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Hey guys,
since I got my OnePlus 3 and changed to CM13 Rom (Android 6.0.1) the camera isn't that good.
Also the Oxygen Camera isn't the best regarding to the less setting options.
Since I ever wondered which might be the best android camera app I now decided to start this thread.
I've searched for hours and informed me about the topic as good as I could but without any acceptable results.
What do I especially mean with "best camera app"?
It's not those nonsense features like filters or something that I need.
I am searching for a camera app which main feature is really based on taking photos in best quality
and having most possible setting options in order to that.
The best result I found seems to be the Camera FV-5
Do you have camera apps for android which are even better?
Thanks in advance, guys
- skrippi
i simply use candy for selfies
I know this is a bit late, but have you tried Open Camera? It's a great open source camera that has many features to control, such as fixed/auto focus, iso, resolution, timer, burst, white balance, scenes, color effects, shooting in raw, exposure bracketing for HDR, and more.
Hi!
I am planing on buying this phone (currently have a S5 that's beginning to show it's age) and would really like to know if poco has a working (and tested) RAW photo support. This is something I actually miss the most with my S5 camera. Can someone with a GCam please check and ideally upload a low light high ISO DNG sample photo?
If anyone is wondering what's the use of RAW, with all the hassle (beware, technical details ahead, possibly even a bit of math!):
Access to the RAW sensor data is extremely powerful. When doing a night time photography you can get significantly better results by manually lowering the ISO and bumping the exposure but in truly low light that's not enough. You then take dozens of 30s exposures and add them together. The problem is that if you are working with JPEGs, it doesn't really work for extremely low signals. If there is a light source in your image that even after 30s exposure does not expose a pixel enough to bump the value from 0 to 1, with the added noise reduction it gets rounded to 0 every time, so adding zeroes gets you nowhere. On the other hand, if there is a significant noise in your sensor, that's actually in this case extremely helpful. By adding the photos that have a very low signal (below a normal detection threshold) but also a significant noise, you can remove the noise and still get the signal that has 'piggybacked' on the noise above the pixel threshold. Doing this, if you have the patience, basically makes your photos limited only by the 12MP sensor resolution and the lens quality. The quality of the sensor, it's dynamic range and noise level becomes completely irrelevant and you can basically simulate an 'ideal' sensor with arbitrarily large dynamic range and sensitivity and arbitrarily low noise. You should, for example, be able to do astrophotography and photograph objects that are too dim to be visible with a naked eye, beyond what even dSLRs can manage without these kinds of tricks.
With the very fast CPU and plentiful RAM you could even possibly automate this tedious process on the phone itself (for example by the use of CLI linux raw photo manipulation tools installed through termux or linuxdeploy) so it could be as simple as putting a phone on a tripod (or a sky tracking mount), starting a simple script and waiting for half an hour while the phone takes and processes the photos.
With access to the still linear RAW pixel data, you can even use the camera as a 'scientific' sensor in, for example, a cheap portable spectroscope. The possibilities are endless
Yes, I am well aware that I am weird
yup you can. also you can install 3rd party app and camera2 api is enabled by default no need to root and bootloader unlock for that.
Secondly camera is super awesome.
i can you lead to telegram group where people share their photoshots done on poco f1. you will get the idea
The gcam is one option for you to capture raw images but it does not support manual mode so you cannot get those long exposure raw images to talked about. What you can do is get a camera app that supports both raw images capturing and manual mode like proshot or manual camera
Very cool, thank you both! It would be great if someone could upload an actual DNG file taken with the poco and an app that also supports manual exposure. I am curious if the cli programs will recognise the format.
dsvilko said:
Very cool, thank you both! It would be great if someone could upload an actual DNG file taken with the poco and an app that also supports manual exposure. I am curious if the cli programs will recognise the format.
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well manual mode is supported by default camera, but it doesn't have any option for RAW output.
my best pick will be open camera application.
what you recommend for both raw and manual mode
I've shot some raw photos using latest GCAM. However I don't know any apps for RAW files editing in phone. And I Didn't get time to check their quality on Photoshop. RAW files size is around 15Mb. I can send you those photos if you want to check.
That would be great if the DNG format is the same as the one the other apps (that have also manual support) produce. Can you send it to my gmail (same username)? Thanks.
dsvilko said:
That would be great if the DNG format is the same as the one the other apps (that have also manual support) produce. Can you send it to my gmail (same username)? Thanks.
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I love astronomy and I am very interested in an app that would let us get raw format images and also have the manual mode. Did anyone know any app that can let us do that?
Thanks in advance
Manual camera app supports both RAW and manual controls. I haven't yet found an app that also supports intervalometer.
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Manual camera app supports both RAW and manual controls. I haven't yet found an app that also supports intervalometer.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
Gcam with manual controls does exist you know. Just get gcam with mods or from sannnity. These have manual control which can control ISO from 100 to 6400, shutter time from 1s to 32s (nothing shorter than 1s) and manual focus control. They can save it in raw.
FreeDCam also supports both manual controls and RAW.
To edit RAW images on the phone, use google snapseed app.
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Gcam with manual controls does exist you know. Just get gcam with mods or from sannnity. These have manual control which can control ISO from 100 to 6400, shutter time from 1s to 32s (nothing shorter than 1s) and manual focus control. They can save it in raw.
FreeDCam also supports both manual controls and RAW.
To edit RAW images on the phone, use google snapseed app.
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Can you please tell me how to add Sannity mods in gcam?
just create a folder named gcam in this another named configs
in the configs folder place all the gcam configs xml files
to apply these double tap the black space near the shutter white button to load the configs
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Can you please tell me how to add Sannity mods in gcam?
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Go in the mods section of Poco f1 on xda and you'll find a thread started by sannity. Download his gcam.
Hi everybody. I've tested many version of gcam for the find x2 lite and the only who work very well ( with HDR++ and night mode) is the last version of urnyx. Here https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/cfiles/gcm1/GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v2.0.apk. i have changed the setting in the advanced parameters / library) shadows at 10 and hilights to 25. For the main camera i've changed sharpness to 1,25, noise reduc to 0,875 . Choose google white balance on the first menu and imx586 in parameters. Only main camera works. You can also use the opporeno2byFlo xml, in the list of configs. It's the same story. Flo7591
What advantages are there over the inbuilt cam ap ?
drcspynz said:
What advantages are there over the inbuilt cam ap ?
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Gcam= more details, natural contrast and naturals colors (with good setting). Better HDR and exposition and night mode. Day and night. If gcam ports are so popular on so many smartphone , that is the reason. Maybe except for the premium and expensive phone ?
The apk works perfectly with the settings you suggested, thanks a lot!
I'am tryind this version, there a lot of setting that we can use:
https://1-dontsharethislink.celsoazevedo.com/file/filesc/GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v2.1_Wichaya_V3.0.apk
but i have only this problem with a GOOGLE AWB in Automatic mode;
the skin of the person, with Google AWB, in Automatic, turns me yellow / orange. If I activate the GOOGLE AWB it becomes too "Cold". I change the to Pixel3 in Imx586 but never change. Is there any settings I can change? thanks
Yellow Skin .... in Auto GOOGLE AWB.
If you AWB ON or HDR+ PLUS .....the skin it's similar to naturale.
Anyone have some ideas to set up in AUTO , correctly? tnx
Now, the best Gcam I've tried for Find X2 Lite is:
MGC_8.1.101_A9_PV0i_libs (BSG, 23/02/2021)
* I haven't tried the most recent version (27/02/21)
The AWB works fairly good, with hdr mode activated, essential to avoid noise
Also includes the ultra wide angle camera, which works correctly and improves the native camera
Unlike the native camera, the ultra-wide angle camera allows zooming
The front camera also improves a lot compared to the native
A trick: a double clicking anywhere on the screen goes from angular to 2x
With Android 11 the ultra wide angle camera doesn't work
The stock camera app of Nord 2 is ****. It over processes the images and the photos don't look like they are taken from a 50MP camera.
Any suggestions on what to do or some good GCam you can suggest?
Some examples? High mp sensors suffer in low light and have a more shallow depth of field especially up close to subjects. An accurate AF lock is important because of the narrow DOF; example, always try to get a AF lock on the subject's closest eye when shooting a face.
Adjust your shooting style according to the camera's strengths and weaknesses. See as the camera sees not as your eyes see. Human vision has exponentially more processing power and an incredible imaging system more so than any camera.
I want a proper gcam version if available or any better alternative that stock.
Always disable HDR option and pictures will look a lot better (sadly the app doesn't remember this setting so you have to turn it off each time) . The HDR process in the Nord 2 is absolutely awful .
Download the first file in this link. Photos taken with the primary camera will be much better, though I don't think Night Sight works. https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-wichaya/f/dl5/
DISABLE HDR. It's a known issue.
But you can't disable HDR when taking photos directly in other apps (whatsapp, telegram, etc)? I had OP8T and it had same issue and I had returned it...
GCam won't give you 50MP. AFAIK the only way to get 50MP on stock Nord 2 is by using the Extra HD feature in the stock camera app.
I'm curious to know if people with rooted devices have this capability enabled in the API. Let us know please
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But you can't disable HDR when taking photos directly in other apps (whatsapp, telegram, etc)? I had OP8T and it had same issue and I had returned it...
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I don't think HDR and other processing options are enabled for 3rd party apps (same goes for the ultrawide lens, you can't use it in other apps) for me whatsapp and telegram pictures look good (but they are heavily compressed)
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GCam won't give you 50MP. AFAIK the only way to get 50MP on stock Nord 2 is by using the Extra HD feature in the stock camera app.
I'm curious to know if people with rooted devices have this capability enabled in the API. Let us know please
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50Mpx is available in some GCAm versions (Wichaya and Nikita if I remember correctly, BSG and Greatness don't have the full resolution option) , but the 50mpx full resolution of the sensor is totally useless (not only with the nord 2 , but generaly with all other phones) , 12mpx pixel bining gives you better image processing, less noise , etc... a quick look at the reviews explain very clearly why is not a good idea to use the full resolution (50, 108mpx etc...) of a phone sensor.
Personally I use the BSG 8.4 v10 version and pictures are great, Google HDR+ implementation give a lot better results than stock app
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50Mpx is available in some GCAm versions (Wichaya and Nikita if I remember correctly, BSG and Greatness don't have the full resolution option) , but the 50mpx full resolution of the sensor is totally useless
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Was this on stock or rooted? Btw for me the 4:1 binning is not something desirable since I stack very low light photos, run my own denoising and various other process. Hence why I need the full sensor data made available to apps like OpenCamera
Pouic said:
I don't think HDR and other processing options are enabled for 3rd party apps (same goes for the ultrawide lens, you can't use it in other apps) for me whatsapp and telegram pictures look good (but they are heavily compressed)
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Yes, IM apps do compress photos but that's different story than colour fidelity. In my time with 8T the colours in photo app and telegram/whatsapp were simply blown out of proportion: something normal-red in real life was glowing like burning Mars in 8T photos. After disabling HDR in camera app the photos looked ok (though still overprocessed hence IMHO OP3 photos looked better!) but in whatsapp/telegram I still had same issue with stupid extreme colours...
It seems that when the stock camera is in pro mode it does not apply Auto HDR to the JPEG image, whether it is told to save the jpeg only or RAW+jpeg. Is that the intended behavior? I agree that the raw needs to be left alone but not applying Auto HDR to the jpeg is disappointing, to say the least, particularly since pro mode is the only place to tame the overly saturated color rendition of the stock camera app.
Unfortunately it's intended behavior.
You can try Good Lock Camera Assistant and disable Scene Optimizer to tame the contrast in default mode.
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particularly since pro mode is the only place to tame the overly saturated color rendition of the stock camera app.
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You already answered your question about missing HDR in Pro mode. HDR does over saturate the colors.
Samsung should be embarrassed about this camera. OP, did you find a way to reduce saturation without losing HDR?
I tried GCam but half of the functionality doesn't work on S23 at present and I want my camera to be easy/reliable.
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Samsung should be embarrassed about this camera. OP, did you find a way to reduce saturation without losing HDR?
I tried GCam but half of the functionality doesn't work on S23 at present and I want my camera to be easy/reliable.
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I don't think that there is any.
You can go with camera mode, but the picture is overprocessed, and you cannot play with it much.
You can go with PRO mode, but you don't have HDR and therefore wide dynamic range.
You can go with ExpertRAW, but the processing of the pictures is somehow even worse than in the base camera app.
You can go with GCAM, but then you don't have access to greater resolution than 12 Mpix (as Samsung is not exposing API to 3rd party apps for 50Mpix and 200Mpix) and some of the features are not working that easily and video mode is limited (same reason as for 50/200 Mpix not available).
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I don't think that there is any.
You can go with camera mode, but the picture is overprocessed, and you cannot play with it much.
You can go with PRO mode, but you don't have HDR and therefore wide dynamic range.
You can go with ExpertRAW, but the processing of the pictures is somehow even worse than in the base camera app.
You can go with GCAM, but then you don't have access to greater resolution than 12 Mpix (as Samsung is not exposing API to 3rd party apps for 50Mpix and 200Mpix) and some of the features are not working that easily and video mode is limited (same reason as for 50/200 Mpix not available).
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Incredible that such a large company can make such a bad camera aftr like 15 years in the game.
mike freegan said:
Incredible that such a large company can make such a bad camera aftr like 15 years in the game.
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I agree. I use GCAM, but of course, it is not perfect. So many decisions in the camera department made by Samsung simply do not make sense to me...
The amazing thing is how bad the Fruit Cam has gotten too.