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Hello everyone! I just got a brand new Galaxy Note 4 (Exynos) coming from a Galaxy S4. The "new' left softkey now triggers the Recents app instead of being a Menu (Options) key and that makes me sad. I'm not much of a multi-tasker, I'm not going to use it often, but I do like using the Options key in Chrome, picture galleries and basically everywhere since it's easier for me to reach it. I know most apps now have the "three dots" menu, but it's usually very high on the screen (hard to reach on a Note 4) and it's also non-intuitive. One can just press the left soft key with eyes closed, while you need to precisely see where you click if using app's "three dots". So I discovered that if I "hold" the left soft key, it would actually bring the Options menu, but I would like to swap the behavior. One press = Options, Hold = Recent.
I'm on a stock Kitkat 4.4.4 now, running ART, fully rooted. Can someone post(make) a CWM/TWRP .zip to address this problem?
PS: I tried to search for such feature here on the Themes and Apps section, but couldn't find a solution.
Thanks!
Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2646304 and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2337229 I think that the logic is the same, look if there are similarities.
Yay, thanks! Indeed in "/system/usr/keylayout" there was a file called "Generic.kl" and inside of it #254 was called "APP_SWITCH". I changed that to "MENU", restarted and... the button now acts like a Menu key, just like on my old Galaxy S4. For some reason the "hold" function of this key changed to "S Finder" (a search app) and I would like to make it "APP_SWITCH" in order to fully accomplish my goal of swapping those two functions, but still I think now it's a little bit better since I really care more for the Option key, especially on this big screen where reaching the "three dots" menu in upper right corner is not that easy.
Remap buttons with "xposed additions"
Obviously, you need xposed installed.
ctrlaltdeln said:
Remap buttons with "xposed additions"
Obviously, you need xposed installed.
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Yeah, I've heard somewhere about that, but I don't like Xposed to be honest. I don't live running lots of background processes and Xposed is a whole fremework.
ZeroCGTI said:
Yeah, I've heard somewhere about that, but I don't like Xposed to be honest. I don't live running lots of background processes and Xposed is a whole fremework.
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It's not as bad as one would think.
Alot of them you could greenify(greenify can function as a xposed module or a stand-alone app), like Wanam.
Also, modules like greenify and boot manager would save you resources and would probably even-out with the resource demands of the framework.
IMO, Xposed is an absolute must-have for a device that's efficient, customized, and blazing fast.
Maybe. Still last time I checked it wasn't available for Samsung TouchWiz based ROMs on Lollipop. And I'm considering the opportunity to step up to the Lollipop upgrade finally and it won't be compatible anyway. I mean I surely can install it now, but I don't like the idea of getting used to it since I won't be able to use it once I upgrade to LP.
I think that you must change menu to app_switch
I was annoyed by nova (and other) launchers delaying the launch of an app. There was a noticeable delay whenever I'd launch from the home screen.
For those that want their phone lightning fast, but also want a better launcher than the pixel launcher, here is an xposed mod that fixes it. The thread explains the how and why, but I assure you my phone has never been so fast.
Enjoy.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/stopswitchdelay-remove-5s-delay-to-apps-t2688574
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I was annoyed by nova (and other) launchers delaying the launch of an app. There was a noticeable delay whenever I'd launch from the home screen.
For those that want their phone lightning fast, but also want a better launcher than the pixel launcher, here is an xposed mod that fixes it. The thread explains the how and why, but I assure you my phone has never been so fast.
Enjoy.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/stopswitchdelay-remove-5s-delay-to-apps-t2688574
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I dont know what you are referring to exactly bro.. the thread you posted was from way back (2014) and i dont see any 5 second delay to launch apps after pressing the home button.. its instant anyway
praveen6585 said:
I dont know what you are referring to exactly bro.. the thread you posted was from way back (2014) and i dont see any 5 second delay to launch apps after pressing the home button.. its instant anyway
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It's subtle. I use a swipe launcher and when I'd use the pixel launcher with it, the apps from the pixel launcher ran immediately and the apps from the swipe launcher delayed, or vice versa. I started messing with it and found it somehow related to the home screen. It also exhibits when running shortcuts.
So I ran into this - (pretty sweet nav bar replacement) https://www.xda-developers.com/navigation-gestures-update-app-launch-android-p/
and the author says if you run into delays use thatx xposed module. I did and all the delays were eliminated.
I'm not on something - you might not notice it until it's gone. Unless you don't run xposed, then maybe it's more work. Give it a try... or don't. Made a difference for me.
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It's subtle. I use a swipe launcher and when I'd use the pixel launcher with it, the apps from the pixel launcher ran immediately and the apps from the swipe launcher delayed, or vice versa. I started messing with it and found it somehow related to the home screen. It also exhibits when running shortcuts.
So I ran into this - (pretty sweet nav bar replacement) https://www.xda-developers.com/navigation-gestures-update-app-launch-android-p/
and the author says if you run into delays use thatx xposed module. I did and all the delays were eliminated.
I'm not on something - you might not notice it until it's gone. Unless you don't run xposed, then maybe it's more work. Give it a try... or don't. Made a difference for me.
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ah ok.. that does make sense.. i think it crops up when on a particular setup and not in general.. if it works for the issue you mentioned thats great
madscribblerz said:
It's subtle. I use a swipe launcher and when I'd use the pixel launcher with it, the apps from the pixel launcher ran immediately and the apps from the swipe launcher delayed, or vice versa. I started messing with it and found it somehow related to the home screen. It also exhibits when running shortcuts.
So I ran into this - (pretty sweet nav bar replacement) https://www.xda-developers.com/navigation-gestures-update-app-launch-android-p/
and the author says if you run into delays use thatx xposed module. I did and all the delays were eliminated.
I'm not on something - you might not notice it until it's gone. Unless you don't run xposed, then maybe it's more work. Give it a try... or don't. Made a difference for me.
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This is amazing how useful this Exposed module is with gestures navigation. Unfortunately Exposed affects Safety Net and I'm unable to use my banking apps even with Magisk hide on. Can someone make an apk file instead of Exposed module???
quetz666 said:
This is amazing how useful this Exposed module is with gestures navigation. Unfortunately Exposed affects Safety Net and I'm unable to use my banking apps even with Magisk hide on. Can someone make an apk file instead of Exposed module???
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Everywhere launcher is a gesture based navigator that uses the accessibility service to bypass the 5 sec delay. Navigation gestures (sweet navbar replacement) also bypasses the delay.
Beyond that have no idea.
Does this happen on rootless pixel Launcher by amir?
Sent from my Google Pixel 2 XL using XDA Labs
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Everywhere launcher is a gesture based navigator that uses the accessibility service to bypass the 5 sec delay. Navigation gestures (sweet navbar replacement) also bypasses the delay.
Beyond that have no idea.
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I didn't know Navigation Gestures bypasses it. Thanks. Currently I'm using Edge Gestures app. Works flawlessly. I wrote to it's developer to implement this solution. If not probably NG will be my choice.
quetz666 said:
I didn't know Navigation Gestures bypasses it. Thanks. Currently I'm using Edge Gestures app. Works flawlessly. I wrote to it's developer to implement this solution. If not probably NG will be my choice.
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Edge gestures is pretty nice. Way simpler than everywhere launcher. I set left to home, right to back, and up to recents.
I launch from the launcher, so no delays regardless. I went to a completely launcher only solution when I went to pie, as no xposed.
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Edge gestures is pretty nice. Way simpler than everywhere launcher. I set left to home, right to back, and up to recents.
I launch from the launcher, so no delays regardless. I went to a completely launcher only solution when I went to pie, as no xposed.
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Looks like you find a sweet spot. After I contacted Edge Gestures Dev I downloaded Navigation Geatures app and after setting it I can find it is convenient and works great with no delay as you mention before. Now my Galaxy S8 with Renovate Ice ROM, Substratum overlays and a few additional mods it's a flagship killer ?
quetz666 said:
Looks like you find a sweet spot. After I contacted Edge Gestures Dev I downloaded Navigation Geatures app and after setting it I can find it is convenient and works great with no delay as you mention before. Now my Galaxy S8 with Renovate Ice ROM, Substratum overlays and a few additional mods it's a flagship killer ?
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Sweet . I'm hiding my nav bar completely using navigation gestures (pill is hidden too) and using Edge gestures as my nav. Swipe right for home, swipe left for back (hold for previous app), up for home (hold for recents).
So nice to have 0 real estate for nav.
Cheers :good:
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Sweet . I'm hiding my nav bar completely using navigation gestures (pill is hidden too) and using Edge gestures as my nav. Swipe right for home, swipe left for back (hold for previous app), up for home (hold for recents).
So nice to have 0 real estate for nav.
Cheers :good:
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Since available I'm on permanent immersive mode. In RICE I have 0px for navigation bar height too. Also for about 3 years I'd prefer only gestures navigation method. Since I switched back from iOS (almost 5 years) and BB10 OS (dead) I can't imagine using my phone without gestures. Of course as a die hard Blackberry user I had a never ending ROTFL when Apple "reinvented" gestures navigation for iPhone X. My phone needs to be MINE!
So since 9.0 update broke multiwindow feature. I used it as long press on multitasking button for split screen. Is there an app or something to get it back without root?
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So since 9.0 update broke multiwindow feature. I used it as long press on multitasking button for split screen. Is there an app or something to get it back without root?
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Do this: tap on the app icon at the top of the app when you're in the recents screen, there is a split screen option there. Do me a favor though, try it and see how well it works. When I do it, the app only takes up a tiny bit of the screen at the top, I try to slide it down but it just slides back up. It is there but to me it seems buggy or at least difficult to use. Let me know
Update: I figured it out. You select to open one app in split screen, and then choose any other app and they will both share the screen.
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So since 9.0 update broke multiwindow feature. I used it as long press on multitasking button for split screen. Is there an app or something to get it back without root?
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Multi-Window is not broken in Android 9. All that happened with it (and other features, I don't have a full list readily available) was a change in how we use said features.
Someone else asked the same question recently. Thread below will be of help to you.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/multi-windows-options-pie-s9-t3903497
I know they changed it, but I should have explained it better. I wanted to know if there is a way to get as we had it on Oreo? On oreo, there was a way to assign long press of multitasking button to split-screen current app. And I want to know if I could get that back?
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I know they changed it, but I should have explained it better. I wanted to know if there is a way to get as we had it on Oreo? On oreo, there was a way to assign long press of multitasking button to split-screen current app. And I want to know if I could get that back?
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Checking the users manual for Android Pie for our phone's the only way to do app pairing now is via the Edge menu.
If you want other methods then you can refer to the thread I linked (someone posted an app suggestion for what your asking in the thread). Otherwise check the Google Play store and see if there is an app that will do the trick.
Sorry all if queastion was before (can't find answer and I'm really pissed off)...is it possible to remove this arrow under the keyboard on pixel 6 (pic in attach)?! I had pixel 6 pro few days ago (returned because fingerprint sensor didn't work) and I'm shure that I didn't had arrow there (gestures used too, all same as here). Tried to find option to turn off everywhere but no success...hope that this is not feature from todays jan update?!
You can't remove that arrow, it's used to hide and un-hide the keyboard.
Proday said:
Sorry all if queastion was before (can't find answer and I'm really pissed off)...is it possible to remove this arrow under the keyboard on pixel 6 (pic in attach)?! I had pixel 6 pro few days ago (returned because fingerprint sensor didn't work) and I'm shure that I didn't had arrow there (gestures used too, all same as here). Tried to find option to turn off everywhere but no success...hope that this is not feature from todays jan update?!
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That's not a new feature. Has always been there. If rooted you can remove with a mod that removes navbar, gesture pill, etc..
It is different if using two button or three button navigation.
I use the three button navigation and the back arrow key in the navigation changes to a down arrow key.
Pixel's implementation of down arrow on the navbar (or at least the padding below) is actually better than not having anything (like Xiaomi did on MIUI). The OS cannot recognize smartly if you meant a swiping up gesture or just simply pressing the space button, hence this placement.
Lughnasadh said:
That's not a new feature. Has always been there. If rooted you can remove with a mod that removes navbar, gesture pill, etc..
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Tnx for info mate. I'll search for it.
vandyman said:
It is different if using two button or three button navigation.
I use the three button navigation and the back arrow key in the navigation changes to a down arrow key.
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I know mate, but I'm using swipe last 3 years, can't go back on old commands...and this way I have more screen space to look at.
peter_betos said:
Pixel's implementation of down arrow on the navbar (or at least the padding below) is actually better than not having anything (like Xiaomi did on MIUI). The OS cannot recognize smartly if you meant a swiping up gesture or just simply pressing the space button, hence this placement.
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Whell thats individual thing. This way I'm loosing about 1cm of screen size, on samsung (one plus) phones it works for me without any problem.
Anyway, now im certain that it is not to remove id witouth root...thanks all one more time.
Try this method (pictures attached) worked for my OnePlus 10 pro oxygenos13 beta.
1. Go to the settings
2. Open additional setting or direct search 3rd option
3. Keyboard & input method
4. keyboard location
5. Select hide
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Try this method (pictures attached) worked for my OnePlus 10 pro oxygenos13 beta.
1. Go to the settings
2. Open additional setting or direct search 3rd option
3. Keyboard & input method
4. keyboard location
5. Select hide
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you're awesome
it worked
i like getting my inquiry resolved fast
that was fast
Lughnasadh said:
That's not a new feature. Has always been there. If rooted you can remove with a mod that removes navbar, gesture pill, etc..
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I am using gensture navigation in lineageOS 19, and I also meet this problem that my phone have a very wide bottom bar when I input something. My phone have a small screen so that I have a bad experience when I input, but I couldn't find related setting in my phone setting. However I have rooted so could you give me this module? Thank you very much!
A marinated egg said:
I am using gensture navigation in lineageOS 19, and I also meet this problem that my phone have a very wide bottom bar when I input something. My phone have a small screen so that I have a bad experience when I input, but I couldn't find related setting in my phone setting. However I have rooted so could you give me this module? Thank you very much!
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HideNavBar/README.md at master · Magisk-Modules-Repo/HideNavBar
Contribute to Magisk-Modules-Repo/HideNavBar development by creating an account on GitHub.
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HideNavBar/README.md at master · Magisk-Modules-Repo/HideNavBar
Contribute to Magisk-Modules-Repo/HideNavBar development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Thanks very much!
Is there anyway to move the navigation buttons to the right?
My thumb just can't reach the back button
Thanks
it grinds my gears too!, here we are at the most advanced android 13, many years of it on smartphones and yet still so many things baked into oems, like navigation customisation
to me pixel phones must solve these issues since its stock, and not just root everything all the time, to me its meant to solve the android problem of baked in oem features, like one ui or else samsung just wins androids, and pixels are done, i wont keep it that long lol
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to me pixel phones must solve these issues since its stock...
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They did. It's called "gesture navigation".
Get rid of nav bar, use XPosed Edge Pro, you can setup custom stuff
BarrettBear said:
Get rid of nav bar, use XPosed Edge Pro, you can setup custom stuff
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Xposed is the Android equivalent of cancer. The Fullscreen Immersive Gestures module for Magisk and a launcher that has custom gestures, e.g. Nova Launcher, is more than sufficient.
"Xposed is the Android equivalent of cancer"
Lol okay
Well I've tried Fullscreen Immersive Gestures on Magisk, it didn't work, so I have my solution which does work. I have zero space taken up at the top of the screen, and zero space taken up at the bottom of the screen.
I have an invisible app-switch, home, and back button at the bottom of the screen, and the ability to add dozens more should I care to.
Robshr said:
Is there anyway to move the navigation buttons to the right?
My thumb just can't reach the back button
Thanks
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Use Xposed Edge Pro, it allows you to designate your own invisible buttons. My setup is:
Lower left, swipe up to go into multi, long-press to bring up in-app menu
Lower center, swipe up to open Bottom Quick Settings, long press to go home
Lower right, swipe up to go back
But you don't have to use swipe up, you can tap, double-tap, long press, swipe up, swipe down, swipe left, or swipe right. You also have different areas, 3x per side (left/center/right, top/middle/bottom) for each of those, and each can be assigned to do a number of incredibly useful things.
If you have trouble reaching with your thumb, you can assign lots to the lower-right (near your thumb), long press to do one thing, swipe up to do another, swipe to the left to do something, etc.
Don't let anybody tell you it's bad, test it for yourself and make your own decision.
If you do use that setup, you can disable the nav bar entirely by:
Installing "MagiskHide Props Config", and a terminal emulator
Restart
Run the term emulator, give it superuser by typing su and granting, then run command props
Go to code 5 (add your own prop), type n for a new prop, call the new prop qemu.hw.mainkeys, give it a value of 1, press y to continue with defaults, press y to reboot again.
NavBar is now gone (like in my image).
If you want to bring the NavBar back, just run props again on the terminal, and delete the prop you made above.
BarrettBear said:
"Xposed is the Android equivalent of cancer"
Lol okay
Well I've tried Fullscreen Immersive Gestures on Magisk, it didn't work, so I have my solution which does work. I have zero space taken up at the top of the screen, and zero space taken up at the bottom of the screen.
I have an invisible app-switch, home, and back button at the bottom of the screen, and the ability to add dozens more should I care to.
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If it didn't work you're doing it wrong. But then again I really only use it to ditch the hint at the bottom of the screen, so my use case may not be typical.
There is a reason why custom ROM developers don't accept bug reports with that crap you use in play, and that's because 9 out of 10 times the issue is Xposed itself. So Xposed and its derivatives needed to be put out to pasture years ago and just die already. Anything they can do can a root app can do just as effectively, and without the system instability penalty of the cancer that is Xposed.
At this point we are getting a little off topic, as the OP I do think was trying to avoid rooting to solve his problem. Of course, root may be the only solution to the problem.
I have my Back-Button on the bottom right, just old-school without rooting.
Sry for my english, Germany here.
BarrettBear said:
Use Xposed Edge Pro, it allows you to designate your own invisible buttons. My setup is:
Lower left, swipe up to go into multi, long-press to bring up in-app menu
Lower center, swipe up to open Bottom Quick Settings, long press to go home
Lower right, swipe up to go back
But you don't have to use swipe up, you can tap, double-tap, long press, swipe up, swipe down, swipe left, or swipe right. You also have different areas, 3x per side (left/center/right, top/middle/bottom) for each of those, and each can be assigned to do a number of incredibly useful things.
If you have trouble reaching with your thumb, you can assign lots to the lower-right (near your thumb), long press to do one thing, swipe up to do another, swipe to the left to do something, etc.
Don't let anybody tell you it's bad, test it for yourself and make your own decision.
If you do use that setup, you can disable the nav bar entirely by:
Installing "MagiskHide Props Config", and a terminal emulator
Restart
Run the term emulator, give it superuser by typing su and granting, then run command props
Go to code 5 (add your own prop), type n for a new prop, call the new prop qemu.hw.mainkeys, give it a value of 1, press y to continue with defaults, press y to reboot again.
NavBar is now gone (like in my image).
If you want to bring the NavBar back, just run props again on the terminal, and delete the prop you made above.
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Are you running android 13 or 12
I'm running 13 and I don't think it's compatible with 13 as it won't install the Xposed framework
Robshr said:
Are you running android 13 or 12
I'm running 13 and I don't think it's compatible with 13 as it won't install the Xposed framework
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I'm still on 12. I stick with what I know works
Robshr said:
Are you running android 13 or 12
I'm running 13 and I don't think it's compatible with 13 as it won't install the Xposed framework
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Which is why Fullscreen Immersive Gestures - a Magisk module - is a better option than any Xposed crap. It at least works, if you set it up correctly.
mr73 said:
I have my Back-Button on the bottom right, just old-school without rooting.
Sry for my english, Germany here.
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How did you done that?
I can't find anything that works on pixel 6
valyemil811 said:
How did you done that?
I can't find anything that works on pixel 6
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I used "Navigation Bar for Android" from Wormhole Space, it works for me without rooting. IMO i like it because i use the back button more than the other ones, try it.
mr73 said:
I used "Navigation Bar for Android" from Wormhole Space, it works for me without rooting. IMO i like it because i use the back button more than the other ones, try it.
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I thought you made some .xml or adb modification straight to phone
Sry no, i dont have the time and ability to learn new things like programming or something like that.
mr73 said:
Sry no, i dont have the time and ability to learn new things like programming or something like that.
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Oki doki