No damage, stopped turning on, they already want me to pay shipping costs to and from them. So I fully expect their ****ty customer support to try and charge me since they already have tried to screw me once before by charging me four times for the initial purchase price upon ordering the phone.
Does anyone know what their service charge is to replace a screen? Has anyone gone through their BS circus acts?
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No damage, stopped turning on, they already want me to pay shipping costs to and from them. So I fully expect their ****ty customer support to try and charge me since they already have tried to screw me once before by charging me four times for the initial purchase price upon ordering the phone.
Does anyone know what their service charge is to replace a screen? Has anyone gone through their BS circus acts?
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Where did you buy the phone from? Did they really try to charge you nearly $5000 for the phone?
I've gone through Asus RMA over the years, maybe the particular repair centre closest to me happens to be great but I've never had major issues with them. A laptop repaired in under 2 weeks, handful of motherboards, most of the time free or reasonably priced. If the device was under warranty they just accepted it. Never had to pay shipping though since its not too far from me.
If the screen is just defective then it should be covered by warranty as that would be a manufacturer caused issue. Your total cost should be whatever it costs to ship to the repair centre, and thats it.
let us know how the saga plays out! Good luck!
Yes they did try to charge me 5k for it, and I ended up paying around 600 dollars in overdrafts and returned payment fees for all of my bills. My bank said it's Asus's fault, and guess what Asus said? "Our system doesn't make mistakes, it's a problem with your bank."
I've had absolutely dreadful results in the past with their turnaround time, and they've sent back a GPU and motherboard that were "fixed" but not really. I'm predicting to be told I have to pay around 500 to have it replaced somehow. And to be honest I may be done with them as a company for life, I've had about all I can stand at this point.
Which country are you in? They should fix it for free under warranty.
Just a quick update, it took them this long to get back to me. I received two extremely low resolution pictures showing very tiny surface scratches to the frame and the glass on the top left corner which would be from car keys.
Apparently that voids warranty and they want a suspicious $500 even to replace the entire OLED and glass assembly. As I expected a crock of BS from this company I'm not entirely surprised. What a joke though, $500 for an undamaged screen? Who's their drug dealer?
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Just a quick update, it took them this long to get back to me. I received two extremely low resolution pictures showing very tiny surface scratches to the frame and the glass on the top left corner which would be from car keys.
Apparently that voids warranty and they want a suspicious $500 even to replace the entire OLED and glass assembly. As I expected a crock of BS from this company I'm not entirely surprised. What a joke though, $500 for an undamaged screen? Who's their drug dealer?
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Unfortunately I had to deal with a similar issue with HTC for a defective camera module. Factory defect. If it comes broken from the factory its on them to replace of fix it. Legally. The warranty is an agreement IE a contract. Even the 90 day warranties.
I had to threaten and start the process of a lawsuit, and of company no company like that would want to lawyer up for such a small sum. The next day I got a reply from them saying they would cover everything, and I eventually got my phone fixed.
Ive had a similar issues like that with Corsair and Gigabyte. It happens all the time. No one wants to take responsibility for anything, and sometimes you gotta force em haha.
After previous experiences, they're not going to budge. They don't even have this phone in their system to FILE for an RMA, that took an hour phone call to begin with. I'm just never going to buy from them again, they're ****ing garbage when it comes to treating their customers right. I never got the $600 plus dollars in overdrafts out of them for their system charging me repeatedly for the order either, even after my bank concluded it WAS their fault.
I will however be throwing my story up on every social media post of their for the rest of 2019.
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After previous experiences, they're not going to budge. They don't even have this phone in their system to FILE for an RMA, that took an hour phone call to begin with. I'm just never going to buy from them again, they're ****ing garbage when it comes to treating their customers right. I never got the $600 plus dollars in overdrafts out of them for their system charging me repeatedly for the order either, even after my bank concluded it WAS their fault.
I will however be throwing my story up on every social media post of their for the rest of 2019.
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If someone is proven to owe you money you have legal precedent to collect it. They know this. They also know a lot of people wont go through the hassle of trying to collect their money. So does LG, HTC, Samsung, OnePlus, etc and they will all try to hold on to that money if possible. Usually thats as simple as not responding to the customer. Its easy when you dont have a storefront. Only really Apple does (AFAIK), which makes it easier to argue with them and get what you should be getting.
Feel free to **** talk them for the year, but personally I feel like one post in an easy to see place is good enough. May as well put that extra effort tightening the vice on them. its not impossible. And its yours.
I hope everything works out for you bro, best of luck!
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No damage, stopped turning on, they already want me to pay shipping costs to and from them. So I fully expect their ****ty customer support to try and charge me since they already have tried to screw me once before by charging me four times for the initial purchase price upon ordering the phone.
Does anyone know what their service charge is to replace a screen? Has anyone gone through their BS circus acts?
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Hi there, got the same. Pulled out of pocket - black screen (later started to blink and bootloop)
so, as i recall i've seen a "scratch" nearby the left airtrigger area. later on i couldn't find it so i just forgot about it (thought when i'm going to put on some glass protection i wount be able to see it at all)
but, it appears that "scratch" was an amoled matrix crack... because when it all went black and then white - i can clearly see that crack is in this area. the phone itself is undamaged, not a single scratch, and there is NO WAY i could apply such a pressure to pass through glass and damage te amoled (seen JerryRig bend test?)
so far waiting for the shop to answer about would they exchange phone or not -_-
idk, at last - when a phone is designed to have a pressure applied (airtriggers) how come it cracks?....
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just as the thread says, my phone hit the ground and the inside part of the screen cracked (not the surface). What options do i have that wont rape my wallet?
Unless you have the ability to open it and fix it your self or a warranty still in place, I'll say just buy a new phone, though the vibrant is a sexy phone, I doubt you will find it.
This video explains and shows everything, how to do it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLUl9tlHSik
If you visit the store from the people who made the video, you will also find replacement parts...but...from my experience with Iphone repairs, they are totally overpriced...try to google for other shops...or try ebay.
At least you see it is possible...
Ok forget it, obviously Samsung won't sell any AMOLED screens to third parties till 2012, means, the replacement screens you might be able to buy are not really OEM and AMOLED...so be aware...at least thats what I all found out using google.
so my options are thin basically.. this sucks, i mean i could send it to samsung for $161 repair but **** man, i just can't afford the repair right now, been driving me nuts for the last two days
Did you have a case on it? If you're accident prone, an otterbox can save you from most falls as long as that fall isn't screen-first onto a big metal spike.
Yeah, not much you can do about the screen. However, used Vibrants are all over eBay ranging from $250 all the way down to a full working one for $160 from a 100% seller with many many sales (AKA reasonably reliable).
My condolences either way. Breaking the screen is one of my biggest fears.
Anyone know where the water sensor is? I deep sixed my phone, but I grabbed it out instantly. It does work perfectly fortunately. I want to check to see if the sensor is triggered.
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Jeff
The battery has water sensor sticker.
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The battery has water sensor sticker.
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Really? none in the phone.. Cool.. is it by the contacts? What color is it supposed to be? Mine is red. Probably not good! lol
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Jeff
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It's inside of the phone so people stop trying to peel it off and lie to us about whether or not it has gotten wet. I've seen too many phones come in with little red specs and glue residue where there used to be a litmus indicator, then when I ask if they've gotten it wet "Oh no, it's never even been near water!"
If you have a T6 you can open up the phone and check, but if it is removed I can promise you that most techs will automatically refer you to asurion. I'd rather see a slightly pink sticker than a missing one.
EDIT: With your sticker being red, it's been soaked. They'll be sending you to asurion if you step into any tech centers.
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Ok, If I use my friends battery , will they open the phone anyway for a exchange to see, I want another one?
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Doesn't matter we sprint techs don't go by the litmus paper anymore anyway. At some point if the liquid corrodes your circuit board, or sits standing somewhere in your phone w/o evaporating, it is then we will deem it Damaged Beyond Repair.
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They will. Every phone gets completely dismantled before it gets exchanged to inspect for improper use. Red sticker or no sticker, you're pretty much screwed on that.
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Ok, I do have protection from sprint ($8 a month) , should I just claim lost or does it matter? Protection covers water damage too right?
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Just tell them you sunk it in water. It'll be a $100 deductible that you can place on your bill or pay over the phone. If you say that you lost it they'll black out the ESN on the phone so it'll be of no use anyways. It's cheaper to swing by an electronics store, pick up a T6 screwdriver and a pry tool, get some denatured alcohol from a hardware store, and scrub the phone clean on the inside with a stuff bristle art brush. Denatured alcohol cleans away any corrosion and once its clean your phone will run perfectly fine.
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Funny about water damage..i know people that just say it was lost now
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In the Atrix the water indicator is on the inside of the back plate, and if you look closely at the breakdown of the Photon in this video below, it seems that at time index 2:00 you also see a red looking water mark below the round disc at the bottom of the back plate.
At time index 2:44 it seems that on the circuit board itself it looks like there are 8 strips, but I can't tell if they are water indicators.
Bottom line, I doubt Sprint Tech would go through all this trouble to dismantle the Photon to see if the water indicator (if that's what those things are) do show any water damage.
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Mind you the Teardown video is not for the faint of Heart. lol
TS out
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As best practice, my techs are required to break a phone down completely and rebuild/repair it to try and fix any issues prior to ordering a new one. This may require the customer to wait an hour, but it's best for everyone involved. They won't have to set up a new phone or be exposed to new problems, and it keeps our exchange rate down. In this process they will find anything like that.
(Have to meet a load of ridiculous quotas set by Sprint to make any commission. We're the largest third party dealer in the midwest, yet our techs get minimum wage + commission if they meet Sprint's nearly impossible requirements. It's pretty bogus and get's frustrating when customers throw a ***** fit when we try to protect our paychecks before handing them a new phone on a silver platter.)
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I am within the 30 days, I wonder if they will tear down the phone. Normally, I got a replacement fast.
I'm going to borrow my friends battery and try.
If they do bomb it out, can I pay the deductible and get a new one right there?
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As best practice, my techs are required to break a phone down completely and rebuild/repair it to try and fix any issues prior to ordering a new one. This may require the customer to wait an hour, but it's best for everyone involved. They won't have to set up a new phone or be exposed to new problems, and it keeps our exchange rate down. In this process they will find anything like that.
(Have to meet a load of ridiculous quotas set by Sprint to make any commission. We're the largest third party dealer in the midwest, yet our techs get minimum wage + commission if they meet Sprint's nearly impossible requirements. It's pretty bogus and get's frustrating when customers throw a ***** fit when we try to protect our paychecks before handing them a new phone on a silver platter.)
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I had know Idea that it was like that. I be more aware of that in the future, although I have never thrown a fit over it. Can we have a little more insight on your quotas, just to better understand?
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Under your 30 days it's worth a shot. Tell them you were having issues with the phone randomly shutting off and it's a known issue.
This budget includes all of the phones that we receive from the factory that are already defective and have to bounce back to order another, which I've been fighting since day one. In addition to this, we also have to main 80% customer satisfaction (random survey calls to customers on a 5 point scale) which is really difficult because they take out their frustrations with Sprint on us regardless of us explaining the survey to them.
In all of this, if we miss our exchange budget 3 months in a row, we go onto a performance plan. Miss it again, you're fired. In order to get paid a bonus, we have to be 10% under our budget, not just hit it. Plus we have to hit our repair rate, 80% CSAT, 75% ReadyNow participation and hit a top profit level. In the end, our commission with all of this being hit is only about $250-300 on top of our minimum wage. For the most part, we only get minimum wage.
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"This budget includes all of the phones that we receive from the factory that are already defective and have to bounce back to order another, which I've been fighting since day one."
Can I get a little more clarification on this?
Do sprint stores go threw techs like theirs no tomorrow? I always give 5*, unless someone from ACS wants to lie to me and said they have taken care of something and it takes talking to 3 others to get it cleared up.
How can techs be held responsible for unrepairable phones. Do you just limit the tickets that are processed for repairs until a tech can determine weather or not the phone can be fixed?
Just curious, been with sprint since 2002, and I feel the more one knows how a company works, the better it is on working with customer service.
Wow. I feel your frustration. Why can't the manufacture/or warehouse be held more responsible for what they ship as a "New or Refurbished Phones". And why are their not more "loner phones" to keep exchange rates down, until a phone can be repaired. I know overhead has to be kept down, but having 50 to 75 loner phones would be ideal, wouldnt it?
Is it possible to have customer service take the hit on these promises that it can be exchanged? And "like for like" phones seems like a waste of resources.
I got a couple of more question but I will just PM you tomorrow. I don't want to change the focus of the thread.
Thank you for the insight.
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I'm still fighting to get the warehouses to be more responsible, but it's a fruitless battle. Every Sprint store in America faces the issue of lazy refurbishing.
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I feel your pain. We do 7-800 ticket a month with only FT two techs and one part timer. The last thing we need is defective replacements. The joke in my shop is that "Does it work" is not on the checklist.
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joke in my shop is that "Does it work" is not on the checklist.
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qft! I cant believe how many defective units come in, and my store is only 6 months old - were not super busy but still see a large number of bounces.
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Under your 30 days it's worth a shot. Tell them you were having issues with the phone randomly shutting off and it's a known issue.
Our quotas are like this: They base it on your number of tickets you process per month, and my store does about 600 tickets per month. There are three types of transactions, triage (fixes that require no parts), repair (parts) and exchanges. Your repair rate must exceed 35%. Your exchanges must not exceed your budget. The budget varies by store, but is normally around 22% of your tickets. My store's budget is 122. This budget includes all of the phones that we receive from the factory that are already defective and have to bounce back to order another, which I've been fighting since day one. In addition to this, we also have to main 80% customer satisfaction (random survey calls to customers on a 5 point scale) which is really difficult because they take out their frustrations with Sprint on us regardless of us explaining the survey to them. We also must have 75% in ReadyNow participation, where we have to set up their phone and teach them features on it. I dislike this greatly as this is something only the sales end should be held accountable for because I don't have time to teach people their phone when I have a line of customers. Most people will say no we didn't do ReadyNow with them on the survey even when I tell them we did. In all of this, if we miss our exchange budget 3 months in a row, we go onto a performance plan. Miss it again, you're fired. In order to get paid a bonus, we have to be 10% under our budget, not just hit it. Plus we have to hit our repair rate, 80% CSAT, 75% ReadyNow participation and hit a top profit level. In the end, our commission with all of this being hit is only about $250-300 on top of our minimum wage. For the most part, we only get minimum wage.
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This is why I'm a tech for a corporate store
We process just as many phones, but our metrics are a little easier. CSAT is only 73%, ReadyNow isn't even a metric as far as techs are concerned, and exchanges aren't budgeted as a gross total, we just can't allow our exchange rate to go above 35%. We also have the Slate diagnostics test, which we have to hit 50% being run on compatible devices.
That being said, I've only been with sprint since the end of june, and I've hit these numbers and then some without really trying. Individually I've worked on about 150 phones this month, and the other two techs are also right around that number, with even better metrics.
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This is why I'm a tech for a corporate store
We process just as many phones, but our metrics are a little easier. CSAT is only 73%, ReadyNow isn't even a metric as far as techs are concerned, and exchanges aren't budgeted as a gross total, we just can't allow our exchange rate to go above 35%. We also have the Slate diagnostics test, which we have to hit 50% being run on compatible devices.
That being said, I've only been with sprint since the end of june, and I've hit these numbers and then some without really trying. Individually I've worked on about 150 phones this month, and the other two techs are also right around that number, with even better metrics.
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Those numbers are changing again. That said, you can only imagine what mine look like at a store like mine that does 2000+ tickets a month, and this is my 7th year, I'm pre-merger Sprint. I amaze myself at keeping my exchange rate under 22% each month. I hit 18% at one point last year...but I harvest like a mad scientist and I still solder things with my lvl 3 cert. And no one gets Lvl 3 certified anymore.
On top of that, we are a Discovery Store, so our direct line of management is about 2 rings under direction of Dan Hesse himself. So you can imagine the programs WE run.
Don't know if your question has truly been answered, but on the Atrix there are 3 water sensors that I personally know of... I took a swim with my phone about 2 months ago... It is working perfectly to this day except for the front facing camera. There is one on the battery. One behind the back cover next to the sim card and memory card... And one on the underside of the motherboard closest to the camera. You have to loosen the motherboard completely to see this one. Hope this helps. I know it is where the Atrix's are located, but may help.
This thread is definitely interesting reading. In fact, it made me pop open the back of my phone for the first time (I've had my phone for about 5 days). I was surprised to see that the battery indicator has red + symbols because the phone is so new and I have not had it anywhere near water (no, really).
It makes me wonder if the other water sensors are also tripped. I purchased the phone at Best Buy and they put it all together for me, otherwise I probably would have noticed it before. Should I ask Best Buy to replace the phone, or just the battery? Not sure where I should go from here. Every thing works perfectly...
Okay, so I sent my TF201 as well as the power cable in for an RMA because the shoddily designed power connector ended up mangling the receptacle on the tablet. I could charge the tablet only by plugging in the keyboard dock, and even then that's iffy.
It was over 2 weeks since I sent the tablet via UPS and they hadn't contacted me. I checked on the RMA site and it said this:
Waiting-[WF4] Wait for Customer Confirmation-Customer Induced Damage \Out-Of-Warranty
No emails or anything. I called Asus and the customer support guy, while polite, was clueless and couldn't help me. No explanation either, which the customer service guy parroted. He estimated the repair cost to be around $130. Screw that! I asked him to escalate the case, but from what I've read online, customer support from Asus is impotent.
Also, I just got off the phone with support guy number 3. Again, complete waste of my time. He wouldn't pass me off to a supervisor when I asked (twice).
Does anyone have any suggestions? What are my options at this point? What magic phrase do I need to use in order for Asus to actually honor their warranty?
This is definitely a make-or-break moment for Asus and my future business with them. I've got an Asus motherboard, an Asus monitor, and a tablet, but I will not hesitate to drop them and recommend others avoid them if this isn't resolved.
Warranty is not really too useful - this is the manufacturer assuring you that is specific things break in a specific period, they will replace them. What is much more powerful (potentially) is consumer protection legislation. Goods must be as described, fit for purpose, safe, etc.
Typical behaviour is to claim you broke 'it' by doing something silly (pulling the connector at a bad angle maybe). You need to demonstrate a design or manufacturing flaw.
In the UK, the claim is against the vendor, not the manufacturer.
You may be able to pursue legal action for a refund (less deduction for the time it was usable).
Likely, if you press hard enough (in writing, with traceability, not by phone), they will agree to some compromise. If no-one else has complained of the same problem, they will rightly assume you are pulling a fast one.
Contact head office in your country - noone else will have the authority to waive the repair fee.
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Warranty is not really too useful - this is the manufacturer assuring you that is specific things break in a specific period, they will replace them. What is much more powerful (potentially) is consumer protection legislation. Goods must be as described, fit for purpose, safe, etc.
Typical behaviour is to claim you broke 'it' by doing something silly (pulling the connector at a bad angle maybe). You need to demonstrate a design or manufacturing flaw.
In the UK, the claim is against the vendor, not the manufacturer.
You may be able to pursue legal action for a refund (less deduction for the time it was usable).
Likely, if you press hard enough (in writing, with traceability, not by phone), they will agree to some compromise. If no-one else has complained of the same problem, they will rightly assume you are pulling a fast one.
Contact head office in your country - noone else will have the authority to waive the repair fee.
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Sorry this isn't going to help but... why do you expect them to repair your device for free if it was damaged while plugging/unplugging? Did you yank it in some odd way and cause it to deform?
I too have noted that the back side of where it plugs in us more exposed than the front due to the angle/slope of the back plate at the edge. I worry something bad will happen if I yank on it. I am more careful because of this.
If you leave the gas nozzle in your car at a gas station and drive off you can't expect the dealer/manufacturer to warranty any damage to your vehicle AND you will most likely get billed by the station for the repair to their pump.
I'm sorry you are having the problem but I'm not seeing ASUS at fault here. You claim it broke due to shoddy design. I doubt it did so on its own and I am sure that is the way they see it too.
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Sorry this isn't going to help but... why do you expect them to repair your device for free if it was damaged while plugging/unplugging? Did you yank it in some odd way and cause it to deform?
I too have noted that the back side of where it plugs in us more exposed than the front due to the angle/slope of the back plate at the edge. I worry something bad will happen if I yank on it. I am more careful because of this.
If you leave the gas nozzle in your car at a gas station and drive off you can't expect the dealer/manufacturer to warranty any damage to your vehicle AND you will most likely get billed by the station for the repair to their pump.
I'm sorry you are having the problem but I'm not seeing ASUS at fault here. You claim it broke due to shoddy design. I doubt it did so on its own and I am sure that is the way they see it too.
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Nope. I treated that thing well. I noticed that the plug was not solidly built pretty early on into my ownership cycle, so I took care to make sure that when I plugged it in, the cord was nice and straight and the plug was gently put in. Obviously *something* must have caused the pins to be mangled but if it was because of a bump, that's shoddy product design, not carelessness on my part.
If it was a $20 repair I'd eat the bill, but they a.) haven't even gotten back to me why they believe it's my fault, b.) they haven't emailed me at all, I've done all of the reaching out to Asus, and c.) they say they're waiting for MY response even though no one at the call center can answer what response they're actually waiting for. The second guy I talked to just estimated that the bill would be "around $130".
I am willing to work with Asus on this, but they're not willing to work with me. See what I mean?
Where did you purchase the unit and how long ago? (These are actually rhetorical questions).
If your purchase was within the past 90 days and you paid with a credit card, you may be able to work with your credit card company and refuse the charges. Not that the retailer should necessarily eat the cost, but if you bought from Amazon, Target, etc., they probably have some sway with Asus. Make your pain their pain...
Hopefully you took pictures of the damage before sending it...
This is EXACTLY what I am going through right now with Asus.
My daughter's Prime boots to the ASUS screen and gets stuck there and will not turn off.
I called tech support and they walked me through several attempts to reset, said they thought it was a software issue and then gave me an RMA number. (BTW, I had also RMA'd my own Prime earlier this year due to GPS and wifi issues and it came back to me with a scratch on the lid. So my husband and I went over my daughter's tablet with a fine tooth comb before sending.) I shipped it in the box and packaging that Asus returned mine in.
I sent it 11/29 and they rec'd it 12/3. On 12/4, the RMA status said
Waiting-[WF4] Wait for Customer Confirmation-Customer Induced Damage \Out-Of-Warranty
No one contacted me. I called Asus on 3 separate occasions - each unable to tell me anything but promising to escalate. I rec'd no calls back.
On Dec 13th, we received an email from Megan Nesmith saying there is customer induced damage and an invoice for repairs. Attached were 2 close-up photos showing VERY OBVIOUS damage - a deep jagged crack in the front corner of the screen and additional damage where it looks like someone pried up the metal around the power button with a screw driver.
At this point, I spoke to a Kamar (sp) who said that I would receive a call by tomorrow evening once they investigate.
I am feeling as if they know my warranty is almost up (end of december) and are going to hold the tablet hostage- my word against theirs. I have done some research and have read similar stories about the Asus Texas repair facility. I don't know what to do if they come back and tell us there is nothing they can do and expect us to pay. I really feel taken advantage of. Anyone have advice for a situation like this?
What's interesting here is the lack of consistency
last week, I RMA'd my Unlocked prime for a sound issue, the issue was it just stopped working through both the speaker, and headphone jack. Asus honored the warranty and fixed it free of charge, I was expecting to get charged, but did not, in fact, it was a one day turnaround in Grapevine TX, my guess is they tested it, and just sent me a different prime, and its already on the way back, I should have it back tomorrow, its possible they may not have fixed it at all. I admit I am very nervous about it, I was told minimum of 10 days when I rma'd. I was very shocked when I checked the status, to make sure they had it logged in as received, and it said ready to ship, after 1 day, and repair status, was device repaired OK, let alone not being charged.I am very curious to see whether it come's back from Grapevine relocked, as I have read several peoples posts here XDA that after Rma the Tablets are relocked, and unlockable due to serial number removal
I even sent it in with a fresh install of Androwook 1.51.Asus didn't seem to have any issues with it being unlocked, at least with me, and I have never seen such a fast turn around on a RMA , EVER. My last Asus Rma took about 4 weeks on a Asus Rampage 4 extreme Motherboard
So why is there this kind of of consistency issues when RMA'ing. This should be pretty cut and dried
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What's interesting here is the lack of consistency
last week, I RMA'd my Unlocked prime for a sound issue, the issue was it just stopped working through both the speaker, and headphone jack. Asus honored the warranty and fixed it free of charge, I was expecting to get charged, but did not, in fact, it was a one day turnaround in Grapevine TX, my guess is they tested it, and just sent me a different prime, and its already on the way back, I should have it back tomorrow, its possible they may not have fixed it at all. I admit I am very nervous about it, I was told minimum of 10 days when I rma'd. I was very shocked when I checked the status, to make sure they had it logged in as received, and it said ready to ship, after 1 day, and repair status, was device repaired OK, let alone not being charged.I am very curious to see whether it come's back from Grapevine relocked, as I have read several peoples posts here XDA that after Rma the Tablets are relocked, and unlockable due to serial number removal
I even sent it in with a fresh install of Androwook 1.51.Asus didn't seem to have any issues with it being unlocked, at least with me, and I have never seen such a fast turn around on a RMA , EVER. My last Asus Rma took about 4 weeks on a Asus Rampage 4 extreme Motherboard
So why is there this kind of of consistency issues when RMA'ing. This should be pretty cut and dried
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I think it has more to do with the repair depot. They arent actually owned by ASUS, rather Authorized by passing a series of tests/checks. Down the hall from me where I work we have a computer hardware repair department that is Dell, HP, Lenovo and possibly Gateway authorized.
So essentially you are dealing with a company with its own set of rules/standards who want to turn a profit and depending on their moral compass etc... you may get billed for a MOBO like I will in Texas if a flash goes wrong and I send it in VS Europe who will just reflash the ROM. Further other folks are having trouble with the call backs etc...
I think what would be most usefull is to compile a list of repair depots that are doing what so others can avoid using the ones they think will shaft them.
hx4700 Killer said:
I think it has more to do with the repair depot. They arent actually owned by ASUS, rather Authorized by passing a series of tests/checks. Down the hall from me where I work we have a computer hardware repair department that is Dell, HP, Lenovo and possibly Gateway authorized.
So essentially you are dealing with a company with its own set of rules/standards who want to turn a profit and depending on their moral compass etc... you may get billed for a MOBO like I will in Texas if a flash goes wrong and I send it in VS Europe who will just reflash the ROM. Further other folks are having trouble with the call backs etc...
I think what would be most usefull is to compile a list of repair depots that are doing what so others can avoid using the ones they think will shaft them.
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Thats nothing just time to let off some frustration. I'm an owner of an Asus Transformer infinity tablet and i pray to god I never have to RMA that. I had an asus Blu-ray Burner that died on me. I sent if for repairs on January 28th 2013. after a few weeks went by not hearing anything I checked online wasn't in a rush for it no inquiry was made I called them and they said the drive was mailed on the 15th of February. After not receiving the drive on the 29th I called back and they said that is weird their systems says it was mailed but did not have a tracking number. They would have to look into it and get back to me. Tuesday February 26th I called again speaking to 20 different reps at this point they finally just reissued another drive shipped on the 27th on February. After all this received the Drive today and its a dvd burner not a blu-ray burner wrong product. Freaking ridiculous. I swear on my grave treat your asus product like a god because their RMA department is crap!!! I just took screenshots and photos to prove they sent me a wrong product.
I've just about had it with RMA. My Transformer has been back and forth to ASUS for six months. It's a total of seven times and they still haven't fixed it. It originally went in for WiFi and gps issues. When it was returned I found grit under the digitizer and so it went back. They replaced the screen and mobo. When it came back there was a huge gap between the screen and the body. So, I sent it back again. They replaced the back panel and when it came back there was still a gap and there was damage to the seal around the screen. So, it went back again. This time they replaced the back again and on receiving it I found the gap was even larger and they had bent the body, forcing the screen in. So, again it went back and they replaced the back panel and screen. On return the gap was still there, the damage was still present on the "new" screen and the hadn't even locked the release catches. I compared the damage on the "new" screen with the photos I took for the previous RMA. Basically, they hadn't replaced the screen. They collected it again today and assure me it will be resolved. I really don't think it will. The technicians clearly don't care and lie about the parts they replace. I think they hope that if they just keep sending it back with some bull**** on the slip that one day I'll give up. I won't though. I spent a lot of money on it and I won't accept the repair centre damaging my property. The most ridiculous part is that they have now spent more on postage than I paid for it. I can think of an easier resolution for this, that's far more cost effective.
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I sent my Prime to RMA, took 1 week.
1. Wifi improved by 1 Bar
2. I GOT YELLOW TINTED SCREEN!
They replaced my touch panel due to flex. Yes RMA has improved my prime but gave me an icky yellow tint. Oh gosh.
Hi,
I'm living in France and i've just found a brocker who want to sell a lot of tablets here
Code:
leboncoin.fr/informatique/497860592.htm?ca=7_s
This is a french company, and i didn't know it. It's near Paris.This company seems to be regular according; the "who we are page" on its website :
Code:
lesoldeur.fr/content/4-qui-sommes-nous
I think this could be a good opportunity for people having a hard-bricked device getting a motherboard. However the seller want too sell the lot, only. If many further people ask for a tablet, he's able to sell all the lot in a short time, this could be interesting for him!
I think too this will be interesting only for people leaving in France maybe on a European country and able speaking french, don't forgot the custom's fee's outside europe!
What do you think?
Note : NO WAY for me buying the whole lot and selling it to each people who need it!
I searched the forums first, but all I found were cracked screens and the like. for months, my rezound has exhibited an issue in the bottom right corner of the LCD (see pics). it hasn't grown/changed or affected use, but it definitely ain't right.
the rep I showed it to at the verizon store swears that I either dropped it or pressed with the might of a thousand hulks on that portion of the screen, which in turn damaged the LCD. I say nay, nay to both, but they still won't allow a warranty replacement.
it's in a hard case five 9s of the time (took it out for pictures) and I certainly never mashed so hard on the screen that it'd cause damage. any thoughts? thanks
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I searched the forums first, but all I found were cracked screens and the like. for months, my rezound has exhibited an issue in the bottom right corner of the LCD (see pics). it hasn't grown/changed or affected use, but it definitely ain't right.
the rep I showed it to at the verizon store swears that I either dropped it or pressed with the might of a thousand hulks on that portion of the screen, which in turn damaged the LCD. I say nay, nay to both, but they still won't allow a warranty replacement.
it's in a hard case five 9s of the time (took it out for pictures) and I certainly never mashed so hard on the screen that it'd cause damage. any thoughts? thanks
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LOL for a second I thought your forum name was ****face.. Anyways back to the topic! I would honestly just call into customer care 800-922-0204 and tell them there's a defect with your display. They will make you do the stupid BS trouble shooting and pass you onto tier 2 tech. They will most likely even up giving you a warranty CLNR which you are most likely entitled to. As long as there is no physical damage/liquid damage it clearly is a manufacturer defect. As long as you're under warranty you should have no issues calling into Verizon. 9/10 times you will get nothing accomplished at a store unless its them making $$$$.
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LOL for a second I thought your forum name was ****face.. Anyways back to the topic! I would honestly just call into customer care 800-922-0204 and tell them there's a defect with your display. They will make you do the stupid BS trouble shooting and pass you onto tier 2 tech. They will most likely even up giving you a warranty CLNR which you are most likely entitled to. As long as there is no physical damage/liquid damage it clearly is a manufacturer defect. As long as you're under warranty you should have no issues calling into Verizon. 9/10 times you will get nothing accomplished at a store unless its them making $$$$.
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yea, it's sposed to make everyone look twice. I was even turned away at the DMV when I tried to get it as a vanity plate
before heading to the store, I called phone support for a warranty replacement. when the phone rep got to the part about "if this is determined to not be a warranty issue, we gonna charge your ass" (paraphrased), I declined. I figured a store tech would glance at it, shrug, then replace it no problem and I wouldn't have to worry about paying. so much for that hope...
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yea, it's sposed to make everyone look twice. I was even turned away at the DMV when I tried to get it as a vanity place
before heading to the store, I called phone support for a warranty replacement. when the phone rep got to the part about "if this is determined to not be a warranty issue, we gonna charge your ass" (paraphrased), I declined. I figured a store tech would glance at it, shrug, then replace it no problem and I wouldn't have to worry about paying. so much for that hope...
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I had the exact same issue on a replacement Verizon sent me about a month back. It was a purple looking smudge at the bottom of the screen. I called them right away and they sent me out another one.
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yea, it's sposed to make everyone look twice. I was even turned away at the DMV when I tried to get it as a vanity plate
before heading to the store, I called phone support for a warranty replacement. when the phone rep got to the part about "if this is determined to not be a warranty issue, we gonna charge your ass" (paraphrased), I declined. I figured a store tech would glance at it, shrug, then replace it no problem and I wouldn't have to worry about paying. so much for that hope...
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That's part of their script the whole "if its deemed not to be a warranty issue blah blah blah". Your phone has a manufacturers defect and it should get replaced free of charge. Give them a call! Best vanity plate I saw to date was ShesMad I lol'd pretty damn hard.
the whole thing about having absolutely no recourse in the event that they charge for a replacement is worrisome, but I'm feelin more confident about it being a defect now. danke
No problem and good luck!
I have a similar smudge spot on my Rezound now. It happened after I crashed on my bike and landed on the phone in my pocket.
It seems to happen with excessive pressure on the screen. The same thing happened to my Asus Transformer too, which is usually put in my backpack and has a lot of things pressing up against it quite often. Not much can be done except replace the screen, or the phone.
My phone was in a pool of about 3' of water for a few seconds, with all of the ports completely closed. Ever since, the screen hasn't been responsive except for a small portion of the top left. I contacted Sony, who told me to contact Verizon, who told me to contact Sony...and on the 3rd attempt, someone at Verizon finally bridged up someone at Sony and the RMA # was then provided to me.
I sent the phone back to Sony (at my own cost), and just received it back today. They left adhesive sticking out of the gap between the glass and side trim, and left trim off the bottom of the phone, which is nowhere to be found. They also claim to have done a successful pressure test on it, but I am absolutely sure that my ports were closed when the phone entered the water. In fact, I use a Qi charger to ensure that the seals on the ports remain intact.
Here is the document they sent the phone back with.
Adhesive sticking out of the side.
Bottom trim gone.
Long story short, I loved this phone, but it is not waterproof, and don't expect support if it becomes water damaged. Very frustrating, as I am still paying for the phone via Verizon Edge.
Wow.. Looks like a novice did that job. That's horrible. Sorry for your loss!
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Same boat
I just had a similar thing happen. 10 seconds in a kiddie pool and now I have dead zones in my screen. Visiting Verizon today, any suggestions for dealing with them?
It's unfortunate your experience was terrible, especially with the kind of service they did. The thing is though, not all Z3v's are defective like yours. I've washed mine in the sink, taken it to shower, brought it to several swimming pools, and I've never had any waterproofing problems.
And in any case, I have the $8 insurance with Verizon for any problems such as dropping it or losing it. I'm sure Verizon can do something for you if you did subscribe to that.
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I just had a similar thing happen. 10 seconds in a kiddie pool and now I have dead zones in my screen. Visiting Verizon today, any suggestions for dealing with them?
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Based on my experience, you're SOL without insurance. I typically don't buy insurance on phones because the monthly premium + deductible just isn't worth it on a device I can get on eBay or Swappa for $300-400.
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Based on my experience, you're SOL without insurance. I typically don't buy insurance on phones because the monthly premium + deductible just isn't worth it on a device I can get on eBay or Swappa for $300-400.
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I'm going to neglect to mention the water and see where that gets me...
I had the same experience. I had my Sony in the water with all the ports closed and it got water inside. I contacted Sony and the guy I spoke to told me I had to send it in at my own expense and they would determine if my phone was defective or if it was user error. He also told me not to hold much hope because he said he hasn't seen them replace one yet. I sent it in and they mailed it back saying it passed a pressure test so it must have been my fault. I spent $500 on a waterproof phone that lasted all of two Weeks and broke when it got wet while being used properly. I called Sony to argue my case several times and it was to no avail. I was treated very rudely by one rep and hung up on by another but most of the reps were very nice. I finally got my my case escalated to corporate office and was told sorry there are no exceptions to be made if it passed a pressure test at Sony. I will never buy anything Sony again that's how frustrated the whole process made me.
Well, I guess I'll stop bothering to call support then. I argued my case with the front line personnel, and they said they'd have a supervisor call me back within 48 hours...last Friday. Haven't heard a peep. I would hate to swear off Sony devices after this, because other than the lack of water resistance, I liked the phone very much.
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Well, I guess I'll stop bothering to call support then. I argued my case with the front line personnel, and they said they'd have a supervisor call me back within 48 hours...last Friday. Haven't heard a peep. I would hate to swear off Sony devices after this, because other than the lack of water resistance, I liked the phone very much.
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Just saying again, my phone never had waterproof problems. It's really Verizon who you should contact to get something done.
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You're wrong.
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You're wrong.
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That's cool. Just blatantly say "you're wrong" without any evidence to back it up. It's your money, your choice.
Update on ruined phone
So I contacted Sony and explained to them that my phone's screen was unresponsive and registering Phantom touches. Ileft out that it had been in water, I just told them that the camera had been overheating a lot. The guy on the phone accessed it and had me run the hard reboot. He said he could see that it was trying to run files in the background, but nothing was happening. Since my phone was under the one year warranty, he said it was covered and I was mailed a replacement. I was pretty surprised and impressed by customer service. Just remember to be kind and explain everything youve done to address the issues ( soft and hard reboots, system restore, played in the configuration menu). I'm not surprised to see Sony reverse their stance on waterproofing, but I am very disappointed.
Yeah, you're wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about, lol.
Did you even read my original post, or do you just troll around for ways to massage your ego on Internet forums?
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Yeah, you're wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about, lol.
Did you even read my original post, or do you just troll around for ways to massage your ego on Internet forums?
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Yeah, I did read it and I was trying to direct you to Verizon since you have no better access to a replacement than them. If that doesn't workout, you may as well just purchase one from eBay since prices of the Z3v are driven down pretty low now in expectation of what's supposed to be the successor's release.
If you don't want my help, that's fine. I've done my fair share on this topic and I've been able to help plenty of others in development as well as achieving root first on a ROM that is still unannounced on its official release.
Good day and good luck finding a solution.
It sounds as though you still haven't read my original post.
Verizon would not do anything for me since I do not have insurance on the phone. Sony inspected it and would not honor the warranty because the board had corrosion on it and the phone tested airtight.
So why are you still here? Also what do you expect us to do, more then the advice that was given? You didn't have insurance , the claim has been denied. Time to take personal responsibility for not having insurance, you have run out of options.
I had something of a similar issue but with a good ending. For a few weeks my charge cover wouldn't close right all of the time because the seal came partly undone from but I could sometimes get it back in flush. One day at work I guess it just wasn't the case because after about a minute in the bottom of a pool, it turned off. Never had water proof issues before( in the shower, other times in the pool, fish petting tank). It took a full 15 business days at there facility in Texas but they replaced the phone so I guess the guys there couldn't get the flap to seal either for the pressure test.
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