Play has a faster chipset, better GPU, USBC, 4K video. Loses .2" of screen space. Price on Amazon for USA buyers is $11 more for the Play which is hardly anything. Am I missing something? I'm assuming the price difference is greater in other countries where its enough to make a difference? I'm genuinely asking not trying to be a jerk or a fanboy of either phone.
If the price is that close, I would suggest you get the Play. It has a much better processor than the 8x (Kirin 970 vs 710). The reason I purchased the 8x was because it was very cheap. In some places, the 8x can be purchased for under $200.
Also, please note that the Play has worse battery life due to the more powerful processor.
I did wind up going with the Play. $269 for the 8x or $280 for the Play. No brainer. I would agree that if you could get the 8X for under $200 and the Play was still close to $300 then the 8x could be better.
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I did wind up going with the Play. $269 for the 8x or $280 for the Play. No brainer. I would agree that if you could get the 8X for under $200 and the Play was still close to $300 then the 8x could be better.
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Some places in Asia and the Middle East are selling the 8x for around $200, though it's mostly local stores (not online).
Yeah I checked a few including Ali and ebay and there was 0 appreciable price difference. Was also looking at the Pocophone F1 because of the Snapdragon 845 and 6GB of Ram but no NFC and DRM issues=no.
The 8x was £200 in the UK compared to the £240 for the Play. It might not seem much but it's still a 20% increase in price.
Personally, I prefer the bezels + slim notch on the 8x and I only use my phone for social media and browsing, the processor in the 8x is more than fast enough to handle everything I throw at it. It's the same reason I dropped from a Note 9 to the 8x because people have such powerful and expensive phones and don't actually require them - nor did I.
I think if I had done my research, I probably would have gone for the Play purely based on Private Space for my dual sim business purposes. But for most people, they shouldn't need Private Space anyway.
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Hello guys and girls.
I was browsing today checking somethings on Amazon and I saw the Asus Transformer Prime 64 GB is almost 200$ more expensive than 1 month ago. I know Asus said they revised the Prime due Wifi, GPS, Bluetooth, 1080p screen and 3G, and it would get 100$ more expensive.
My question is: they replaced the problematic Primes from stores and replaced them by the revised ones? If yes, the only way I get the old one (I barrely use Bluetooth, 720p screen is enough for me, I will never use GPS, I have enough signal of Wifi from the places I will use it and I think my mom won't pay 20$ (it's quite expensive in my country, this price) for the tablet 3G plan (or I will be able to use my micro SIM from my phone on it?)) is by eBay?
Sorry for the confusing post.
They is no new model prime out now. The one you describe is the tf-700. A minor upgrade to current prime. It won't be out till June at the earliest. There is no "old" prime. Lol. And there is no 3gbp version out now and the tf-700 is not 3g also.
I'd say go out n get the Prime. Its still a brand new device n not even widely available yet due to such high demands of it. Its the most sought after tablet since its the most powerful, having a tegra3 and best display of any tablet out today. Its a great device. Just read the "positive transformer prime" thread in my signature.
Oh, thanks for the info. I am saying this because, in mid December, the 64 GB was 600$ on Amazon. I was browsing today and it's 800$. Some error of them? Or it's right?
I am just confused, what was reviewed and already on the market? I was looking at here almost since it's announcement, but I will only be able to buy it in March or April.
Thanks again.
The 32gb should be available everywhere online for $499 American money. The 64gb are harder to come by n those I believe are $599. I'm not sure if its available in your country et but you could always order from online. Not sure why the price hike but some places around the world its actually costs more than American version if you convert price from that country to American money. THE current Transformer Prime is available now though. That's the one you want to look for. Transformer Prime
Ah, thanks, I got it. It's impossible to buy eletronics in Brazil. a 32 GB version costs between 1000 and 1500 american dolars. Ps Vita will cost 800 american dolars, Wifi only. Taxes are way to high. Well, I think I will buy the 32 Gb version tough... How many movies and series + music + game data + Android stuff did you managed to fit in it?
Most likely what you're seeing are people who have already bought it, and are turning around and reselling it at a higher price. Once amazon gets more in stock, they should have them priced at msrp ($499/32gb $599/64gb).
It's not imposible
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xiaomi seems to go the same way with the upcoming mi2.
i can see myself buying two great phones for the price of one.
one running stock android and the other one with miui.
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It would be great if the next Nexus phone came out similarly priced to the GSM GNex. I think it would go a long way towards showing people that $650 is not the best price for phones and are only being propped up by ridiculous post-paid contract shenanigans.
If the "Nexus 4" is under $400 off contract, and is pentaband GSM, I'll probably buy it. With the T-Mobile $30 data plan, and the Straight Talk $45 "unlimited" plan, I do not see a purpose for buying a phone on contract. It's still cheaper to go pre-paid even if the phone costs $599, but I'll probably wait until it comes down considerably in price. I try to swap my phones once a year.
The article's highly speculative; he's drawing conclusions from out-of-context evidence like a quote about patent restrictions and the Nexus 7 strategy. The N7 strategy, however, came about due to necessity: consumers just weren't buying more expensive tablets, and they needed to kill the kindle fire "renegade".
Phones, on the other hand, are selling fine for high costs (I would guess, largely due to the BS subsidy/contract system) and google would risk scaring its oems by delivering a dirt cheap competitor.
The next Nexus may indeed be relatively cheap on the play store, but I'd guess the starting price would be at least $500. After all, the $400 price wasn't introduced until the GN was around 6 months old. Even now, the GN is just $50 below that.
The only way I could think of introducing a $400 phone would be to make it only a minor upgrade. This isn't ruled out in general, especially with the rumors of multiple Nexii.
The Nexus 4 costs a mere $299 and the Nexus 7 tablet only $199. Many analysts think Google is heavily subsidizing these products, selling them at break-even or even losing money (to an extent, that may depend on some cost-accounting assumptions--suffice it to say, they aren't believed to be profiting from the hardware sales).
My question is--will this pricing be sustained? I care both for theoretical reasons--it's just an interesting question--and personal reasons--I am going to switch to T-Mobile's Value Plan, which offers cheaper rates in exchange for eliminating hardware subsidies.
Thanks for your opinions.
Yes for me yes
I've seen an article like 3 months ago where some chinese company made a 4,7 inch phone with such specs that it could beat the Galaxy S3 and the price.....only 199 US dollars. =)
Samsung, Sony, HTC and every other major OEMs OVERCHARGE their products. $ $
But in my opinion yes Google will stay with the prices as their goal is to make phone affordable yet powerful.
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The Nexus 4 costs a mere $299 and the Nexus 7 tablet only $199. Many analysts think Google is heavily subsidizing these products, selling them at break-even or even losing money (to an extent, that may depend on some cost-accounting assumptions--suffice it to say, they aren't believed to be profiting from the hardware sales).
My question is--will this pricing be sustained? I care both for theoretical reasons--it's just an interesting question--and personal reasons--I am going to switch to T-Mobile's Value Plan, which offers cheaper rates in exchange for eliminating hardware subsidies.
Thanks for your opinions.
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dont forget that google's gains from ads, searches, datamining, play store sales and in-app sales and ads.
they dont really need any hardware revenues, they got into phones and tablet sales just to shock the market which (mostly for tablet) was growing stale and lazy.
I'm pretty sure they don't make a loss.. they might be making a slight profit in their hardware but the main profit comes in the software
Updated Thoughts on Nexus Pricing, Ref Moto X
Most of the predictions and pundits said the Moto X would be very affordable off-contract, perhaps even below the (very impressive) $299 price point of the Nexus 4. What a bust that turned out to be. The announcement didn't even talk about off-contract, then later in the day it came out that off-contract will be typical high-end pricing.
But while disappointed, I'm not really that surprised. I've had my doubts about whether Google will continue low Nexus pricing. It would seem to cause a lot of relationship conflict, with carriers (in U.S.) but especially with manufacturers. The handset makers are, understandably, touchy enough about Google owning Motorola. Having Motorola become the disruptive, low-cost competitor would only fan the flames. Thus, not surprised that the Moto X doesn't impress on price.
So back to Nexus. There are those who believe the Moto X is the Nexus 5...meaning there is no real Nexus planned for this year. If that proves true, it reinforces the point. I also predict a phased rise in the price of Nexuses when they do come out. The next one, whenever it comes out, will be $375-$400 for the low memory configuration. Then the next one will increase by another $75-100, at which point they will have reached their equilibrium price. Also, there may not be a Nexus device every year--only when Google has a reason for releasing one.
I really hope I am wrong. A few months ago I switched to Tmo's new "un-carrier" plan. We have data for a family of 5 for $120/month (the kids have to make do with 500 Mb, which really isn't that bad). Depending how often you buy new phones, and whether you get BOGOs, etc, it is about break-even
at full retail pricing. But if you can get Nexuses for $299, it offers very compelling savings.
(P.S. Yes, I do understand Google makes money off ads, not devices, and if they really wanted to, they could sustain low Nexus pricing forever. I didn't mean sustainable in the pure profit margin sense, I meant it in the marketing and partner relationships sense. )
Simple answer: yes!
But: there is always a "but"
Unless you're into tech and knows the product offering then this will be a steal, however for 90% of the consumer shopping for a phone looks at features which they never use. Samsung, HTC, Sony etc. All can charge $600 because they have justify their developer team also the money spent on marketing.
Sammy has Touchwiz, HTC has Sense, etc. which try to differentiate then self from other manufacturers. Nexus products were intended for developers however Google saw the potential of gaining market share from Apple and jumped on the opportunity.
Unless other manufacturers pressure Google to change their price point we will continue to receive great products at low cost and for that thank you Google.
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The damn phone is on backorder every where in the US at least. Looked online at amazon and eBay's uk sites and they don't even have any period. Not sure if the phone has even hit Europe yet. I've been holding out for the 6GB model but I am tired of my GS6 Edge and it's broken screen and my backup phone is like a 2013 Moto x and yeah it sucks.
I'm pretty sure, I don't think om understand how much people will buy their stuff if they quit messing around and actually make an excellent product.
Heard from ZTE stock is ready, should be back on sale very very soon!
They have been in business since 1985. I am pretty sure this was a marketing ploy used to generate interest and demand for their product. It is human nature to want what we cannot have. Just be patient.
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The damn phone is on backorder every where in the US at least. Looked online at amazon and eBay's uk sites and they don't even have any period. Not sure if the phone has even hit Europe yet. I've been holding out for the 6GB model but I am tired of my GS6 Edge and it's broken screen and my backup phone is like a 2013 Moto x and yeah it sucks.
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Well it was first released in the Chinese market. From what I can tell, due to carriers and a bunch of restrictions with selling stuff in the US, some companies are very cautious. First Axon needed to test the waters with a lower scale launch.
Also don't hate on the OG Moto X. It's seriously one of the best devices ever, up there with the Nexuses.
I'm glad I pre-ordered for the first run. This is one of the best phone values I've had in a long time, comparable to the Oneplus One when it released. Keep the prices low and specs high, engage the xda community, keep the warranty, and I will continue to be a customer.
I think it should be getting MORE attention. It is time the big name brands take a hit in their pricing and provide affordable flagships, however they need to do s, otherwise I will continue to buy the high value chinese brands.
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I'm glad I pre-ordered for the first run. This is one of the best phone values I've had in a long time, comparable to the Oneplus One when it released. Keep the prices low and specs high, engage the xda community, keep the warranty, and I will continue to be a customer.
I think it should be getting MORE attention. It is time the big name brands take a hit in their pricing and provide affordable flagships, however they need to do s, otherwise I will continue to buy the high value chinese brands.
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I agree, for $400 (especially + giftcard and headphones) its a great deal. The two major cons of the device are the reception, and camera. Minor quirks with software can be fixed, and the capacitive button locations can be gotten used to. As a device I'd give it a 7.5/10, as a device that costs $400, 8.8/10. I am still surprised that it has an s6's amoled, audio that is easily top 3, etc. To me, the only thing that is making me question this phone is the reception, other than that I am completely happy with it even with the other issues.
Galaxy Note 7 on back order also so cut ZTE some slack. I can name several flagship phones that sold out or back ordered in the first month or 2 and no one lost their mindss like people are doing with ZTE.
ZTE just told me that the phone came to the USA market officially before the EU market so the USA version may seem better than EU.
The Official EU release is coming very soon though this month it looks like.
They promise that they provide good service to all users around the world and not just the USA
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ZTE just told me that the phone came to the USA market officially before the EU market so the USA version may seem better than EU.
The Official EU release is coming very soon though this month it looks like.
They promise that they provide good service to all users around the world and not just the USA
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Dude, "good service" for me includes unlockable bootloader for everybody, not just americans. Ordering a oneplus 3 next week, once the graphite color is available. Gold is ugly as hell. Don't only women buy gold phones? I only have seen women and gay dudes with gold phones
I received my ZTE Axon 7 Gold Colour today in Frankfurt, Germany.
I ordered on the 31st of August and picked it up at Media Market this afternoon (02.09.)
It was sold out in a day once it appeared on the German price comparison website idealo.
I am loving the sleek build of the phone so far and its speed but funny enough, the listening sound appears to be too low even on high volume and I cannot find any theme store anywhere as the stock UI is ugly as hell.
I will keep going through it to see its strength and weaknesses.
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ZTE just told me that the phone came to the USA market officially before the EU market so the USA version may seem better than EU.
The Official EU release is coming very soon though this month it looks like.
They promise that they provide good service to all users around the world and not just the USA
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What are the versions available in the EU or UK market?
I'm planning to buy a Chinese version, 4GB+128GB for about 2900RMB, 330 GBP, during my China trip later this month. But I'm slightly concerned that I wont be receiving OTA updates for EU markets afterwards.
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What are the versions available in the EU or UK market?
I'm planning to buy a Chinese version, 4GB+128GB for about 2900RMB, 330 GBP, during my China trip later this month. But I'm slightly concerned that I wont be receiving OTA updates for EU markets afterwards.
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OTA updates aren't based on where you currently are located. They're based on the region of the device. A Chinese A7 will only be getting the Chinese OTAs.
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I'm glad I pre-ordered for the first run. This is one of the best phone values I've had in a long time, comparable to the Oneplus One when it released. Keep the prices low and specs high, engage the xda community, keep the warranty, and I will continue to be a customer.
I think it should be getting MORE attention. It is time the big name brands take a hit in their pricing and provide affordable flagships, however they need to do s, otherwise I will continue to buy the high value chinese brands.
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I think this may be like the OnePlus One in that it's an exceptional package for the price. The Axon 8 or whatever going forward will likely have less bang for buck as with OnePlus Two/X because of demand.
I'm hoping that for once being an early adopter (albeit waiting 6 weeks) will pay off with a phone that I will get a good two-three years out of.
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The damn phone is on backorder every where in the US at least. Looked online at amazon and eBay's uk sites and they don't even have any period. Not sure if the phone has even hit Europe yet. I've been holding out for the 6GB model but I am tired of my GS6 Edge and it's broken screen and my backup phone is like a 2013 Moto x and yeah it sucks.
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my local best buy has the grey version in stock today, less than 3. im really contemplating exchanging my nexus 6p for it. its a tough decision because i love android 7.0 but the battery life and lcd is subpar on the 6p. your getting more bang for buck with the axon. the only concern i have is getting ota updates and any rom development.
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my local best buy has the grey version in stock today, less than 3. im really contemplating exchanging my nexus 6p for it. its a tough decision because i love android 7.0 but the battery life and lcd is subpar on the 6p. your getting more bang for buck with the axon. the only concern i have is getting ota updates and any rom development.
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If you go to the local ZTE USA website, you can order the phone. According to their website and this device will ship prior to 9/9. That is but a few days, but since they already know when it will shipband this has been on their site for several weeks, this was probably a marketing ploy more than likely. The hope to be to increase demand by reducing supply. I am quite sure, this company of professionals, that has been in business since 1985, did not make a rookie mistake like this.
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If you go to the local ZTE USA website, you can order the phone. According to their website and this device will ship prior to 9/9. That is but a few days, but since they already know when it will shipband this has been on their site for several weeks, this was probably a marketing ploy more than likely. The hope to be to increase demand by reducing supply. I am quite sure, this company of professionals, that has been in business since 1985, did not make a rookie mistake like this.
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I suspect that Best Buy is getting first dibs on the latest batch, possibly to make up for not receiving any units from the August batch (they all went to ZTE/Newegg/B&H and some to Amazon).
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The damn phone is on backorder every where in the US at least. Looked online at amazon and eBay's uk sites and they don't even have any period. Not sure if the phone has even hit Europe yet. I've been holding out for the 6GB model but I am tired of my GS6 Edge and it's broken screen and my backup phone is like a 2013 Moto x and yeah it sucks.
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I was just in Germany last week and it wasnt in stock at all
Untill I ordered it on media markt and it arrived on the day after
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Picked up my Grey from BestBuy yesterday from pre-order. The retail launch ones are supposed to go on sale later this week.
I managed to get the grey one today at a Best Buy 45 miles from me, they only had one and no idea when or if the store will get more stock.
It's mighty nice though, I bought to replace my Note 7, seems much faster
After releasing the Redmi k20 pro with a over priced tag. How many of you think that the Mi A3 series is decently priced? And how many are gonna buy it?
i got it. it's got a weird spec that's not available in china: 4gb/128gb. so there's no direct comparison. Mi's phone prices are typically around $20 more expensive here than in china for every model, but a3 has no comparison. It's just a tier below the best configured 128/6 in china, with the price just a bit lower too. I think it's hard to compare, but it might be slightly inflated, though not too much. However, you do kinda pay for stuff you may not want, such as 128gb ROM, when there's SD expansion, and mid tier specs for casual users. A bit more RAM might have been more useful, but then you'd end up clashing with one of the 3 chinese market offerings, allowing for direct comparison, which they evidently are trying to avoid.
A sensible option for such spec'd phones would be the 4/64, which is priced around f1299 rmb / 183usd in china. Now I'd surely be willing to let go of a bit or ROM for that kind of bargain, rather than paying 225usd for my a3. That's a 23% discount, not insignificant. Yet by offering us no other option, xiaomi sorta secured increased profit margins, while overtly increased ROM size. As we know from apple's pricing strategies, those increase in ROM/RAM holds more margins with each tier upgrade; i.e. their cost probably didn't increase as much as their selling price, allowing for more profits.
Incidentally, I see the K20pro release here playing a similar game, even more egregiously. Only one 256/8 option, priced way above 9t and even more expensive than mi9. I hate this pricing strategy, and will avoid buying such inflated options as I do have access to chinese market phones if needed. Price point is important, and selling us inflated RAM/ROM to jack up price points might just ruin the taste and value for us global market buyers. Maybe they know something I don't, but I've lost interest seeing the k20pro price and options here