It seems xiaomi is punishing its users for unlocking the bootloader coz my device was bug/error free until i unlocked the bootloader and was FORCED to factory reset by the unlock tool.
1) gps hardly gets a fix now and it was working fine before unlocking bootloader!!!
2) security app now has one icon(game boost )!!!!
3) wireless display is laggy and choppy and it was working fine before unlocking the bootloader.
why cant xiaomi make a device as good as the mi max 1??!!!!
It seems like You have some sort of PARANOIA.
Everything works fine for us (others).
What? there are literally TWO popups that tell you unlocking will erase ALL DATA, not only that but they give a 5 second count down before you can dismiss them.... Test your gps outside to see with some app.
martinsskutans said:
It seems like You have some sort of PARANOIA.
Everything works fine for us (others).
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seems like you work for xiaomi or something coz not having issues with ur phone doesnt mean they dont exist!!
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What? there are literally TWO popups that tell you unlocking will erase ALL DATA, not only that but they give a 5 second count down before you can dismiss them.... Test your gps outside to see with some app.
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yes i read those popups but you cant unlock the bootloader without having a reset.....its forcing indirectly!
testing gps outside ......any device with gps onboard will get a fix outdoors!!!
my poco had a gps lock indoors in under 3 seconds before the Forced reset!!.
my 3 years old lenovo gets a fix in places where the poco doesnt!!.
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yes i read those popups but you cant unlock the bootloader without having a reset.....its forcing indirectly!
testing gps outside ......any device with gps onboard will get a fix outdoors!!!
my poco had a gps lock indoors in under 3 seconds before the Forced reset!!.
my 3 years old lenovo gets a fix in places where the poco doesnt!!.
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so if you dont want to lose your data backup before genius.
I had the GPS issue, I fixed it by disabling the battery saver feature for Google maps under Manage Apps.
Also had an issue when the phone was on 2G, so I forced it to only 3G/4G.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mashtips.com/get-stable-data-connection-android/amp/
This whole thread is so misleading and not true.
If you have issues I suggest you seek on the forums for help or change your thread.
Obviously unlocking the device you get informed not once, not twice but 3 times that the data will be deleted.
As for the rest of your issues it aint true in terms of triggered or punished by unlocking. Only feature that doesn't work is "find my device" by xiaomi meaning you can use Google option instead.
GPS locks on within 1-2 seconds if not quicker and yes my device is unlocked with magisk GPS optimization module also.
Change your header of this thread and state what you need help with instead.
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so if you dont want to lose your data backup before genius.
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what a stupid reply! I never mentioned anything about loosing data mr senior member!!
Zeggi said:
This whole thread is so misleading and not true.
If you have issues I suggest you seek on the forums for help or change your thread.
Obviously unlocking the device you get informed not once, not twice but 3 times that the data will be deleted.
As for the rest of your issues it aint true in terms of triggered or punished by unlocking. Only feature that doesn't work is "find my device" by xiaomi meaning you can use Google option instead.
GPS locks on within 1-2 seconds if not quicker and yes my device is unlocked with magisk GPS optimization module also.
Change your header of this thread and state what you need help with instead.
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yeah right,my thread is not true and so is the screenshot i attached!!!
my gps locked within the same 1-2 seconds before factory reset,now it hardly locks!!.
I didnt even flash any recovery or root for gods sake,my device is on stock global "stable" miui 9.6.25.
That's their new policy. Wipe data after every bootloader unlock. Sometimes try to search for it rather than sharing a source of confusion for other newbies.
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I had the GPS issue, I fixed it by disabling the battery saver feature for Google maps under Manage Apps.
Also had an issue when the phone was on 2G, so I forced it to only 3G/4G.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mashtips.com/get-stable-data-connection-android/amp/
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my gps hardly locks now even with gps test app so the issue isnt just with google maps.
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yeah right,my thread is not true and so is the screenshot i attached!!!
my gps locked within the same 1-2 seconds before factory reset,now it hardly locks!!.
I didnt even flash any recovery or root for gods sake,my device is on stock global "stable" miui 9.6.25.
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First, Learn how to read.
Secondly I didn't say your issues ain't real now did I.
Read your own header and understand what you are saying with that statement.
Oh yeah I've got an unlocked device. Guess what my security app works.
Again your header is misleading and so is the thread.
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Zeggi said:
First, Learn how to read.
Secondly I didn't say your issues ain't real now did I.
Read your own header and understand what you are saying with that statement.
Oh yeah I've got an unlocked device. Guess what my security app works.
Again your header is misleading and so is the thread.
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dude,read your own words...you wrote the thread is not true.
if you think the thread is misleading....go ahead and report it,I respect moderators. keep your criticism to urself if you cant help.
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That's their new policy. Wipe data after every bootloader unlock. Sometimes try to search for it rather than sharing a source of confusion for other newbies.
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well,they had the bootloader unlocking waiting period extended before and changed their policy back to 72 hours so policies arent concrete.
I dont mind doing a reset but to restore my device behaviour not to make it worse.my device was error free until i had the reset.
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well,they had the bootloader unlocking waiting period extended before and changed their policy back to 72 hours so policies arent concrete.
I dont mind doing a reset but to restore my device behaviour not to make it worse.my device was error free until i had the reset.
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Your at fault for going ahead with the bootloader unlock and expecting everything to work perfectly when you were warned of what could happen before proceeding.
Here is a snippet of the risks you accepted when using the unlock tool, taken from: https://c.mi.com/thread-1479882-1-0.html
Risks of unlocking Mi Devices?
- By unlocking the device you agree that this may bring changes to some parts of the system. These changes may damage the device.
- After the device is unlocked, it becomes less secure and more vulnerable to malware attacks, which may lead to the disclosure and loss of your private data.
- Some features which require high security level (e.g., Find device,banking apps, added-value services, etc.) will no longer be available.
So no Xiaomi is not punishing users at all, you just got unlucky.
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Your at fault for going ahead with the bootloader unlock and expecting everything to work perfectly when you were warned of what could happen before proceeding.
Here is a snippet of the risks you accepted when using the unlock tool, taken from: https://c.mi.com/thread-1479882-1-0.html
Risks of unlocking Mi Devices?
- By unlocking the device you agree that this may bring changes to some parts of the system. These changes may damage the device.
- After the device is unlocked, it becomes less secure and more vulnerable to malware attacks, which may lead to the disclosure and loss of your private data.
- Some features which require high security level (e.g., Find device,banking apps, added-value services, etc.) will no longer be available.
So no Xiaomi is not punishing users at all, you just got unlucky.
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the phone still has antivirus app within the security app and it gets regularly updated.
I didnt loose any data coz i had everything backedup on my pc.
features like find device,banking apps...etc are features i dont really need.
I guess my fault is that i didnt try the older version of unlock tool that i used with my still perfect mi max 1 which didnt do an obligatory factory reset.
So if those are the risks forewarned by xiaomi before letting you unlock your device, how is this punishing the user? ?
Just wonder, if you go for another factory reset now, will the problem exist again?
Have you install twrp?If yes, try wipe data there.
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For those who are bothered by the whispers of the QFUSE blowing with a Unlocked or Locked Bootloader :
You can :
Unlock and Re-lock the Bootloader with the stock out the box - The QFuse will say ENABLED
Wipe the system Partition - AKA no android OS installed and Lock and Re-lock - The QFuse will say ENABLED
Flash the Factory images Manually ( Boot / Bootloader / Radio / System / Userdata / Cache / Vendor ) - The QFuse will say ENABLED
The Finger Print Scanner IS NOT disabled with an unlocked boot loader or Rooting.
Current root has allowed me to run - Adblock plus and Root Explorer ( paid )
Flashed TWRP and rooted and left bootloader unlocked Qfuse is still enabled.
what happens when you unlock and flash a custom recovery?
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The QFuse is actually an array of different bits that control several different things on the device. In this case, we're talking about the Qualcomm secure boot fuse, which is actually blown at the factory (hence it always being enabled) to prevent an insecure bootloader from being run. It does not track any modifications to the phone other than that, so whatever you decide to do, the bootloader will always read the same thing. I think people are confusing this with Samsung Knox, which is specifically made for tracking modifications and storing them for warranty purposes.
I found this information that's a couple years old, but presumably still accurate:
Much of Qualcomm's security architecture is implemented using QFuses, which are software-programmable fuses that allow one-time configuration of device settings and cryptographic materials such as hashes or keys. Because of their physical nature, once a QFuse has been blown, it is impossible to "unblow" it to revert its original value.
If the FORCE_TRUSTED_BOOT QFuse is blown, as is the case on all production Motorola devices, each stage of the boot chain is cryptographically verified to ensure only authorized bootloader stages may be run. In particular, the PBL ("Primary Bootloader"), which resides in mask ROM, verifies the integrity of the SBL1 ("Secondary Bootloader") via a SHA1 hash. Each stage of the boot chain verifies the next stage using RSA signatures, until finally Motorola's APPSBL ("Application Secondary Bootloader"), "MBM", is loaded and run.
http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html
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So, as kibmikey1 says, it would seem the Qfuse has nothing to do with unlocking the bootloader. It's just a way to set cryptographic keys in the hardware for verifying the authenticity of the bootloader, in a manner that makes it impossible to change the keys. In other words, once the fuse is blown the keys can't phyically be changed or overwritten. Presumably Google has the key and can sign new bootloader images correctly, so that when there is an update to the bootloader it will be verified properly by the chipset.
One has to wonder, how did the rumor start about the Qfuse being a way of tracking bootloader unlocks?
cb474 said:
I found this information that's a couple years old, but presumably still accurate:
So, as kibmikey1 says, it would seem the Qfuse has nothing to do with unlocking the bootloader. It's just a way to set cryptographic keys in the hardware for verifying the authenticity of the bootloader, in a manner that makes it impossible to change the keys. In other words, once the fuse is blown the keys can't phyically be changed or overwritten. Presumably Google has the key and can sign new bootloader images correctly, so that when there is an update to the bootloader it will be verified properly by the chipset.
One has to wonder, how did the rumor start about the Qfuse being a way of tracking bootloader unlocks?
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The Internet that's why, people who are afraid of trying to root who don't know anything spread the rumors.
Deemed as a good excuse not to root or scare others off.
Have you tried to use Android Pay while rooted? Curious if it really does cause the cards not to read (since a workaround is needed to even add cards to begin with)
I'm curious about just unlocking the bootloader and the status of Android Pay?
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Anyone's Nexus imprint flaky after bootloader unlock? About 80% of the time when I place my finger on the sensor, it wakes up to the lock screen (waiting for pin code I set up). Other times it wakes/unlocks to home screen. The only thing I have done is unlocked the bootloader and installed my apps via play store..
I have even started to disable apps that could interfere like Cerberus, but it does not seem to have any affect..
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Anyone's Nexus imprint flaky after bootloader unlock? About 80% of the time when I place my finger on the sensor, it wakes up to the lock screen (waiting for pin code I set up). Other times it wakes/unlocks to home screen. The only thing I have done is unlocked the bootloader and installed my apps via play store..
I have even started to disable apps that could interfere like Cerberus, but it does not seem to have any affect..
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Nope, mines identical to before unlocking , try re adding your finger print
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Nope, mines identical to before unlocking , try re adding your finger print
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Hmm ok thanks! Guess I'll live with it until after I root/twrp and flash a new rom.
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Anyone's Nexus imprint flaky after bootloader unlock? About 80% of the time when I place my finger on the sensor, it wakes up to the lock screen (waiting for pin code I set up). Other times it wakes/unlocks to home screen. The only thing I have done is unlocked the bootloader and installed my apps via play store..
I have even started to disable apps that could interfere like Cerberus, but it does not seem to have any affect..
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If you use an app that turns off the screen, this will happen. I made the same mistake and restored the 'Screen Off' app.
I have since uninstalled it and locks my phone with the power button exclusively. Not as convenient, but I really like the Imprint
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If you use an app that turns off the screen, this will happen. I made the same mistake and restored the 'Screen Off' app.
I have since uninstalled it and locks my phone with the power button exclusively. Not as convenient, but I really like the Imprint
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haha you know what, I just realized that as I was sitting down to check this thread again. Ironically your post nailed it.
one7dchevy said:
haha you know what, I just realized that as I was sitting down to check this thread again. Ironically your post nailed it.
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Same here
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I'm curious about just unlocking the bootloader and the status of Android Pay?
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Don't mean to hijack as imprint is different, but I'm interested in a definitive response on this also. As of 12 hours ago, I hadn't been able to locate this info. I've read that unlock disables Pay, but I'm not sure that was from a non-rooted user. On N5 L, Android Pay works with unlocked bootloader. So, has anyone been able to use Pay on non-rooted, unlocked 6P?
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My 6P's bootloader is unlocked. I haven't changed anything else (stock recovery, unrooted., etc) and Pay works fine for me.
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My 6P's bootloader is unlocked. I haven't changed anything else (stock recovery, unrooted., etc) and Pay works fine for me.
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You've used Pay, not just added cards with the unlocked bootloader?
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My 6P's bootloader is unlocked. I haven't changed anything else (stock recovery, unrooted., etc) and Pay works fine for me.
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Thanks for the post. I will ask the same question: you've actually used it?
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You've used Pay, not just added cards with the unlocked bootloader?
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ritchea said:
Thanks for the post. I will ask the same question: you've actually used it?
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I have paid with it several times now, without issue.
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I have paid with it several times now, without issue.
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Thanks.
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Pay doesn't work once you rooted if I'm not mistaken.
I own a Xperia Z2 D6502 with android 5.1.1 and build number 23.4.A.1.232 which I would like to root. I have never rooted any of my phones before so I dont know anything about it. After spending much time on this forum I found this link but I am not sure if these are the right instructions for my xperia Z2 5.1.1 23.4.A.1.232.
What I understood after reading this article was that after following these instructions I would have a rooted lollipop 5.1.1 version on my phone. However I dont want this. I want any suitable(which makes my phone faster and doesnt affect camera quality) rom(I dont know much about them either) with KitKat on my xperia device.
Can anyone please help me to achieve the above with all the detailed steps as I am totally new to this?
Any help will be highly appreciated.
Follow that guide but in step 3 (Then flash the latest*23.4.A.0.546*zip file, which is pre rooted) flash your kitkat rom or whatever you want. Look in the dev section.
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Follow that guide but in step 3 (Then flash the latest*23.4.A.0.546*zip file, which is pre rooted) flash your kitkat rom or whatever you want. Look in the dev section.
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Thank You so much. Can you please suggest me a ROM? And provide a download link?
berbatov93 said:
Thank You so much. Can you please suggest me a ROM? And provide a download link?
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Which ROM you'll prefer is a personal thing, so read about the different ones, look at any pictures and try one. While looking and researching them you'll find the download links.
Having said that I'm just running a rooted version of the Sony 5.1.1 ROM, version 23.4.A.1.232 and quite like it. Sure it has a heap of apps I don't use but I'm not out of space and everything works.
I've got a few different devices with different builds of AOSP based ROMs on them, it varies as the developers for different devices vary so you end up using what's available for your device.
Given you've never rooted your phone before I'm not sure all of the advanced options of some of the ROMs will do much for you, you can spend hours and hours setting things up how you want and then another update turns up and they don't all handle dirty flashes well.
Why do you want root access and what are you expecting it to do for you?
Cluey said:
Which ROM you'll prefer is a personal thing, so read about the different ones, look at any pictures and try one. While looking and researching them you'll find the download links.
Having said that I'm just running a rooted version of the Sony 5.1.1 ROM, version 23.4.A.1.232 and quite like it. Sure it has a heap of apps I don't use but I'm not out of space and everything works.
I've got a few different devices with different builds of AOSP based ROMs on them, it varies as the developers for different devices vary so you end up using what's available for your device.
Given you've never rooted your phone before I'm not sure all of the advanced options of some of the ROMs will do much for you, you can spend hours and hours setting things up how you want and then another update turns up and they don't all handle dirty flashes well.
Why do you want root access and what are you expecting it to do for you?
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I just want to explore and learn things. Some problems I face with xperia Z2 are wifi connectivity, my voice isnt clear to other side while on call, low battery life and runs slow given its hardware specifications.
Cant you unistall the apps which occupy your memory given your device is rooted?
And what if I dont update my device?
I also read about losing my drm keys after flashing, though I didnt understand completely what it meant.
I want to install rooted version of Sony 4.4.4 rom but after searching the forum I cant decide which one I should download. Please help.
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Which ROM you'll prefer is a personal thing, so read about the different ones, look at any pictures and try one. While looking and researching them you'll find the download links.
Having said that I'm just running a rooted version of the Sony 5.1.1 ROM, version 23.4.A.1.232 and quite like it. Sure it has a heap of apps I don't use but I'm not out of space and everything works.
I've got a few different devices with different builds of AOSP based ROMs on them, it varies as the developers for different devices vary so you end up using what's available for your device.
Given you've never rooted your phone before I'm not sure all of the advanced options of some of the ROMs will do much for you, you can spend hours and hours setting things up how you want and then another update turns up and they don't all handle dirty flashes well.
Why do you want root access and what are you expecting it to do for you?
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Sorry to hijack the tread.... Did you have "full root"?
I think i'm having issues on SELinux or mounting permissions.
I can't remove system apps( w/ root uninstaller ), or change system files.
I manually changed selinux (su -c "setenforce 0"), solve it but was not persistent. Installed SELinuxmodechanger, but i think it's not fully working after reboot...
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Sorry to hijack the tread.... Did you have "full root"?
I think i'm having issues on SELinux or mounting permissions.
I can't remove system apps( w/ root uninstaller ), or change system files.
I manually changed selinux (su -c "setenforce 0"), solve it but was not persistent. Installed SELinuxmodechanger, but i think it's not fully working after reboot...
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Do you have nuts deul recovery installed? Thats meant to disable RIC during boot to make /system rw, allowing you to remove system apps.
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I just want to explore and learn things. Some problems I face with xperia Z2 are wifi connectivity, my voice isnt clear to other side while on call, low battery life and runs slow given its hardware specifications.
Cant you unistall the apps which occupy your memory given your device is rooted?
And what if I dont update my device?
I also read about losing my drm keys after flashing, though I didnt understand completely what it meant.
I want to install rooted version of Sony 4.4.4 rom but after searching the forum I cant decide which one I should download. Please help.
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Keep reading mate. If you lose the DRM keys you can't get them back without a backup, you can't use ones someone else backed up either.
I can uninstall some of the preinstalled apps if I want but as I haven't run out of space I haven't yet. I'm also interested in seeing what Sony does with them, some I'll not use and others I glance at.
Battery life is pretty impressive for me but it varies with how you use your device. I play Ingress and if I'm out playing I get five hours, that's with the screen on, GPS and data going. Not many phones can do that.
Calls are normally clear although I've noticed that if I'm lying on my bed talking it doesn't cope very well, I have to twist my head so the ear I'm using is away from the pillow. I assume it's because the noise cancelling microphone is on the top and gets confused/muffled as when I move my head it's great. I've had people comment on how clear I sound on this phone.
I've not had any trouble with WiFi and haven't felt the phone is slow. So how are you determining that your device is slow? What is it doing which makes you feel it is slow?
Not sure what you mean by not updating your device. If you mean not updating the ROM nothing really happens but as time passes there is a greater chance that apps will stop working, it depends on what you use and if the makers of them what a minimum Android version for them. Also if there are security flaws the longer you used an unpatched device the greater the chance that you'll get compromised. It is quite irritating that we're not fully patched for Stagefright yet.
As for the original question about how to root this ROM version, the short answer is, you can't. Well not yet that I've seen.
To root the phone you have to downgrade, gain root and then upgrade to what you want to run while keeping root. You found the guide already, follow it. If you don't understand or aren't confident about doing it I'd suggest not doing it. If it's your only device and primary phone is it worth breaking it and being without a phone?
If you want to learn about Android devices in general pick up a cheap device to play with and learn on, the Z2 is still quite expensive. You could probably pick up one with a broken screen pretty cheaply online, as long as you can read the screen you can play around and learn on it. Just plug a mouse in if the digitiser doesn't work.
I used a stock Samsung GS2 for years while reading about things, then I got a tablet and started playing with that as it was just inconvenient to me if I broke it, I still had a working phone.
@clawpt I'm not sure what you mean by "full root". I can uninstall things if I want though, perhaps Matt's reply will help you.
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Do you have nuts deul recovery installed? Thats meant to disable RIC during boot to make /system rw, allowing you to remove system apps.
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Yes. I'm using "Z2-lockeddualrecovery2.8.x-RELEASE.flashable.zip". I'm on unlocked bootloader, maybe i need to use the other variant (i'm on stock kernel, should not be a problem)?
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@clawpt I'm not sure what you mean by "full root". I can uninstall things if I want though, perhaps Matt's reply will help you.
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Meaning that you also have rw permissions.
I can't delete system apps, i can't modify/create a file at "/".
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Keep reading mate. If you lose the DRM keys you can't get them back without a backup, you can't use ones someone else backed up either.
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I will try to back them up given they are still there because I already rooted my phone to pre rooted stock rom 5.1.1 as mentioned in the guide I found.
Calls are normally clear although I've noticed that if I'm lying on my bed talking it doesn't cope very well, I have to twist my head so the ear I'm using is away from the pillow. I assume it's because the noise cancelling microphone is on the top and gets confused/muffled as when I move my head it's great. I've had people comment on how clear I sound on this phone.
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Maybe I have hardware issues or network problems as people usually complain about my voice being not clear.
I've not had any trouble with WiFi and haven't felt the phone is slow. So how are you determining that your device is slow? What is it doing which makes you feel it is slow?
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Sometimes my device doesnt connect to saved wifi networks automatically, I have to connect it manually.
If I open too many tabs in my chrome browser, chrome crashes. Sometimes dialer also takes too much time to open.
Not sure what you mean by not updating your device. If you mean not updating the ROM nothing really happens but as time passes there is a greater chance that apps will stop working, it depends on what you use and if the makers of them what a minimum Android version for them. Also if there are security flaws the longer you used an unpatched device the greater the chance that you'll get compromised. It is quite irritating that we're not fully patched for Stagefright yet.
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I meant update that sony provides. After rooting my phone I am still getting updates from sony(I didnt expect them), so if I update using sony updates will my phone lose its root status(I mean will it still be rooted)?
As for the original question about how to root this ROM version, the short answer is, you can't. Well not yet that I've seen.
To root the phone you have to downgrade, gain root and then upgrade to what you want to run while keeping root. You found the guide already, follow it. If you don't understand or aren't confident about doing it I'd suggest not doing it. If it's your only device and primary phone is it worth breaking it and being without a phone?
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I wasnt much confident but still I proceeded with the steps mentioned in the guide and with a little help from google, I was fortunately able to root my device. Yes, its the only phone I have but I couldnt afford a new one and I waited too long for its warranty to expire.
Can you please provide me with a source to learn about general concepts involved in rooting like flashing, busybox, unlocking boot loader, etc. I am trying to google each thing individually, but i cant seem to find a place where I could learn things in a proper order, moving from basics to more advanced concepts.
Thank you so much for your help.
I would like you to clear one more thing for me, when I followed the guide, I first flashed my device with 17.1.2.A.0.314 ftf file and then installed flashable_D6502_23.4.A.0.546.zip from the recovery menu. So what is a ftf file and what is the difference between the two steps I followed. In my understanding, both basically did the same thing, i.e., installing a new rom. Is ftf file sony specific?
Thanks again.
@berbatov93 definitely back up the DRM keys before unlocking the boot loader, it was a fairly simple process from memory.
We need more information on the sound problem. Does it happen consistently? If it isn't consistent look for a common situation when you have the problem, like loud noises, high wind etc. Have you used the diagnostics tool to test the microphone? It's in Settings > About phone > Diagnostics.
Thinking about it a bit more, sometimes there seems to be a little pause for people to hear me. I'm not sure if it's phone or network based, I guess it could be phone related while it works out the background noise cancelling magic.
WiFi being slow to connect is a better description than, "my device is too slow."
Sometimes I notice that it hasn't automatically connected to my WiFi when I get home but by the time I notice and look it's connecting. Is that what you mean?
What setting do you have the WiFi on when the phone is asleep? Settings > WiFi > ... menu > Advanced > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep.
Everything is slow with lots of Chrome tabs open, you could try a different browser or just be better at closing tabs.
I've never noticed any slow launching with the dialer, perhaps your call history is huge? Try backing it up with an app from the Play Store and then deleting it to see if that is the cause. Each time you open it it looks at that to display it.
As you're on a stock ROM it will notify you that there is a new update. If you let it update though you'll lose root and then have to downgrade again to get it back. I just wait for the update to be available through XperiFirm, download it and make a pre-rooted flashable zip. There is a thread about how to do that here. That thread will also answer your question about what you did which seemed like flashing two ROMs, you did but in different ways.
I still don't know enough so I can't answer your questions but it looks like your Google Fu is weak. :silly:
Try this link, it won't always be the top search result though.
There are lots of different summaries about what rooting does for you, I don't want to try and summarise them for you. (I'd rather go to bed, it's 4:30am for me!)
Just reading a description of one of the various Busybox installers on the Play Store should answer that question, I bought this one. I can't remember if a friend recommended it to me or something I read somewhere, but I bought it as I appreciated the effort the developer put in for the rest of us to use. The same with SuperSU Pro.
Bootloaders are trickier, probably something you'll get better answers by reading more or using Google. These days they seem to all be locked with a way of unlocking them from the device manufacturer which lets them record your IMEI or serial number. I assume they do this so if you send it back for a warranty claim they can see you've unlocked it and then charge you to fix something you've screwed up. I've never taken anything back so I don't know.
They're something I have to learn more about too but if you find out more before me please fill me in.
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definitely back up the DRM keys before unlocking the boot loader, it was a fairly simple process from memory.
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Should I use this to take backup? And what kind of backup should I take to recover my device from bootloop? I wanted to install xposed on my device, but it was warned somewhere that sony devices might go into bootloop and that I should take a backup to restore my device. What kind of backup can help me recover my device from bootloop or soft brick?
We need more information on the sound problem. Does it happen consistently? If it isn't consistent look for a common situation when you have the problem, like loud noises, high wind etc. Have you used the diagnostics tool to test the microphone? It's in Settings > About phone > Diagnostics.
Thinking about it a bit more, sometimes there seems to be a little pause for people to hear me. I'm not sure if it's phone or network based, I guess it could be phone related while it works out the background noise cancelling magic.
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It happens most of the time, even when I am in a closed room with no background disturbances.
WiFi being slow to connect is a better description than, "my device is too slow."
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That was a wifi issue, it just didnt connect automatically, I had to do it manually even for saved networks.
Sometimes I notice that it hasn't automatically connected to my WiFi when I get home but by the time I notice and look it's connecting. Is that what you mean?
What setting do you have the WiFi on when the phone is asleep? Settings > WiFi > ... menu > Advanced > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep.
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It just shows connecting but doesnt connect until select the network. Keep wifi on during sleep was enabled.
Everything is slow with lots of Chrome tabs open, you could try a different browser or just be better at closing tabs.
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Then maybe its a chrome issue.
As you're on a stock ROM it will notify you that there is a new update. If you let it update though you'll lose root and then have to downgrade again to get it back. I just wait for the update to be available through XperiFirm, download it and make a pre-rooted flashable zip. There is a thread about how to do that here. That thread will also answer your question about what you did which seemed like flashing two ROMs, you did but in different ways.
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I needed 4.4.4 pre rooted stock ROM for D6502 but cant seem to find it anywhere. I read the steps in the thread you mentioned about creating a pre rooted ROM, but steps are not explained in detail for someone new like me. I am also scared a little to try something new on my device as I am already facing a few problems. Can you provide me with a link with much more detailed steps?
I still don't know enough so I can't answer your questions but it looks like your Google Fu is weak. :silly:
Try this link, it won't always be the top search result though.
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I feel silly now.
Bootloaders are trickier, probably something you'll get better answers by reading more or using Google. These days they seem to all be locked with a way of unlocking them from the device manufacturer which lets them record your IMEI or serial number. I assume they do this so if you send it back for a warranty claim they can see you've unlocked it and then charge you to fix something you've screwed up. I've never taken anything back so I don't know.
They're something I have to learn more about too but if you find out more before me please fill me in.
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Will sony be able to fix my device in case I screwed up and bricked it?
Thanks.
@berbatov93 I'm sure Sony will fix it if you pay them too!
Hopefully it won't come to that though, they're pretty hard to brick because of the way they've set things up. Even if you soft brick it you can power it off, fire up the flash tool and then hold volume down and plug USB in, press flash and it'll put a base Sony ROM on for you. I've kept the D6503_17.1.A.2.55_Generic AU 1281-9715.ftf file on my PC for just that reason but I haven't had to reuse it yet.
I don't know of any other instructions for making your own pre-rooted zip file, it took me a fair bit of reading and looking at menu options to work it out the first time but it's pretty easy. You won't screw your phone up with it as it will fail before you get it to the phone if you do it incorrectly. As with most things in life you have to learn from experience, just follow the instructions with the programs open so you can refer back to them. You could try Google for better instructions, I'm not sure if anyone wrote something more newbie friendly.
As for the WiFi problem perhaps a different ROM version will sort it out, also you might want to get all your data off your phone and do a completely fresh install on it and see if that sorts it out. The backups people talk about as Nandroids are done from in the custom recovery, have a look in there now you've got it working again. I'm not going to reply to the other thread as I see you did it all again.
I doubt there are any pre-rooted 4.4.4 still around as most people have moved on. There's probably no need to make a pre-rooted one though, one of the root exploits works on it so you could just download, via XperiFirm, the 4.4.4 you want and flash it, then root it. I've never downloaded a pre-rooted ROM as I'm overly cautious, I'm not even keen on using the one click root programs as I can't read what they're doing!
You could call it a Chrome problem but I'd really call it a user problem. Like I said originally you could try another browser and see if it copes better but they aren't really designed to have lots of tabs open. Each tab takes up memory, so you'll fill it all up and then it will start using virtual memory but eventually it will crash. It happens on desktop computers too, I've got 8GB of RAM in my PC but Chrome eats it all up if I open too many tabs.
I don't know what to do about your mic problems in call, I'd take it back to where you got it from and see what they say. But I'm pretty sure you've waited too long as you indicated it was out of warranty which is why you've started looking at root options now. If you've been having problems for a while you should have taken it back before you lost that. It's still worth asking the store/phone company about it though, just make sure they don't go charging you anything to fix it without asking you about it.
You might just have to chalk it up to experience and live with it. Never be afraid to ask for things to be looked at while the warranty is valid, it might be inconvenient but if something needs fixing it's better to use the warranty than pay for it.
The other option would be to use a headset for calls, I picked up an SBH52 and I'm pretty happy with it. As long as you don't lose or break it it will work with whatever phone you end up replacing your Z2 with.
Dear all,
Hope you're all fine. It's been a long time I did not come back here... as it's been a long time I did not play with any of the recent mobiles I got
I am coming to you for an advice. As a matter of fact, I got my brand new Galaxy S9+ stolen in Paris two weeks ago (mugging).
It's the 1st time I live this and it is quite traumatic, not saying that you also feel stupid.
My son was also stolen his Galaxy Note 8 (pickpocket).
Therefore, I am now looking for a solution (tracker type) that would allow me to always know where my mobile is, even if a hard reset is done.
Do you if this type of solution exists please ?
I specify that I do not wish to root the mobile.
Thanks for your help.
Best regards,
Nothing that will survive a hard reset without root, as that would require modifying the /system partition. Even still, someone could still easily disable that by flashing an image using Odin.
Your closest option would be something like Cerberus.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus
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Thanks. And if I root the phone, do I lose the warranty ?
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Nothing that will survive a hard reset without root, as that would require modifying the /system partition. Even still, someone could still easily disable that by flashing an image using Odin.
Your closest option would be something like Cerberus.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus
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theres plenty of mdm services out there that can do just that without root
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Thanks. And if I root the phone, do I lose the warranty ?
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if u unlock bootloader and use custom firmware then yes, it will void warranty
Assuming that your phone is still in the country where it was stolen, the national police can track your phone by its imei number, however it's a long process that is not applicable for everyone. Oh anf even if you don't have the imei number they can obtain it from your operator.
Hi all!
I got this nice phone yesterday. I made a Mi account about 3 month ago, hoping that when i get the phone i can unlock it immediately. Sadly, MiFlash Unlock said that "You need to wait 360 hours..." etc.
But i found a way that could unlock immediately. :good:
- First of all, you need to download latest MiFlash Unlock. Get it here. (You need to update it in the app itself, just to be sure you have the latest version.)
- Sign in, Install latest drivers, connect Mi account & device etc.
- Go for unlocking, to the point where it says "You need to wait..."
Now the fun part:
I was reading guides and stuff in this forum, where i found a thread about 360 hours of waiting. There was a comment by @arddy1 (Thank you) which solved this issue.
- Download this MiFlash Unlock tool (This is an older version.)
- Sign in, go for unlocking (It'll still wipe everything so make backups)
- Reboot
- Enjoy
It's not 100% working but you can give it a try.
Hope i helped! Happy flashing :good:
So you're able to unlock instantly with that mi unlock right? Are you sure you have not waited 360h before?
In my case, that mi unlock version didnt make me unlock immediately, but to skip additional waiting hours. I still need to wait 360h before can unlocking.
I heard some old or admin mi account can unlock instantly. In your case, I dont know how it works. For normal account, normally you need to wait 360h on whatever any mi unlock version.
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So you're able to unlock instantly with that mi unlock right? Are you sure you have not waited 360h before?
In my case, that mi unlock version didnt make me unlock immediately, but to skip additional waiting hours. I still need to wait 360h before can unlocking.
I heard some old or admin mi account can unlock instantly. In your case, I dont know how it works. For normal account, normally you need to wait 360h on whatever any mi unlock version.
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I tried unlocking with the latest tool yesterday, which gave me the 360h waiting. Today i found your comment and tried. It worked instantly
Doesn't work for me, still got 173h left on both versions.
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Doesn't work for me, still got 173h left on both versions.
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How old is your Mi account? Maybe it's the cause of it.
I have a xiaomi account for some years now, this unlcoker tool did not change the wait time.
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I have a xiaomi account for some years now, this unlcoker tool did not change the wait time.
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Interesting... Then it could be random. :/
Will try later.
Edit: it says binding time is too short.
latest unlock tool says 95 hours left.
I tried this version too, still have to wait 360 hours. You were lucky!
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I tried this version too, still have to wait 360 hours. You were lucky!
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I wonder how it worked for me :|
according to my theoretical & practical research old tricks like using old miflash, old account do not work. i used also this version with veteran account and it didn't decrease waiting time by a nanosecond. the only trick still working is when xiaomi gives you extra ~3 days to wait as a bonus for not using the device (who would use non-rooted device?), you can skip it with old miflash.
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according to my theoretical & practical research old tricks like using old miflash, old account do not work. i used also this version with veteran account and it didn't decrease waiting time by a nanosecond. the only trick still working is when xiaomi gives you extra ~3 days to wait as a bonus for not using the device (who would use non-rooted device?), you can skip it with old miflash.
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I've ordered one, should be here Saturday. Given that, I'm reading where you basically have to use the device during that 15 days? I'd honestly prefer not to until I can set it up how I prefer, from what you gather, using the old version will allow that?
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I've ordered one, should be here Saturday. Given that, I'm reading where you basically have to use the device during that 15 days? I'd honestly prefer not to until I can set it up how I prefer, from what you gather, using the old version will allow that?
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Good attitude. I'm strict too and i didn't use the device at all, and also borrowed SIM card for the registration process. So i got penalty 3 extra days for not providing Spyaomi enough of profiling data I can imagine excited sheep, having privacy in mind as last priority, will use the phone most actively during the first days, which is perfect for them.
You don't need to do it. After 15 days, get a bail from extra jail with old miflash. Just make sure to keep the account, i switched, and the countdown started over. After oem unlock, you can delete the account from phone, then delete it from the xiaomi website. Bye bye:victory:
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Good attitude. I'm strict too and i didn't use the device at all, and also borrowed SIM card for the registration process. So i got penalty 3 extra days for not providing Spyaomi enough of profiling data I can imagine excited sheep, having privacy in mind as last priority, will use the phone most actively during the first days, which is perfect for them.
You don't need to do it. After 15 days, get a bail from extra jail with old miflash. Just make sure to keep the account, i switched, and the countdown started over. After oem unlock, you can delete the account from phone, then delete it from the xiaomi website. Bye bye:victory:
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Great. That's what I'll do then.
This method is not working for me either, waiting time is around 347 hours, let xiaomi use my data for that time... lolz
Did you all connect your Mi accounts before unlocking?
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Did you all connect your Mi accounts before unlocking?
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yes I did
Tried following these instructions and it didn't work
Didn´t Work
123h again ;/
But I do not have to wait 30 more days because it's already the second device in a short time
Hi!, tried but not work for me, My account have some years, since the Redmi 3s (was my phone before)
"An update with the November security patch arrived for the majority of Pixel 6 and 6 Pro owners at the end of October. Google is now releasing updated builds for both phones, with global and Verizon variants.
Update 11/17: According to Verizon, this mid-cycle update “improves the performance of your device’s fingerprint sensor.” Early anecdotes of the 14.56MB OTA are bearing that out. However, “Check for update” does not currently trigger the download for all users."
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Pixel 6 Pro – SD1A.210817.037 – all – Factory Image – OTA
Pixel 6 Pro – SD1A.210817.037.A1 – Verizon – Factory Image – OTA
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Pixel 6 and 6 Pro get out-of-cycle November update to improve the fingerprint sensor [U]
An update with the November security patch arrived for the majority of Pixel 6 and 6 Pro owners at the end of October. Google is now....
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Wow! Just wow. This is the way it should be. Banking, apps, unlocking nearly instantaneous..
How long did this update take to finish for other people? My Pixel 6 is spending forever "Optimizng apps".
Also, my fingerprint sensor seemed quick and responsive to me (coming from a LG G8X). I wonder if this update will change anything.
Ive not received it yet. UK based.
Don't have the tech know how to side load so I'm checking for updates via settings ]] system ]] system update.
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How long did this update take to finish for other people? My Pixel 6 is spending forever "Optimizng apps".
Also, my fingerprint sensor seemed quick and responsive to me (coming from a LG G8X). I wonder if this update will change anything.
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Optimizing apps is like watching paint dry. Put the phone aside and come back in a half hour.
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Optimizing apps is like watching paint dry. Put the phone aside and come back in a half hour.
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I let it be and just came back to it to find it was ready for the phone to be restarted. So I don't know when it actually finished, but it was a while. Now to test the fingerprint sensor performance.
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Performance feels the same or just a fraction of a second longer. Perhaps it also addressed accuracy? Should be noted that I never felt my fingerprint sensor was slow.
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Ive not received it yet. UK based.
Don't have the tech know how to side load so I'm checking for updates via settings ]] system ]] system update.
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I hope you get it soon in the UK. If not, take a look at the instructions given here. One of the most important things is downloading the sdk-platform tools and making sure your phone is recognized. The download is the second of 2 November OTAs. Once you do it you'll see how easy it is. But I do understand being a little trepidatious.
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definitely a tick faster for me. I think this also prevents it from misreading the FP when moving it while holding down. Faster sometimes can also be more accurate.
cheers
Nothing here yet. Pixel is not officially sold in my country but i think that the one i have is initially bought from UK. Hope that it will make fingerprint reader better when i receive it.
Optimizing apps took a really long time.
Way faster unlock within apps. (I use smart unlock so I can't comment on unlocking the phone_
Everytime I try to flash, it just fails on (remote: partition (system) not found)
Tried most things, full reset, adb wont update on sideload.
Although it did fail on bootloader, but it did eventually update the bootloader to the required, but it jsut will not update to the 037 update, its really damn annoying.
Using flash all or sideload, it wont update, bizarre.
If you are rooted already and want to update: @gururoop has an execellent step by step for Pixel6 Pro that can be used on the Pixel6 (assuming flashing proper images etc) https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...thout-wiping-data-and-retaining-root.4356065/
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Optimizing apps took a really long time.
Way faster unlock within apps. (I use smart unlock so I can't comment on unlocking the phone_
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I also had on smart unlock but with this update I turned it off. I've yet to get a FP deny with the update. And with the location of the onscreen thumb reader it's even faster than my P5 with the rear sensor where you need to adjust in order to get your finger on it. (that's not what she said either. ;-)
This update has made the phone so much better, imo. I also saw that it corrected some overheating issues so we'll see if it helps battery life too.
Google must have been reading our XDA fingerprint threads!
Just need it to arrive OTA in the UK. Pretty please.
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Google must have been reading our XDA fingerprint threads!
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I was thinking the exact same thing. And Reddit too. They are uncensored so things got really vicious there. At least there is some semblance of normalcy and decorum here which might have even made it more readable for Google.
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If you are rooted already and want to update: @gururoop has an execellent step by step for Pixel6 Pro that can be used on the Pixel6 (assuming flashing proper images etc) https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...thout-wiping-data-and-retaining-root.4356065/
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Was this directed at me?
Shouldn't need root to update stock to 037, it just fails on partition error.
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Everytime I try to flash, it just fails on (remote: partition (system) not found)
Tried most things, full reset, adb wont update on sideload.
Although it did fail on bootloader, but it did eventually update the bootloader to the required, but it jsut will not update to the 037 update, its really damn annoying.
Using flash all or sideload, it wont update, bizarre.
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It seems google have been messing with files via the firmware page as 1 minute it didnt work, flash tool showed raven download for the pixel 6 which is wrong, anyway finally got it done via flash all on many downloads later, god knows how but alas.
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Was this directed at me?
Shouldn't need root to update stock to 037, it just fails on partition error.
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No sorry mate - I was just making a general suggestion for anyone who is already rooted and doesn't want to wipe
No worries, sorted our 6 & pro now, google playing games with me & firmware