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Hello everyone,
Right now I have another thread for the root over ADB with DirtySanta, I've that far. I have a potential method but I need more information on it from somebody else so I am waiting on a response from him, once i have that I'll work on it. If you guys have any other potential ideas that'd be great.
Thanks,
Abine45
This is my link to the root on ADB. I will be updating it tonight or tomorrow for the convenience of others. Thanks for waiting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-v10/general/temporary-root-adb-t3523538
NEW INFORMATION FOUND! I GOT SIGNIFICANT ROOT ACCESS WITH DIRTYSANTA!!!
SO i used the DirtySanta fearing for my life I wouldn't ruin my device, well the v10 failed it. rebooted and it didn't do anything but reboot back into the normal bootloader and stuff. But what i found is that he go the dirty cow to just work under root, so maybe from there we could do something, anybody have any ideas?
people care but it seems kind of like you expect people who have no clue to do any of this to assist. Hence the reason they are willing to pay a rather large sum of money for a bounty.
1. You cannot repackage a TOT file, well you can but, because it is digitally signed so that the locked boot loader will recognize it and allow it access to image the system. Repacking a rooted version on MM or Nougat will brick the phone if it is not digitally signed by LG.
2. You can pull a copy of the boot image with dirty cow but you can do that from the TOT or KDZ. You cannot put a new one in with dirty cow with out bricking the phone.
3. Most likely not. SELINUX policies combined with updates and fixes have removed most of the previous exploits.
4. Nothing personal but if you are asking us where the boot image resides... that does not inspire anyone here to give you a hand. You need to be in the android devs forum asking these questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking
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people care but it seems kind of like you expect people who have no clue to do any of this to assist. Hence the reason they are willing to pay a rather large sum of money for a bounty.
1. You cannot repackage a TOT file, well you can but, because it is digitally signed so that the locked boot loader will recognize it and allow it access to image the system. Repacking a rooted version on MM or Nougat will brick the phone if it is not digitally signed by LG.
2. You can pull a copy of the boot image with dirty cow but you can do that from the TOT or KDZ. You cannot put a new one in with dirty cow with out bricking the phone.
3. Most likely not. SELINUX policies combined with updates and fixes have removed most of the previous exploits.
4. Nothing personal but if you are asking us where the boot image resides... that does not inspire anyone here to give you a hand. You need to be in the android devs forum asking these questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking
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How did Tungkick manage to repackage it then? The dirty cow exploit can exchange recovery though on an unlocked bootloader so shouldn't I be able to replace the boot image if done correctly wouldn't it work? I could possibly unpack everything and modify it all and test it but the issue comes back to repacking and flashing?
Ask him, but if you attempt to do this on a locked and encrypted boot loader then you will brick the phone. I mean think about it, if it was really just that simple every phone would be rooted and rom'd. Most phones running 6 or above have had the security vastly increased to make the phone secure so they can be used by government employees. Hence the introduction to SELINUX polices into the kernel which is why getting root is so unbelievably difficult. The locked boot loader resets everything at boot so getting root and maintaining is so hard combined with SELINUX does not allow standard root to perm. write anything to the system partition and then good old hboot kills anything you did mange to write on reboot... you can start to see how difficult this really is.
Tungkick did this on 5.1 Lollipop not 6.0 Marshmallow. The above mentioned difficulties with increased SELunix security plus 6.0 and up requires systemless root.
Still would love to know why no dev will go near this Phone. Does XDA have some deal with LG to not hack their phones? Very fishy why every dev avoids this device like it has the plague.
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Tungkick did this on 5.1 Lollipop not 6.0 Marshmallow. The above mentioned difficulties with increased SELunix security plus 6.0 and up requires systemless root.
Still would love to know why no dev will go near this Phone. Does XDA have some deal with LG to not hack their phones? Very fishy why every dev avoids this device like it has the plague.
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LG are just not popular devices for hacking due to they make if extremely difficult. LG is a Corp. friendly company it is why Verizon loves them where companies like HTC are a bit more user sympathetic.
Funny you say that
beavis5706 said:
Tungkick did this on 5.1 Lollipop not 6.0 Marshmallow. The above mentioned difficulties with increased SELunix security plus 6.0 and up requires systemless root.
Still would love to know why no dev will go near this Phone. Does XDA have some deal with LG to not hack their phones? Very fishy why every dev avoids this device like it has the plague.
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Funny you say that! Tungick said to me, and i quote "[email protected]#$g you" and blocked me from Facebook. He also told me that he wouldn't tell me because it's a secret. He didn't speak very great English, that's why there is an ing at the end of the F-bomb. I asked Jcase through XDA and he said he wouldn't and so i put it better explanation of help through an email and he said I was harassing him... In which case before hand he said he doesn't develop for LG because he says basically we are A-holes sadly and that we don't live up to our donation pledges.
That's what I'm saying though. It's like no dev will go anywhere near an LG device, at least the newer ones anyway.
They can't be much harder to crack than Samsung and those are getting cracked.
The person who rooted 5.1 on V10 basically tells you to F off. Yeah there is nothing odd about that.
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That's what I'm saying though. It's like no dev will go anywhere near an LG device, at least the newer ones anyway.
They can't be much harder to crack than Samsung and those are getting cracked.
The person who rooted 5.1 on V10 basically tells you to F off. Yeah there is nothing odd about that.
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True, that's why I'm going to try to do it. If you know anything and want to help could use it.
Wish I could help. All I know here is you need systemless root on 6.0+. This has nothing to do with the v10 in particular. Systemless root should work on all devices 6.0+. It has already been achieved on the Galaxy s7 and it has locked bootloader. I don't see any reason why this can't work on the v10.
I just installed Linux on my computer gonna try somethings this weekend... We need to keep in touch
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I just installed Linux on my computer gonna try somethings this weekend... We need to keep in touch
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For sure, message me on xda.
beavis5706 said:
Wish I could help. All I know here is you need systemless root on 6.0+. This has nothing to do with the v10 in particular. Systemless root should work on all devices 6.0+. It has already been achieved on the Galaxy s7 and it has locked bootloader. I don't see any reason why this can't work on the v10.
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Anybody can help! Do some research and send it and whatever you would like to do. Try different things, Try to modify bits of code and see what you can do! Always gotta start somewhere!
Modify code? You just went way above my head. I know about root, certainly don't know how to achieve it. That's why I count on the folks at XDA. I only have one v10, can't afford to brick it. Plus I already have root on 5.1.1 and I heard that 6.0 causes this phone to have problems.
Many, many v10's were offered up in order to attain root. Not one was taken by any dev. Maybe you can still get your hands on one of those.
You need to find someone that knows about systemless root. Without that you aren't getting anywhere.
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Modify code? You just went way above my head. I know about root, certainly don't know how to achieve it. That's why I count on the folks at XDA. I only have one v10, can't afford to brick it. Plus I already have root on 5.1.1 and I heard that 6.0 causes this phone to have problems.
Many, many v10's were offered up in order to attain root. Not one was taken by any dev. Maybe you can still get your hands on one of those.
You need to find someone that knows about systemless root. Without that you aren't getting anywhere.
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The thing with that is the fact that even if I know how systemless root works, I still have no way to install it, so first I need to find a way to get in the system.
Think I might have a way though
From what I understand systemless root will modify the boot image to attain root. Super SU will decide how to flash based on firmware version. Will automatically root normal with Lollipop and down, will automatically modify boot image on Marshmallow and up. How you will be able to modify the boot image on a VS990 without bricking it I don't know.
In order to do system less root we need a unlocked bootloader... It says that everywhere I'm reading
Hi abine45,
Please read this post completely, the guys here are close to obtain the perma root on android 6, using dirty cow.
https://github.com/timwr/CVE-2016-5195/issues/9
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I looked at this thread... a bit more technical than I am able to do... did it end up working? Looks like no, but I might have missed something.
Thanks!
Question for those of you with experience on the V10. I just upgraded to the V20 (love it btw). My V10 is probably the first phone I never rooted, or loaded a ROM on. I've had many devices with custom roms in the past, however they were always carried branded (not unlocked) phones. Here is my question:
I'm giving my V10 to a friend in Europe in a few weeks. Already confirmed that it supports all the necessary bands and channels, plus I've used it over there in the past without issue. Being that it's a VS990, is there an official "LG" factory ROM that I can load so that all the verizon branded crap is gone, apps etc, and so that it works like what most Europeans would expect? Just a plain "unlocked" V10 that gets OTA updates? Or is it not possible, or worth the effort?
Thanks in advance..
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Can't flash roms to VS990. Locked bootloader does not allow TWRP to be installed, which you need to flash roms.
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I'm giving my V10 to a friend in Europe in a few weeks. Already confirmed that it supports all the necessary bands and channels, plus I've used it over there in the past without issue. Being that it's a VS990, is there an official "LG" factory ROM that I can load so that all the verizon branded crap is gone, apps etc, and so that it works like what most Europeans would expect? Just a plain "unlocked" V10 that gets OTA updates? Or is it not possible, or worth the effort?
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There is no such thing endorsed by LG. How important is it to remove the Verizon crud and how much risk are you willing to deal with? Are you adverse to voiding your warranty? Are you willing to pay a repair fee for "accidentally" flashing the wrong KDZ file?
According to multiple reports the KDZ files from the various V10s are pretty compatible with each other. Given this you could download a H901 (T-Mobile) KDZ file and install that and it should be free of bloat, there is even speculation this could be used to unlock the bootloader.
Aside from bricking your device, my biggest worry is the cell modem may have slightly different hardware and the firmware for the H901 might not drive it correctly, though that may merely mean it cannot connect to CDMA networks. Much of the cell modem configuration is left untouched by KDZ files, but there is always a first time for an unpleasant surprise.
So, how comfortable are you with risk? I'm cautiously optimistic this method will work, but this is risky! If you do try this, could you please report back whether it succeeded or not? (more reports good)
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Can't flash roms to VS990. Locked bootloader does not allow TWRP to be installed, which you need to flash roms.
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I was unaware the boot loader on this had not been unlocked yet. Seeing as it's been out a year, I just assumed it had been by this point. My bad!
emdroidle said:
There is no such thing endorsed by LG. How important is it to remove the Verizon crud and how much risk are you willing to deal with? Are you adverse to voiding your warranty? Are you willing to pay a repair fee for "accidentally" flashing the wrong KDZ file?
According to multiple reports the KDZ files from the various V10s are pretty compatible with each other. Given this you could download a H901 (T-Mobile) KDZ file and install that and it should be free of bloat, there is even speculation this could be used to unlock the bootloader.
Aside from bricking your device, my biggest worry is the cell modem may have slightly different hardware and the firmware for the H901 might not drive it correctly, though that may merely mean it cannot connect to CDMA networks. Much of the cell modem configuration is left untouched by KDZ files, but there is always a first time for an unpleasant surprise.
So, how comfortable are you with risk? I'm cautiously optimistic this method will work, but this is risky! If you do try this, could you please report back whether it succeeded or not? (more reports good)
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It's really not so important, but there's always some risk with you change bootloaders or flash anything to the device. I just know that with this being a Verizon device running in EU, any OTA updates from Verizon (I assume) would never get installed. I was really just looking for a way to keep OTA updates flowing, and as a plus, remove the Verizon bloatware.
I appreciate your candid and informational response! I might just give this a try while I'm over there. =)
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xarius76 said:
I was unaware the boot loader on this had not been unlocked yet. Seeing as it's been out a year, I just assumed it had been by this point. My bad!
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This is a substantial annoyance to many people, though there are some hopes of working around this...
xarius76 said:
It's really not so important, but there's always some risk with you change bootloaders or flash anything to the device. I just know that with this being a Verizon device running in EU, any OTA updates from Verizon (I assume) would never get installed. I was really just looking for a way to keep OTA updates flowing, and as a plus, remove the Verizon bloatware.
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I won't swear to it, but I was under the impression the updates come from LG, at which point it should still nominally update if brought to the EU. Failing that, LG Bridge should be able to get updates.
xarius76 said:
I appreciate your candid and informational response! I might just give this a try while I'm over there. =)
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Remember, this is risky though hopeful.
I am a long time frustrated Samsung on Verizon user; that has been living with out root, and I am considering an G6 and would like to know if I will be able to root the phone on the Verizon network.
I saw the thread about the OEM bootloader, and I suspect that you would need to have that in order to root.
Could someone confirm, can the G6 be rooted?
If Verizon prevents this, I will switch to another phone vendor.
Thanks, in Advanced
MrJoker8989 said:
I am a long time frustrated Samsung on Verizon user; that has been living with out root, and I am considering an G6 and would like to know if I will be able to root the phone on the Verizon network.
I saw the thread about the OEM bootloader, and I suspect that you would need to have that in order to root.
Could someone confirm, can the G6 be rooted?
If Verizon prevents this, I will switch to another phone vendor.
Thanks, in Advanced
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It can't be rooted atm and may not have root at all since verizon usually locks their bootloaders.
People are hunting for exploits, nothing reported in public yet.
Any updates on this?
Any updates?
I keep reading about lg g6 unlocked phones being able to achieve root access. Can a verizon g6 be unlocked and then rooted? Also I have heard of achieving an adb set up through a pc and doing what you would do with root just through your pc and save it to your phone. I don't know much about either and am currently researching it. Any info would be nice.
So is there some way to use the ADB bridge to make changes to items that would normally only be accessible via root?
Honestly we need a better thread
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I keep reading about lg g6 unlocked phones being able to achieve root access. Can a verizon g6 be unlocked and then rooted? Also I have heard of achieving an adb set up through a pc and doing what you would do with root just through your pc and save it to your phone. I don't know much about either and am currently researching it. Any info would be nice.
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No all american carrier have locked bootloaders
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So is there some way to use the ADB bridge to make changes to items that would normally only be accessible via root?
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The one thing I've installed is BK Package Disabler, which lets you disable bloatware. You have to wipe out all accounts on your g6, then install BK, then re-delete your Google account, then run an adb command to allow BK Device Admin.
Best I can tell it is honestly disabling a lot of the bundled junk. It has a pretty clean user interface, touch any item and it'll bring up an option to Google it.
Please tell me I'm wrong... no root for the VZW G6??? My VZW S7 has root. Do all of the exploits require an unlocked bootloader (yes, VZW will never let that happen)?
I believe the US unlocked version US997 works on Verizon and is bootloader unlocked correct? If OP is concerned about rooting, just buy the unlocked version from lg instead of buying from Verizon.
just looked at Ebay unlocked 260
TNX. I gave up on the idea altogether.
I have the unhappy feeling that sooner or later rooting, at least for phones usable in the US (CDMA), is going to be almost completely locked out. Bastards!
Good Day. My mom got me an LG V30 from Korea. today my phone got an security update and as soon as I updating my phone, i found out that my Lg v30 have an TWRP imstall and dont let me update my phone. im not so good with phone and I dont want my phone be broken if I do anything :'( please help how can I remove twrp amd have a stock phone.
Jhei2628 said:
Good Day. My mom got me an LG V30 from Korea. today my phone got an security update and as soon as I updating my phone, i found out that my Lg v30 have an TWRP imstall and dont let me update my phone. im not so good with phone and I dont want my phone be broken if I do anything :'( please help how can I remove twrp amd have a stock phone.
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You can flash stock rom by using lg up and kdz. Make sure you use the correct kdz file for it.
Keep in mind, KDZ flash will erase your data, so be aware of that.
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You can flash stock rom by using lg up and kdz. Make sure you use the correct kdz file for it.
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i dont have an pc for me to do that ..
is there a way that i can use twrp and install a recovery so that it will be replace by stock?
We need exact phone model and firmware currently (settings, system, about phone, software info, software version)--mine is us99820h
Jhei2628 said:
is there a way that i can use twrp and install a recovery so that it will be replace by stock?
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Nope. I don't think so.
Jhei2628 said:
is there a way that i can use twrp and install a recovery so that it will be replace by stock?
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Yep. If you can get some kind soul on here to extract the stock recovery and turn it into a flashable zip, then you can download it, boot to TWRP, flash it, and viola -- stock recovery.
It doesn't matter what model recovery is from -- they are all the same with the EXCEPTION of the H932. If you have an H932, you must use the H932 recovery. You won't brick your phone, but you will be flashing a KDZ if you ever want to take OTAs again. Also, if you don't have an H932, do not use the H932 recovery -- same outcome.
EDIT: if your phone is rooted, you will not be able to take OTAs (the hash check will fail). So, if it is rooted, you need to unroot it (install Magisk manager) before flashing the stock recovery and taking OTAs.
-- Brian
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Nope. I don't think so.
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sad to hear that
runningnak3d said:
Yep. If you can get some kind soul on here to extract the stock recovery and turn it into a flashable zip, then you can download it, boot to TWRP, flash it, and viola -- stock recovery.
It doesn't matter what model recovery is from -- they are all the same with the EXCEPTION of the H932. If you have an H932, you must use the H932 recovery. You won't brick your phone, but you will be flashing a KDZ if you ever want to take OTAs again. Also, if you don't have an H932, do not use the H932 recovery -- same outcome.
EDIT: if your phone is rooted, you will not be able to take OTAs (the hash check will fail). So, if it is rooted, you need to unroot it (install Magisk manager) before flashing the stock recovery and taking OTAs.
-- Brian
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hoping someone here would do that. my lg v30 model is LGM V300K. and my phone is not rooted. i just want clean and stock phone.
Jhei2628 said:
hoping someone here would do that. my lg v30 model is LGM V300K. and my phone is not rooted. i just want clean and stock phone.
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Ironic you wish to remove TWRP from your phone when for several months that's what we would have given large sums of money to have. Finally in May 2018, the WTF exploit allowed us to do that. You can root your phone, since you have TWRP and install recent TWRP-flashable zip based on stock firmware.
But if you wish to return for full stock without TWRP custom recovery, you will need to use LGUP to flash stock KDZ. And yes that requires a PC.
ChazzMatt said:
Ironic you wish to remove TWRP from your phone when for several months that's what we would have given large sums of money to have. Finally in May 2018, the WTF exploit allowed us to do that. You can root your phone, since you have TWRP and install recent TWRP-flashable zip based on stock firmware.
But if you wish to return for full stock without TWRP custom recovery, you will need to use LGUP to flash stock KDZ. And yes that requires a PC.
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may I ask if all the roms here in this forum for lg v30 can be installed to my phone? because mine is LG V30 LGM-V300k.
Jhei2628 said:
may I ask if all the roms here in this forum for lg v30 can be installed to my phone? because mine is LG V30 LGM-V300k.
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I'll have to let one of the Korean users answer that. I'm not an expert on the Korean models. They have to do extra step to get TWRP, root and get radio back. So if your phone works and has TWRP then at over point in was rooted with Magisk.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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I'll have to let one of the Korean users answer that. I'm not an expert on the Korean models. They have to do extra step to get TWRP, root and get radio back. So if your phone works and has TWRP then at over point in was rooted with Magisk.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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awww.
ChazzMatt said:
I'll have to let one of the Korean users answer that. I'm not an expert on the Korean models. They have to do extra step to get TWRP, root and get radio back. So if your phone works and has TWRP then at over point in was rooted with Magisk.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Please let me know if the roms here will work with korean variant lg v30.
Jhei2628 said:
Please let me know if the roms here will work with korean variant lg v30.
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If you are going to keep TWRP then I won't bother, but if you want to go back to stock let me know and it just so happens I have that KDZ sitting in my archives so I don't even need to wait 40 years for lg-firmwares.com to download
Just ping me and I can make you a flashable zip that will take your phone back to stock without having to flash a KDZ.
Again, I am not going to bother right now since it sounds like you may actually want to keep your phone as is.
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
If you are going to keep TWRP then I won't bother, but if you want to go back to stock let me know and it just so happens I have that KDZ sitting in my archives so I don't even need to wait 40 years for lg-firmwares.com to download
Just ping me and I can make you a flashable zip that will take your phone back to stock without having to flash a KDZ.
Again, I am not going to bother right now since it sounds like you may actually want to keep your phone as is.
-- Brian
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i still want a clean and stock phone and hearing that to someone makes me happy ^^ thank you so much good sir!
waiting for good sir to make the flashable file for us korean variant lg v30 users
can I ask if i can make a kdz file to a zip file so that i can flash it on twrp? and how if i can.
Jhei2628 said:
waiting for good sir to make the flashable file for us korean variant lg v30 users
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Sorry -- I just haven't had the time -- and it doesn't even take that long. I have a few minutes right now, let me see if I can throw something together for you.
Keep in mind, that I have no way of testing it. It won't brick your phone, but I might have a typo and it will just fail (I have a tendency to have typos ;P ).
If that happens, you will just have to tell me where it is failing, and I will fix it. *crosses fingers that I have no typos*
EDIT: I am not going to do something half assed. I am grabbing the latest firmware available on lg-firmwares (V300K21r) and going to make a FULL zip.
As long as you don't wipe data, even if you are on a lower version, you should be able to flash it and keep your data. I will flash all the partitions that usually get flashed when using a KDZ.
I should have it up in about an hour.....
EDIT2: It is up -- https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=286970
Download and flash that in TWRP. Wipe cache / dalvik. Reboot and you will be fully stock. Again, you should only lose your data if you factory reset or wipe / format data.
Enjoy,
-- Brian
Anyone using a Custom Rom on LG V20 & V30 with Root or at least GCAM with or without
So I have a T-mobile LG V20 H918 & H930 that are both still on stock 7.0 Android nougat. I'm trying but to decide if I should root and put a custom Rom on them or at least do GCAM while updating them to the latest Stock ROM? I don't really do much but use them for the usual call,text & pictures.
I do do lots of multi tasking tho and need good battery life with speed/performance. I also like most of the stock things that LG offers such as IR remote on the V20, Second Screen & Floating window on V30. I also use the LG Screen writing stuff and other goodies quite a bit. Question is do I do anything or upgrade to all stock? Please give me your best suggestions? My LG V30 is used in good condition and V20 is mint in box use it maybe once a month or so?
1 Peter 2:16*New Living Translation (NLT)
16*For you are free, yet you are God’s slaves, so don’t use your freedom as an excuse to do evil.
New Living Translation*(NLT)
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I had an H932, and I can't think of any reason not to update it to latest Oreo (20s). I know that there is a thing among V20 users to stay on Nougat, but it definitely doesn't apply to V30. Latest Oreo has been great on V30, I believe all models. And it's easy to roll back to Nougat if you don't like it.
Pie on V30 is more debatable: Some users report problems, while others are fine.
I never updated my H932 to Pie (stayed on Oreo 20s). But my wife did, and she hasn't had any problems.
My H932 died, and I bought two US998 V30+ on eBay to replace it (one as a backup and DAP). Both arrived with Pie, and both work perfectly. I did roll back my primary phone to Oreo because an app I use doesn't run on Pie. So I can compare them directly. And while there are pros and cons to both, I probably prefer Pie by just a bit.
But Oreo vs Nougat? Not even a debate
Edit: Oh and then about root: If you think you want to root, then do it while still on Nougat 10d. Otherwise you'll have to temporarily roll back to 10d later to root. My H932 was rooted, and so is my main US998 (the one on Oreo). But I don't really need it for anything, it's just to have the flexibility. To update past Pie, you'll need root and a custom ROM.
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So I have a T-mobile LG V20 H918 & H930 that are both still on stock 7.0 Android nougat. I'm trying but to decide if I should root and put a custom Rom on them or at least do GCAM while updating them to the latest Stock ROM? I don't really do much but use them for the usual call,text & pictures.
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1) In 4 attempts, this is the only correct place you posted these questions. Q&A section.
2) Your T-Mobile V30 is NOT an "H930". Trust me on that.
3) Late 2017 V30 is much better than 2016 V20.
LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo (with root to enable LG libs)
* FM Radio
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root (all variants)
* no notch
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Reiterating some of what @TheDannemand said...
Latter stock Oreo is far superior to stock Nougat. Stability, improved and even extra stock Camera features, DTS Surround Sound stereo (needs root to enable that stock firmware feature), etc. Many of those came in last few Oreo releases and are not present in Nougat.
But for T-Mobile H932 you need to temporarily be on Nougat to install TWRP and root. That's where the exploit was found. THEN you can update to newer, better firmware, via TWRP-flashable zip (i.e. stock ROM). Whether you then stay on stock rooted newer firmware (like last Oreo or even Pie) or install an LOS-16 custom ROM, that's your choice.
Read all of post #1 (rooting) and #2 (FAQ):
ROOT Your V30 and Custom ROMs FAQ
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
In post #2, especially read the parts about T-Mobile H932 -- Questions 1 and 4.
Your right it is H932, Also do certain apps not behave right with Root such as Snapchat? Because I plan to give this phone to my 14 yo son in a few days. I just bought a LG V60 last night & waiting for it to ship.
He says he is worried of I root it that Snapchat won't work. Thanks for all your help.
ChazzMatt said:
1) In 4 attempts, this is the only correct place you posted these questions. Q&A section.
2) Your T-Mobile V30 is NOT an "H930". Trust me on that.
3) Late 2017 V30 is much better than 2016 V20.
LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo (with root to enable LG libs)
* FM Radio
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root (all variants)
* no notch
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Reiterating some of what @TheDannemand said...
Latter stock Oreo is far superior to stock Nougat. Stability, improved and even extra stock Camera features, DTS Surround Sound stereo (needs root to enable that stock firmware feature), etc. Many of those came in last few Oreo releases and are not present in Nougat.
But for T-Mobile H932 you need to temporarily be on Nougat to install TWRP and root. That's where the exploit was found. THEN you can update to newer, better firmware, via TWRP-flashable zip (i.e. stock ROM). Whether you then stay on stock rooted newer firmware (like last Oreo or even Pie) or install an LOS-16 custom ROM, that's your choice.
Read all of post #1 (rooting) and #2 (FAQ):
ROOT Your V30 and Custom ROMs FAQ
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
In post #2, especially read the parts about T-Mobile H932 -- Questions 1 and 4.
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QkTreasures said:
Your right it is H932, Also do certain apps not behave right with Root such as Snapchat? Because I plan to give this phone to my 14 yo son in a few days. I just bought a LG V60 last night & waiting for it to ship.
He says he is worried of I root it that Snapchat won't work. Thanks for all your help.
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Can't answer about Snapchat, as I don't use it -- but he may be thinking about apps (Pokemon, some banking apps) which don't work when then sense bootloader is unlocked, whether you have actual root or not.
Simple solution is to use Magisk Hide, which cloaks your bootloader/root condition from nosy apps. It's part of the Magisk Manager rooting module. You choose which apps you want to remain blind.
This still works on older phones like V30 but I understand Google is defeating it on newer phones.
If you decide not to bootloader unlock and root, you still should update to last Oreo KDZ or the only Pie KDZ.
I'd say just don't root unless you have a use or need for it, and if you have concerns about it affecting certain apps. (Magisk Hide works wonders to conceal root, but I don't believe it can conceal an unlocked bootloader. I could be wrong.)
Rooting is more involved and risky on H932 than other V30 models, so there's that too.
You can always go back and root later. One of the amazing things about V30 is that LG never triggered Anti-Rollback (ARB). So even if you don't root now, you can do it later.
It is great to have the freedom to BE ABLE to root if and when you need it. But stock ROM is pretty great on V30 as far as performance and battery life. There are a few system apps to disable (particularly on H932) but that can be done without root.
One of the greatest benefits of rooting is TWRP backups. LG's built-in backup is a pretty good alternative, including backup of app data and many system settings, although not all settings as with TWRP backup.
Then there's the DTS-X audio effects and equalizer, which I don't personally care for, but which many people like. (I prefer bit-perfect rendering by the Quad DAC. For those who want EQ, UAPP has a well regarded one as in-app purchase, which doesn't require root.)
Rooting while you are still on Nougat will indeed save some time later. But temporarily rolling back to Nougat is only a brief step, and the simplest in the entire root procedure for H932.
TheDannemand said:
(Magisk Hide works wonders to conceal root, but I don't believe it can conceal an unlocked bootloader. I could be wrong.).
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Magisk can hide unlocked bootloader. Some people had unlocked bootloader but for some strange reason didn't want "root", but Safety net still assumed they were rooted since they have unlocked bootloader. The solution was to go ahead and root with Magisk to hide unlocked bootloader -- or relock bootloader. Don't go halfway.
ChazzMatt said:
Magisk can hide unlocked bootloader. Some people had unlocked bootloader but for some strange reason didn't want "root", but Safety net still assumed they were rooted since they have unlocked bootloader. The solution was to go ahead and root with Magisk to hide unlocked bootloader -- or relock bootloader. Don't go halfway.
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Very cool. I didn't know Magisk could do that. It really is a remarkable platform and tool.
And yes, that's a good reason not to go halfway, among several.
The only scenario I can think of where unlocking bootloader without actually rooting might make sense, is if a user has just performed a Factory Reset (or got a new phone) and know they want to root someday later; just not now, for whatever reason. Unlocking the bootloader now would then avoid a data wipe later. OK, they would still need a data wipe later in TWRP, but at least they'll have a chance to backup first. This is admittedly a bit hypothetical. But an interesting thought exercise :laugh:
TheDannemand said:
Very cool. I didn't know Magisk could do that. It really is a remarkable platform and tool.
And yes, that's a good reason not to go halfway, among several.
The only scenario I can think of where unlocking bootloader without actually rooting might make sense, is if a user has just performed a Factory Reset (or got a new phone) and know they want to root someday later; just not now, for whatever reason. Unlocking the bootloader now would then avoid a data wipe later. OK, they would still need a data wipe later in TWRP, but at least they'll have a chance to backup first. This is admittedly a bit hypothetical. But an interesting thought exercise :laugh:
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Yeah, there were a couple of scenarios of unlocked bootloader but not root. In each case, the people seems to have been brainwashed that "root" was potentially evil and they didn't understand it's just like being admin of your own PC vs using your employer's computer that you don't own. Today's smartphones are merely powerful handheld computers which can also make phone calls. Yes, I will be admin of my own computer if possible.
These were the most common situations discussed:
1) Bootloader unlock, install TWRP, root on stock firmware to make changes like enable DTS 3D Surround Sound, permanently debloat "unnecessary" files (almost never a good idea with this particular phone), then quickly remove the powerful, "evil" root before it morally corrupts the phone. But keep the changes it allowed.
2) Bootloader unlock, install TWRP, root to install some magical custom ROM with more features and options. Then quickly remove the powerful, "evil" root. But keep the custom ROM because it was "better" than stock OS. I pointed out that without root, they couldn't make and restore TWRP backups -- thus negating one of the reasons for having custom recovery. Some even asked if they could go back to useless stock recovery, maybe re-lock bootloader but still keep the custom ROM.
Every time I tried to question why they didn't want to keep root, they would say they just didn't but were adamant they did NOT want active root on their phones. But wouldn't explain further. Like they didn't understand having ROOT is a mental philosophy, not a weapon. You will always be RENTING your phone, not OWNING your phone unless you are the admin. Unless you have root.
And in each one of those cases, they would still have unlocked bootloader -- NOT pass Safety Net -- and be accused of having root, while not actually having it. There are some apps that will penalize you if they think you are rooted. Do you own your phone or do they? So you have to hide the root with Magisk.
Having root to do something, then giving it up is like driving a nice car to a lakeside picnic, getting out and flinging the keys into the water. What? You aren't going to want to go home? Or somewhere else at any point in time? Grocery store, home, work... You need to keep those keys.
I pointed out many apps like Titanium Backup require root privileges. I have an Auto Restart app that reboots my phone daily right before I wake up, so I have a fresh phone. Requires root privileges. So, does ClockSync, Recovery Reboot, Root Explorer, Shortcut Master, Wifi Password Viewer, Build Prop Editor, Advanced Power Menu... Root is a awesome tool, not an evil weapon.
When our phones become too locked down I can't root my phone, I will be very sad. Because I will no longer really own my phone.
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When our phones become too locked down I can't root my phone, I will be very sad. Because I will no longer really own my phone.
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Good points there. As always!
I agree about the ability to root. I'll go a step further and argue (as I have before somewhere on XDA) that root should be an official AOSP feature from Google, to be toggled in fastboot. It would make our phones MORE safe, NOT less, since the dev community would have a shared interest in security and in finding and closing vulnerabilities, instead of hoarding them. We could all spend our time constructively instead of having to defeat security measures and jumping hoops to avoid the pitfalls created by OEMs and carriers.
The real risk are apps that gain root access stealthily (which they'll do regardless of whether you are rooted) not ones that request it formally (triggering a prompt and must be granted by the user).
That said, knowing that I CAN root when I want, is enough to satisfy my urge for freedom. Just like I don't run everything as Administrator on my PC, only occasionally when I need elevated permissions.
So I am comfortable advising people NOT to root until they actually need it. Which may be never: On earlier Android phones, we needed custom ROMs or Exposed modules to fill in big gaps in the OS. V30 stock Oreo and Pie are very complete and efficient ROMs. Sure, I recommend a few tweaks and removing a few trackers and bloatware. But those can be done either with or without root.
So while my main V30 is indeed rooted, I actually don't use it for anything
TheDannemand said:
So I am comfortable advising people NOT to root until they actually need it. Which may be never: On earlier Android phones, we needed custom ROMs or Exposed modules to fill in big gaps in the OS. V30 stock Oreo and Pie are very complete and efficient ROMs. Sure, I recommend a few tweaks and removing a few trackers and bloatware. But those can be done either with or without root.
So while my main V30 is indeed rooted, I actually don't use it for anything
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Only my V30 phone is rooted. My wife's, mother's, sister's, other family and friends V30/V30+ (10 or 11 total) are not.
I used to do that with other phones for people, even installing Custom ROMs. But I don't have time to maintain/update all those.
So, only mine. I decided they don't "need" it. But I do.
ChazzMatt said:
Can't answer about Snapchat, as I don't use it -- but he may be thinking about apps (Pokemon, some banking apps) which don't work when then sense bootloader is unlocked, whether you have actual root or not.
Simple solution is to use Magisk Hide, which cloaks your bootloader/root condition from nosy apps. It's part of the Magisk Manager rooting module. You choose which apps you want to remain blind.
This still works on older phones like V30 but I understand Google is defeating it on newer phones.
If you decide not to bootloader unlock and root, you still should update to last Oreo KDZ or the only Pie KDZ.
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Can I just do a over the air update on the v 30?
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QkTreasures said:
Can I just do a over the air update on the v 30?
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Yes. I just assumed since you were still on inferior Nougat -- vs last Oreo or Pie, that something was preventing your OTA updates from working right.
In which case you would need LG Bridge or LGUP to update firmware.
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Yes. I just assumed since you were still on inferior Nougat -- vs last Oreo or Pie, that something was preventing your OTA updates from working right.
In which case you would need LG Bridge or LGUP to update firmware.
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Ok well I'll try OTA first
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