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Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
Da9L said:
Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
if you want to know if your phone is rooted download and install "Super user" and run it,you will then know if your phone is rooted or not.
I,like you,was a WM user and found android to be more complicated,but in fact it´s not...once you root your phone and install Amon-RA recovery ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4549551&postcount=1 ) its much easier and simple to do things.
theres a sticky in this sub-forum with wiki-guides,read it!
Branwen said:
Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
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True used a lot those roms.
Waiting patiently for a Vanillain rom based in eris dump.
Right now im still using AychTeeSee's just to be able to use the Buuf Theme
I'm in the exact same situation as Da9L . Could you please let me know if flashing a new ROM will also change the Firmware version?
Currently my firmware is 1.5. I've seen on a friend's G1 the voice search widget and I'm dying to get that on my device. From what I've been told, i need to get a newer firmware, but I've got no idea on how to do this.
Any help would be appreciated ^_^
Some questions:
So the short line of the process of flashing a custom rom is when using unbranded htc hero:
1. Downgrade my software to 1.76, as iam using the newest
2. Root the device acording to _this_ guide
3. Perform a backup
4. Flash the custom rom as i flash a stock rom?
Is that it? It leads me to some more questions
What is this "recovery image" and is there any reason to flash a new one?
And why is there any reason to change this at all ?
How do i get danish xt9 for sms?
And please i have a feeling that i am getting this wrong.. Can you please explain to me the procedure of doing all this ?
Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
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Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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That sounds great. However, since this is so new to me i do not know what new tweaks and apps i will be able to use and get if you follow me? When i have flashed a new custom rom, propably android 2.1, i do not know what new things it has and therefore where and how to use these new functions. And does the real advantage in a custom rom also get to a normal user or is the advantages more directed at the developers or?
Basically what I'm trying to do is make an insecure/rooted kernel and a custom ICS ROM for the Samsung Galaxy Player 3.6. I don't have enough knowledge and experience to do this completely on my own, so if anyone's willing to help that would be great.
For rooting I know that because it's 2.3.6 there's no universal way to root. I've heard that the only way to root 2.3.6 is by flashing an insecure, or rooted kernel, while I'm savvy enough to flash the kernel and/or provide the files, I have no idea how to build one.
For a custom ICS ROM it's the same, I'm savvy enough to flash a ROM and provide files, but not even close to knowing how to build one. I'd like the ROM based off of CM10, if possible.
I'm willing to test out anything remotely stable that doesn't have a large chance of bricking my device. I know the amount of people who are interested in this is small, but we will all be very grateful.
I thought most custom roms automatically allowed the user root access. After all, managing users and permissions is a function of the kernel, which gets replaced when you flash a new rom, doesn't it?
Of course, there is a very good chance I'm mistaken or just wrong. Either way, this is a great chance to learn the how's and why's of droid development.
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I thought most custom roms automatically allowed the user root access. After all, managing users and permissions is a function of the kernel, which gets replaced when you flash a new rom, doesn't it?
Of course, there is a very good chance I'm mistaken or just wrong. Either way, this is a great chance to learn the how's and why's of droid development.
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Sorry if it didn't seem clear, but in the end I'm wanting to create a custom ICS ROM, but right now I'm wanting to at least root.
Is there a reason to dual boot on a phone? Why not just flash a new ROM if a person wants to try a new ROM? Is there really a point in having multiple ROMs on the phone? I could understand it if it were possible to flash an entirely seperate OS to it, but since android is android is android, why bother doing it?
Reason is simple. You currently got a stable rom but you wanna try another rom to make sure if everything goes well before porting over . This saves a lot of time in restoring your backup if the "new" rom you are trying is problematic or you dislike it.
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Reason is simple. You currently got a stable rom but you wanna try another rom to make sure if everything goes well before porting over . This saves a lot of time in restoring your backup if the "new" rom you are trying is problematic or you dislike it.
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I had dual booted before....
I flashed neat Rom as secondary with sammy 4.3 as primary and baam! Error state 7....
So the point is, its not good practice (the trying ROM part, otherwise I love dual booting)
Make sure to make a nand backup
Well,
I db to get the sammy features along with aosp, like one would be set up for battery, other for daily use etc...
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Is there a reason to dual boot on a phone? Why not just flash a new ROM if a person wants to try a new ROM? Is there really a point in having multiple ROMs on the phone? I could understand it if it were possible to flash an entirely seperate OS to it, but since android is android is android, why bother doing it?
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my two cents
one of the reasons is that Sammy ROM is not that frequently updated.. another reason is that kitkat is still being improved.. so what do you do when you want to try kitkat too and also have need for longer battery life, better camera etc.
Hi,
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S4 i545 (Verizon) that has the locked bootloader, and therefore has limited ROMs available. I am considering picking up a used LG G3 and would like to know if there are any "gotchas" to be aware of? Has Verizon & AT&T locked the bootloaders to the G3 as well, or is root and custom recovery a go for all versions?
Appreciate your feedback!
Short answer: You can root and "Bump" the boot-loader;
Longer answer (obviously there is a MUCH longer and complete answer, but this should get you started): Depending on who you talk to, the Boot-loader is quasi/unlocked. You may need to restore an older firmware in order to root and Bump though. I am still not 100% clear on the specifics, but I believe there was a work-around for the boot-loader to get a custom recovery installed - this is the Bump. From there, all kernel's and Rom's need to be "Bumped" in order to flash. Every kernel/ROM I've seen on XDA is already Bumped, so you shouldn't have any issues flashing anything.
Hope that makes sense. For more info on which firmware will allow you to do what, http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/verizon-lg-g3-one-toolkit-vs985-root-t3124846
In order to be able to install and get into TWRP or any custom recovery, you have to use the 12B (KitKat) bootloader or below (10C KitKat, 11C KitKat). It's easiest to root on 10B with the Stump app. You can downgrade from every official stock version, although from 35B and higher, the only way to downgrade is to flash the 10B TOT file from Windows using the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ (even if you're downgrading from 46A or 47A).
Rooting gets more complicated after 10B, and putting TWRP on gets more complicated after 12B.
Thanks guys! Since I'd be buying used it would be a crap-shoot which boot-loader I get...but it still seems more promising than my current S4.
I'm in no hurry but I'll start looking for a deal.
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Thanks guys! Since I'd be buying used it would be a crap-shoot which boot-loader I get...but it still seems more promising than my current S4.
I'm in no hurry but I'll start looking for a deal.
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You're welcome, good luck!
Just got a refub.ed G3 VS985 off ebay for $109 last week (saw a $99 deal a few days ago). It came with 35B version ... easy to downgraded back to 10B, then rooted (stump apk) , then added TWRP 3.0.0.0 (TWRP apk), then flashed 35B bootstack + stock47A.
Had quite a bit of issues (going back to 10B) due to a corrupted TOT file causing "Failed Previous Load" for LGFlashTool.
@ hyperxguy - So despite your troubles everything worked out OK? Have you flashed any ROMs yet? I'm a bit eager to jump in sooner than later at thought of being able to use different ROMs.
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@ hyperxguy - So despite your troubles everything worked out OK? Have you flashed any ROMs yet? I'm a bit eager to jump in sooner than later at thought of being able to use different ROMs.
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It took me awhile to realize the corrupted TOT file was causing the downgrade problem ... otherwise, the process was painless. I'm having no issue with the stock-rooted47A. Will start playing with other ROMs soon.
This G3 is about the same as my old G2, regarding root & ROMs. So I'm feeling pretty comfortable.
Note: I've been using the G4 for the last year ... but it has no root solution ... so I'm getting the G3 just to have some fun (kinda miss my old G2).
Hey fellows, I too am thinking of getting a G3 to replace my S3 that died a while back. I'm using an old moto x2 now. After posting in another thread elsewhere and describing what I'm looking for in a New(used) phone, someone recommended the G3 and after some reading I see that it fits the bill perfectly. (Ext SD, Replaceable battery, 5" or larger display) I had been thinking about a new moto or a note but root and ext sd are a must. I also need a phone with decent reception. My S3 was terrible compared to my old Droid X and X2, and since signal at home is hit or miss (95db/m on my dx2 now) I want a phone that pulls in signal well.
What do those of you who own this phone think about signal / reception compared to other devices?
I think I can get any Verizon version downgraded to install root and TWRP correct?
Without me reading through all the custom rom posts, do all features of the phone work as good or better on a custom rom as on a stock rom? What I'm mean here is for example, on my DX, DX2, and S3, some features do not work on custom roms due to the closed source of the original software / drivers I believe. On the DX and X2 for example the HDMI out port won't work on AOSP roms because the driver isn't available. Performance suffers on AOSP roms on the X2 past GB because of the closed nature of the Nvidia Tegra 2 drivers I think. I think I'm explaining this correctly.
I'm pretty sure that's everything I can find out how to do everything once I acquire the device. The link in the first reply above is most helpful.
Would anyone recommend any other device for the price range between 100-200 US dollars? Again, I've been considering a note, nexus 6 (because I know I'll have beaucoup kernels and roms to choose from)
griz.droidx said:
Hey fellows, I too am thinking of getting a G3 to replace my S3 that died a while back.
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Hi! I too, came from the S3, albeit the Sprint version. I loved that phone, by the way. I think overall I was most satisfied on the S3 but the G3 definitely has some great specifications in comparison.
What do those of you who own this phone think about signal / reception compared to other devices?
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I can't comment regarding this. I've moved too many times in the past 6 years and had four different Android phones in that time.
I think I can get any Verizon version downgraded to install root and TWRP correct?
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Yes. The overall wisest way is to flash the 10B (KitKat) TOT using the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B (Lollipop 5.1.1) KDZ from a Windows PC, then use the Stump app to root it using the brute force method.
Google for:
Code:
XDA Stump
and then use TWRP Manager from the Play Store to install TWRP. Rooting gets more complicated after 10B and installing TWRP gets more complicated after 12B.
To flash a ROM - the order you flash things in matters if you end up dealing with JasmineROM 9.x or SkyDragon 6.x. After flashing either of those two ROMs, flash either the 24B or 35B Bootstack that you can find in @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0 ROM thread in the Development section. Depending on which Bootstack you flashed, if you flashed it before flashing either of those two ROMs, you'll brick your phone. Recoverable but no sense doing it if you can avoid it.
I recommend just getting used to flashing the appropriate Bootstack after flashing any ROM, that way you don't have to remember that with those two ROMs you can brick if you flash the Bootstack first. There's more details and exceptions but there's no use overloading you. If you always flash the Bootstack after, there's nothing else to worry about.
Without me reading through all the custom rom posts, do all features of the phone work as good or better on a custom rom as on a stock rom? What I'm mean here is for example, on my DX, DX2, and S3, some features do not work on custom roms due to the closed source of the original software / drivers I believe. On the DX and X2 for example the HDMI out port won't work on AOSP roms because the driver isn't available. Performance suffers on AOSP roms on the X2 past GB because of the closed nature of the Nvidia Tegra 2 drivers I think. I think I'm explaining this correctly.
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No. For what it's worth in my opinion, I don't bother fooling with non-stock Verizon LG ROMs any more. CyanogenMod/AOSP and ports of international stock ROMs often end up not working quite 100%, and you won't get all the features you will on stock. You can't use laser focus on CyanogenMod no matter what camera app you use, there are workarounds that at least used to work to get QuickRemote working on non-stock ROMs, but I haven't fooled with them in over a year so I have no idea if the same way works on newer ROMs.
I can get the most important to me features of non-stock ROMs by using Xposed and modules like G3TweaksBox.
All too often, after a user has flashed a handful of non-stock ROMs, sometimes they end up not being able to get Mobile Data working, even if they flash a stock rooted ROM. Only flashing the TOT or a KDZ will fix such a situation. TOT is recommended, it flashes more partitions than KDZs and can fix issues KDZs can't.
Would anyone recommend any other device for the price range between 100-200 US dollars? Again, I've been considering a note, nexus 6 (because I know I'll have beaucoup kernels and roms to choose from)
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I can't really speak to this either. Every time I'm tempted to go Nexus the price and/or the no MicroSD card or lack of as good a camera etc sways me away. I'm going to keep my eye on the HTC 10 in half a year when I may be in the market again, but it won't be that cheap that soon.
Congratulations, you just absorbed 1 1/2 years of experience with LG devices that I got by reading nearly every post in nearly every thread in the G3 sections since that time, and flashing both my VS985s and my VK810 many dozens of times.
P.S. If you go with the VS985, although I've been on @xdabbeb 's as pure stock while rooted 47A Marshmallow (although heavily debloated) for several months now, his custom ROM based on 35B is my overall favorite. You probably won't go wrong with either one of those, in my opinion.
Edit: By the way, it's a common enough occurence on the G3 that when flashing TOTs or KDZs, and maybe other situations, some people have gotten their IMEI wiped and have to go through some headache to put it back in, and you need to know what it was to begin with.
So if you flash back to 10B, root and install TWRP, the first thing you should back up in TWRP is "EFS" which includes your IMEI. Then save that somewhere like on Google Drive. It'll save you a lot of headache if you lose your IMEI. That said, I haven't lost mine once in several dozen flashes on my wife's and my G3s.
If you're still thinking of getting a G3, I was looking at Ebay last night and noticed they are selling refurbished G3's for $100.00 - I think with free shipping.
Just FYI
Hello Guys, after the years i want to reactivate my XZ1 with Stock Rom, so the nearly question is custom rom yes or no?
I think for my child 9 years is stock rom okay and safe he don´t has a bank or online banking or like that, is there any Opinnion that make a Custom Rom sense on the XZ1 and if that what is the best on versus the old stock rom?
I think he will use the camera most, but in custom roms i have read that there are issueses with the Custom Rom on the camera?
Give it a good Custom rom for this device where all work fine? thanks
Can anyone told me make it sense or not
bluedesire said:
Hello Guys, after the years i want to reactivate my XZ1 with Stock Rom, so the nearly question is custom rom yes or no?
I think for my child 9 years is stock rom okay and safe he don´t has a bank or online banking or like that, is there any Opinnion that make a Custom Rom sense on the XZ1 and if that what is the best on versus the old stock rom?
I think he will use the camera most, but in custom roms i have read that there are issueses with the Custom Rom on the camera?
Give it a good Custom rom for this device where all work fine? thanks
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Camera is working fine on my XZ1 running on LineageOS 19.1 and 20.0
I would not want my kids foto's all over googles servers. But that's everybody's own free choice ofcourse.
Did Headset work and all is fine?
how can i Upgrade IT can i save the Stock Firmware for worstcase.
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Did Headset work and all is fine?
how can i Upgrade IT can i save the Stock Firmware for worstcase.
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Definately download the stock firmware first. I forgot, and I'm having a hard time getting the right version.
I did not check headphones yet, but audio/video is all well. Currently I have another OS (Evolution) installed, I might revert back to LineageOS in a few days. I will check headphones then.
Main issue I'm having now is the mobile service connection. It's very unreliable, and the data is always off. Also on Evolution OS, so it might be the phone's hardware. (Did not check out of the box.)
Edit, okay, back to LineageOS 17.1. Don't know how, but the modem works now.
It was about this file: amss_fsg_poplar_tar.mbm
I think because I installed Lineage 19 without simcard.
I tried to flash stock ROM, but could not get it to work.
A lot of "invalid Zip format" errror messages...
So I tried LOS 17, and it al worked, then dirty installed 18, and then 20. And modem worked, but then failed.
Back to 17.1 again, and up till now no problemos.