As of Feb. 8/9 of 2017, it looks to me like my Tablet S, which came with 4.0.3 is no longer able to run Google apps. The tablet is still fine for other things, but the Chrome browser is on version 42 and can't be updated. Kinda sucks that one day it works, and the next it doesn't. It is still a fine tablet but much less useful to me without the Google apps. Some can still run in the browser, but it certainly is not as handy.
Hi,
I have the same issue. A couple of days ago (I think on 10.02.2017), all Google apps lost connection to 'mothership' on my STS . I've tried all potential fixes out there (clearing data, cache, uninstalling updates, re-installing updates, uninstalling Google Services, modifying hosts file, disabling two-step authentication etc.) - nothing works. I've made also a factory reset and up until the moment I download Google Services app, the connection is there. However, all new versions of Gapps require Google Services in order to run. So it's either running a couple years old versions or not having Gapps at all.
Is this some kind of intentional action on Google side? Or maybe some bug in Google Services app? I doubt many people here still use STS, but maybe there's hope that someone finds a solution to this issue?
m4q said:
Hi,
I have the same issue. A couple of days ago (I think on 10.02.2017), all Google apps lost connection to 'mothership' on my STS . I've tried all potential fixes out there (clearing data, cache, uninstalling updates, re-installing updates, uninstalling Google Services, modifying hosts file, disabling two-step authentication etc.) - nothing works. I've made also a factory reset and up until the moment I download Google Services app, the connection is there. However, all new versions of Gapps require Google Services in order to run. So it's either running a couple years old versions or not having Gapps at all.
Is this some kind of intentional action on Google side? Or maybe some bug in Google Services app? I doubt many people here still use STS, but maybe there's hope that someone finds a solution to this issue?
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Thanks for the reply. My belief is the Chrome browser cannot be updated on the version of Android it is running. That would mean to me that any other device running 4.0.3 is running Chrome 42, also, and nothing can be done. Sure would like to be wrong. I have plenty of options (toys), but I hate losing normal functions on an otherwise functional machine. It is 5 years old.
Thanks for starting this thread in the first place. Without it, I would still be wondering am I the only one with this issue .
I don't think it's connected solely to Chrome browser. From my point of view, it has something to do with google services. I've tried to revert to some older version (via APK mirror, but with no success). What's worse, now I can't even get into google play store (for a while I could, despite Gapps being down). Not sure what to do at this point. I've used my STS mostly for YT or some movie during travel. I guess I'm left with just the latter . Anyway, if it's not just a bug, then it's a really unfair move from google.
m4q said:
Thanks for starting this thread in the first place. Without it, I would still be wondering am I the only one with this issue .
I don't think it's connected solely to Chrome browser. From my point of view, it has something to do with google services. I've tried to revert to some older version (via APK mirror, but with no success). What's worse, now I can't even get into google play store (for a while I could, despite Gapps being down). Not sure what to do at this point. I've used my STS mostly for YT or some movie during travel. I guess I'm left with just the latter . Anyway, if it's not just a bug, then it's a really unfair move from google.
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I would bet I am correct, but...see which version of Android and the browser you are running and compare to what I reported. I was told the browser was no longer updateable with 4.0.3. The fact that it happened just as Google was announcing its new products is what led me to this conclusion.
You can still watch YouTube through the browser on your STS. I had mine on my bedstand with the dock so that I could watch in bed via Google Cast. Cast will not work because of this issue, even in the browser, because it is a newer app. So, I replaced it with my Nexus 7 2012, which also has a dock. Works fine, as would a phone or tablet.
These are my conclusions - if you find otherwise, please report back! :good:
Of course, I'm not 100% sure, but since I'm not using Chrome browser and still have this issue - wouldn't that indicate that it isn't a browser-related one? Plus, once you do a factory reset and not install Google Play Services, the connection to Google servers is being established. It's being lost after Google Play Services installation. That's what suggest to me that these services are indeed the culprit. In the end it doesn't really matter as whatever the culprit is, it doesn't look like we can solve this on our own .
m4q said:
Of course, I'm not 100% sure, but since I'm not using Chrome browser and still have this issue - wouldn't that indicate that it isn't a browser-related one? Plus, once you do a factory reset and not install Google Play Services, the connection to Google servers is being established. It's being lost after Google Play Services installation. That's what suggest to me that these services are indeed the culprit. In the end it doesn't really matter as whatever the culprit is, it doesn't look like we can solve this on our own .
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Not disagreeing. Just saying that if the browser can't be updated, then apps can't be either, perhaps for the reasons you state. Sorry for the confusion. I think we're looking at the same thing from different perspectives. Either way, I think the STS is de-Googled. It is a shame as I think it has been a really good machine for its specs. Time to repurpose it or just put it away.
Sad, but true . STS had its quirks, but it has been with me longer than any other equipment.
I won't hold my breath, but maybe next Google Play Services update or some other update could fix this issue. I'll let you know if I find something.
Cheers.
I got out another Android tablet (an Asus 2 in 1) that I was thinking of repurposing and found it had Android 4.0.3 and Google Play Services 10.2.98. There is no access to Google apps except the Play Store and the Chrome browser. I forgot to check which browser number it was but if I had to guess, it is 42. Since I had not been using it, I don't know when this access was taken away, but I'd think it was the same timeframe as the STS.
There are 2 seperate issues.
- Chrome browser does not update: this is normal (I think since quite some time), as the chrome browser does not support Android 4.0 anymore. Just download another browser.
- Since a short time (days, weeks) there are some issues with the google services. Youtube doesn't start, sync doesn't work. Google Photos cannot login. But the play store does work fine.
This problem occurs on 3 seperate tablets, all with different google logins and configurations. I also tried resetting to factory state on one tablet, with the same results.
This is not because of android 4.0, because I have other devices that are older (even 2.3) that still work fine. There is probably a Google-Service update that does not play nicely with the tablet S (or maybe even other tegra 2 chipsets).
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FYI:
It is indeed an incompatability between the latest Google-Services and Tegra2 chip.
All Tegra2 devices seems to be impacted, including the devices that are updateable to a newer version of android.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false
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There are 2 seperate issues.
- Chrome browser does not update: this is normal (I think since quite some time), as the chrome browser does not support Android 4.0 anymore. Just download another browser.
- Since a short time (days, weeks) there are some issues with the google services. Youtube doesn't start, sync doesn't work. Google Photos cannot login. But the play store does work fine.
This problem occurs on 3 seperate tablets, all with different google logins and configurations. I also tried resetting to factory state on one tablet, with the same results.
This is not because of android 4.0, because I have other devices that are older (even 2.3) that still work fine. There is probably a Google-Service update that does not play nicely with the tablet S (or maybe even other tegra 2 chipsets).
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FYI:
It is indeed an incompatability between the latest Google-Services and Tegra2 chip.
All Tegra2 devices seems to be impacted, including the devices that are updateable to a newer version of android.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false
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Thanks for the info! I will keep looking at the various sites to see if a fix for the Tegra devices comes out, but I'm not counting on it. Again, everything by Google but the Chrome browser and the Play Store seem to be affected, so the main reason I use Google is gone for two devices. If it isn't a Google app, they do work. YouTube works in the browser, but not Cast, etc. Hulu works.
I have other tablets and phones that have ARM processors, so I don't need to buy anything, but it is disappointing that they screwed up two good Google devices I have, one being in use everyday until it happened. That reminds me, I have a Chromebook with a Tegra chip - I'll have to check on that...updating from 59..0.2924.87 to...56.0.2924.110 - no problems. This is a Samsung XE303C12.
Thanks a lot spicyalan for the info about all Tegra2 devices being affected.
I've just installed Google Play Services version 10.5.42 (beta) and it seems to have solved the issue . At least I can use Gmail and YT freely, without crashes or FCs.
Afterwards, I have checked your link (https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false) and others have confirm this to be a working solution (at least for the time being).
Cheers!:good:
m4q said:
Thanks a lot spicyalan for the info about all Tegra2 devices being affected.
I've just installed Google Play Services version 10.5.42 (beta) and it seems to have solved the issue . At least I can use Gmail and YT freely, without crashes or FCs.
Afterwards, I have checked your link (https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false) and others have confirm this to be a working solution (at least for the time being).
Cheers!:good:
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Agreed, the 10.5.42 beta works on my Asus TF101 and my Sony Tablet S, both having Android 4.0.3.
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Hey there,
if you are still a regular user of the good old GTab 10.1 - like my GF - you might have encountered this issue recently too.
Google has updated and does remotely update your Play Store Service to a version which is not supported anymore by this tablet, or the other way around, the app does not support our hardware anymore and the service keeps crashing and crashing, same with Chrome and Maps as far as I know.
Well I first thought something is wrong with the ROM or Gapps so I looked for a recent unofficial ROM and found the [ROM][Unofficial][AOSP] Android 7.1.1 Nougat and there was stated:
Incompatible apps:
The following apps no longer support the hardware in this tablet. They will not work on any ROM for this device. There is no hack to make them work.
Apps that do not support this tablet:
Chrome 50+
Google Translate
Gboard 6.0.79
Maps 9.45
Google Play services 10.2
Apps based on Unity 5 engine
Last known compatible versions:
Chrome 49.0
Gboard 6.0.69
Maps 9.44
Google Play services 10.0.84
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Well I had a backup from 2015 on the GTab and restored it but immediately the service updated itself and it began to crash.
In the Above mentioned thread there was some1 writing
This worked for me (for disabling Google Play Services auto-update) :
- disconnect wifi
- disable auto-update apps in Google Play Store
- in Settings / Apps, GPS, 3-dots menu, Uninstall updates, so back to v10.0.84....
- in App info, Data usage, disable Unrestricted data usage
- reconnect wifi
Now GPS doesn't seem to auto-update anymore.
Best regards
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Sadly this does not seem to work for me. I was thinking about Titanium backup to freeze the GPS but I am not sure if this will work.
Also flashed manually a GApps Version which had the older play store in it but also got overwritten immediately
So have you encountered this issue and how did you fix it?
Thanks
Did you make sure to turn off auto update apps in Google Play store? That combined with the other steps listed worked for me and my Galaxy Tab play services has NOT updated... And it works fine, though it still occasionally crashes, but not every ten secons.
Thank you for this information. I've been banging my head on the wall for a few days while searching the cause.
I'm facing exactly the same problem.
I don't have the "Disable unrestricted data usage" option in Google Play Services Data Usage.
There is only "Restrict app background data", but this one doesn't prevent GPS from update.
In the next day GPS updates automatically to version 10.2.* and crushes.
have you tried this ? : https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/delete-disable-downgrade-prevent-update-t3091832
tl;dr create 2 folders at /data/app : com.google.android.gms-1.apk and com.google.android.gms-2.apk . Done that today, but still need to test on the long run.
I tried this and it worked - for a couple of days. Now some apps are complaining they are unlicensed
Well I was able to disable GPS completely but now, as stated above, apps are complaining and there are now no app updates availible and the complete store is disabled, not really what I was looking for. But I guess Google now really fu:cyclops::cyclops:ed us. So are we done with this tablet or what?
Not Dead Yet
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Well I was able to disable GPS completely but now, as stated above, apps are complaining and there are now no app updates availible and the complete store is disabled, not really what I was looking for. But I guess Google now really fu:cyclops::cyclops:ed us. So are we done with this tablet or what?
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My p4wifi is working fine on the latest 7.1.1 ROM and the older GApps. Disabling automatic updates in the Play Store keeps regular apps from updating when we don't want them to.
Disabling the background data settings in Apps.... Google Play Services... Settings keeps GPS from updating itself.
(I'm not sure that I made the settings change in Developer Options or not.)
It might be worth reading through the posts in the 7.1.1 thread.
I can afford a new tablet, but cannot find anything this size that keeps the ROM current with Google releases.
(I also do not play games or need esoteric applications.)
Don't give up yet.
Is this a solution?
https://www.xda-developers.com/unshackle-your-device-from-the-google-play-store-with-apkupdater/
I also deleted cacche from Gps & blocked the internet connection wth Afwall.
Tried the solution of lebaronrouge in 5.1.1 rom topic.
Seems to work.
Hi. has given me a familiar one redmi note 2 which gets too hot on the upper back, and works very slow opening apps and in any action. I installed a global rom fastboot and it works just as slow. I've passed Antutu and it gives me 54,000 points, which makes me doubt if it's a software or hardware problem. What do you think about it?
I have the same problem from Yesterday with redmi note 2 prime
I flash so many roms and the slowliness happend only after gapps install o trying to run google apps.
Today i have the same problem. Its propably bug from google play because i cant open it.
It's google play services bug, find way to reset data of it and get it back to old version, install latest google play store from apk, add your google account back(should be all gone after resting services data) and after google services updates it should be fine. That's more or less how i did it.
Edit: For friend that's also using this old guy it fixed itself after letting phone stay and sync for about 20 minutes.
gumbi86 said:
It's google play services bug, find way to reset data of it and get it back to old version, install latest google play store from apk, add your google account back(should be all gone after resting services data) and after google services updates it should be fine. That's more or less how i did it.
Edit: For friend that's also using this old guy it fixed itself after letting phone stay and sync for about 20 minutes.
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It happened by itself. Patience is needed and external cooler is an option to reduce the heat.
Thank you!
gumbi86 said:
It's google play services bug, find way to reset data of it and get it back to old version, install latest google play store from apk, add your google account back(should be all gone after resting services data) and after google services updates it should be fine. That's more or less how i did it.
Edit: For friend that's also using this old guy it fixed itself after letting phone stay and sync for about 20 minutes.
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Thanks for answering. I have the last global rom. It does not let me uninstall play store. How can I uninstall it? And what version should I install and where do I download it from?
Same problem here. After factory reset there is no problem but after I update Google Play Services problems are back. Endless sync, not working Google Play store (stays blank and not showing any apps), Chrome not loading pages, huge battery drain on google play services. Nothing helps for me. Did you guys managed to get normal working phone?
This problem seems to affect only mobile phones with mediatek processor and not just xiaomi, also to other brands.
I have left the phone whole night syncing. Did not help at all...
Keeps forever in notifications: Current syncing item: Google Play services.
thrillseeker said:
I have left the phone whole night syncing. Did not help at all...
Keeps forever in notifications: Current syncing item: Google Play services.
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Go to Installed apps find Google Play Store and Uninstall updates, then let it sync. It should work that way.
Someone actually found a solution to this issue:
1. Go to Phone Settings
2. Next Accounts
3. Choose Google
4. Then click Manage your Google Account
5. There will be a white screen - here at this step we just wait until the screen comes to life (about 5-10 minutes)
6. Enjoy!
Here's the source: https://support.google.com/googleplay/forum/AAAA8CVOtD8gDLDqOY20DM/?hl=en
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Someone actually found a solution to this issue:
1. Go to Phone Settings
2. Next Accounts
3. Choose Google
4. Then click Manage your Google Account
5. There will be a white screen - here at this step we just wait until the screen comes to life (about 5-10 minutes)
6. Enjoy!
Here's the source: https://support.google.com/googleplay/forum/AAAA8CVOtD8gDLDqOY20DM/?hl=en
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Thanks! This works!!
!....Solved.....!
WOW.....It totally worked for me. Thank you very much.
How?
I think I am just being dumb, but I cannot find this in the settings. I am on MIUI 9. Where did you find this?
Yes this works, big thanks!!! But on the new update of Google play services from yesterday I got the same bug. So we will need to do this every time when there is update for Google play services