Is it worth upgrade?. - Huawei Mate 10 Questions & Answers

i am a LG V10 user. now i wanna upgrade. especially am looking for better screen(vibrant), battery performance, with sd card support, ir blaster, camera in low light(i love shoot pics in low light my v10 performs good), custom rom support atleast want root and custom recovery, etc., i searched for a better upgrade finally i cornered this mate 10. i never ever used any huawei device before. is mate 10 worth upgrade?.
i want some real time experience replies,
1. how is the sreen visibilty in sunlight?.(v10 is not that great in sunlight). both are ips lcd and with same resolution also. is the screen colour looks vibrant than v10?.
2. how's the battery performance?.(v10 is horrible in battery performance, SOT rarely touches 4hrs)
3. how's audio performance in earphones(is stock earphone sounds better)?. with hifi dac in v10 audio performance is good with high impedance earphones.
4. any heat issues after playing games or watching videos for long time.(my v10 crosses 45C after half an hour of gaming. in outdoor can't think about gaming or streaming videos, with the help of SD 808 proccy can make sandwich for breakfast).
5. any screen retention(ghost image) or bootloop issues(v10 is popular in bootloop issue, search google).
6. call reception, data connectivity and wifi performance?.

jd.21 said:
i am a LG V10 user. now i wanna upgrade. especially am looking for better screen(vibrant), battery performance, with sd card support, ir blaster, camera in low light(i love shoot pics in low light my v10 performs good), custom rom support atleast want root and custom recovery, etc., i searched for a better upgrade finally i cornered this mate 10. i never ever used any huawei device before. is mate 10 worth upgrade?.
i want some real time experience replies,
1. how is the sreen visibilty in sunlight?.(v10 is not that great in sunlight). both are ips lcd and with same resolution also. is the screen colour looks vibrant than v10?.
2. how's the battery performance?.(v10 is horrible in battery performance, SOT rarely touches 4hrs)
3. how's audio performance in earphones(is stock earphone sounds better)?. with hifi dac in v10 audio performance is good with high impedance earphones.
4. any heat issues after playing games or watching videos for long time.(my v10 crosses 45C after half an hour of gaming. in outdoor can't think about gaming or streaming videos, with the help of SD 808 proccy can make sandwich for breakfast).
5. any screen retention(ghost image) or bootloop issues(v10 is popular in bootloop issue, search google).
6. call reception, data connectivity and wifi performance?.
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1. The screen is readable in sunlight because the phone has good brightness.
2. The 4000mAh should get you a day and a half with light-moderate use. I have about 5-6 hours SOT
3. The audio with headphone jack is pretty good but I heard the bluetooth is terrible.
4. The phone stays pretty cool even after hours of streaming. Playing games gets warm but not hot.
5. No bootloop issues unless you mess with the bootloader or if you mess up while updating the firmware manually.
6. All good

Do not upgrade. Software is crap camera is crap updates don't fix anything and break more things then you wait months for another update. Random reboots too. Only Good thing is screen and battery life.
Just look at all the negative questions about problems on This forum.
I won't recommend this phone I'd stay with lg

Don't listen to numbnutsuk....I have the Mate 10 (NON-PRO) version and it is one of the best phones I have ever had, and I have had too many to count. Up to you!

jaseman said:
Don't listen to numbnutsuk....I have the Mate 10 (NON-PRO) version and it is one of the best phones I have ever had, and I have had too many to count. Up to you!
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The same here. One of the best phones. Speed, screen, batery, very good for me.

These are all opinions but I will say I have a Pixel 2 XL, had the s9+, and other devices I switch up.
I just picked up the Mate 10 Pro as an open box on sale at Best Buy in excellent (not even used) condition and I can honestly say it's one of the best Android phones I've ever used. Battery life is the real deal I can get 6-7 hours SOT easily. I like some of the features the software provides, and the call quality is outstanding. Like the speaker set-up. The full screen with the navigation dock is awesome.
I really like that the screen is mostly flat and not curved like the Samsung's, and even my Pixel 2 XL. Colors are very natural, quality is much better than my Pixel 2 XL.
Of course nothing is perfect I do wish it had wireless charging, and offered a Quad HD option like others.

JoshuaLintag said:
1. The screen is readable in sunlight because the phone has good brightness.
2. The 4000mAh should get you a day and a half with light-moderate use. I have about 5-6 hours SOT
3. The audio with headphone jack is pretty good but I heard the bluetooth is terrible.
4. The phone stays pretty cool even after hours of streaming. Playing games gets warm but not hot.
5. No bootloop issues unless you mess with the bootloader or if you mess up while updating the firmware manually.
6. All good
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thank you for your detailed info about the phone. just am looking for a phone with good dispaly, good speed for daily activities, especially less heat(really i burnt my hands after using v10), bluetooth, i use it very rarely so it's not a problem for me.
if the bootloader is unlockable then it's a boon for custom recovery and rooting(i requested lg so many times to unlock the bootloader of my v10 varaint but they never listened to me - dumbass).
my main usage are calls via VoLTE, data and wifi connectivity and some social media apps.
numbnutsuk said:
Do not upgrade. Software is crap camera is crap updates don't fix anything and break more things then you wait months for another update. Random reboots too. Only Good thing is screen and battery life.
Just look at all the negative questions about problems on This forum.
I won't recommend this phone I'd stay with lg
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good that you have nice experience with lg. but for me not like you i don't like their policy. it's worst than (cr)appple policy. lg promised that v10 will receive every month security update but, after nougat update till now not even single update was released. unlocking bootloader and rooting is a mirage. my v10 is already suffering from screen retention, overheat and lagging issues. i don't know when my v10 going to face the infamous bootloop issue. fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
jaseman said:
Don't listen to numbnutsuk....I have the Mate 10 (NON-PRO) version and it is one of the best phones I have ever had, and I have had too many to count. Up to you!
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adminttd said:
The same here. One of the best phones. Speed, screen, batery, very good for me.
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i seen many positive reviews like yours so only i cornered this mate 10(non-pro).
dmlv said:
These are all opinions but I will say I have a Pixel 2 XL, had the s9+, and other devices I switch up.
I just picked up the Mate 10 Pro as an open box on sale at Best Buy in excellent (not even used) condition and I can honestly say it's one of the best Android phones I've ever used. Battery life is the real deal I can get 6-7 hours SOT easily. I like some of the features the software provides, and the call quality is outstanding. Like the speaker set-up. The full screen with the navigation dock is awesome.
I really like that the screen is mostly flat and not curved like the Samsung's, and even my Pixel 2 XL. Colors are very natural, quality is much better than my Pixel 2 XL.
Of course nothing is perfect I do wish it had wireless charging, and offered a Quad HD option like others.
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nice, you got a excellent condition open box mate 10. hope you enjoying much with it. yes, nothing is perfect me also missing the removeable battery.

If you are getting one I suggest you get the Pro version which has much better battery life
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I have the pro version so the experience may be a bit different from regular Mate 10.
1. Mate 10 Pro has AMOLED screen. It's VERY bright and the color is quite good.
2. Battery is very good. It can last a day of heavy usage (playing Pokemon Go for hours) or 2 days of light usage.
3. The audio quality for wired headphone is ok. It's not bad, and depending on the type of music you listen to, the Huawei Histen sound effects may slightly improve the experience. However, it has the typical Android SRC issue (all outputs are re-sampled to 48khz/16bit). This means that if you have Hi-Res music files (96khz/24bit), the audio signal will be down-sampled and becomes the same or even worse than CD quality (44.1khz/16bit). AFAIK, LG V10, when using stock player, doesn't have this down-sampling issue. I don't have any non-Huawei phones to compare, but my FiiO X7 (professional Hi-Res audio player) definitely has better audio quality than Mate 10 Pro (I use Sennheiser IE800 IEM). There are also some issues with Bluetooth audio. When using AptX-compatible bluetooth headphones, there is a small pulsing noise when music just starts.
4. No heat issue at all.
5. If you don't unlock Bootloader and try to install un-released firmware, you won't experience any bootloop.
6. Pretty good. Be sure to check if your carieer's frequencies are compatible with the phone.
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Of course it does

dmlv said:
These are all opinions but I will say I have a Pixel 2 XL, had the s9+, and other devices I switch up.
I just picked up the Mate 10 Pro as an open box on sale at Best Buy in excellent (not even used) condition and I can honestly say it's one of the best Android phones I've ever used. Battery life is the real deal I can get 6-7 hours SOT easily. I like some of the features the software provides, and the call quality is outstanding. Like the speaker set-up. The full screen with the navigation dock is awesome.
I really like that the screen is mostly flat and not curved like the Samsung's, and even my Pixel 2 XL. Colors are very natural, quality is much better than my Pixel 2 XL.
Of course nothing is perfect I do wish it had wireless charging, and offered a Quad HD option like others.
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How much did you pay for yours open box ? I walked out spending 344$ after taxes open box.

dieselhazza said:
If you are getting one I suggest you get the Pro version which has much better battery life
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oh yes, because of amoled screen the battery life is better i think. if pro version has the sd card support and 3.5mm jack then def. i will buy it without any second thought. not only me most of the flagship lovers do it.
yfnew said:
I have the pro version so the experience may be a bit different from regular Mate 10.
1. Mate 10 Pro has AMOLED screen. It's VERY bright and the color is quite good.
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yes, amoled is brighter and sunlight visibility is good. but, the pro misses my most wanted features
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2. Battery is very good. It can last a day of heavy usage (playing Pokemon Go for hours) or 2 days of light usage.
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if it's last for atleast one full day with moderate use then it's enough for me.
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3. The audio quality for wired headphone is ok. It's not bad, and depending on the type of music you listen to, the Huawei Histen sound effects may slightly improve the experience. However, it has the typical Android SRC issue (all outputs are re-sampled to 48khz/16bit). This means that if you have Hi-Res music files (96khz/24bit), the audio signal will be down-sampled and becomes the same or even worse than CD quality (44.1khz/16bit). AFAIK, LG V10, when using stock player, doesn't have this down-sampling issue. I don't have any non-Huawei phones to compare, but my FiiO X7 (professional Hi-Res audio player) definitely has better audio quality than Mate 10 Pro (I use Sennheiser IE800 IEM). There are also some issues with Bluetooth audio. When using AptX-compatible bluetooth headphones, there is a small pulsing noise when music just starts.
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in my lg v10 i love to listen hi-res audio with the help of dedicated hifi dac. after receiving mate 10 i have to test both phone's audio output. bluetooth? i use it very very rarely. yearly once or two, i don't know when i used bluetooth last time in my v10.
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4. No heat issue at all.
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most expected thing. after using v10 for long now waiting to have a device with less heat. i think, kirin is better than sd in terms of long use and thermal management.
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5. If you don't unlock Bootloader and try to install un-released firmware, you won't experience any bootloop.
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mostly i won't do flashing but for rooting and custom recovery unlocking bootloader is required. i am afraid if i install any custom roms some unique features of stock rom won't available so better i stick with stock anytime.
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6. Pretty good. Be sure to check if your carieer's frequencies are compatible with the phone.
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mate 10 supports mostly all the frequencies i think so data connectivity and volte support won't be a problem. good to know that this mate 10 supports dual 4g and volte at the same time. great feature.

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My experience with Sony Xperia M4 AQUA so far...

-overheating issues(you can literally cook eggs on the back of this phone)
-low gaming performance, games stutter a lot, some even run with less than 20FPS(just look at this - twice cheaper phone outperforming m4)
-low available usable storage(under 2GB)
-takes forever to charge(5 hours+ via USB)
-takes forever for the camera to focus
-no way to root it
-no way to unlock the bootloader(apparently now you can)
-overall feels very laggy, unresponsive and slow
+waterproof
+decent camera
If i have to make a conclusion i'd say its the most disappointing phone i ever bought and just suggest to people to avoid it.
thgm21 said:
-overheating issues(you can literally cook eggs on the back of this phone)
-low gaming performance, games stutter a lot, some even run with less than 20FPS(just look at this - twice cheaper phone outperforming m4)
-low available usable storage(under 2GB)
-takes forever to charge(5 hours+ via USB)
-takes forever for the camera to focus
-no way to root it
-no way to unlock the bootloader
-overall feels very laggy, unresponsive and slow
+waterproof
+decent camera
If i have to make a conclusion i'd say its the most disappointing phone i ever bought and just suggest to people to avoid it.
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Overheating issues? I get a max of 60 degree Celsius, not enough to cook
Gaming and performance issues - Yea.. Sony screwed up with
.99 update
Storage space - I got 3GB free lol. But yea, I feel you.
I can charge faster than 5hrs!
Camera focus is okayish, it outperformed my friend's Mi3 so I'm proud.
Root - Almost there I think
Bootloader - It's unlockable already.
The phone isn't that too bad, just the firmware that screwed the performance. Downgrade the phone and you should get a better experience.
I mostly agree with AndyPhoenix9879
Mine doens't seem to overheat that much even after hours of 3g web browsing ( i dont play games)
Performance is a issue with 2.99 thats why i flashed back 1.100
storage is a problem but after unistalling all bloatware and disabling anything else (that i dont need) i got 2.97GB free
Charging with a 1200mAh wall charger takes no more than 2 hours, if you charge only with computer usb 5 hours is ok, pc usb gives up to 500mah so a 2400mah battery needs 2400/500 almost 5 hours
camera is just ok
root, hope it comes soon and bootloader as AndyPhoenix9879 mentioned is unlocked already.
Overheating is the biggest problem. Using camera make the phone hotter, capture picture is so slow. I'm on plan to buy a second phone while sony M4 let me down day by day.
The problem is not root. Camera with 54-100Mb/s is fast,I push button and no lag. Very good performance with firm.112 35400 in antutu. I play emulators ppsspp,reicast,mupen64 and my phone no is hot. Only when charge by USB and I do hotspot wifi and ftp server and play at same time because no power in USB to charge.
Is there anyway to get otg?
Like by using a powered Otg cable.
Xperia L got otg in a similar method.
.112 is the spanish generic firmware of m4 aqua.are you absolutely sure it doesn't overheat?
Yes, I'm sure. If you want I can do any test. Only hot when charge by usb for many hours. My phone is UK without company, with 112.
Im using newest firmware 2.99 and im not seen lags and times where phone got slow..
Overheating.. Max temp. 80*C, okay..
But bad game performance? No no no, WoTB max settings 30-50 fps, MC5 normally playable, GTA3 Normally playable.. Etc.
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FirstMn said:
But bad game performance?
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPD97FTcghE
The E4g have much lower resolution so it is absolutely not comparable performance.
neptun2 said:
The E4g have much lower resolution so it is absolutely not comparable performance.
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25% less to be exact(1500 pixels versus 2000) and costs 50% less(130 euros versus 270) , why can't it be compared?
BTW: My phone seems to get around 29k on antutu on 64bit(just after factory reset), no idea how you are getting 35k.
Downgrade to spanish firm 112 from xperiafirm with flashtool. 35400 in antutu,you will have mass storage option again amera faster and no lag. Y play ppsspp at full speed with tekken soul calibour,shenmue in reicast...
I got this phone to replace my broken s4 for a period of time. I think most of my issues with it can be resolved once root is achieved and an optimized stock OS rom is made.
thgm21 said:
25% less to be exact(1500 pixels versus 2000) and costs 50% less(130 euros versus 270) , why can't it be compared?
BTW: My phone seems to get around 29k on antutu on 64bit(just after factory reset), no idea how you are getting 35k.
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Well 540x960= 500 000 pixels (approximately) for E4G. For m4 aqua we have 1280x720 which is 921 000 pixels. Almost twice more pixels for M4 Aqua to process. About the antutu result - results around 35000 were achievable with first firmware (.112). With current one more than 30000 is really difficult.
They have two totally different prices. The Snapdragon 615 is an oven, and the only thing they should REALLY improve is the focus speed and video quality.
Hubby brought a couple of these home last night to replace our seriously outdated phones (his was a blackberry that he ruined dropping it into a river, mine is a trusty old Optimus LG One that is still ticking but showing it's age). What I have seen so far
1 - came with 16gb and had 9 free so not too bad there, can upgrade with a card to an extra 128...should do me for a bit
2 - yes it gets quite warm during constant use but not unbearable, cools quickly
3- my wireless router is dieing (sigh..I loved my old DLink DR615!!!)
4 - holy freaking updates! holy bunch of crap bloatware!
5 - no pre-installed games? With all that bloatware you think they would at least have solitaire or something to kill time while updating everything
6 - camera...meh it's a phone, not a high end picture taking device but does fine to capture those spur of the moment happenings, haven't tested video yet
7 - like the display - netflix, crackle, etc all play clearly, very watchable
8. love lollipop plus the Sony overlay - they have incorporated some of the key features I used to have to download seperate apps for like silencing the whole phone with one click, move to sd, flashlight, etc... little things but it makes the overall experience nice.
9 - sound quality is decent for a midrange phone, call quality is great
10 - it's soo much bigger than any other phone I have had! First phone I had that didn't fit in my jean jacket pocket! that could cause some issues as I am very forgetful LOL
In all, no major complaints... once I get my internet connection woes sorted with the router I'll be able to download my larger games and see how it does there. For now I got Frozen Bubble installed so that will tide me over
I quite like the phone, but I'm getting a pretty strange bug - sometimes when I record a video, it comes out as black plus sound. Even in the pc I can't see anything but I can hear the sound. When I reboot, it's back to normal. It happens when I really want to record a video and then I realize that I haven't got anything. Is there anybody with the same problem?
Darxor said:
I quite like the phone, but I'm getting a pretty strange bug - sometimes when I record a video, it comes out as black plus sound. Even in the pc I can't see anything but I can hear the sound. When I reboot, it's back to normal. It happens when I really want to record a video and then I realize that I haven't got anything. Is there anybody with the same problem?
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Yes, that bug is happening to me too.
Gilmour79 said:
Yes, that bug is happening to me too.
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Reboot phone.
AndyPhoenix9879 said:
Reboot phone.
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Yeah as it might be the only solution, I can't just always do a test video and then reboot if it is black. The last time I wanted to record my squash match and then after 40min of recording it came out black. Hope they'll fix it with 6.0

Z5C or Z3C?

Hey there,
I want to buy a new phone and put my C5303 away ... I am saw some people complaining about overheating Z5C. Should I buy Z3C or Z5C?
What will I do with the phone?
1.Play HD games (rr3,asphalt 8 etc.)
2.Texting
3.Take so much photos (not recording videos so much but I will record some)
4.And of course phone calls
Thanks to those people who will help me
Z5c. The camera is far better than on z3c. So is gaming
Go for the Z3 compact! Ive had the Z3 compact and now ive got the Z5 compact, the Z5c heats up when playing games (even with less demanding ones like terraria) and this results in battery drain. Where the Z3c used to last me a day with the same use the Z5c has to be charged twice daily. I would go back to the Z3c if I could, it was a great device and probably the best phone I've ever had.
Z5c definitely gets warm but not super hot unless you are installing apps or doing something intense while gaming...
I myself play asphalt 8 and it's really just fine, works great.
As for battery life, any heavy 3d app is bound to eat battery on any device , I'd say you can get over an hour of gaming and still make it to the end of the day, I've never had to charge my Z5c twice in a day and with casual use (no heavy 3d gaming) I usually start the next day with about 50-60%
If you want a dependable camera, you'll need Z5c. Z3c's camera is really not good at all. I've had both and the difference is significant. Plus, the capless usb is a huge advantage. The front camera is also far better on z5c.
I was in the same doubt: Z5C for sure! the construction itself (the z5c it's nicer than z3c), the battery is ok (normally use: BT activated non-stop, Mobile Data, 30min-1h angry birds 2, about 2-3h calls, and playing around the phone a lot, music about 1-2h - charged in the morning, and in the evening is about 40-50% which is impressive for me, coming from Galaxy S6 dual sim where I had to charge it twice per day!). The camera is definitely better (I spent about 1 day to compare other phones with Z5 and Z5C)
I won't call it either warm or super hot but it does heat up. Camera on z5c is way better and screen improved. The battery life will just getting better after Android 6.0 so it should not be a problem. If you do real playing HD games full day then z3c might be more safe for it's lower temp.
So most of you guys are saying that Z5C is better than Z3C. I will get the Z5C %70. I will get it from Dubai so not sure about the price. Anyway thanks for help I think Z5C should be a good device for me. Have a nice day!
I have the Z5C and I really dislike it. Great phone ruined with Snapdragon 810.
Some things are just unusable on this phone. Like WiFi hotspot with LTE. Phone turns it off automatically after a while since the phone gets too hot.
Really disappointed on this phone. 1/10
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And this issue happened to me while the phone was not even charging, so I'm guessing that it lasts even shorter period of time if the phone is charging.
We used to use my phone as a router while not at home since I've got unlimited 150 MB/s LTE data plan.
But with this device it is actually impossible to use it for this purpose.
Also the phone also shuts down the camera if taking 4k video for more than a few minutes. The same error message appears about the temperature as with the LTE WiFi hotspot.
Other that that the phone is great, but still. Anyone needing these features should get some other phone.
I could live with these issues if the phone was actually cheap, but Z5C is not a cheap phone.
flippy_ said:
I have the Z5C and I really dislike it. Great phone ruined with Snapdragon 810.
Some things are just unusable on this phone. Like WiFi hotspot with LTE. Phone turns it off automatically after a while since the phone gets too hot.
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I use my phone as a WiFi hotspot often and have never had it turn off by itself so don't make an assumption all of them will do it.
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I use my phone as a WiFi hotspot often and have never had it turn off by itself so don't make an assumption all of them will do it.
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You tried with multiple connections and 150 Mb/s LTE and tried downloading something over a few minutes with it?
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You tried with multiple connections and 150 Mb/s LTE and tried downloading something over a few minutes with it?
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No, I wouldn't know where to find 150 Mbps LTE. I use it like I imagine most people do, with one or two devices to access various web sites. I do stream Youtube with it and have not had any problems. Yours sounds like a special use case.
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No, I wouldn't know where to find 150 Mbps LTE. I use it like I imagine most people do, with one or two devices to access various web sites. I do stream Youtube with it and have not had any problems. Yours sounds like a special use case.
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Yeah sorry if I was vague about the issue. But yeah light use is no problem. But my previous phone had no issues with this kind of usage.
Perhaps I'll need to root and downclock or something when using this for that purpose.

Redmi note 3 Pro (Snap650) - value for money?

Hi
I am Nexus 4 user - great phone with lot of great ROMs available here, great performance and good size - but battery is no longer big enough to match my needs. So I am looking for a new phone and ran into Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro.
There is a lot of positive comments about this device, but also quite a lot of drawbacks - no 800MHZ band, problems with microphone/speaker, some battery performance issues... So, is there any better choice in that kind of money? I am looking for something with big battery to be able to do something more than 2-2,5h of WEB vieweing... I am not playing games, apps that I am using are not really demanding ones. My other thought is Asus Zenfone Max - but Redmi Note 3 PRO looks much better while comparing some statistics.
So, any other thoughts? I would be grateful for all responses and advices
If you need 800mhz try: http://www.geekbuying.com/item/-HK-...OTG-Fast-Charge-Gyroscope---Black-367828.html
I have no issues with battery or speaker. 800mhz isn't the end of the world unless you 100% need it
If you can live without 800mhz and bad low light camera, nothing can beat this device value. Battery and performance is among the best you can get today.
I never have those mic/speaker/battery/performance issues.
Hello, I received my RN3 Pro yesterday and I have to say it's freakin amazing. A definite upgrade from Nexus 4(I came from a Moto G2, and before that Nexus 4). I charged it to 100% yesterday and it gave me 7.5hrs SOT till 1pm today, which is frankly mind blowing for two reasons,
1) More than 4hrs SOT ftw
2) I played around 1hr of Pokemon go ( continuously uses 3G and GPS) and still managed 7hrs sot.
So yes, you'll easily get >3hrs of web viewing. The one issue I found however is that the phone makes a hissing sound when connected to AUX cable, many people have this problem and are saying it's software related, so maybe there will be a fix. Secondly on very low volume with earphones,(step 1-3) you can hear a noticeable hissing sound which I'm pretty sure is software related, but it's not a deal breaker. The drawback of the Asus I feel is that there's no rom support, not as good specs as the RN3. RN3 has a snapdragon 650 which is basically an improved version of last year's flagship SoC. Also, build quality is amazing on the RN3. MIUI is a great feature packed rom!
So basically I definitely recommend the RN3, the battery life is going to definitely make you very happy ��
Yes definitely,its a beast and even I came from mako to this phone .I've to say I'm amazed by its battery and performance.really so fast the custom ROM development is awesome for this phone.. definitely a good choice to buy this phone for such a low cost..!
Thank You very much for all answers
Yeah, I think I can live without 800mhz, for taking good photos in every occasion I have other more specialized devices
I just ordered 2/16 version

NotebookCheck Axon 7 European review

Here's the full detail review of European Axon 7.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/ZTE-Axon-7-Smartphone-Review.182649.0.html
Pro
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Android 6.0
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QHD AMOLED panel
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USB Type-C
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fingerprint scanner
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very good camera module
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very high performance
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no throttling
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superb Dolby Surround sound
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Quick Charge feature
Cons
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Unusual MiFavor 4.0 UI
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USB 2.0 speed only
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PWM flickering
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non-removable battery
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only mediocre battery life
Verdict
In review: ZTE Axon 7. Review sample courtesy of Notebooksbilliger.de.
ZTE has not promised too much: The Axon 7 easily matches upper-range smartphones, such as Samsung's Galaxy S7 even if it ultimately cannot quite pull level to such devices. ZTE's smartphone does not have the final feature polishing for this - a faster USB port, larger internal storage, and wireless charging function would have led to a slightly higher rating. However, this does not at all lessen the superb configuration and performance package that the user gets with the Axon 7.
ZTE's Axon 7 is not only a worthy opponent for high-end smartphones such as Samsung's Galaxy S7, it also convinces with its outstanding Dolby surround sound.
We particularly liked the high-quality casing, sharp QHD panel, very good camera module, and the more than sufficient performance for every smartphone situation in the test. And everyone looking for a smartphone with a really good sound will simply have to take ZTE's Axon 7 because it acoustically outruns its rivals by miles with its Dolby-Atmos sound.
ZTE's Axon 7 also has to accept criticism although there is not very much to reproach. Some users might not like the looks of the MiFavor 4.0 user interface - but the looks can be changed to almost look like stock Android via an app. A faster USB port would have suited the Axon 7 well, just like a somewhat better battery life and a removable battery.
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I am bemused by the battery comments....
In my experience battery is outstanding.
Axon 7 has USB 3.0 not 2.0. So that is wrong in the review. I got 80MB/s transfer speeds from the phone to my laptop.
I can't say that is outstanding but is in really good level for his price category.
S7 Edge and P9 Plus has better battery life for 5.5" inches device.
Filiprino said:
Axon 7 has USB 3.0 not 2.0. So that is wrong in the review. I got 80MB/s transfer speeds from the phone to my laptop.
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Me too being surprised since according to ZTE is USB C 3.0 generation.
But hey ZTE mention that the battery capacity is 3250 and real one is 3140.
So maybe the actual speed of the USB C port is USB 2.0 level and not 3.0/3.1.
Keep in mind not all USB C is 3/3.1 certified.
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I'm sorry i have had both s7 edge and p9 plus. The battery life is better than the s7 edge and at least on par if not better than the p9 plus. I am a power user and i get a full day without problem.
The only thing i don't like about this phone is the weight. The phone feels heavy for 1 handed use. Compared to all other phones i have used, this phone is definitely heavier than Ali of them including the note series.
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alom5 said:
I'm sorry i have had both s7 edge and p9 plus. The battery life is better than the s7 edge and at least on par if not better than the p9 plus. I am a power user and i get a full day without problem.
The only thing i don't like about this phone is the weight. The phone feels heavy for 1 handed use. Compared to all other phones i have used this phone is definitely heavier than Ali of them including the note series.
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I'm too having both S7 edge and Axon 7(I'm still using both phone) and with Samsung I'm having 1-1.5 hours more SOT.
Axon 7 I can say is identical to flat S7 on battery life,not Edge.
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Good review, in depth and that's what we like !
Altough, as said above, not too sure about their USB testing and battery results...
I'm getting USB 3.0 speed at home, tested with a single 5030 Mo file :
SSD => Axon 7 : ~33.5 seconds --> ~150 Mo/s
Axon 7 => SSD : ~63.5 seconds --> ~79.2 Mo/s
And battery life is neither spectacular not mediocre. Iit is average for this kind of battery in this kind of smartphone.
djona12 said:
Good review, in depth and that's what we like !
Altough, as said above, not too sure about their USB testing and battery results...
I'm getting USB 3.0 speed at home, tested with a single 5030 Mo file :
SSD => Axon 7 : ~33.5 seconds --> ~150 Mo/s
Axon 7 => SSD : ~63.5 seconds --> ~79.2 Mo/s
And battery life is neither spectacular not mediocre. Iit is average for this kind of battery in this kind of smartphone.
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To be fair I haven't tested the USB C speed but I will do that.
Actually if you read carefully is saying that is good to average level.
"the battery runtimes range from "good" to "average".
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about the battery life... couple days ago I was driving with GPS (here maps to be exact) for 5+ hours, screen always on, audiobook playing through Bluetooth, and after trip I had about 35% battery left, if that's not impressive I don't know what is.
paatha13 said:
To be fair I haven't tested the USB C speed but I will do that.
Actually if you read carefully is saying that is good to average level.
"the battery runtimes range from "good" to "average".
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Yeah, I read that but it doesn't matter what they say in the full review. What matters is the plus an cons summary. It's what people remember the most.
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Yeah, I read that but it doesn't matter what they say in the full review. What matters is the plus an cons summary. It's what people remember the most.
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Yes indeed but to my personal view the camera performance is not as good in real life compared to NotebookCheck results("very good camera module" at Pro) especially low light shoots performance is mediacore at best.
Also video recording at low light conditions is far from ideal.
So at "Pro"they overestimate camera performance and on "Cons" on battery life underestimated the real one performance.
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I continue to think ZTE's quality control is uneven. I found the camera and LTE reception very poor and sent mine back. Looking back at my pictures I took over those 3 weeks, the Axon 7 photos really stick out as very poor (compared to Nexus 6p and Honor 7) . Battery life however was superb, best I've ever had, with effortless 5h30 sot.
djona12 said:
Good review, in depth and that's what we like !
Altough, as said above, not too sure about their USB testing and battery results...
I'm getting USB 3.0 speed at home, tested with a single 5030 Mo file :
SSD => Axon 7 : ~33.5 seconds --> ~150 Mo/s
Axon 7 => SSD : ~63.5 seconds --> ~79.2 Mo/s
And battery life is neither spectacular not mediocre. Iit is average for this kind of battery in this kind of smartphone.
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It is AMOLED, so it will be average for near white content with high APL (>80%) but very good for video with average to low APL (40% or lower). Like on Samsung phones it really depends on usage. The standby or call time is very good. Also when used at home the high contrast means people can use the phone close to minimum brightness a lot of the time, so it really helps. You really only see a strong depletion in the sun while browsing near white content (e.g. browsing or texting).
why none of you can not complain about the quality of the audio on the headphones? According to me this is the biggest disappointment of this model in the European version.
Han85PL said:
why none of you can not complain about the quality of the audio on the headphones? According to me this is the biggest disappointment of this model in the European version.
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can't complain, have European version. quality on headphones is great.
Han85PL said:
why none of you can not complain about the quality of the audio on the headphones? According to me this is the biggest disappointment of this model in the European version.
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First of all post your used headphones, software setup and music file info, then your expectations and where you see the peoblem.
Plus, what did you expect? Quality on the level of 200€ dedicated computer soundcards a la xonar essence st in a 400€ MOBILE device?
I except unit that will sound better on stock then HTC m7. I heard that A2017u model sound a lot better, louder and powerful than eu model. And for that difference I'm angry about. Eu is very quiet.
Han85PL said:
I except unit that will sound better on stock then HTC m7. I heard that A2017u model sound a lot better, louder and powerful than eu model. And for that difference I'm angry about. Eu is very quiet.
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I listen on stock and it's loud. I never had a need to go for 90-100% volume, that is too loud.
turn off Dolby and change HiFi setting to Super if you havent somehow done that already.

Thinking of replacing S9+ with OnePlus 6T what is the suggestion?

I own a Galaxy S9 plus about two month..
But I'm already very disappointed....
Below average camera (worse than Poco F1)..
No stable Pai update after 4 month(OnePlus 6, 6t, essential phone, mate 20, p20, mi 8, Poco f1, xperia xz 2 & a lot more already have pai)....
Now want to switch to OnePlus 6T...
I know I'll miss Dolby Atmos , the screen for sure..
If any one have any suggestions please help me..
First of all, if your phone camera is worse than Poco's camera, something is wrong.
Second, the only thing you will gain is speed. OnePlus is more responsive compared to our phone. But that's it.
Our S9+ can easily do +6h of SOT, has headphone jack, better screen, better build quality (although OPs also do a good job on this category), better camera, Samsung Experience is full of customization options (Oxygen OS is getting there too).
The only downside of a Samsung phone, in general, is the waiting time for the updates arrive. But that's not a deal breaker for me at least.
I would advise you to keep the S9+ for now and get the new OnePlus next year, with SD855.
I would vote for keeping the S9+ as well. I had the 6T before, but I had to send it back because it kept dropping the LTE connection to the tower by my house. Of course getting the newest Android versions is nice, but a lot of times there are bugs when you get them that soon anyway. Also the only thing I could think of that made Pie worth the wait was that you could replace the navbar with gestures. Other than that the S9+ feels more premium, and like you said you have Atmos, the wonderful screen, etc. The 6T was definitely snappy but lag does not seem to me to be an issue on the S9+.
Just keep the s9+. You'll get the android pie (pai?) update in january with a brand new interface and it'll make your device much faster and more responsive. It's not worth losing all the s9+ features to the 6t.
If you are just after speed. Enable Game mode in device maintenance. It will become at least 25% due to more aggressive governor settings.
On the camera, i agree with above comments. If it is worse than poco 8n quality. Something really wrong with either the settings or hardware. Try a factory reset.
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First of all, if your phone camera is worse than Poco's camera, something is wrong.
Second, the only thing you will gain is speed. OnePlus is more responsive compared to our phone. But that's it.
Our S9+ can easily do +6h of SOT, has headphone jack, better screen, better build quality (although OPs also do a good job on this category), better camera, Samsung Experience is full of customization options (Oxygen OS is getting there too).
The only downside of a Samsung phone, in general, is the waiting time for the updates arrive. But that's not a deal breaker for me at least.
I would advise you to keep the S9+ for now and get the new OnePlus next year, with SD855.
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6hrs SOT? Are you kidding?. S9+ in normal usage can't get past 3-3.5hrs. 6hrs is possible if you continuously watch videos and do nothing else. Otherwise it's a myth.
belic said:
6hrs SOT? Are you kidding?. S9+ in normal usage can't get past 3-3.5hrs. 6hrs is possible if you continuously watch videos and do nothing else. Otherwise it's a myth.
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Definitely not a myth, I can confirm that 6 hrs of SOT is indeed possible.
Look, if your camera is worse then poco you have problem with the devices or with the eyes
I bought that phone 3 weeks after it's came out and I'm totally happy with it, especially from the camera, so much that my sis ,parents and few friends saw the photos and videos and bought the plus version a mouth later and they still thank me for the right choise of device
as we all know, there is no perfect phone yet, the bad things that the s9/+ for my opinion have is the small battery and the annoying edges. the screen look fu**ing amazing but the edge are cause the expience from my pov. of course the slow updates but that is samsung, always was, they have big UI to upgrade every android new version, the most chinese companies have more clean android experience so less work on every build.
the 1+6t is amazing phone in good price, it's faster and smoother thanks for the clean UI and 8gb ram at some models, but the screen is not good as ours, our camera is better, I think also that the 1+6t has mono speaker so the sound is worse.
In fact, what you think to do is to transfer from premium amazign high quality device to good device, if you have in your pocket s7, or any old device the 1+6t is good choise, but here you downgrade yourself.
My advice is to compare your s9 photos with friend who have that phone too or here and see if your camera work properly, and if not go to the warranty.
sorry for poor english, I'm working on it :silly:
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Definitely not a myth, I can confirm that 6 hrs of SOT is indeed possible.
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Again I said 6hrs is possible if you watch only videos. For a normal usage person, 6hrs is not possible.
belic said:
Again I said 6hrs is possible if you watch only videos. For a normal usage person, 6hrs is not possible.
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2 days of use, see the apps that are used, videos watched only for 1 hour during that period. Oreo exynos btw.
And with stable Pie seeding as of yesterday, you know my answer - keep the s9+!
belic said:
6hrs SOT? Are you kidding?. S9+ in normal usage can't get past 3-3.5hrs. 6hrs is possible if you continuously watch videos and do nothing else. Otherwise it's a myth.
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Look man, I use my phone with Bluetooth enable 100% of the time because I use with a Gear S3.
Data is enabled for at least 8 hours when I'm working, like it was yesterday.
I use my phone mostly for web browsing, Facebook, watch videos and listen to music (online music).
I get 6h~7h SOT constantly
If your phone can't do at least 6h SOT on mixed usage, I suggest you to go to a Samsung Repair Center and check it out what's wrong with your phone.
Btw, mine is a Snapdragon G9650.
belic said:
6hrs SOT? Are you kidding?. S9+ in normal usage can't get past 3-3.5hrs. 6hrs is possible if you continuously watch videos and do nothing else. Otherwise it's a myth.
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What
It's very easy to do 6 hours-7 hours SOT on S9+
I don't know if your using a Exynos
Mine a snapdragon
But even with using mobile data for around 2-3 hours i can easily get 6 hours
I have set my screen resolution to WQHD+ too
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Again I said 6hrs is possible if you watch only videos. For a normal usage person, 6hrs is not possible.
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It's definitely possible. Maybe you need to replace your battery? I've attached some screenshots as proof.
I acually switched to a OP6T with a guy in my city and i got back to him after 2 days and would like to change back. As happy i was when i got it back he accepted the return again. Got my S9+ back and im happy. No notification LED on the 6T is a dealbreaker for me, i use it everyday on my S9+. I tested some apps that would replace the use of an Notification LED but it would not strike me enough. I read that people does simply not care about notification LED anymore beacuse the phone has an Ambient display, as silly verison of an always on display for me, like really the phone does not even have real always on display, only Ambient display. (tested rooting it and installing OP6s always on display ZIP, as it was the only one available and it is awful. OnePlus them self removed their Always on Display in a couple betas back, replacing it with Ambient display, stupid move. Worked perfectly on my old OP5 before it broke) No headphone jack is also a really bruh OnePlus, bragging on it a year ago when Apple removed it and now they did it. I have a pair of Bluetooth earphones but as the battery runs out i always switch to my Beats earphones, i KNOW that OnePlus provides a dongle with it but me not digging the red color at all and as it feels like it will break after one day of use of dragging it around. (as the cable is thin) I would still credit OnePlus for their operating system being much more nicer than Samsungs. (menys, app designs, all around simpler design in my opinion) The speed is also real and the performance/battery life is quite impressive compared to my S9+ as the price. Also dash charge! I wanted to switch to OP6T beacuse of the performance and battery life. Also me seeing the S9+ as an photograpy phone was not my intend in the beginning, but i must say when i take a photo(not often at all) it takes stunning pictures, both in lowlight and normal day use. I bought it when it came out as a new daily driver with speed and performance and was a bit disappointed with the speed/performance/battery and still is, but switching from it to an phone without an Notification LED and headphone jack i forgot how much i use them daily. Will keep my S9+ until it breaks a probably buy a OP6.
No way...u shud do it other way round...dumped my 6 and s9 plus is different league...
I have the 6T and my wife has the S9+. Her camera is way better than my 6T camera. Her S9+ has a much nicer screen. My 6T feels more responsive. Overall, I think the S9+ is a better phone, but the 6T is better value for the money. If you already have the S9+, I would stick with it.
Install package disabler and disable all the extra function you're not getting on OP 6T. Just as fast. With s9+, you're getting so much function than vanilla. It's the extra flavor that I like. But if you are into vanilla, then OP 6T is the way.
Personal note: I really love the motion photo.
crossdeath said:
It's definitely possible. Maybe you need to replace your battery? I've attached some screenshots as proof.
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Mine is an exynos. I bought in July 2018 and since then I have never achieved even 5hrs.
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dxzdxz1 said:
Look man, I use my phone with Bluetooth enable 100% of the time because I use with a Gear S3.
Data is enabled for at least 8 hours when I'm working, like it was yesterday.
I use my phone mostly for web browsing, Facebook, watch videos and listen to music (online music).
I get 6h~7h SOT constantly
If your phone can't do at least 6h SOT on mixed usage, I suggest you to go to a Samsung Repair Center and check it out what's wrong with your phone.
Btw, mine is a Snapdragon G9650.
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Mine is an exynos. Probably because of the CPU. Samsung cheated with exynos. I hope they scrap their exynos cpus
belic said:
Mine is an exynos. I bought in July 2018 and since then I have never achieved even 5hrs.
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Mine is an exynos. Probably because of the CPU. Samsung cheated with exynos. I hope they scrap their exynos cpus
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I have the exynos variant as well. Something may be wrong with your phone, try bringing it to a repair center and let them check it.
crossdeath said:
I have the exynos variant as well. Something may be wrong with your phone, try bringing it to a repair center and let them check it.
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Previous day's SOT is 3.5hrs.

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