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Hello fellow Atrix users. I bought the phone recently from amazon. I have a question regarding the camera on Atrix. When i was taking the shot, I can see the dust like thing going on. However, after I took the shot, the pictures are pretty clear. The front VGA camera did this kind of thing also. Do yours act the same way?
hanming said:
Hello fellow Atrix users. I bought the phone recently from amazon. I have a question regarding the camera on Atrix. When i was taking the shot, I can see the dust like thing going on. However, after I took the shot, the pictures are pretty clear. The front VGA camera did this kind of thing also. Do yours act the same way?
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Dust? Are you talking about the grainy effect? If that is what you are seeing, that is normal for auto-focus cameras.
live4nyy said:
Dust? Are you talking about the grainy effect? If that is what you are seeing, that is normal for auto-focus cameras.
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100% correct. Even my $1000 DSLR with a $700 lens looks grainy when I use live view through the LCD (Which is why you almost never see any pro photographers use the LCD). Using a LCD screen (on any camera device) to see what you're shooting is more a general representation of what your aiming at than the actual outcome.
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Dust? Are you talking about the grainy effect? If that is what you are seeing, that is normal for auto-focus cameras.
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No.. it is not what i was talking about. The dust like thing is like you are watching a tv and something interference with it which causes it to show a lot of small dots coming up. it is something like this picture:
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But after i took the pictures, and the photos are sent to the gallery, the picture is pretty clean and does not have this effect.
Edit: NVM.. i see your point... That means my Atrix is not a defective one! Yeah Thanks
hanming said:
No.. it is not what i was talking about. The dust like thing is like you are watching a tv and something interference with it which causes it to show a lot of small dots coming up. it is something like this picture:
http 4 dot bp dot blogspot dot com/-Ri8h4lUS2L8/TX2lQDpwQEI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/e-kZtLL93LQ/s1600/IMG_4077 dot JPG
But after i took the pictures, and the photos are sent to the gallery, the picture is pretty clean and does not have this effect.
Edit: NVM.. i see your point... That means my Atrix is not a defective one! Yeah Thanks
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No problemo
I'm wondering if I'm alone on this... Coming from the evo 4g, I am extremely underwhelemed by the quality of the camera on this phone.
It has a hard time not blurring things when you take it's picture, whereas my evo could literally snap a picture of a roller coaster at full speed with ease.
It doesn't expose properly and leaves flares everywhere and washed out areas of the picture, if the whole picture isn't destroyed.
You can forget about low light situations, if it's even at dusk the camera won't be able to see anything without a flash.
And then the camera button... Oh my. When I try to use it (and maybe I just have clumsy hands), I can't hold the phone still and then the half way down to focus feature always screws me up. If I press it all the way down, it doesnt bother focusing, it just takes a picture in whatever focus it has. So, I have to carefully press it halfway down, not move, and then take it after. FRUSTRATION.
Sorry for the vent, but the camera was one of my favorite features on the 4g and this phone has taken it from me... 3d or not.
I love the camera button. Just hold the camera button down to the first click for 2 seconds, let it focus, the fully press it down and keep your hand still. You'll get a good picture if you do this. But if you move your hand while its taking the picture, then of course youll get a blurry picture. That's user error, not camera error.
Read this:
http://therootofallevo.com/2011/07/evo-3d-getting-the-most-out-of-your-camera-2d-pictures/
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I love the camera button. Just hold the camera button down to the first click for 2 seconds, let it focus, the fully press it down and keep your hand still. You'll get a good picture if you do this. But if you move your hand while its taking the picture, then of course youll get a blurry picture. That's user error, not camera error.
Read this:
http://therootofallevo.com/2011/07/evo-3d-getting-the-most-out-of-your-camera-2d-pictures/
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Thanks for the article, looks helpful! I can't help my shaky hands though. Maybe I'll design a camera tripod.
Richard_Danger said:
I love the camera button. Just hold the camera button down to the first click for 2 seconds, let it focus, the fully press it down and keep your hand still. You'll get a good picture if you do this. But if you move your hand while its taking the picture, then of course youll get a blurry picture. That's user error, not camera error.
Read this:
http://therootofallevo.com/2011/07/evo-3d-getting-the-most-out-of-your-camera-2d-pictures/
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Wow. What a article. That should be posted on all *****ing threads about the cam. Make a thread with that link. I bet we wont get another bad pic *****ing....
Edit-Not directed at you Op, i guess just me *****ing
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Cryt said:
And then the camera button... Oh my. When I try to use it (and maybe I just have clumsy hands), I can't hold the phone still and then the half way down to focus feature always screws me up. If I press it all the way down, it doesnt bother focusing, it just takes a picture in whatever focus it has. So, I have to carefully press it halfway down, not move, and then take it after. FRUSTRATION.
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I have the same issue with camera button. I now ONLY use the screen button and it works much better.
I'm not sure it's a shake issue or not. But when using the camera button the often come out blurry and when using the screen button they are fine.
Adjusting settings does help but the camera still sucks balls. I'll take iPhone 4 cam vs this one any day.
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I love the camera button. Just hold the camera button down to the first click for 2 seconds, let it focus, the fully press it down and keep your hand still. You'll get a good picture if you do this. But if you move your hand while its taking the picture, then of course youll get a blurry picture. That's user error, not camera error.
Read this:
http://therootofallevo.com/2011/07/evo-3d-getting-the-most-out-of-your-camera-2d-pictures/
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Thanks a bunch for this. should be stickied
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Richard_Danger said:
I love the camera button. Just hold the camera button down to the first click for 2 seconds, let it focus, the fully press it down and keep your hand still. You'll get a good picture if you do this. But if you move your hand while its taking the picture, then of course youll get a blurry picture. That's user error, not camera error.
Read this:
http://therootofallevo.com/2011/07/evo-3d-getting-the-most-out-of-your-camera-2d-pictures/
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Thanks for the link. Make sure you read to the bottom, that's where he says:
Your new default settings should be: ISO 100, exposure –1, contrast +1, saturation +1, sharpness +1. This is for virtually all good lighting conditions.
Torrentula81 said:
Adjusting settings does help but the camera still sucks balls. I'll take iPhone 4 cam vs this one any day.
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I agree totally! The camera on this phone sucks just like it did on the OG Evo. Who the hell has time to play with all of those settings, taking numerous pictures of the same thing trying to get it right. He is correct we are not professional photographers and if we were we wouldn't be using our phone to do it with. We just want a simple point & shoot camera that gives us good pictures. Even as much as it pains me to say, but like the camera on the iPhone 4. I have taken a bunch of pics & videos with it, inside & out, low light and sunlight and I've always gotten a a great pic/video with auto settings unlike the camera on the OG Evo and Evo 3D. Hell any HTC phone for that matter. They make great phones but they always skimp when it comes to the camera.
beyond882001 said:
Wow. What a article. That should be posted on all *****ing threads about the cam. Make a thread with that link. I bet we wont get another bad pic *****ing....
Edit-Not directed at you Op, i guess just me *****ing
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Sorry, but no amount of software tweaks will overcome a ****ty sensor and lens. I love my Evo 3D, but the camera sucks ass. The pictures in that link look decent only because they're majorly downsized.
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Sorry, but no amount of software tweaks will overcome a ****ty sensor and lens. I love my Evo 3D, but the camera sucks ass. The pictures in that link look decent only because they're majorly downsized.
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I can post the original sized pictures and for comparison, they look good both ways.
I have to say it's very disingenuous to say that the camera sucks. I have two friends that are professional photographers and they both have been very impressed with the pictures I posted in the article. I looked to them both for advice on this article. Are they perfect? Of curse not. But they are still very good. I dont mean this to be disrespectful, but the problem also seems to be user, not just software. I also want to add that once you change the settings the settings typically stay that way so you don't always have to adjust them. At the end of the day there is a difference between having a bad sensor and having bad software. The EVO 3D is limited to bad software but can be helped by adjusting the settings.
One last thing. I originally posted the pictures in their true size. But thanks to Windows Live not playing nice with WordPress the entire article had to be redone and somehow the size was reduced. I can certainly post the original size later when I get home. I really hope the article helps people out with their picture quality. To those that don't agree, it's fine. Can't make everyone happy lol.
@major thanks for postin the article brosef lol
This post was NOT meant to troll btw! Just trying to shed some light, thank people for their comments, and clarify some stuff.
ONE MORE THING!! Dont use the camera button!! I completely forgot to mention that. But as much as I loved the idea of having a deticated button for the life of me they always come out blurry! I have no idea why. So I just use the onscreen button.
I cant get any good outside shots with the 3vo.... Look at this the first is shot with a sensation the other 3 are taken with my 3vo different settings each time nowhere near as clear focus is off, they are grainy just look plain terrible i literally just walked in from taking these
More taken today
The problem i am having is the when taking pictures, is the picture always looks dimmed after taking the shot. I could take a picture of the beach on a sunny day and it would look in the picture as if was a coudly day.All my outside shots are dimmed. And forget low light shots.I played around with settings nothing seems to matter. Not sure why check out the picture below, this is a picture on the beach bright sunny day out . Any idea's on whats going on here?
See my low lights are amazing i took this in a completely dark room no lights at all
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The problem i am having is the when taking pictures, is the picture always looks dimmed after taking the shot. I could take a picture of the beach on a sunny day and it would look in the picture as if was a coudly day.All my outside shots are dimmed. And forget low light shots.I played around with settings nothing seems to matter. Not sure why check out the picture below, this is a picture on the beach bright sunny day out . Any idea's on whats going on here?
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Ryan00 said:
The problem i am having is the when taking pictures, is the picture always looks dimmed after taking the shot. I could take a picture of the beach on a sunny day and it would look in the picture as if was a coudly day.All my outside shots are dimmed. And forget low light shots.I played around with settings nothing seems to matter. Not sure why check out the picture below, this is a picture on the beach bright sunny day out . Any idea's on whats going on here?
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Wow. That's really bad. I'd say part of the problem is the white balance. I think the EVO's white balance problem is really affecting certain images than others. I'll be going down the shore this weekend. I'll take some beach shots. No reason it should look that bad 0_o
I do wonder if there are some cameras that do have bad sensors... I've heard a few people on Android Central get an exchang and the new phone had better quality with no green tint..
mikeyfg said:
See my low lights are amazing i took this in a completely dark room no lights at all
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Holy crap ! this is a good picture for being a a dark room. That would never work or me. I wonder why some people get better pictures then others ?
mikeyfg said:
See my low lights are amazing i took this in a completely dark room no lights at all
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That does look good. My low light pictures come out really good. There's definitely a software issue going on. But I'm starting to wonder if *possibly* there's some faulty cameras out there.. Ze plot thickens
JerzyIroc said:
I have to say it's very disingenuous to say that the camera sucks. I have two friends that are professional photographers and they both have been very impressed with the pictures I posted in the article. I looked to them both for advice on this article. Are they perfect? Of curse not. But they are still very good. I dont mean this to be disrespectful, but the problem also seems to be user, not just software. I also want to add that once you change the settings the settings typically stay that way so you don't always have to adjust them. At the end of the day there is a difference between having a bad sensor and having bad software. The EVO 3D is limited to bad software but can be helped by adjusting the settings.
One last thing. I originally posted the pictures in their true size. But thanks to Windows Live not playing nice with WordPress the entire article had to be redone and somehow the size was reduced. I can certainly post the original size later when I get home. I really hope the article helps people out with their picture quality. To those that don't agree, it's fine. Can't make everyone happy lol.
@major thanks for postin the article brosef lol
This post was NOT meant to troll btw! Just trying to shed some light, thank people for their comments, and clarify some stuff.
ONE MORE THING!! Dont use the camera button!! I completely forgot to mention that. But as much as I loved the idea of having a deticated button for the life of me they always come out blurry! I have no idea why. So I just use the onscreen button.
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Thanks a bunch for posting that article. Like you said "can't please everybody" Well you sure helped me out. I didn't know jack crap about the settings. Now I got a pretty good idea. I was always just a point and shoot type guy. Never messed with the settings cause I didn't know how they affected the rest of the picture. So thanks again. Anytime someone tries to help out on this site. Actually I think its just the e3d section. Wasn't like this on the hd2 side. You always got some dickhead putting in there 2cents.
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Is driving me absolutely nuts. Anyone else?
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Same issue here
bmxant said:
Is driving me absolutely nuts. Anyone else?
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What is the issue? That picture doesn't really show much.
SPIDERTECH said:
What is the issue? That picture doesn't really show much.
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I'm assuming it's the red-ish glow in the center? That's the only thing I notice other than my topic listed right by the mouse cursor...
Kadin said:
I'm assuming it's the red glowing in the center? That's the only thing I notice other than my topic listed right by the mouse cursor...
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Ahhhh...gotcha. I went back and looked at it again and noticed it this time. I just got my GS2 and it's still charging, but I'll take some pics when I turn it on and post back with the results.
Is this on all pictures you take?
Here's a picture I just took...
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Kadin said:
Here's a picture I just took...
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That's not as bad, but my Infuse had zero issues, same with my iPhone 3GS.
The lighting is pretty bad in this room as well, so that explains the difference between my photo and yours.
Edit: @SPIDERTECH: It seems to be on ALL photos in crappy lighting. Can't notice it during the day while outside.
Just googled the issue and there are tons of documented cases and complaints out there Seems to be an issue with the hardware.
Take a picture of something that isn't viewing-angle-dependent before claiming there's an issue please.
My first instinct is that the camera is somewhat IR-sensitive (this is EXTREMELY common in cell phone cameras due to lack of space for a hot mirror filter) and the screens being imaged have higher IR content when viewed dead-on. (In both pictures, the red spot appears where the camera is viewing the screen dead-on. In the first picture the camera was centered in front of the screen, in the second the camera was at the lower right aimed up and left.)
Entropy512 said:
Take a picture of something that isn't viewing-angle-dependent before claiming there's an issue please.
My first instinct is that the camera is somewhat IR-sensitive (this is EXTREMELY common in cell phone cameras due to lack of space for a hot mirror filter) and the screens being imaged have higher IR content when viewed dead-on. (In both pictures, the red spot appears where the camera is viewing the screen dead-on. In the first picture the camera was centered in front of the screen, in the second the camera was at the lower right aimed up and left.)
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That explains a lot.....So it's not a hardware fault? Just a limitation?
Mine done the red thing with taking a pic of my screen but here is a pic I took outside
http://filehostonline.com/files/1/website/20111003_150501.jpg
bmxant said:
That explains a lot.....So it's not a hardware fault? Just a limitation?
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I'll take a further look at it tonight, but IR sensitivity is not exactly rare in digital cameras, especially cheaper/smaller ones. Good hot mirrors (IR-blocking filters) cost money AND they're large.
Yeah I have the same problem, I took pictures of the tile floor at my parents house, and it had a red center to it also, is their a way to fix this?
Also for the love of god, why does this video camera not have image stabilization? every video is shaky as hell.
hyelton said:
Mine done the red thing with taking a pic of my screen but here is a pic I took outside
http://filehostonline.com/files/1/website/20111003_150501.jpg
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man, that's a great yard and view there!
Hopefully no trouble here ..
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Hello everyone, I may be missing something but i was playing around with the camera on this great phone and realized that the normal press and hold of the shutter button to have the camera focus in a dark room does not work. If you press and hold the camera takes shots in burst mode. If you press it once the flash lights up dimly but does not focus properly and then flashes full blast but takes a blurry photo. This is very annoying because im used to my samsung s3 and note 2 that would focus by holding the shutter button in a dark room and then release to take a clear focused picture.
Am I missing something? for a camera that is good in low light and have 5 levels of flash intensity it seems to make no sense to not be able to focus in a dark room. whats the point of having a camera with a flash that cant take a picture in the dark or semi dark room right?
let me know if you are having this issue, if you think i'm doing something wrong or maybe if ill just have to deal with it until HTC comes out with an update. if it happens to you we can all call 8664498358 and press 0 and let HTC know this is very annoying I have gotten through to a live person instantly by calling this number to ask why in the world the power saver feature is persistent in the notification drop down....there reason....dummy instructions and to many service returns for "bad batteries"
UPDATE: I have spoke with HTC on a separate issue and mentioned this to the guy i spoke with and he has not had any other feedback on this issue, how ever he advised me to have anyone who is having this issue please contact them, he was not able to duplicate it yet because he in not in a dark room but he said he will try it when he can (Thanks Fred). the more people who report the issue and provide feedback the better chances they can get it resolved, I am having this issue on my wifes phone and my phone. you may need to focus on a far object and then try to focus on a near object in a dark room, like a room with less then low light. In my case it was in a room only lit by an old crt tv (bedroom) how ever he advised me the more feedback the better, they are very interesting in hearing from us and he is very aware of the xda forums as well as other android forums out there.
so no one cares. nice
So much for the community. No one seems to care even though plenty of you guys have looked and all own this phone. Pretty disgraceful.
EDIT: Sorry if I sound rude or condescending, Just surprised no one has commented yet or has said they are having this issue, personally I use my phone for taking photos in less then low light situations often and if this issue cant get resolved its going to really suck. HTC can fix it but needs the feedback to know that its widespread and not just a fluke, although they do know that its happening on my wifes phone and my phone.
I've tried it, and it doesn't auto-focus either. Manually focusing before taking the picture works though.
Zolor23 said:
I've tried it, and it doesn't auto-focus either. Manually focusing before taking the picture works though.
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Thank you very much for the reply, I have tried to manual focus and it doesnt work for me in very dark situations. sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't though. I have noticed if I focus on something distant in a low light area and then back on something near in a very dark area it will not focus. Every other camera I have used on a phone has lit up the flash long enough and bright enough to focus and turn the focus indicator green how ever this camera seems to focus on speed and seems to not care about weather the picture is focused, it doesn't turn red or beep or anything it just takes a blurry photo. it takes more blurry photos then clear it seems to me in low light or less then low light conditions.
If you could please contact HTC and let them know I would be very happy and hopefully they get this issue fixed, I have called HTC a few times for other issues. yesterday my lock screen kept saying today was cinco de mayo and for the life of me I couldnt figure out how to turn that off and I also am not happy about the Gallery app showing every single friend photo including horribly low resolution ones not to mention the persistant power saver notification in the drop down thats so stupid! but when I talked to them they mentioned the camera issue and wanted me to explain to them cause they saw the notes based on my phone number and previous calls, they would like all the feedback they can get.
This isn't just a T-Mobile HTC One issue, my international is doing this too.
I'd be interested to know from someone that doesn't have this problem, in a dark room, if you tap on the screen to focus, does the light come on?
All other phones I've had would light the area to focus, as you've said above this just tries to focus in the dark. How can that be right?
I've tried different ROM's and firmware, always tries to focus in the dark. Why on earth would it do this!?!?!
Yeah I noticed that problem too when trying to take a picture of a person in a life like Iron Man costume in a theater Friday night.
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lets get this fixed!
Boy I'm glad I'm not the only one. I know we are about fixing stock and nodding and what not but please start a ticket on the issue. HTC has a place on there website for this or you can call them.
Hey guys, I've never posted here, I mostly just lurk and try to learn things.
My question is a bit difficult to explain but I'll try my best. Do me a favor and take a photo while completely covering the camera lens, then view the photo in the gallery. Make sure youre in a dark room and viewing the photo in full screen, wait a second for the back and task manager buttons to turn off as well.
Is your picture completely black or are the outside edges and corners fuzzy and white almost?
My previous phones are Galaxy S1, 2, 3 and 4 along with the Note 3 (which I miss :/ ) never had a problem like this, I do believe some GS2s had a similar problem with the screen being spotty in black images.
thanks.
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Hey guys, I've never posted here, I mostly just lurk and try to learn things.
My question is a bit difficult to explain but I'll try my best. Do me a favor and take a photo while completely covering the camera lens, then view the photo in the gallery. Make sure youre in a dark room and viewing the photo in full screen, wait a second for the back and task manager buttons to turn off as well.
Is your picture completely black or are the outside edges and corners fuzzy and white almost?
My previous phones are Galaxy S1, 2, 3 and 4 along with the Note 3 (which I miss :/ ) never had a problem like this, I do believe some GS2s had a similar problem with the screen being spotty in black images.
thanks.
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Hello there, I did a test for you on mine, when i was in my room with my lights on but completely covered the lens and mine came out fuzzy. It seems that the s5 camera is very powerful picking up the slightest bit of light !
Then I turned off the lights in my room and did the same test, this time it was pitch black.
Did you try turning all your lights off in your room?
Thanks for your input, my initial test was in a room with the lights off. Looks so bad :/
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Thanks for your input, my initial test was in a room with the lights off. Looks so bad :/
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I noticed that with my camera too. The exact same thing happens to me too when I cover the camera, in both lighted and unlighted rooms. But I'm pretty sure it's normal. When your ISO is on auto, you'll notice that the camera turns up the ISO past what you can manually set it at (800). So since they're bumping up the ISO so high (probably ~1600 in dark areas), there's going to be considerable amounts of noise, even with very low light.
You can see for yourself that if you compare auto ISO and ISO 800 in a dark room, the latter will be much more pitch black like you expect it to be.