I own a Galaxy S9 plus about two month..
But I'm already very disappointed....
Below average camera (worse than Poco F1)..
No stable Pai update after 4 month(OnePlus 6, 6t, essential phone, mate 20, p20, mi 8, Poco f1, xperia xz 2 & a lot more already have pai)....
Now want to switch to OnePlus 6T...
I know I'll miss Dolby Atmos , the screen for sure..
If any one have any suggestions please help me..
First of all, if your phone camera is worse than Poco's camera, something is wrong.
Second, the only thing you will gain is speed. OnePlus is more responsive compared to our phone. But that's it.
Our S9+ can easily do +6h of SOT, has headphone jack, better screen, better build quality (although OPs also do a good job on this category), better camera, Samsung Experience is full of customization options (Oxygen OS is getting there too).
The only downside of a Samsung phone, in general, is the waiting time for the updates arrive. But that's not a deal breaker for me at least.
I would advise you to keep the S9+ for now and get the new OnePlus next year, with SD855.
I would vote for keeping the S9+ as well. I had the 6T before, but I had to send it back because it kept dropping the LTE connection to the tower by my house. Of course getting the newest Android versions is nice, but a lot of times there are bugs when you get them that soon anyway. Also the only thing I could think of that made Pie worth the wait was that you could replace the navbar with gestures. Other than that the S9+ feels more premium, and like you said you have Atmos, the wonderful screen, etc. The 6T was definitely snappy but lag does not seem to me to be an issue on the S9+.
Just keep the s9+. You'll get the android pie (pai?) update in january with a brand new interface and it'll make your device much faster and more responsive. It's not worth losing all the s9+ features to the 6t.
If you are just after speed. Enable Game mode in device maintenance. It will become at least 25% due to more aggressive governor settings.
On the camera, i agree with above comments. If it is worse than poco 8n quality. Something really wrong with either the settings or hardware. Try a factory reset.
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First of all, if your phone camera is worse than Poco's camera, something is wrong.
Second, the only thing you will gain is speed. OnePlus is more responsive compared to our phone. But that's it.
Our S9+ can easily do +6h of SOT, has headphone jack, better screen, better build quality (although OPs also do a good job on this category), better camera, Samsung Experience is full of customization options (Oxygen OS is getting there too).
The only downside of a Samsung phone, in general, is the waiting time for the updates arrive. But that's not a deal breaker for me at least.
I would advise you to keep the S9+ for now and get the new OnePlus next year, with SD855.
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6hrs SOT? Are you kidding?. S9+ in normal usage can't get past 3-3.5hrs. 6hrs is possible if you continuously watch videos and do nothing else. Otherwise it's a myth.
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6hrs SOT? Are you kidding?. S9+ in normal usage can't get past 3-3.5hrs. 6hrs is possible if you continuously watch videos and do nothing else. Otherwise it's a myth.
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Definitely not a myth, I can confirm that 6 hrs of SOT is indeed possible.
Look, if your camera is worse then poco you have problem with the devices or with the eyes
I bought that phone 3 weeks after it's came out and I'm totally happy with it, especially from the camera, so much that my sis ,parents and few friends saw the photos and videos and bought the plus version a mouth later and they still thank me for the right choise of device
as we all know, there is no perfect phone yet, the bad things that the s9/+ for my opinion have is the small battery and the annoying edges. the screen look fu**ing amazing but the edge are cause the expience from my pov. of course the slow updates but that is samsung, always was, they have big UI to upgrade every android new version, the most chinese companies have more clean android experience so less work on every build.
the 1+6t is amazing phone in good price, it's faster and smoother thanks for the clean UI and 8gb ram at some models, but the screen is not good as ours, our camera is better, I think also that the 1+6t has mono speaker so the sound is worse.
In fact, what you think to do is to transfer from premium amazign high quality device to good device, if you have in your pocket s7, or any old device the 1+6t is good choise, but here you downgrade yourself.
My advice is to compare your s9 photos with friend who have that phone too or here and see if your camera work properly, and if not go to the warranty.
sorry for poor english, I'm working on it :silly:
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Definitely not a myth, I can confirm that 6 hrs of SOT is indeed possible.
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Again I said 6hrs is possible if you watch only videos. For a normal usage person, 6hrs is not possible.
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Again I said 6hrs is possible if you watch only videos. For a normal usage person, 6hrs is not possible.
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2 days of use, see the apps that are used, videos watched only for 1 hour during that period. Oreo exynos btw.
And with stable Pie seeding as of yesterday, you know my answer - keep the s9+!
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6hrs SOT? Are you kidding?. S9+ in normal usage can't get past 3-3.5hrs. 6hrs is possible if you continuously watch videos and do nothing else. Otherwise it's a myth.
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Look man, I use my phone with Bluetooth enable 100% of the time because I use with a Gear S3.
Data is enabled for at least 8 hours when I'm working, like it was yesterday.
I use my phone mostly for web browsing, Facebook, watch videos and listen to music (online music).
I get 6h~7h SOT constantly
If your phone can't do at least 6h SOT on mixed usage, I suggest you to go to a Samsung Repair Center and check it out what's wrong with your phone.
Btw, mine is a Snapdragon G9650.
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6hrs SOT? Are you kidding?. S9+ in normal usage can't get past 3-3.5hrs. 6hrs is possible if you continuously watch videos and do nothing else. Otherwise it's a myth.
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What
It's very easy to do 6 hours-7 hours SOT on S9+
I don't know if your using a Exynos
Mine a snapdragon
But even with using mobile data for around 2-3 hours i can easily get 6 hours
I have set my screen resolution to WQHD+ too
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Again I said 6hrs is possible if you watch only videos. For a normal usage person, 6hrs is not possible.
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It's definitely possible. Maybe you need to replace your battery? I've attached some screenshots as proof.
I acually switched to a OP6T with a guy in my city and i got back to him after 2 days and would like to change back. As happy i was when i got it back he accepted the return again. Got my S9+ back and im happy. No notification LED on the 6T is a dealbreaker for me, i use it everyday on my S9+. I tested some apps that would replace the use of an Notification LED but it would not strike me enough. I read that people does simply not care about notification LED anymore beacuse the phone has an Ambient display, as silly verison of an always on display for me, like really the phone does not even have real always on display, only Ambient display. (tested rooting it and installing OP6s always on display ZIP, as it was the only one available and it is awful. OnePlus them self removed their Always on Display in a couple betas back, replacing it with Ambient display, stupid move. Worked perfectly on my old OP5 before it broke) No headphone jack is also a really bruh OnePlus, bragging on it a year ago when Apple removed it and now they did it. I have a pair of Bluetooth earphones but as the battery runs out i always switch to my Beats earphones, i KNOW that OnePlus provides a dongle with it but me not digging the red color at all and as it feels like it will break after one day of use of dragging it around. (as the cable is thin) I would still credit OnePlus for their operating system being much more nicer than Samsungs. (menys, app designs, all around simpler design in my opinion) The speed is also real and the performance/battery life is quite impressive compared to my S9+ as the price. Also dash charge! I wanted to switch to OP6T beacuse of the performance and battery life. Also me seeing the S9+ as an photograpy phone was not my intend in the beginning, but i must say when i take a photo(not often at all) it takes stunning pictures, both in lowlight and normal day use. I bought it when it came out as a new daily driver with speed and performance and was a bit disappointed with the speed/performance/battery and still is, but switching from it to an phone without an Notification LED and headphone jack i forgot how much i use them daily. Will keep my S9+ until it breaks a probably buy a OP6.
No way...u shud do it other way round...dumped my 6 and s9 plus is different league...
I have the 6T and my wife has the S9+. Her camera is way better than my 6T camera. Her S9+ has a much nicer screen. My 6T feels more responsive. Overall, I think the S9+ is a better phone, but the 6T is better value for the money. If you already have the S9+, I would stick with it.
Install package disabler and disable all the extra function you're not getting on OP 6T. Just as fast. With s9+, you're getting so much function than vanilla. It's the extra flavor that I like. But if you are into vanilla, then OP 6T is the way.
Personal note: I really love the motion photo.
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It's definitely possible. Maybe you need to replace your battery? I've attached some screenshots as proof.
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Mine is an exynos. I bought in July 2018 and since then I have never achieved even 5hrs.
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Look man, I use my phone with Bluetooth enable 100% of the time because I use with a Gear S3.
Data is enabled for at least 8 hours when I'm working, like it was yesterday.
I use my phone mostly for web browsing, Facebook, watch videos and listen to music (online music).
I get 6h~7h SOT constantly
If your phone can't do at least 6h SOT on mixed usage, I suggest you to go to a Samsung Repair Center and check it out what's wrong with your phone.
Btw, mine is a Snapdragon G9650.
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Mine is an exynos. Probably because of the CPU. Samsung cheated with exynos. I hope they scrap their exynos cpus
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Mine is an exynos. I bought in July 2018 and since then I have never achieved even 5hrs.
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Mine is an exynos. Probably because of the CPU. Samsung cheated with exynos. I hope they scrap their exynos cpus
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I have the exynos variant as well. Something may be wrong with your phone, try bringing it to a repair center and let them check it.
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I have the exynos variant as well. Something may be wrong with your phone, try bringing it to a repair center and let them check it.
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Previous day's SOT is 3.5hrs.
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I guess the title says it all. I'm interested in buying the Z Ultra (unlocked international) but I'm very concerned about the battery.
I HATE having to charge my phone in the middle of the day. If it has to happen once a week that's too often for me. What I currently do with my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 (which I use as a phone) is I charge it at night when I'm going to sleep. I never have to worry about the charge, even if I am using it constantly all day. If I use the device sparingly I can even stretch it out for two days.
Can this device come even close to that?
Will I have to keep a charger with me at all times?
I can accept a smaller battery than my current amazing performance. What I'm looking for is that most of the time, I can wait to charge my phone until I'm going to bed with average usage. Not constantly checking messages, emails, browser, etc.
Thanks for the answers guys!
hello,
i am also interested to buy the XZU but also worried like you about battery..
What i want to know. how would be the battery life in 1 or 2 years ?
I think we have to wait a few more month to get the best details
The answer is pretty clear. You can't compare the two. 7.7 has nearly 2x battery capacity (5100mAh vs 3000mAh) than ZU. Tab 7.7. It runs on 2 Cortex A9 processer which is slower and use much lesser power than the latest Snapdragon 800 chip.
I can only say battery if the 3G ZU is comparable to Samsung S4 LTE.
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The answer is pretty clear. You can't compare the two. 7.7 has nearly 2x battery capacity (5100mAh vs 3000mAh) than ZU. Tab 7.7. It runs on 2 Cortex A9 processer which is slower and use much lesser power than the latest Snapdragon 800 chip.
I can only say battery if the 3G ZU is comparable to Samsung S4 LTE.
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So do you mean it can barely get through a day? Rushing to charge it in the evening? Or fine till bedtime?
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So do you mean it can barely get through a day? Rushing to charge it in the evening? Or fine till bedtime?
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It all depends on user. How I use the device will be different from everyone else. But generally speaking you can go to the General Section and check the battery usage stats. Most people can last through a working day (ie leave home with 100% and survive until knock off and reach home).
avsquare said:
It all depends on user. How I use the device will be different from everyone else. But generally speaking you can go to the General Section and check the battery usage stats. Most people can last through a working day (ie leave home with 100% and survive until knock off and reach home).
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Thanks for that avsquare, I think that clears it up for me pretty much. Now the question is am I ready to go back to that old feeling of always being worried about my phone's charge...
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Thanks for that avsquare, I think that clears it up for me pretty much. Now the question is am I ready to go back to that old feeling of always being worried about my phone's charge...
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This is one of my biggest dilemma when I was considering the Z Ultra. To be frank, I hated phones without swappable batteries so I rarely buy such phones.
If you share the same concern, ask yourself if you can do with large powerbanks (I'm personally not really fond of the idea). Personally, if possible, I prefer a swappable battery - just change and ready to go.
If you dislike powerbanks, maybe you should wait for the Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
It's a matter of choice. If you like the phone,buy it. With some tweaks you can make it last a whole day.
I don't think I'll "just buy it". The phone looks beautiful & everything but battery life for me is very important. I have this problem with all phones these days. They can all be made just a tiny bit thicker and have a bigger battery that lasts for a day and a half or two days with a few hours each day of screen time. That way if you use the phone a little too much today, it'll still last till the end of the day.
If you work for Sony you can give them this feedback
All smartphones have this so called 'problem'. The battery just can't handle more than a day with average usage. The only thing remaining is to use apps to hibernate applications,CPU handling and other tweaks,of course,on a rooted phone.
Mr.AnakinSkywalker said:
All smartphones have this so called 'problem'. The battery just can't handle more than a day with average usage. The only thing remaining is to use apps to hibernate applications,CPU handling and other tweaks,of course,on a rooted phone.
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Sorry guys I'm not here to complain!!! I'm just asking about the phone and how it suits my preferences. Great battery life is a requirement for me and others who have posted in this thread. Tweaks might help, but I'm not interested in spending my time fiddling till I get it just right. I've also heard that a lot of Sony devices can have very long standby time which is great, but I also want long usage time.
For now I'll stick to my (admittedly crazy) way of using my tablet as a phone till someone makes a nice large screened phone (6+) with great (not average) battery life. There are smaller phones with great battery life, this however is a new size that I'm interested in (big but not toooo big) but my original requirement remains: great battery life.
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Sorry guys I'm not here to complain!!! I'm just asking about the phone and how it suits my preferences. Great battery life is a requirement for me and others who have posted in this thread. Tweaks might help, but I'm not interested in spending my time fiddling till I get it just right. I've also heard that a lot of Sony devices can have very long standby time which is great, but I also want long usage time.
For now I'll stick to my (admittedly crazy) way of using my tablet as a phone till someone makes a nice large screened phone (6+) with great (not average) battery life. There are smaller phones with great battery life, this however is a new size that I'm interested in (big but not toooo big) but my original requirement remains: great battery life.
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Try Huawei Ascend Mate, then. 6.1 inch. Of course, the core hardware of that one is not as shiny as the ZU.
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Try Huawei Ascend Mate, then. 6.1 inch. Of course, the core hardware of that one is not as shiny as the ZU.
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Not a bad choice, HD screen with 2 more A9 cores compared to his 7.7 tab with a whooping 4050mAh battery for a smartphone these days.
Still kinda an upgrade for him
Interesting... but not sure if it's available in my country. I'll see what I can find.
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Interesting... but not sure if it's available in my country. I'll see what I can find.
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Just remember that the Mate has a 720p display - stretched across 6.1 inches. It looks like Satan runs Huawei Now, i'm not sure if you care at all, but that would give me a heart attack.
LordManhattan said:
Just remember that the Mate has a 720p display - stretched across 6.1 inches. It looks like Satan runs Huawei Now, i'm not sure if you care at all, but that would give me a heart attack.
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Actually, it's not too bad. I've even used the Note 10.1 before which is a 720p stretched over 10.1'' screen
Honestly it isn't too bad considering the viewing distance (remember PPI alone doesn't mean a thing if you don't take into account of the viewing distance) but once you've been spoilt by FHD screens.. there's no going back
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Just remember that the Mate has a 720p display - stretched across 6.1 inches. It looks like Satan runs Huawei Now, i'm not sure if you care at all, but that would give me a heart attack.
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And father of satan runs samsung, they have 720p on a 6.3" in Mega
4K TVs are coming out now.. Let's wait for the era of 4K smartphone to emerge... but then 128GB microSD cards will feel like a 3.5" floppy disk in term of capacity
I checked and didn't find the Huawei in my country.
About pixel density, at 6 inches 1280 * 720 is pretty good but of course Sony's 1080p is amazing.
I just read the Engadget review of the Z Ultra and it seems pretty average for a phone but strange that they played one game for one hour and lost 40% of the charge! I'm not ready to deal with that unfortunately.
Seriously the device is expensive but I would've bought it in 2 seconds if the battery was better.
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I checked and didn't find the Huawei in my country.
About pixel density, at 6 inches 1280 * 720 is pretty good but of course Sony's 1080p is amazing.
I just read the Engadget review of the Z Ultra and it seems pretty average for a phone but strange that they played one game for one hour and lost 40% of the charge! I'm not ready to deal with that unfortunately.
Seriously the device is expensive but I would've bought it in 2 seconds if the battery was better.
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They played Riptide GP 2 for an hour. Have you seen that game? It's not exactly Tetris, so it's understandable that it sucks the life out of the battery. I watched a YouTube review of Riptide, and they said it kills the battery, and the reviewer played it on a different device (can't remember which, but it was either the Note 2, S4, HTC One or the Moto X)
I did a Google search for external power back for an 'Xperia z ', as this mobiles been around for a while.
I found an external battery product for the Xperia z from a company called 'Power Bank', and decided to send them an email enquiry regarding any possibilities that they might do a similar the market product for the 'Xperia z ultra', they replied saying that it is very likely that they will have something in on the market, and to watch their website during the coming months.
So, for anyone who's thinking of getting one, or has one already, there's a good change the battery stamina issue may well get solved.
Hope this info helps.
Regards
i am a LG V10 user. now i wanna upgrade. especially am looking for better screen(vibrant), battery performance, with sd card support, ir blaster, camera in low light(i love shoot pics in low light my v10 performs good), custom rom support atleast want root and custom recovery, etc., i searched for a better upgrade finally i cornered this mate 10. i never ever used any huawei device before. is mate 10 worth upgrade?.
i want some real time experience replies,
1. how is the sreen visibilty in sunlight?.(v10 is not that great in sunlight). both are ips lcd and with same resolution also. is the screen colour looks vibrant than v10?.
2. how's the battery performance?.(v10 is horrible in battery performance, SOT rarely touches 4hrs)
3. how's audio performance in earphones(is stock earphone sounds better)?. with hifi dac in v10 audio performance is good with high impedance earphones.
4. any heat issues after playing games or watching videos for long time.(my v10 crosses 45C after half an hour of gaming. in outdoor can't think about gaming or streaming videos, with the help of SD 808 proccy can make sandwich for breakfast).
5. any screen retention(ghost image) or bootloop issues(v10 is popular in bootloop issue, search google).
6. call reception, data connectivity and wifi performance?.
jd.21 said:
i am a LG V10 user. now i wanna upgrade. especially am looking for better screen(vibrant), battery performance, with sd card support, ir blaster, camera in low light(i love shoot pics in low light my v10 performs good), custom rom support atleast want root and custom recovery, etc., i searched for a better upgrade finally i cornered this mate 10. i never ever used any huawei device before. is mate 10 worth upgrade?.
i want some real time experience replies,
1. how is the sreen visibilty in sunlight?.(v10 is not that great in sunlight). both are ips lcd and with same resolution also. is the screen colour looks vibrant than v10?.
2. how's the battery performance?.(v10 is horrible in battery performance, SOT rarely touches 4hrs)
3. how's audio performance in earphones(is stock earphone sounds better)?. with hifi dac in v10 audio performance is good with high impedance earphones.
4. any heat issues after playing games or watching videos for long time.(my v10 crosses 45C after half an hour of gaming. in outdoor can't think about gaming or streaming videos, with the help of SD 808 proccy can make sandwich for breakfast).
5. any screen retention(ghost image) or bootloop issues(v10 is popular in bootloop issue, search google).
6. call reception, data connectivity and wifi performance?.
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1. The screen is readable in sunlight because the phone has good brightness.
2. The 4000mAh should get you a day and a half with light-moderate use. I have about 5-6 hours SOT
3. The audio with headphone jack is pretty good but I heard the bluetooth is terrible.
4. The phone stays pretty cool even after hours of streaming. Playing games gets warm but not hot.
5. No bootloop issues unless you mess with the bootloader or if you mess up while updating the firmware manually.
6. All good
Do not upgrade. Software is crap camera is crap updates don't fix anything and break more things then you wait months for another update. Random reboots too. Only Good thing is screen and battery life.
Just look at all the negative questions about problems on This forum.
I won't recommend this phone I'd stay with lg
Don't listen to numbnutsuk....I have the Mate 10 (NON-PRO) version and it is one of the best phones I have ever had, and I have had too many to count. Up to you!
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Don't listen to numbnutsuk....I have the Mate 10 (NON-PRO) version and it is one of the best phones I have ever had, and I have had too many to count. Up to you!
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The same here. One of the best phones. Speed, screen, batery, very good for me.
These are all opinions but I will say I have a Pixel 2 XL, had the s9+, and other devices I switch up.
I just picked up the Mate 10 Pro as an open box on sale at Best Buy in excellent (not even used) condition and I can honestly say it's one of the best Android phones I've ever used. Battery life is the real deal I can get 6-7 hours SOT easily. I like some of the features the software provides, and the call quality is outstanding. Like the speaker set-up. The full screen with the navigation dock is awesome.
I really like that the screen is mostly flat and not curved like the Samsung's, and even my Pixel 2 XL. Colors are very natural, quality is much better than my Pixel 2 XL.
Of course nothing is perfect I do wish it had wireless charging, and offered a Quad HD option like others.
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1. The screen is readable in sunlight because the phone has good brightness.
2. The 4000mAh should get you a day and a half with light-moderate use. I have about 5-6 hours SOT
3. The audio with headphone jack is pretty good but I heard the bluetooth is terrible.
4. The phone stays pretty cool even after hours of streaming. Playing games gets warm but not hot.
5. No bootloop issues unless you mess with the bootloader or if you mess up while updating the firmware manually.
6. All good
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thank you for your detailed info about the phone. just am looking for a phone with good dispaly, good speed for daily activities, especially less heat(really i burnt my hands after using v10), bluetooth, i use it very rarely so it's not a problem for me.
if the bootloader is unlockable then it's a boon for custom recovery and rooting(i requested lg so many times to unlock the bootloader of my v10 varaint but they never listened to me - dumbass).
my main usage are calls via VoLTE, data and wifi connectivity and some social media apps.
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Do not upgrade. Software is crap camera is crap updates don't fix anything and break more things then you wait months for another update. Random reboots too. Only Good thing is screen and battery life.
Just look at all the negative questions about problems on This forum.
I won't recommend this phone I'd stay with lg
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good that you have nice experience with lg. but for me not like you i don't like their policy. it's worst than (cr)appple policy. lg promised that v10 will receive every month security update but, after nougat update till now not even single update was released. unlocking bootloader and rooting is a mirage. my v10 is already suffering from screen retention, overheat and lagging issues. i don't know when my v10 going to face the infamous bootloop issue. fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
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Don't listen to numbnutsuk....I have the Mate 10 (NON-PRO) version and it is one of the best phones I have ever had, and I have had too many to count. Up to you!
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The same here. One of the best phones. Speed, screen, batery, very good for me.
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i seen many positive reviews like yours so only i cornered this mate 10(non-pro).
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These are all opinions but I will say I have a Pixel 2 XL, had the s9+, and other devices I switch up.
I just picked up the Mate 10 Pro as an open box on sale at Best Buy in excellent (not even used) condition and I can honestly say it's one of the best Android phones I've ever used. Battery life is the real deal I can get 6-7 hours SOT easily. I like some of the features the software provides, and the call quality is outstanding. Like the speaker set-up. The full screen with the navigation dock is awesome.
I really like that the screen is mostly flat and not curved like the Samsung's, and even my Pixel 2 XL. Colors are very natural, quality is much better than my Pixel 2 XL.
Of course nothing is perfect I do wish it had wireless charging, and offered a Quad HD option like others.
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nice, you got a excellent condition open box mate 10. hope you enjoying much with it. yes, nothing is perfect me also missing the removeable battery.
If you are getting one I suggest you get the Pro version which has much better battery life
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I have the pro version so the experience may be a bit different from regular Mate 10.
1. Mate 10 Pro has AMOLED screen. It's VERY bright and the color is quite good.
2. Battery is very good. It can last a day of heavy usage (playing Pokemon Go for hours) or 2 days of light usage.
3. The audio quality for wired headphone is ok. It's not bad, and depending on the type of music you listen to, the Huawei Histen sound effects may slightly improve the experience. However, it has the typical Android SRC issue (all outputs are re-sampled to 48khz/16bit). This means that if you have Hi-Res music files (96khz/24bit), the audio signal will be down-sampled and becomes the same or even worse than CD quality (44.1khz/16bit). AFAIK, LG V10, when using stock player, doesn't have this down-sampling issue. I don't have any non-Huawei phones to compare, but my FiiO X7 (professional Hi-Res audio player) definitely has better audio quality than Mate 10 Pro (I use Sennheiser IE800 IEM). There are also some issues with Bluetooth audio. When using AptX-compatible bluetooth headphones, there is a small pulsing noise when music just starts.
4. No heat issue at all.
5. If you don't unlock Bootloader and try to install un-released firmware, you won't experience any bootloop.
6. Pretty good. Be sure to check if your carieer's frequencies are compatible with the phone.
EDIT: grammar
Of course it does
dmlv said:
These are all opinions but I will say I have a Pixel 2 XL, had the s9+, and other devices I switch up.
I just picked up the Mate 10 Pro as an open box on sale at Best Buy in excellent (not even used) condition and I can honestly say it's one of the best Android phones I've ever used. Battery life is the real deal I can get 6-7 hours SOT easily. I like some of the features the software provides, and the call quality is outstanding. Like the speaker set-up. The full screen with the navigation dock is awesome.
I really like that the screen is mostly flat and not curved like the Samsung's, and even my Pixel 2 XL. Colors are very natural, quality is much better than my Pixel 2 XL.
Of course nothing is perfect I do wish it had wireless charging, and offered a Quad HD option like others.
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How much did you pay for yours open box ? I walked out spending 344$ after taxes open box.
dieselhazza said:
If you are getting one I suggest you get the Pro version which has much better battery life
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oh yes, because of amoled screen the battery life is better i think. if pro version has the sd card support and 3.5mm jack then def. i will buy it without any second thought. not only me most of the flagship lovers do it.
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I have the pro version so the experience may be a bit different from regular Mate 10.
1. Mate 10 Pro has AMOLED screen. It's VERY bright and the color is quite good.
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yes, amoled is brighter and sunlight visibility is good. but, the pro misses my most wanted features
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2. Battery is very good. It can last a day of heavy usage (playing Pokemon Go for hours) or 2 days of light usage.
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if it's last for atleast one full day with moderate use then it's enough for me.
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3. The audio quality for wired headphone is ok. It's not bad, and depending on the type of music you listen to, the Huawei Histen sound effects may slightly improve the experience. However, it has the typical Android SRC issue (all outputs are re-sampled to 48khz/16bit). This means that if you have Hi-Res music files (96khz/24bit), the audio signal will be down-sampled and becomes the same or even worse than CD quality (44.1khz/16bit). AFAIK, LG V10, when using stock player, doesn't have this down-sampling issue. I don't have any non-Huawei phones to compare, but my FiiO X7 (professional Hi-Res audio player) definitely has better audio quality than Mate 10 Pro (I use Sennheiser IE800 IEM). There are also some issues with Bluetooth audio. When using AptX-compatible bluetooth headphones, there is a small pulsing noise when music just starts.
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in my lg v10 i love to listen hi-res audio with the help of dedicated hifi dac. after receiving mate 10 i have to test both phone's audio output. bluetooth? i use it very very rarely. yearly once or two, i don't know when i used bluetooth last time in my v10.
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4. No heat issue at all.
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most expected thing. after using v10 for long now waiting to have a device with less heat. i think, kirin is better than sd in terms of long use and thermal management.
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5. If you don't unlock Bootloader and try to install un-released firmware, you won't experience any bootloop.
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mostly i won't do flashing but for rooting and custom recovery unlocking bootloader is required. i am afraid if i install any custom roms some unique features of stock rom won't available so better i stick with stock anytime.
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6. Pretty good. Be sure to check if your carieer's frequencies are compatible with the phone.
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mate 10 supports mostly all the frequencies i think so data connectivity and volte support won't be a problem. good to know that this mate 10 supports dual 4g and volte at the same time. great feature.
I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
More battery life is *always* better, but I really have no complaints about my Note 10 battery. It lasts all day, every day. I average 5.5 hours SOT, but it would get a lot more if I pushed it below 10% charge. However, I rarely let it drop below 30%, or fully charge to 100%. I try to take it off the charger between 60-80% to preserve long-term battery life. So while 5.5 hours SOT may seem low to other Note users, I am averaging 5.5 hours SOT from only a 50-70% charge, which is pretty damn good imo.
I disabled some apps that I'll never use, but otherwise I don't need to gimp it to make it through the day. I noticed a slight improvement in battery life with Android 10. I don't do much gaming, but I do a lot of web browsing, YouTube, and listen to Google Play Music and Sirius XM, and it has no problems lasting a full day.
I have the Snapdragon model. I don't have any experience with the Exynos model, but if you are in the UK, then I would recommend going with Exynos just for the warranty. There may be some YouTube videos comparing the battery and performance differences, you may want to look for those. I remember a couple of years ago the Exynos models were noticeably worse as far as battery, but I think the latest Exynos chips have closed the gap.
If battery life is a top priority, then you should consider the Note 10+ which has 23% larger battery (4300 vs 3500 mAh).
One last thing to consider: The Galaxy S20 models are right around the corner. I am not trying to talk you out of a Note, but if you can live without the Spen, you might want to wait for the Galaxy S20 Plus and Ultra. The Plus model is supposed to have a 4500 mAh battery, and the Ultra is rumored to have a massive 5000 mAh battery.
Edit: Btw, congrats on graduating from iOS. You'll love the customizability of Android, and now that RCS is available, you won't miss iMessage as much :good:
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I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
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I own exynos note10 plus
Battery time is average.
battery timing is inversely proportional to the time you are free
sublimaze said:
More battery life is *always* better, but I really have no complaints about my Note 10 battery. It lasts all day, every day. I average 5.5 hours SOT, but it would get a lot more if I pushed it below 10% charge. However, I rarely let it drop below 30%, or fully charge to 100%. I try to take it off the charger between 60-80% to preserve long-term battery life. So while 5.5 hours SOT may seem low to other Note users, I am averaging 5.5 hours SOT from only a 50-70% charge, which is pretty damn good imo.
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Edit: Btw, congrats on graduating from iOS. You'll love the customizability of Android, and now that RCS is available, you won't miss iMessage as much :good:
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Thanks for taking the time to reply - appreciate it. Sounds like our usage patterns are similar. I don’t really game but I use web and media on public transport for a couple of hours a day, in poor signal areas so every phone I’ve had struggles.
Am trying to keep phone size down, the Note 10 Plus is definitely too big! I like the fact that with the standard Note 10 it’s almost the same size as my current iPhone XS, just 5mm taller.
Re graduating (haha) I’ve had android before. Before this iPhone I had the OnePlus 5T and really liked it until I changed cars and it completely refused to talk to the audio system.
I found a YouTube video comparing the Qualcomm and Exynos Note 10’s and in his test he got 7 hrs from the Exynos and 8hrs from the Snapdragon. Wow, bit of a difference.
Will see what the S20 (standard size) is like, and then decide whether to risk an imported Note 10 [emoji106]
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Correction, the video of the Snapdragon getting another hour of screen time is the S10, not the Note 10, which means the Exynos is the 8nm 9820 rather than the 9825 in the Note.
Video for reference https://youtu.be/shrYnaxVenE
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I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
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So i got my Exynos note10 (not a new one, a used one but in a good shape) a week ago running android Q, and the battery drain was a little bit higher than average (compared to what people claiming in the battery section). So i decided to do a fresh reset by flashing a firmware using odin, after that i did some optimizations, disabling features that i dont really need, debloating some apps and waiting for the phone to learn my battery usage pattern (it took me around 4-5 days).So now I can get 7 to 8 hours of SOT using Chrome as my web browser, social media apps, and youtube. So yeah i think the 3500 mah battery is doing a pretty good job.
That’s really good, lots of owners don’t get that out of the Plus model
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So i got my Exynos note10 (not a new one, a used one but in a good shape) a week ago running android Q, and the battery drain was a little bit higher than average (compared to what people claiming in the battery section). So i decided to do a fresh reset by flashing a firmware using odin, after that i did some optimizations, disabling features that i dont really need, debloating some apps and waiting for the phone to learn my battery usage pattern (it took me around 4-5 days).So now I can get 7 to 8 hours of SOT using Chrome as my web browser, social media apps, and youtube. So yeah i think the 3500 mah battery is doing a pretty good job.
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Can you tell us more what did you disable, what did you uninstall/disabled and more...
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Can you tell us more what did you disable, what did you uninstall/disabled and more...
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So the first thing i did was to flash a stock firmware and root it using magisk. Then i charged my phone until it get 100%, i use it until it dies and cannot get booted again (when the phone dies keep rebooting it until it cannot get rebooted again). I did the charging and discharging thing twice. I think this step is like calibrating your battery, correct me if I am wrong.
Then thanks to this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225 i debloated Bixby, samsung pass / pay , samsung sticker center... Do this step at your own risk because you can brick your phone if you didnt choose correctly what to debloat.
Then i enabled Adaptive power saving, put unused apps to sleep, Optimise Battery usage and i restricted background activity and i use dark mode all the time.
I disabled Air action and all features related to S pen ( i only use s pen for writing).
You may not notice a big difference in the battery life until your phone learns usage pettern ("Learning pattern" usage becomes "An estimated time" in device care battery's section)
If you are on a rooted phone then you can use greenify to hibernate other apps.
Additional information, my phone battery drains from like 100% to 80% much quicker and then it start to go slower and slower because each battery behaves in a different way.
Took another look at the Note 10 today and think it's an absolutely stunning looking device. Best looking phone around for me. I noted in the Samsung store that they don't offer any sort of satisfaction guarantee, which is disappointing. Would have been tempted to take one if I had some insurance on the battery life not working out.
But the S20 has now launched, and it's impressive from a specs point of view. Time to see how the S20 reviews play out.
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Took another look at the Note 10 today and think it's an absolutely stunning looking device. Best looking phone around for me. I noted in the Samsung store that they don't offer any sort of satisfaction guarantee, which is disappointing. Would have been tempted to take one if I had some insurance on the battery life not working out.
But the S20 has now launched, and it's impressive from a specs point of view. Time to see how the S20 reviews play out.
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Yes, the S20 phones are phenomenal, especially the S20 Ultra. Which means the Note 11/20 will be an absolute beast
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So the first thing i did was to flash a stock firmware and root it using magisk. Then i charged my phone until it get 100%, i use it until it dies and cannot get booted again (when the phone dies keep rebooting it until it cannot get rebooted again). I did the charging and discharging thing twice. I think this step is like calibrating your battery, correct me if I am wrong.
Then thanks to this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225 i debloated Bixby, samsung pass / pay , samsung sticker center... Do this step at your own risk because you can brick your phone if you didnt choose correctly what to debloat.
Then i enabled Adaptive power saving, put unused apps to sleep, Optimise Battery usage and i restricted background activity and i use dark mode all the time.
I disabled Air action and all features related to S pen ( i only use s pen for writing).
You may not notice a big difference in the battery life until your phone learns usage pettern ("Learning pattern" usage becomes "An estimated time" in device care battery's section)
If you are on a rooted phone then you can use greenify to hibernate other apps.
Additional information, my phone battery drains from like 100% to 80% much quicker and then it start to go slower and slower because each battery behaves in a different way.
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You are wrong this is really old battery habits. For several years and actual battery tech it's not recommended to fully discharge , the best way to improve battery life is to stay over 20% and avoid fast charging. That is also not how phone calibrates batteries.
Source: https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/
Battery life on the Snapdragon Note 10+ has been great. It stayed consistent with the Android 10 update. I had the Note 8 before this phone, and I'd have to say the 10+ is better.
Indeed the difference is not so abysmal as before
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Correction, the video of the Snapdragon getting another hour of screen time is the S10, not the Note 10, which means the Exynos is the 8nm 9820 rather than the 9825 in the Note.
Video for reference https://youtu.be/shrYnaxVenE
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Actually, there is a comparison for Note 10+ Exynos vs Snapdragon and indeed, the difference in battery is now minimal, of course the weak point for the Exynos is still the Mali GPU. So it looks like for power comsuption is now more even between Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855 (which is kind of obvious since both are 7nm)
Video of the comparison: https://youtu.be/Ni0sCLDoPPs
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Actually, there is a comparison for Note 10+ Exynos vs Snapdragon and indeed, the difference in battery is now minimal, of course the weak point for the Exynos is still the Mali GPU. So it looks like for power comsuption is now more even between Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855 (which is kind of obvious since both are 7nm)
Video of the comparison: https://youtu.be/Ni0sCLDoPPs
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Interesting thanks.
One of the things I’ve been bitten with on iPhones is the effect on battery life of the inferior Intel modems they’ve been using for the last few years. I went from an iPhone SE to an Xs and the difference in signal strength was definitely noticeable, and that will affect power consumption too.
I’m not saying this is the same with the Exynos modem but do tend to think that at this point, Qualcomm modems are the better
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I have the base s21 on order due to arrive on friday upgrading from an s9. So far i'm yet to see any positive comments about the phone and is making me consider sending it back straight away and getting something else.
I would love to hear nice comments from real day to day users to hopefully sway me back the other way but with the camera, battery and chrome issues i've been seeing i don't know if i can commit.
Everything is great except for the battery
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Everything is great except for the battery
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Damn i've been plague with terrible battery life on my exynos S9 and was hoping to finally have a phone that lasted longer than it
dooftrooper said:
Damn i've been plague with terrible battery life on my exynos S9 and was hoping to finally have a phone that lasted longer than it
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The battery is good, just not on this latest february update. Before the update my S21 exynos had good battery life (6hours SOT on 4G, 7-8hours SOT on wifi). So we just need to wait for samsung to fix the battery drain this newest update caused.
Haven't had any of the issues others are posting, S21 (Snapdragon). Coming from 20+ battery not as good, but not seeing the drain others are complaining about. Very happy, even my Smart unlock works much more often, and finger print reader definitely better, but not near as good as my old Pixel. It was lightening. Loved the look of the old curved screen, but with flat, have less issues with case fitting and accidental swipes. Prefer the S21 size, I don't use my phone for games or Kindle, more as a phone and information center and controller for other devices. Oh yea, and a ton of music and Android Auto, wifi calling works better, even my screen saver when charging stays on now even though hits 100% charged. Glad I took them up on the "free" upgrade
The S21 Ultra is an all day phone.
2 Days for moderate use.
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Damn i've been plague with terrible battery life on my exynos S9 and was hoping to finally have a phone that lasted longer than it
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I haven't had an battery issues (Exynos) but I have been on WiFi all day, I have read the drain occurs on mobile data. I have been getting about 8hrs screen on time with 120hz at FHD+
Hey guys I was actually scouting for new devices when I found a unboxed but new edge 30 pro for a great price. So my question is, is it a good device and should I even consider buying it. Also on the same point how is the battery life which is my greatest worry considering the 8 gen 1 in it. And how is the stock ui been.
Thank you !
Welp, phone seems pretty nice,
But 5000mAh battery scares me.
its not worth it, battery life is atrocious, updates are the worst in Android world, has no telephoto whatsoever, if u are into stock just get Pixel or Oneplus
OnePlus seems to be a problematic about its firmware and productivity,
Redmi or poco would be nice
Samsung would be nice too.
OnePlus with custom rom is considered best + it's snapdragon not overheating Tensor mess, Xiaomi with AOSP if any for newer devices, is trash and is best used with MIUI ( noone really likes that )
Of course it is, Xiaomi phones only indeed to work nicely with MIUI,
My battery lasts easily 1 day, sometimes up to 2, I really have no clue why are people complaining - are y'all running with all your services turned on constantly?...
literally everyone who owns a motorola device is complaining in their official forums so you gotta be using it for phone calls only and not as a top dog smart device, the drain on that thing is insane, if i bring my old Snapdragon 865 device running both @ 144hz , Moto will be fully dead while the other will be at over 60%
US equivalent is Edge+2022
A13 has battery improved, but it has minor flickering issue due to inconsistent brightness on different refresh rate. Set it on 60 or 144Hz can avoid the issue
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literally everyone who owns a motorola device is complaining in their official forums so you gotta be using it for phone calls only and not as a top dog smart device, the drain on that thing is insane, if i bring my old Snapdragon 865 device running both @ 144hz , Moto will be fully dead while the other will be at over 60%
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I don't complain. I have Moto device (mid-range) and it has been very good since 2019. Month ago i changed new battery and now it's still good for next three years
Battery life is also great. 2 days easily and 7-8H sot usually with 60% usage.
Freegeeek said:
Hey guys I was actually scouting for new devices when I found a unboxed but new edge 30 pro for a great price. So my question is, is it a good device and should I even consider buying it. Also on the same point how is the battery life which is my greatest worry considering the 8 gen 1 in it. And how is the stock ui been.
Thank you !
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I would not buy Edge 30 Pro because Edge 40 Pro is so much better. Atleast specs.
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I would not buy Edge 30 Pro because Edge 40 Pro is so much better. Atleast specs.
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Ah i see, yeah i would love to do that but the reason i was considering the edge 30 pro was due to a fantastic deal. After some days of researching i beleive this is a good device with a minor caviate being the battery life
Hopefully once i do get the device the battery wouldn't be too much of an issue, and i don't find any other skeltons in the closet. (Maybe i might even be pleasently suprised by the battery life considering my 888 is not a high bar to clear)
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Ah i see, yeah i would love to do that but the reason i was considering the edge 30 pro was due to a fantastic deal. After some days of researching i beleive this is a good device with a minor caviate being the battery life
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Okay, so if like it then buy it
I don't think that battery life is your problem. I think 8 gen 1 heating could be problem.
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Okay, so if like it then buy it
I don't think that battery life is your problem. I think 8 gen 1 heating could be problem
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Ah, i see from what i have read though even with the x30 being an inferno, the edge 30 pro was quite good with head management, i hope that statement is actually true and not just reviewer fluff
there is no heat management, device is very plasticky and thus has no vapor chamber solution, heat is not an issue, battery suffers from poor governors, if u are buying from china unlock bootloader and use it with custom rom