Hi all,
I'm new here and as green as it gets with all forms of computing.
I recently used "One Click Root" (which turned out to be 5000 clicks, customer support and a bit of money) to root my Galaxy S6 and got them to install LineageOS on it as well, and I really like it.
My motivation was that I am old and grumpy, and hated Google pestering/prompting me continuously on a device I paid for outright. I strongly dislike their tactics, and preferred to go this way and update my now unsupported device, rather than buy a new one and have them all over me possibly even more.
I then went on to find that rooting (which has an unfortunate double meaning in my native Australian slang) is quite the hobby, and I'm interested in having a dabble just for the hell of it. So I have bought a clean second hand Nexus 5X, which is supposedly the "noob friendly" place to start.
It's not like I haven't studied every post and article, and I've tried a couple of packages, but have gone almost nowhere with it. I've managed to get the bootloader unlocked via the Nexus Root Toolkit, and it seems I've got TWRP on there as well, but an older version. I don't know if it's rooted, but the NRT root phase seemed to fail each time, so probably not.
I am hoping some kind soul would take me under their wing and really walk me through this in absolute basics of computing, let alone rooting. I would very much appreciate it, as I'm very interested in learning this/something new.
It may well test your patience... To put it into perspective, I've only just learned how to open a command window etc. I'm not joking about step by step, I'll need to be told were to put drivers when I download them, the lot. There is a possibility I'm too computer illiterate for this forum, but if someone will try to help me through I'll pay attention and be patient.
I would just like to root the phone, and install LineageOS. On my S6 I have used FDroid/Yalp to install the few apps I use.
Thank you in advance for anyone who would like to help me out.
Didn't feel a lot of love there, but I guess there was call for a collective sigh with another noob asking to be walked with hand held through the process, step by step.
Good news for me is that I actually did it, and my Nexus 5X is now running LineageOS 15.1, with no gapps installed at all.
I did try it with gapps, but the "Big G" just got straight up to their old tricks, demanding I do this and that, so I reinstalled without it. I must say the phone works really slickly with this ROM, and it's just such a cleaner screen. I really like it. I'm also surprised at what a good device the 5X is, considering I'd never heard of one before and thought it was all about Samsung Galaxy's.
I'm 50yo and not a huge apps person, and at this stage I'm only running F-Droid/Yalp, Spotify, AccuBattery, Protonmail and Line. Interestingly they all work without gapps on my S6/LOS 14.1, but Line keeps stopping on my Nexus 5X running LOS 15.1.
I'm feeling all keen now, and am scouting around for a few more cheap devices to play with.
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So I've had this phone for a while now and I'm fairly happy with it. Other than the fact it acts a bit weird with the college wifi. I'm pretty sure we didn't buy any warranty for it, so whatever it might of had when I got it about a year ago is probably about to expire. Anyway, I'm knew to the rooting scene and I would like to know if it would be worth it for me personally to root my phone. It is a Samsung Galaxy S4 from Verizon, it says the model number is SCH-I545 and is running on version 5.0.1. At first I kind of just wanted to root the phone just to play modded games on it, stuff without leaderboards mostly. But then I saw somewhere that you could extend the battery life with a different kernel or something, and that is definitely something I could use. So... any words of advice or suggestions for me? I appreciate it.
I would say rooting is worth it especially on an older phone. Rooting is really just getting access to the root directory of the phone. If you want to run custom firmware I recommend this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3132555
Our s4 has a locked bootloader so our options are a little limited but I like this devs work. Remember to do a lot of reading first and welcome to the community!
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So I've had this phone for a while now and I'm fairly happy with it. Other than the fact it acts a bit weird with the college wifi. I'm pretty sure we didn't buy any warranty for it, so whatever it might of had when I got it about a year ago is probably about to expire. Anyway, I'm knew to the rooting scene and I would like to know if it would be worth it for me personally to root my phone. It is a Samsung Galaxy S4 from Verizon, it says the model number is SCH-I545 and is running on version 5.0.1. At first I kind of just wanted to root the phone just to play modded games on it, stuff without leaderboards mostly. But then I saw somewhere that you could extend the battery life with a different kernel or something, and that is definitely something I could use. So... any words of advice or suggestions for me? I appreciate it.
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I'm new as well to rooting... although in the PC world, I've always been an admin. I think that the biggest reason to root is to have control of what you've bought! Deleting the apps you don't want, and getting the updates. I understand that via rooting you can overclock your CPU (which for gaming would probably be a good thing).
I haven't had great luck in a successful root for my Verizon S4 but I'll keep trying. So much of a different 'language' of what you're doing over a PC world. Just takes time.
Best of luck!
Due to a little frustration I decided to create a whole thread for this.
I suck at computers and I have no idea what I am doing so I ended up bricking my device lmao.
In theory, the thought of rooting your device, and installing a custom OS sounds great! (Like communism) but when put in practice never really works out. The reason for that (I think) is because there are so many different versions, models, and brands. I end up spending all my time trying to refine my search to the right software and versions, and then when I do, I am stuck with some stupid site like (every damn rom site) with a 20kb/s download rate, and a page full of ads! Why? Because they are storing like 2 billion different 2GB roms. In my opinion paying for faster download speed from these websites is ridiculous. I don't even know why they offer (you would have to be stupid(like me)).
(tl;dr: Android SUCKS)
So, now to my actual question...
With the release of the Librem 5 phone, there really is not going to be a point to rooting phones anymore, because google with already be decimated from it... But that comes out in April/May and I still need a phone in the meantime.
So.. Are there any cheap phones ($500+/-), that are not a pain in the ass to root? And one that the developers actually care about to actively develop. All I wan't is a phone I can install stock android with root, and that can be installed without google or gapps. Also I live in Canada, which is another reason why it's a pain in the ass to find a decent phone because all our carriers deadbolt their firmware, and bootloaders like their storing the coordinates to some secret location with a pot of gold.
starscrpt said:
Due to a little frustration I decided to create a whole thread for this.
I suck at computers and I have no idea what I am doing so I ended up bricking my device lmao.
In theory, the thought of rooting your device, and installing a custom OS sounds great! (Like communism) but when put in practice never really works out. The reason for that (I think) is because there are so many different versions, models, and brands. I end up spending all my time trying to refine my search to the right software and versions, and then when I do, I am stuck with some stupid site like (every damn rom site) with a 20kb/s download rate, and a page full of ads! Why? Because they are storing like 2 billion different 2GB roms. In my opinion paying for faster download speed from these websites is ridiculous. I don't even know why they offer (you would have to be stupid(like me)).
(tl;dr: Android SUCKS)
So, now to my actual question...
With the release of the Librem 5 phone, there really is not going to be a point to rooting phones anymore, because google with already be decimated from it... But that comes out in April/May and I still need a phone in the meantime.
So.. Are there any cheap phones ($500+/-), that are not a pain in the ass to root? And one that the developers actually care about to actively develop. All I wan't is a phone I can install stock android with root, and that can be installed without google or gapps. Also I live in Canada, which is another reason why it's a pain in the ass to find a decent phone because all our carriers deadbolt their firmware, and bootloaders like their storing the coordinates to some secret location with a pot of gold.
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Try Mediatek phones, they are cheap, easy to unlock and root.
However, you will have to search whether they have a custom ROM since Mediatek never releases their source.
HIT THANKS IF FOUND USEFUL
I'm at a bit of a stand still at this point. I first bought a Nexus 5x, but that ended up with dead pixels within a week. 5x's are so old now, I just don't know which merchants I can trust buying them from. I don't really want a phone that's going to last only a month or two when buying it supposedly new. It said new, but I'm more inclined to think used and old and sort of refurbished is more accurate. I mean, it looked new, but so does every barely refurbished breaks down in a month product.
So, I thought I'd get the Motorola Moto G7. It's a new phone. LineageOS has a custom rom for it. It's within my price range. It has better hardware than the Nexus 5x. I had my mind made up and everything, but now I'm reading that it may be more hassle than it's worth because as far as I can tell Motorola doesn't even provide stock roms for G7. I was also reading in some forum that Motorola has their own fastboot version for their phones? Judging by my adventure with the Nexus 5x, and it was a fun adventure, I may need to flash the appropriate stock rom before I can even install LineageOS to the G7. Also, Motorola likes to threaten that the warranty is nullified by unlocking the bootloader. So, now I'm thinking why do I want to spend $200 on a maybe might work, maybe might not be able to get my money back.
That was my first thing, LineageOS on the Nexus 5x. I'm not stuck on LineageOS, by the way. I'm willing to install anything else pretty much. LineageOS was just the most simple one, so I figured it was a good learning tool for me to try first.
So now, I don't know what to do.
Can you all give me some "yeah, this phone is great for custom rom type things" type of list or something?
My ideal is $0 to around $200, but if I need to go for that $400+ range to get phones that are more or less great for custom roms type of stuff, then I am willing to go up there.
So, when I was having this adventure with the Nexus 5x, I discovered, and correct me if I'm wrong, that Nexus 5x must be one of the best smartphones for custom roms things. Google provides the stock roms and simple fastboot flashing commands for any mistakes you make, and the phone just never really gave me problems when I was trying to learn how to do everything. Really. the tutorials were much worse than the phone itself. It was really really simple, and the tutorials all make it look really really hard. Of course some of that was inaccurate information, which again, with the 5x it wasn't a difficult matter to figure out that a tutorial is saying something inaccurate.
I realize every phone will have its own level of difficulty and learning curve. I'm looking for smart phones that do in fact work that most who do this stuff seem to like using. I will be buying the carrier-unlocked version of whichever phone I buy, as those seem to be the ones that manufacturers let us unlock the bootloader of.
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**DEVICE SUGGESTION THREAD** -- Not sure what device to buy? Ask here! by KidCarter93
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Like, why have to choose between Ubuntu or Android, when TWRP-based recoveries, like Safestrap for example, come with ROM Slots?
because its probably very hard to make a custom phone, best to first see if theres a market for it and try to even out, let alone make profit... , is it worth the effort and money invested?
Once they succeed, then they can be more creative and flexible with what can be offered.... who knows, its possible 90% of users on this forum are just leeches who demand things and never actually give back, im hoping thats incorrect.
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Like, why have to choose between Ubuntu or Android, when TWRP-based recoveries, like Safestrap for example, come with ROM Slots?
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I can't gurantee anything but maybe one will come (for the regular Pro 1 but as they are almost the same...)
Dual boot is being worked on.
Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw4B1H4h39I&ab_channel=LinuxForEveryone
Source of the video:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pro1-x-smartphone-functionality-choice-control/x/25022341#/
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Dual boot is being worked on.
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I think it should be possible to dual boot any A/B device as long as the userdata can be a polyglot.
sonhy said:
because its probably very hard to make a custom phone, best to first see if theres a market for it and try to even out, let alone make profit... , is it worth the effort and money invested?
Once they succeed, then they can be more creative and flexible with what can be offered.... who knows, its possible 90% of users on this forum are just leeches who demand things and never actually give back, im hoping thats incorrect.
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10 odd years ago, I bought my first Android phone. It was an HTC Evo. I discovered xda-developers, found all the CyanogenMOD ROMs, etc. for that Evo, and never looked back. In 2012/13, I 'upgraded' to a Samsung S4 and didn't bother to root it, and I've 'upgraded' hardware many times since then. There was always that; 'Why am I doing this?!?' thought, in the back of my mind...but, I needed a phone to get the job done.
So, here we are in 2020, I have a Samsung S9 that works, that I bought a little over 2 years ago, but...it has Android 10, with the Samsung embellishments, but won't see anything other than security updates going forward. About this time, 10 years ago, I bought an Asus laptop. I don't recall which version of M$ Windows was installed (according to the sticker, it was Windows 7 Home), but that's irrelevant because; A) Whichever version was installed is now obsolete, B) The day after I brought it home, it was running Gentoo Linux. This got me to wondering WHY I couldn't have a cellphone that 'just works' for more than 2.5-3 years, AND was 'current!'
I was all set to pull the trigger on a Pixel 5, through my carrier, reasoning that it was the 'flagship' of the Google line and, despite the ho-hum specs, would be supported longer than the <insert OEM here> phone. Then the ALL About ANDROID podcast (twit.tv) mentioned the Pro1-X phone in TWO consecutive podcasts! That piqued my interest! As of yesterday, I ordered a Pro1-X, with the LineageOS. This is MY way of giving back to those developers that provided me with the ROMS that I downloaded, installed, and used years ago...
ALL of my computers run a version of *nix! Hopefully, I'll be just as happy with my Pro1-X (I may upgrade to the Debian offering, if available) when the phone arrives! :fingers-crossed:
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10 odd years ago, I bought my first Android phone. It was an HTC Evo. I discovered xda-developers, found all the CyanogenMOD ROMs, etc. for that Evo, and never looked back. In 2012/13, I 'upgraded' to a Samsung S4 and didn't bother to root it, and I've 'upgraded' hardware many times since then. There was always that; 'Why am I doing this?!?' thought, in the back of my mind...but, I needed a phone to get the job done.
So, here we are in 2020, I have a Samsung S9 that works, that I bought a little over 2 years ago, but...it has Android 10, with the Samsung embellishments, but won't see anything other than security updates going forward. About this time, 10 years ago, I bought an Asus laptop. I don't recall which version of M$ Windows was installed (according to the sticker, it was Windows 7 Home), but that's irrelevant because; A) Whichever version was installed is now obsolete, B) The day after I brought it home, it was running Gentoo Linux. This got me to wondering WHY I couldn't have a cellphone that 'just works' for more than 2.5-3 years, AND was 'current!'
I was all set to pull the trigger on a Pixel 5, through my carrier, reasoning that it was the 'flagship' of the Google line and, despite the ho-hum specs, would be supported longer than the <insert OEM here> phone. Then the ALL About ANDROID podcast (twit.tv) mentioned the Pro1-X phone in TWO consecutive podcasts! That piqued my interest! As of yesterday, I ordered a Pro1-X, with the LineageOS. This is MY way of giving back to those developers that provided me with the ROMS that I downloaded, installed, and used years ago...
ALL of my computers run a version of *nix! Hopefully, I'll be just as happy with my Pro1-X (I may upgrade to the Debian offering, if available) when the phone arrives! :fingers-crossed:
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Completely agree with the sentiment here. I purchased my Pro1-X (XDA edition) with the hopes that instead of chasing the next flagship every year, I will finally have a phone that I can optimize and update myself, and , more importantly, a phone that is secure and can run Ubuntu Touch.
Right. I'm sorry to have to post this up but I'm out of options and time.
Before I shell out £500+ on a new premium phone which I normally do every few years I thought I'd try and re use my old phone as I'm now old and hate spending money.
I've replaced some tired parts from my old g5 and it's looking good again.
It's running Android 8.0 which I believe was the last official update for it?
I'd like to get android 10 on it as I'm a big vanilla Google fan and my research led me to lineage18?
Read a few posts, installed ADB/fastboot on my Windows 10 laptop. Got lost, watched some videos, got confused and then frustrated and I'm now at the point where I advertise the phone on eBay and uninstall the stuff on my laptop and just buy a new phone.
The problem is I'm a 40 year old father with 2 babies and **** all time. It takes me ages to get my head round stuff and when I've only got 10 mins before one of them wakes in an evening I'm back to square one and even more pissed off I don't understand it.
Sorry for the sympathy hunting rant, but really would prefer to chuck someone some cash to get this done. The stubbornness in me wants to succeed though. So anyone who wants some £££ speak up. Anyone who can also link up specific instructions would also be appreciated. Remember, I don't understand jargon, abbreviations and I haven't used a pc properly in 5 years and where I was once pretty good at building my own gaming pc I'm now a full time consumer who needs spoon feeding instructions like a toddler (Apple iPhone user) because I'm so impatient.
One video I found which had the most detail in for setting up the install and then putting it on your phone assumed I'd done it before. Which should explain my problem better. I need my hand held, I need to be able to pause and repeat. Don't tell me to "open the command prompt" then move onto the next task because I'll spend 40 minutes googling how to do that. Heck I'd even consider allowing someone to remotely connect to my laptop to do it while I watch.
I hope this post isn't too pathetic, I really like this phone and have had it since it was released, but will understand if it seems too much work.
I really am looking forward to the day my kids are old enough to entertain themselves and I can think straight for more than 5 minutes at a time
Thanks in advance
@theblueflash you don't say which phone exactly you've got.
For H850 you can get unlock codes from LG easily.
I know (and did on three H850) how to unlock the bootloader (kind of BIOS like on PCs).
Without ADB and Fastboot you can't do it so you gotta find someone.
Mine is running now on Android 11.
I attach 2 files which are not up-to-date but describe very good what to do.
There is not more to do exept take a newer TWRP and (if root needed) Magisk instead of SuperSU.
But it will take longer than 5 minutes.