Not sure where else to put this but as its a viewsonic product ill try here. Has anyone got or played about with the viewpad? 10" capacitive screen runnign windows 7 and android 1.6.
Quite interested in it but cant seem to find that many reviews, hands on guides to it.
Mainly interested in the windows side of it if it works well enough really for installing windows programs with the android side for apps. Unfortunate its only 1.6 though and not at least 2,1.
skimminstones said:
Not sure where else to put this but as its a viewsonic product ill try here. Has anyone got or played about with the viewpad? 10" capacitive screen runnign windows 7 and android 1.6.
Quite interested in it but cant seem to find that many reviews, hands on guides to it.
Mainly interested in the windows side of it if it works well enough really for installing windows programs with the android side for apps. Unfortunate its only 1.6 though and not at least 2,1.
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Unfortunately I don't think you'll find too much interest/help in this section as though Sears Mis-stated that the tablet we bought ($379) was a VP 10 it's actually a GTab10... the difference being the VP10 is a an Atom (Proc.) Based tablet shipped with Windows and Android 1.6 vs. GTab being an ARM/Tegra2, Malata SMB-A1002 Proto design hybrid running a yet fully baked Android 2.2 version... so this new section is for GTabs and the 2 tabs with similar names are totally incompatible beasts
I did try a search and found soem new interesting news for the VP10... it's getting 2.2 update it seems...
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f27/viewsonic-viewpad-10-android-2-2-update-coming-41795/
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Unfortunately I don't think you'll find too much interest/help in this section as though Sears Mis-stated that the tablet we bought ($379) was a VP 10 it's actually a GTab10... the difference being the VP10 is a an Atom (Proc.) Based tablet shipped with Windows and Android 1.6 vs. GTab being an ARM/Tegra2, Malata SMB-A1002 Proto design hybrid running a yet fully baked Android 2.2 version... so this new section is for GTabs and the 2 tabs with similar names are totally incompatible beasts
I did try a search and found soem new interesting news for the VP10... it's getting 2.2 update it seems...
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f27/viewsonic-viewpad-10-android-2-2-update-coming-41795/
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I'm thinking about getting it today, first time seeing it, love the dual boot feature, was looking to either get the tab or a windows tablet, but now I want this, has anyone tried it out yet?
got one
I have a vpad10 (with the official froyo update installed) and can give you my experience...
First one returned with faulty touchscreen, second one fine, both suffer from dubious build quality (creaky joints etc). Screen is good, nice and bright and responsive (2nd time round anyway). Speakers are rubbish... my phone one's are better!
Runs windows 7 well, as well as an atom netbook (which it essentially is). Windows is surprisingly touch friendly, but not a patch on Android. Good for work though as still can't get goodies like MS Office on other tablets. Screen rotates automatically, but is more annoying than useful as I never use it portrait.
If you want it for Android forget it... Android is just a bit of a toy on an x86 processor... can't install all the Google Apps including calendar/contacts. If I keep mine I will probably change partitions to give the whole SSD (a very limited 16gb) to Windows.
In summary, this tablet is not the best of both worlds, rather the best compromise you'll find. Windows won't run on tegra chips, and Android won't play well with Intel (yet).
I'd be happy to answer any other questions anyone has.
I've been using my almost every day since I got it luckily for Christmas last year and love it. Viewsonic has recently updated Android so it can run 2.2 (Froyo) I would link you but I don't have 8 posts.
I'm use it everyday for my work and lifestyle.
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I have a vpad10 (with the official froyo update installed) and can give you my experience...
First one returned with faulty touchscreen, second one fine, both suffer from dubious build quality (creaky joints etc). Screen is good, nice and bright and responsive (2nd time round anyway). Speakers are rubbish... my phone one's are better!
Runs windows 7 well, as well as an atom netbook (which it essentially is). Windows is surprisingly touch friendly, but not a patch on Android. Good for work though as still can't get goodies like MS Office on other tablets. Screen rotates automatically, but is more annoying than useful as I never use it portrait.
If you want it for Android forget it... Android is just a bit of a toy on an x86 processor... can't install all the Google Apps including calendar/contacts. If I keep mine I will probably change partitions to give the whole SSD (a very limited 16gb) to Windows.
In summary, this tablet is not the best of both worlds, rather the best compromise you'll find. Windows won't run on tegra chips, and Android won't play well with Intel (yet).
I'd be happy to answer any other questions anyone has.
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Just pulled a Viewpad 10PI from ebay with Windows 7. I can't get it to boot into windows unless I have a keyboard installed. Is there a way to make Windows the default OS?
Thanks.
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Just pulled a Viewpad 10PI from ebay with Windows 7. I can't get it to boot into windows unless I have a keyboard installed. Is there a way to make Windows the default OS?
Thanks.
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Mine is the original vpad10, but sounds like your grub loader is the problem. Suggest reinstalling everything - android first then Windows 8 to get the fancy new Windows bootloader screen.
** To update everyone reading my original revue, the latest build of android x86 works brilliantly on this tablet, including all google apps and access to the play store. Windows 8 loads up but due to low screen resolution, will not load metro apps (unless you do a quick reg hack to stretch the screen - google it). After nearly 2 years use and a few drops, it's still going strong, good battery life, and upgraded hdd to 32g is much better.
I just wanted to share my experience with this device for anyone who is curious:
I went ahead and picked up the Chromebook Plus. I had initially thought of it as just a second laptop for quick web browsing. I was instead blown away at the ability to access the Google Play Store. I even side loaded F-Droid.
I managed to install all of the Office 365 mobile apps (some of them required side loading the apk). I also got Netflix, Amazon Prime, and the Spectrum TV App loaded (though the Spectrum app would pixelate and turn green from time to time). I also got Kodi running for Movies...
With Microsoft Remote Desktop app I can remote to my Windows PCs and Servers.
I'm going to see if I can get the thing to VPN into our Corporate Network.
According to settings it's running Android 6.0.1. I can't seem to change the device name (option not there). Also I had an issue with Outlook Mobile because of our MDM policy forcing a password and the device settings don't offer that option. I got around it using BlueMail.
Finally the Samsung Pen is wonderful. I like it better then the Surface Pen.
If there is anything someone wants me to try let me know, but so far I got more than I bargain for and may consider using this as a daily driver especially if I can get Kali Nethunter to work.
thanks for the comments! just got a chromebook plus today
Do you know what the metallic clip that comes in the box is for m
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Do you know what the metallic clip that comes in the box is for m
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It is to pull the PEN's replaceable tips, the replacement tips are also included in the same bag.
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I too got a Samsung Chromebook Plus to replace my Google Pixel C as a tablet with a more robust desktop class browser, with a real keyboard (although the Pixel C stock keyboard is fantastic and makes a world of difference using the Pixel C) track pad. I love the dual USB Type-C ports and the microSD slot. It's like getting a 12" tablet with all the extras.
So far I got most of my Android Apps installed. Except stuff that doesn't work like Widgets, Keyboards, and filemanagers (android apps cant access the microSD card).
Kodi Krypton 17 runs great in full screen immersive mode.
I initially bought an Open Box at Best Buy, the manager was nice enough to manually add in my $100 trade in. It was perfect until I closed it and noticed the bottom front edge was loose, like they didn't tighten 3 of the 4 screws down all the way, leaving a 0.3mm gap I could press down on the cover. Also with Open Box you risk the previous owner redeemed the offers. Google is giving buyers $20 Play Store credit and 100gb Drive storage for 2 years free. So I returned/exchanged it for a new one and paid the difference. (s/n 200,000)
The replacement had severe bluetooth interference. I could not listen to youtube videos without it constantly cutting out sitting in front of the unit, if I turned my head or moved it stuttered. I had to adjust my home wifi and it helped but still was unusable. As soon as I turned this unit on it forced an updated before setup. I mention this because it had issues running Facebook Live streams, which is one of the reasons I went for a Chromebook in the first place, to get a real browser.. It would pay 5-10 secs and get a "something went wrong". Note this happens with all the floor models / brands I tested at Best Buy. It does not happen with the Windows based laptops using Edge or Chrome Browser. So it's a ChromeOS issue. Also when the unit would auto sleep, sometimes it would not wake with the track pad, I had to press the keyboard. (s/n 100,00)
Went back to Best Buy and exchanged it for a higher s/n 200,000 model. Bluetooth works with very nominal stutter, I could walk several rooms away and it would still play fine. The track pad wakes the unit as it should without issue. But Facebook Live streams still only play 5-10 secs then pops up "something went wrong" on Stable channel 56.0.2924.110. So I decided to try switching to the Beta channel. It updated to 57.0.2987.85beta. I went to www.facebook.com/live to test random live streams, chose washington post's April the Giraffe stream and it played for a bit, switched to Michael Phelps live stream it played, went back to April the Giraffe and it gave the same error, I did a few refreshes and it would play and cut out, so it's random.. Again a ChromeOS issue. Live streams on YouTube play fine.
The keyboard is really good. I like the tactile response and clicky-ness compared to the other demo units. The smaller than usual and smaller than other keys tab and backspace are ackward being used to having huge ones on other keyboards. I do tend to have to look and miss, hitting the lock button instead at times. The track pad is great, some mention their finger gets stuck. I say let it "break in", once you get some finger smeg / smoot on it's surface it glides. The Pen is great fun, especially useful when my fingers feel oily, to touch the screen.. The speed and responsiveness is great in ChromeOS and android apps run fine.
I am really happy with it, hopefully Google fixes the issue with ChromeOS, it worked perfect last week before the update.
I am now looking for some type of folio and or skin, as well as a nice Tempered Glass Screen Protector /poke @intelliARMOR
If you have any suggestions or question feel free to ask, I would be willing to answer as well.
For those who own this laptop I wanted to get some advice.
I'm still in love with this laptop. I'm still in awe that I can run Android Apps on this Chromebook. This laptop has become my 2nd device (close to my go to) for everything.
Now here is where i'm having trouble. I read about the upcoming Samsung Chromebook Pro. It runs Intel instead of ARM and cost an extra $$$.
Now I would like to install a linux distro on it. I see that there aren't many ARM supported distros. So the question is should I:
1. Hold on to the Chromebook Plus and hope someone will make a good Linux ARM distro
2. Return the Chromebook Plus and pick up the Chromebook Pro
Thanks in advance..
I have Xenial/xfce running on it through crouton. I'm not even close to being an expert on ubuntu, but it seems to be working ok, with a couple querks (which may be me not understanding linux).
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what's the benefit of getting the netflix or amazon prime video android app if you can simply use the website btw?
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also, are you using smart lock with an android phone successfully on your chromebook?
Well I found a bug. I think it's within in ARC itself. ARC doesn't come with Device Manager (Settings >> Personal >> Services >> Device Manager) Missing the Device Management feature dwarfs the ability to get MDM going on it. With out MDM I can't access my Corporate Office 365 E-Mail using the Outlook Mobile App. (I ended up resorting to good old OWA for now).
I also learned that if you wanted to install an APK from the Google Play Store that is "not compatible" with your device, you will need to move your Chromebook in Developer Mode. It is only in this mode you can install APKs from unknown sources.
Sadly I had to give up the laptop and returned it today (grudgingly) . I was unaware that a "Pro" version was coming out in April with an Intel chip. While the ARM-OP1 can hold its own to everything I threw at it, the area that I'm concerned with the very limited options of Linux for ARM. So I'm going to wait out the next few weeks till I can get it. I heard April 12th so I'll report sometime then.
Did you have to enable developer mode to install the APKs?
Nice write up, thank you. I am currently really struggling with my decision on what to get next between the Pixel C, Samsung Galaxy Tab S3, Acer R13, Samsung Plus/Pro. I am coming from the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 and as you can see, I am struggling on whether to go with a Tablet or a Chromebook.
Of course the best of all worlds would be a Chromebook with a detachable screen, but then I would probably have to wait another year. Any advice? Is it awkward/hard to use this while laying in bed in tablet mode?
I am using the Samsung Chromebook Plus. I also have the Note 10.1 2014. If you do use the stylus on the Note, the Samsung Chromebook Plus (SC+) also comes with a stylus.
The SC+ is a little larger than the Note and, thus, a little heavier.
The SC+ runs Chromeos but also runs Android apps.
While in bed, I lay on my back, while reading an ebook or surfing the web. So holding the SC+ as a tablet is a little awkward, because of the weight. However, keeping the SC+ as a laptop, I prop the keyboard portion of the SC+ on my belly, taking the weight off my hands and arms. I adjust the sceen to my liking. When I need to shift to my side, it's already in laptop mode, so I would adjust my screen again to my liking while resting on the bed.
The lightest Android tablet I have is the Sony Xperia Z4 tablet. It is really light weight. While I like this tablet, I'm moving more towards the SC+ for everyday use, because of the keyboard portion.
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I love mine, depite a few little problems with Linux support.
Work offered to buy us gadgets with some left-over funds. I decided to go for this beast, as my iPad 2 and previous Samsung Chromebook (2015 version) had both died recently.
My thoughts:
Android stuff works pretty well so far. ChromeOS has matured a bit, but Android App Store is very welcome. The screen is huge & gorgeous, way too bright, and the keyboard is decent.
It didn't take me long to decide to put it in Developer mode -- I needed a fuller Linux than stock provides (no zsh?!?) -- and got Crouton up and running with no trouble.
The first Linux distro that I found with explicit support for this new box was ArchArm, I'm a Red Hat admin by trade and a Debian/embedded tinkerer by hobby, so I was a bit confused by Arch's way of doing things. Still, it's a solid distro, and once I got dhcpcd running on a USB ethernet dongle, I was able to get the bits I needed to feel more comfortable.
Incidentally, I tried several Desktop Environments, (at work I use xfce4 on RHEL7.3) and decided that Cinnamon is far and away the best fit for the CB+. It has built-in support for the HiDPi touch display & touchpad, and is easy enough to add the keyboard shortcuts to mimic most of the special Google-style keys.
I installed Arch on the SD card, so at the boot screen I can hit ctrl-u to boot linux or ctrl-d to boot into ChromeOS dev mode.
Two caveats: I have not had time or much reason to play with the stylus, in either environment, you'll need someone else's opinion for that.
Second, strangely, although wifi works under Arch, the reception is much, much weaker than under ChromeOS. I'm still investigating this, I know a magnesium-framed, aluminum-shelled device is going to be at a disadvantage with RF, but the mimo wifi setup works well under ChromeOS, so I assume it'll get better as Arch matures.
I'd give it an A as a Chromebook, B as a general Linux box, B+ as an Android device, and I expect the Bs to come up with patches.
So far I love mine for all of the reasons everyone . I am coming from an older Chromebook. My only issue is that sometimes the screen stays black after opening the Chromebook from a powered down state. I have to hold the power button down to get the power off, shut the screen and wait 10-20 seconds to try again. Is anyone else seeing this issue?
I'm so glad I found this thread. I just bought a Samsung Chromebook and didn't even know about the free offers like the Google Play Music, Drive Storage and $20 Play Credit. Today was the last day to redeem them too. Thanks for the info.
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I have had this laptop for a few months now, and have tried several things on it. Linux, dev mode, constant blowing it away...etc.
I will say this. I really had hope that this addition of android play store would help me change the way I work.... and you know what.... IT DID.
Now with all things there are trade offs, etc... and this laptop is no different, but as the months go by, the apps are getting better and better. There are very few apps that now have issues with the Samsung Chromebook Plus. It takes just about everything I have thrown at it, even playing command and conquest and GTA vice city.
I think of this laptop as a tablet with a perm keyboard for those times I need to lift a little heavier or quicker. The Pen is fantastic.
If you want a complete replacement, this laptop comes pretty dang close. If you are willing to think out of the box, this could easily be your next favorite goto.
Next steps for me... I would really like to nuke this thing and get an actual android OS kernel booting on it, with everything working. More on that later.
could you make a tutorial on how to install linux on the samsung chromebook plus?
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Work offered to buy us gadgets with some left-over funds. I decided to go for this beast, as my iPad 2 and previous Samsung Chromebook (2015 version) had both died recently.
My thoughts:
Android stuff works pretty well so far. ChromeOS has matured a bit, but Android App Store is very welcome. The screen is huge & gorgeous, way too bright, and the keyboard is decent.
It didn't take me long to decide to put it in Developer mode -- I needed a fuller Linux than stock provides (no zsh?!?) -- and got Crouton up and running with no trouble.
The first Linux distro that I found with explicit support for this new box was ArchArm, I'm a Red Hat admin by trade and a Debian/embedded tinkerer by hobby, so I was a bit confused by Arch's way of doing things. Still, it's a solid distro, and once I got dhcpcd running on a USB ethernet dongle, I was able to get the bits I needed to feel more comfortable.
Incidentally, I tried several Desktop Environments, (at work I use xfce4 on RHEL7.3) and decided that Cinnamon is far and away the best fit for the CB+. It has built-in support for the HiDPi touch display & touchpad, and is easy enough to add the keyboard shortcuts to mimic most of the special Google-style keys.
I installed Arch on the SD card, so at the boot screen I can hit ctrl-u to boot linux or ctrl-d to boot into ChromeOS dev mode.
Two caveats: I have not had time or much reason to play with the stylus, in either environment, you'll need someone else's opinion for that.
Second, strangely, although wifi works under Arch, the reception is much, much weaker than under ChromeOS. I'm still investigating this, I know a magnesium-framed, aluminum-shelled device is going to be at a disadvantage with RF, but the mimo wifi setup works well under ChromeOS, so I assume it'll get better as Arch matures.
I'd give it an A as a Chromebook, B as a general Linux box, B+ as an Android device, and I expect the Bs to come up with patches.
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[ive tried multiple times to install 4 different type of linux os with no success if you would be so kind as to help me it would be very appreciated. something light, but wholesome.]
2.4G wifi Problems
I love the chromebook plus with one exception....2.4G wifi has been almost unusable. I have tried with 4 different routers, but I am unable to get more than 2 to 3Mbps no matter how close I am to the router. Range is awful. Every other device gets over 70Mbps under the same conditions. 5G works much better but still doesn't perform as well as most other devices.
Has anybody else experienced extremely poor performance with 2.4G wifi? Any suggestions?
Thanks
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I love the chromebook plus with one exception....2.4G wifi has been almost unusable. I have tried with 4 different routers, but I am unable to get more than 2 to 3Mbps no matter how close I am to the router. Range is awful. Every other device gets over 70Mbps under the same conditions. 5G works much better but still doesn't perform as well as most other devices.
Has anybody else experienced extremely poor performance with 2.4G wifi? Any suggestions?
Thanks
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Turned out to be a defective unit. Exchanged for another Chromebook Plus. 2.4G working properly now. Overall Wifi performance is still not very good compared to other devices.
Guys, I am planning to buy Chromebook Plus as well. How has your experience been since you bought it?
Any tips, accessory recommendations etc
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Guys, I am planning to buy Chromebook Plus as well. How has your experience been since you bought it?
Any tips, accessory recommendations etc
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pretty amazing
only downside is I can't consistently use Smart Unlock for Chromebook with my OnePlus 3 or Pixel 2 XL
I recently got a low-mid end chromebook. Gotta say i expected it to operate like android... it does not lol. Kind of wish it was regular old android... anyway to replace chrome os with an android version? I mean i know they got that androidx86 project because i played with that a bit a while ago... would it be basically the same? Stick it on a usb thumb drive and install?
Yeah kind of figured it couldn't be done, at least reading up on the tablet i have which is the Acer R11 , there's crazy stuff you gotta do like moving hardware pins and what not. Kind of wish they would just stick full on bios's in devices and stop trying to limit what we can do with devices we OWN.
Your running the latest Chrome OS 69 on the R11?
I've just bought an Acer 15 Chromebook and I'm impressed by how well the Android integration works.
It's a touch disjointed at times but still feels like the best of both worlds.
It's pretty much 90% of what I expected running Android apps on a laptop would be like without seeing it in person before I bought the device.
Yep, I'm really enjoying my Acer R11 CB5-132T-C1LK (Developer mode)! Have put my old Microsoft 10 notebook to pasture...