i Put on a New screen Protector Once i Remove the original Factory fitted one.
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That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
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does Xperia U have the same screen shatter protector? mine is scratched in the second day, now I applied a screen protector over it
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Yes it is a shatter protector thick layer, I damaged mine too (Xperia P), I removed it and then applied a good quality screen protector, no residue no marks are left when the shatter protection is removed, hope this helps.
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I had no idea the provided protectors had to go on top of the already applied one. Is it written in the manual/instructions?
Anyway, what is a good screen protector that can replace the shatter one to a good enough standard? I have scratches on mine, a rather large scuff over the front camera, making it unusable. So I suppose I could remove it and replace it with a protector?
Any recommendations?
It doesn't prevent shatter, i know that for a fact!
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Thats probably why it's not called a shatter preventor protector
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How easily can the screen without the preapplied protector be scratched? Just from carrying in a jeans pocket?
Should I apply a screenprotector if I remove the original one?
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The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
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The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
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This.
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Yeah if I put my face up to the screen during direct sunlight I can just make out tiny scratches. Some of them are not permanent and some clearly are. The screen has been very good vs heavy scratches, but still gets light scratches like every other phone screen I have had. If you were to put a screen protector on you wouldnt even notice the scratches. Light scratches will always happen and it doesnt really bother me unless I can see them.
Edit: I did receive a free Spigen screen protector so I will try it out and see if I like it or not just for the hell of it. Generally though I prefer the naked screen and even my old hero with gorilla glass 1 came through just fine except for the minute almost imperceptible scraches.
Folks, Gorilla Glass is a marketing ploy. It doesn't offer any real scratch resistance over normal glass, but the compound it's made of makes it less likely to shatter (two different things). When it comes to scratch resistance, you're looking at the Mohs scale.
Mohs scale of mineral hardness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You may be more familiar with this than you think. Diamond is a 10, the hardest substance known to man. Diamond can only be scratched by another diamond or a laser.
Glass has a rating of 6-7, depending on the hardness of the glass. Plastic is a 3-4.
If you take your keys over a glass screen (or a glass window), touch it to the surface, and rub with a little pressure (just enough to gain a degree of resistance), you WILL NOT scratch the glass. I've even scared the crap out of someone by hacking at my Zune HD's screen with a carbon-steel steak knife, and not a scratch.
So what will cause you to scratch your glass screen? Two things;
-a softer material (like metal) and force, not resistance. Yes, if you slam something into the screen, it may very well get a small crack, small enough that we see it as a scratch. Because, while glass is very scratch resistant, it easily shatters. It's force that gives us those small "scratches."
-dirt/sand - Sand (quartz sand, specifically) is an active ingredient in glass. If you get small particles of sand or other types of dirt on the screen and then wipe it off with your shirt (or even a microfiber cloth), you can develop small scratches in your screen. The most annoying is those who wipe with a circular motion, as it leaves rings in the screen. Want to avoid this? Take a SMALL amount of Endust for Electronics and a paper towel and gently wipe off the screen. The liquid will act as a buffer between the screen and the dirt. Then, take a microfiber cloth (those little eyeglass cleaning cloths that come with screen protectors) and wipe off the residue left by the Endust and any pieces of the paper towel.
When you use a quality screen protector (SGP, Clarivu, Martin Fields), you're putting a plastic overlay over the phone. While this will scratch more easily than the glass screen, if applied correctly, it acts as a shock absorber, thus making it harder for the screen to shatter. It protects from scratches by taking the scratches itself, and it protects from shattering by absorbing the force of the blow.
The wet applications like the Invisible Shield are so thin that they don't noticeably increase shatter resistance. They'll just keep the screen together when shattered. The Invisible Shield is harder to scratch though, making it so that you don't have to replace it as often (it looks nicer longer than a normal plastic screen protector). Basically, it protects from scratches by deflecting them, but doesn't offer any real shock absorption.
Gorilla glass claims a hardness of 9 on Mohs scale which is utter bs. It realistically has a hardness of about 7-7.5 max. Normal glass can range from 6-7.2 depending on the type. Diamond is 10 and Sapphire is 9 which is what the make high end watch faces out of but is damn expensive. If Gorilla Glass was a 9 then they would use it for the watch faces since it is much much cheaper. I have a Citizen watch that has sapphire and the face is scratched as **** because I have had it for 12 years.
Remember as long as the scratches are the insanely small type caused by sand grains and such, you can easily get some special polish and buff those right out. The one nice thing about our screens not having oleophobic coating is you dont have to worry about damaging the coating when you polish it.
The best way for a manufacturer to reduce scratches is to put a chin on the phone like the Hero had. This way the phone screen never touches the ground.
When I got the phone I thought that the phone had one screen protector installed and that the other one in the packge was spare. How wrong I was. Now the shatter-resistant protector is full of small scrathes, even tough I haven't had keys or anything else on the same pocket. I've had the phone for about three months now.
I ordered Martin Shields few days ago, and I'm going to replave the shatter-resistant protector with that.
I had Wrapsol on my Galaxy Note and was pretty satisfied with it, but unfortunately they don't make one for P. My wife has Zagg on her Galaxy S, but it's bit too stick for my taste.
I put a screen protector on today to test it with one and it was on for all of 30 seconds before I tore it off. I just cant stand the things. Perfect thing for me would be a fold over case but as I use my left hand for the phone, they all fold the wrong way.
The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
revan17 said:
The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
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It gets better after a while. Mine is nice and smooth. I got a free spigen clear with my case but it didn't feel as good as bare glass.
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I can't stand the edge it adds by the bar on the bottom.
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