How to update only kernel on treble device? - Huawei MediaPad M5 Questions & Answers

Been running treble 9.0 rom for a couple of months, everything bis perfect, I didn't bother with TWRP.
My only missing knowledge is how to update only the underlying kernel? I am stuck on 185, and newer is available.
Is there a way to extract and flash using fastboot? If so how?

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Clarification on treble & ROMS

Hi!
i am new to the treble-enabled stuff, this is the first phone i own that is treble capable and i have a few questions. I think they can apply to other NOBS, so here i go hoping some nice guy will help me understand:
Background: i have the redmi 5plus (global) which i have unlocked (after painful 720h) and i have flashed Pixel Experience 8.1 rom, but i like to experiment and it seems most of interesting roms are on treble.
1. By default, "vince" is not treble enabled. (treble check app says so)
2. "vince" seems to be an "A only" device, not A/B device,
Main Question: Now, what should i do to try (safely) some GSI roms (like here XDA LOS 16 GSI)?
Sub-Question 1: I must most likely flash some other things first, i guess... like a vendor or a treble image? Where do i find it?
Sub-Question 2: I have installed TRWP recovery, is it treble enabled or should i ALSO find a treble enabled recovery?
If i got it all wrong, please i would be happy to stand corrected!
Hi.
Well, yeah, you need to install another vendor, as far as I know, OrangeFox is the treble enabled recovery.
Someone already explained this in this post.
Have fun. :fingers-crossed:
Xyzko said:
Hi.
Well, yeah, you need to install another vendor, as far as I know, OrangeFox is the treble enabled recovery.
Someone already explained this in this post.
Have fun. :fingers-crossed:
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Thank you! Sometimes hard to find the right threads...
Installed orangefox, cool recovery!
One last question... how does kernel works with treble? Do i need treble enabled kernels if i want to change the kernel? Are they provided with the treble-enabled rom already or i get to keep the existing kernel? Is the kernel on a dedicated partition separated from the GSI and the Vendor? (i am starting to understand this, maybe)?
gardiol said:
Thank you! Sometimes hard to find the right threads...
Installed orangefox, cool recovery!
One last question... how does kernel works with treble? Do i need treble enabled kernels if i want to change the kernel? Are they provided with the treble-enabled rom already or i get to keep the existing kernel? Is the kernel on a dedicated partition separated from the GSI and the Vendor? (i am starting to understand this, maybe)?
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Months ago it started to appear some projects about android 9.0 before of Google revealed it as android Pie, then at this time devices with treble support also can support GSIs from these projects according two specific conditions: the processor (first qualcomm, then exynos, kirin and mtk were supported) and kind of partition system A-A/B.
At this first times was needed to flash a vendor treble supported rom to add treble support and flash over it a GSI 9.0. without the need to flash other kernel.
In this forum there are a lot of GSIs that eventually could work in our device but it could be many bugs https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble/trebleenabled-device-development.
Now is not needed to complicate the job flashing a vendor, then a GSI and maybe a custom treblized kernel so started to appear first developments of roms running 9.0 and these roms will work as exactly did it any rom 7.1 or 8.1, in the future they could be include treble support.
This is the short story.

how many builds of Android Pie are out for the OPX?

How many builds of pir are there? can't any of them be installed permanently or are they all still alpha that will need reinstalled after official launch? i want to upgrade from the original OPX android to to pie for daily use. i also want magisks if that's not all supper outdated now too.
LOS 16 is really stable IMO and the dev announced it xill be the one supported in top priority.
There is no evidence that there will be "official" custom Rom on pie for OPX.
so the custom pie roms will not get updates from google?
cdoublejj said:
so the custom pie roms will not get updates from google?
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?? I don't understand your question.
Google doesn't do anything about custom roms.
There is just one dev that worked on some custom roms on Pie (Pixel experience, AOSP and LOS). He just tond that he will put the priority on the LOS one. Note that it's marked as LOS 16 unofficial as he builds it itself, not in the LOS offcial roaster.
Onyx won't even be in the 15.1 roaster as it has just been ejected from official 14.1 roaster.
Kéno40 said:
?? I don't understand your question.
Google doesn't do anything about custom roms.
There is just one dev that worked on some custom roms on Pie (Pixel experience, AOSP and LOS). He just tond that he will put the priority on the LOS one. Note that it's marked as LOS 16 unofficial as he builds it itself, not in the LOS offcial roaster.
Onyx won't even be in the 15.1 roaster as it has just been ejected from official 14.1 roaster.
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when Debian gets updates so does ubuntu and kubuntu and lubuntu and xubuntu. custom rom or not it IS still google android pie, so when vulnerability is found a update is pushed out for pie and all pie devices get said fix. unless phones don't work this way which would suck and mean it's un secure the custom rom dev gets boared or no longer has time.
cdoublejj said:
when Debian gets updates so does ubuntu and kubuntu and lubuntu and xubuntu. custom rom or not it IS still google android pie, so when vulnerability is found a update is pushed out for pie and all pie devices get said fix. unless phones don't work this way which would suck and mean it's un secure the custom rom dev gets boared or no longer has time.
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You are confused, android builds are device specific, every patch needs to be integrated and compiled by the developer or mantainer of the rom you're using and can't be used in any other phone. Google releasses a new version of android and it's up to developers to create drivers and kernel "stuff" that allows the software to funcion in the device.
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You are confused, android builds are device specific, every patch needs to be integrated and compiled by the developer or mantainer of the rom you're using and can't be used in any other phone. Google releasses a new version of android and it's up to developers to create drivers and kernel "stuff" that allows the software to funcion in the device.
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AH-HA!!!! This makes sense!

Cannot start any Android 10 GSIs

(English is not my native language and I am currently learning English.)Hi,everyone.I have used Los15_Treble and Los16_Treble_ExPerimental as the base package, try to launch some Android 10 GSIS, but it flashes to Fastboot.Then I tried to replace the kernel, but failed, it stopped in the boot interface (boot first screen). Someone knows how to solve this problem? Or LOS17 Treble package?
ghgtttttt said:
(English is not my native language and I am currently learning English.)Hi,everyone.I have used Los15_Treble and Los16_Treble_ExPerimental as the base package, try to launch some Android 10 GSIS, but it flashes to Fastboot.Then I tried to replace the kernel, but failed, it stopped in the boot interface (boot first screen). Someone knows how to solve this problem? Or LOS17 Treble package?
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Stop trying to use GSI ROMs. Use regular LOS ROMs.
You need to be on LG stock Pie first to have have Pie blobs (drivers). Then install LOS-17.x ROM. There are also other custom ROMs based on LOS-17.x.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/rom-lineageos-15-1-t3789793
What variant do you have? Some like H931/H933 need some additional prep work to run LOS ROMS. Right now U.S. T-Mobile H932 is only compatible with LOS-16 ROMs but not LOS-17 ROMs.

Flashing LOS 18.1 with TWRP 3.5.1

Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone knows if you can flash LOS 18.1 with TWRP 3.5.1?
As far as I could determine, TWRP does not yet officially support Android 11.
I am not really eager to use Lineage recovery because of the lack of backup support, but if there is no way around I guess I have to
Br,
GeForce66 said:
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone knows if you can flash LOS 18.1 with TWRP 3.5.1?
As far as I could determine, TWRP does not yet officially support Android 11.
I am not really eager to use Lineage recovery because of the lack of backup support, but if there is no way around I guess I have to
Br,
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Hey,
Ofc you can flash it via TWRP. It should work perfectly fine like any other ROM.
If you need any information about installation or something else, check my POCO F1 Ultimate Collection & Guides

Question SM-T220 -- Questions on flashing from Stock to A13 GSI

Hi all,
I recently got an SM-T220 for cheap, running the latest stock rom, build: T220XXS3CWD1, (I've identified my stock rom is likely this EUX version: https://samfw.com/firmware/SM-T220/EUX/T220XXS3CWD1).
The tablet is not that powerful - it runs like a fat guy up a hill. So, my aim is to install the fastest, lightest/least bloated GSI version of A13 I can find, without Samsung UIX (Ie. just using the vanilla android UI) - I dont care for special features, dont need root or custom recovery, just performance. Currently, based on scanning this forum, I think this is the most suitable rom for me:
https://github.com/ponces/treble_build_aosp/releases/tag/v2023.06.16
Currently, I have unlocked the bootloader on the tablet and that is all so far (have not rooted, or added a custom recovery, yet).
So, before I get started on flashing, I have 3 questions:
What is the fastest known A13 rom, supported on this tablet? - has anyone done any testing on performance (i have seen a lot of aesthetic rom forks on this forum, but no benchmarks on performance)
What is the most smooth-brain method for installing a GSI - can a GSI just be flashed with odin?
Has anyone tried overclocking the A7? (this would likely require root, but curious if it is worth it).
Bananadroid Gsi rom
I use magisk with busy box module working on Hebf app for overclocking
Use twrp or stock recovery fastbootd patch to flash gsi . You can use Odin to flash gsi but is very inconvenient
All GSIs are the same (now A13 QPR3). why need benchmarks? its performance is ability of mobile processors.
Want performance ? then compile new kernel and creates new ROM.
(Now there are universal TWRP and soon its will has touch screen fixing, KernelSU new way to root .)

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