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HI guys, so im thinking to buy Oneplus X, but i dont know if im geting the right version for europe, i cant buy from offical oneplus webiste , because they dont ship to my country, but i will buy from other websites like Aliexpress, somewhere near that price, i read that they say soemthing about google play sservices ! Are google play services installed on internactional veersion, or that version which am getting is Asian Version ?
Indian and international version has Google services China one does not have Google services
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loveboy_lion said:
Indian and international version has Google services China one does not have Google services
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any other diference or just that ?
Xhemal1325 said:
any other diference or just that ?
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Also, I think the Chinese OPX comes with HydrogenOS instead of OxygenOS.
Just my 2 cents, I'm stationed in Italy and I get H+, LTE, and H
So yes, it works great in Europe on vodafone
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Just my 2 cents, I'm stationed in Italy and I get H+, LTE, and H
So yes, it works great in Europe on vodafone
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well thanks, so what do you think about camiera , is it good ? im reading online people say that its worst , especialy in low light ! what do you think ?
Xhemal1325 said:
well thanks, so what do you think about camiera , is it good ? im reading online people say that its worst , especialy in low light ! what do you think ?
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To say I'm beyond happy with this device would be an understatement. I'm seriously considering selling my Nexus 6P. They're very comparable, and I know how crazy that sounds. They have a ton of similarities, fast camera, good battery life, stock experience.
The battery life on the 6p wins JUST due to standby time. If I use the OPX all day I'll get 4-5 SOT, where the 6P gets 3-4 SOT. But that standby time of the 6p is what makes it a winner.
When OPX gets 6.0, that doze feature will really kick it over the edge.
The only thing that holds me wanting the 6p still is the fingerprint reader and the front facing speakers... before the 6p I had the OP2, that device was horrible (TO ME AT LEAST) Fingerprint reader was crap, and the shape of the device was not comfortable to hold for a while
If you're considering getting the OPX, get it. It's a fantastic device that doesn't feel cheap in the slightest bit. It performs better than the Moto X Pure Edition (2015)
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Xhemal1325 said:
well thanks, so what do you think about camiera , is it good ? im reading online people say that its worst , especialy in low light ! what do you think ?
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One major negative however is how slippery the OPX is, as I sat there typing that is slid off the couch (which I though was level)
It's like ice slippery. GRIPPY to hold though... while holding you'll never worry about it slipping out of your hands, the glass is way grippier than the iPhone 4/4s
YoungSkeezy said:
To say I'm beyond happy with this device would be an understatement. I'm seriously considering selling my Nexus 6P. They're very comparable, and I know how crazy that sounds. They have a ton of similarities, fast camera, good battery life, stock experience.
The battery life on the 6p wins JUST due to standby time. If I use the OPX all day I'll get 4-5 SOT, where the 6P gets 3-4 SOT. But that standby time of the 6p is what makes it a winner.
When OPX gets 6.0, that doze feature will really kick it over the edge.
The only thing that holds me wanting the 6p still is the fingerprint reader and the front facing speakers... before the 6p I had the OP2, that device was horrible (TO ME AT LEAST) Fingerprint reader was crap, and the shape of the device was not comfortable to hold for a while
If you're considering getting the OPX, get it. It's a fantastic device that doesn't feel cheap in the slightest bit. It performs better than the Moto X Pure Edition (2015)
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One major negative however is how slippery the OPX is, as I sat there typing that is slid off the couch (which I though was level)
It's like ice slippery. GRIPPY to hold though... while holding you'll never worry about it slipping out of your hands, the glass is way grippier than the iPhone 4/4s
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well it seems great from you review, even people say camera is bad on low light, i still dont know, im considering to buy htc one m8 (refurbished ) or this, the only this which is keeping me away from buying OPX is about that camera !! However i cant buy it from OnePLus web, because they dont ship to Albania (where i live ), i need try AliExpress, or something else ....
The camera on the m8 is the worst camera out there. I haven't tried the oneplusx low light.. I'll try it out tonight and post some samples
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The camera on the m8 is the worst camera out there. I haven't tried the oneplusx low light.. I'll try it out tonight and post some samples
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well i use much front camera, and m8 seems to have a good one, idk about oneplus x , but compared to nexus 5x (from review from android authority ) nexus x was way more better
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The camera on the m8 is the worst camera out there. I haven't tried the oneplusx low light.. I'll try it out tonight and post some samples
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^^This is TOTALLY UNTRUE. The M8 has an excellent camera. The ONLY downside is the pics are only 4MP. So Zoom/Crop totally destroys the image. Low light pics are pretty great too. Better than this camera for sure.
Also, just the M8. The M8 Eye camera sucks.
The M8 also is optimized better than this phone. It just flies.
That being said, I would never buy a used or refurbished phone.
The M8 also has a better front camera. Better lighting and so on. Only 5MP though.
Can someone tell me whats the diference betwen a china version vs internacional version ? since opeplus does not ship to my country, i need to buy it from AliExpress and they wil sell me a china version ?
nachiketa.ramesh said:
^^This is TOTALLY UNTRUE. The M8 has an excellent camera. The ONLY downside is the pics are only 4MP. So Zoom/Crop totally destroys the image. Low light pics are pretty great too. Better than this camera for sure.
Also, just the M8. The M8 Eye camera sucks.
The M8 also is optimized better than this phone. It just flies.
That being said, I would never buy a used or refurbished phone.
The M8 also has a better front camera. Better lighting and so on. Only 5MP though.
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http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/HTC-One-M8-4.1Mp-sensor-ranks-outside-the-DxOMark-top-10
Dxomark begs to differ... And that's when the phone was NEW.
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Xhemal1325 said:
Can someone tell me whats the diference betwen a china version vs internacional version ? since opeplus does not ship to my country, i need to buy it from AliExpress and they wil sell me a china version ?
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Id check on the onplus forums in their website.. I'm sure people have asked the identical questions with shipping solutions
Worst case I can think of is you'll find it has hydrogen os which you can just easily just root and toss oxygen os on
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http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/HTC-One-M8-4.1Mp-sensor-ranks-outside-the-DxOMark-top-10
Dxomark begs to differ... And that's when the phone was NEW.
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Id check on the onplus forums in their website.. I'm sure people have asked the identical questions with shipping solutions
Worst case I can think of is you'll find it has hydrogen os which you can just easily just root and toss oxygen os on
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Read the article yourself. The One M8s weaknesses are noise under low light, where and stabilisation of videos, not colors and detail, both of which come out quite well, even if you lose some accuracy. You have to remember this is a 4MP sensor. It may not compete with the Z2, but its damn good for a 4 MP sensor. Sure, 4MP is not very sharp, but plenty good for social media, as long as you don't crop. The X on the other hand will do nothing in low light. Forget noise, you'll get nothing. Colors on the X are pleasing, though less accurate than the M8. The M8 overall takes better pictures, as long as you don't mind the loss of detail in the smaller sensor.
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you can contact the seller and ask them help you install the OS Which you want then will be ok
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Get the 1+X 1003-version, it works flawlessly in Europe.
About the camera, i can understand why YoungSkeezy hasn't posted any low light pictures yet because they don't really turn out that good tbh. If you want to get a good camera, buy a Galaxy S6... on the other hand, that's almost the only thing that stands out with the S6
I can just repeat what all the serious reviewers tell you, the 1+X is a great phone for its price. There are better phones out there but not by far.
If you ask me, for the reasonable price the pros are:
- Good looks, slim and build quality
- Decent APU for the phone size, two years old but copes with most tasks
- 3Gig RAM helps quite a lot
- Excellent screen
- Dual SIM or SD-slot
- Close to stock android experiance out of the box
- 3-way notification slider
...and the cons are:
- No fingerprint reader
- No NFC
- Mediocre camera
- Only about 12 or the 16GB of storage is available if you use 2 SIMs
Huawei did it again and came with a brand new high end device in 2017, this time it's the Huawei P10. So what is your thoughts about this phone? Feel free to discuss anything on this thread ( battery life, experience, help if you need it and more), have a nice day all :good:
I think I'm going to buy the P10 - I've previously owned a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge but found it too big - the P10 Plus is even bigger. Shame, as I'd like the enhanced camera and better screen. The P10 does look pretty nice though and the camera should be excellent. I wonder what colours we'll get here in the UK?
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I think I'm going to buy the P10 - I've previously owned a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge but found it too big - the P10 Plus is even bigger. Shame, as I'd like the enhanced camera and better screen. The P10 does look pretty nice though and the camera should be excellent. I wonder what colours we'll get here in the UK?
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I found this link for you check it out: http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2017/02/huawei-p10-vs-p10-plus-which-one-should-uk-folks-go-for/
Thanks Soufianski. At the moment I'm more interested in the smaller P10, but who knows! Hopefully I can see them in the flesh and make a decision. The only negative of the Plus for me is the size.
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Thanks Soufianski. At the moment I'm more interested in the smaller P10, but who knows! Hopefully I can see them in the flesh and make a decision. The only negative of the Plus for me is the size.
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Good luck!
Does anyone have a link to the new software update B112? I see that it is already out.
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Nevermind. Just got it.
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Does anyone have a link to the new software update B112? I see that it is already out.
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Do you have the phone and got the update or found it elsewere? i'd like to see the software if its available for download.
Got it last night. No idea what has changed as the description was very vague. Only 250MB or so.
At the launch we were told our models had pre-release software and some portrait functions in the camera were coming soon, but I can't remember exactly what.
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Got it last night. No idea what has changed as the description was very vague. Only 250MB or so.
At the launch we were told our models had pre-release software and some portrait functions in the camera were coming soon, but I can't remember exactly what.
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Maybe small fixes and improvements,security patch..etc
Could someone please upload it for download? Having trouble finding it elsewhere..
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Do you have the phone and got the update or found it elsewere? i'd like to see the software if its available for download.
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it was OTA later that day
I know it's early days, but I am finding the battery life on the P10 to be far better than the Mate 9. The Mate 9 obviously has the bigger display, but with such a big difference in battery you might still assume it would have the edge.
I did a phone clone so everything on the Mate 9 carried over, so they're both effectively running the same stuff. However, I'm using the P10 more than the Mate 9 which is often in standby.... so it becomes even more odd.
I will have to do some proper tests, but irrespective of the comparison aspect, I think the P10 battery life is exceptional. The Mate 9 is great too, but this is something else!
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I know it's early days, but I am finding the battery life on the P10 to be far better than the Mate 9. The Mate 9 obviously has the bigger display, but with such a big difference in battery you might still assume it would have the edge.
I did a phone clone so everything on the Mate 9 carried over, so they're both effectively running the same stuff. However, I'm using the P10 more than the Mate 9 which is often in standby.... so it becomes even more odd.
I will have to do some proper tests, but irrespective of the comparison aspect, I think the P10 battery life is exceptional. The Mate 9 is great too, but this is something else!
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You can share some battery stats later here if you like :good:
What do you think about this article : "
That's because there's no oleophobic coating on the actual display of the P10 — at least on the review devices we were given in Barcelona last week. An oleophobic coating may sound obscure and technical, but it's a staple feature of all but the cheapest smartphone screens. This nanocoating, usually applied to the glass during manufacturing, repels oils — like the kind on your face and fingers — and stops the display from looking like it's been used as a pizza slice after you've been tapping, swiping and calling. "
Is the phone a finger print and smudges magnet?
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I know it's early days, but I am finding the battery life on the P10 to be far better than the Mate 9. The Mate 9 obviously has the bigger display, but with such a big difference in battery you might still assume it would have the edge.
I did a phone clone so everything on the Mate 9 carried over, so they're both effectively running the same stuff. However, I'm using the P10 more than the Mate 9 which is often in standby.... so it becomes even more odd.
I will have to do some proper tests, but irrespective of the comparison aspect, I think the P10 battery life is exceptional. The Mate 9 is great too, but this is something else!
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You already have the P10? Where in the world are you? :laugh: I'm still waiting here. How about the standby time? I've read two reviews already that have complaints regarding huge battery drain. Namely from Recombu and Trustedreviews.
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You already have the P10? Where in the world are you? [emoji23] I'm still waiting here. How about the standby time? I've read two reviews already that have complaints regarding huge battery drain. Namely from Recombu and Trustedreviews.
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UK. Got mine at the same event as Recombu and Trusted. My review is pending still.
I'm finding the battery excellent, with Doze working fine (some say it doesn't). I did install AnTuTu to benchmark the phone and that seemed to keep running (never seen that before) and caused problems, so I removed it.
I wonder if they've downloaded that?
As I said before, I did a phone clone from my Mate 9, which has a nice setup of apps that are kept running and closed. So perhaps I've tweaked my P10 a lot more than others.
I've even got so used to the new fingerprint sensor that using my Mate 9 (or indeed any phone) now feels odd. Took just one week to master it!
I hope to have my in depth review done any day now. Need to take more photos and will be in London all day tomorrow with the P10, P9 and Mate 9 for comparisons.
Can you share the link of the stored firmware?
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UK. Got mine at the same event as Recombu and Trusted. My review is pending still.
I'm finding the battery excellent, with Doze working fine (some say it doesn't). I did install AnTuTu to benchmark the phone and that seemed to keep running (never seen that before) and caused problems, so I removed it.
I wonder if they've downloaded that?
As I said before, I did a phone clone from my Mate 9, which has a nice setup of apps that are kept running and closed. So perhaps I've tweaked my P10 a lot more than others.
I've even got so used to the new fingerprint sensor that using my Mate 9 (or indeed any phone) now feels odd. Took just one week to master it!
I hope to have my in depth review done any day now. Need to take more photos and will be in London all day tomorrow with the P10, P9 and Mate 9 for comparisons.
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I think they did use Antutu. I saw one reviewer showing his battery stats and Antutu was at the top. So i guess That was the one causing the problem.
Yeah, i was thinking that maybe they just had a rogue app causing the drain since everybody uses their phones differently. Because, for me, 20% drain overnight is too much just because Doze didn't work.
I was also a little bummed that they moved the fingerprint sensor to the front but it's not really a big deal.
I eagerly await for your review!
Why should I choose a P10 ? G6 is water resistant, has a bigger screen and makes better photos ?
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I think they did use Antutu. I saw one reviewer showing his battery stats and Antutu was at the top. So i guess That was the one causing the problem.
Yeah, i was thinking that maybe they just had a rogue app causing the drain since everybody uses their phones differently. Because, for me, 20% drain overnight is too much just because Doze didn't work.
I was also a little bummed that they moved the fingerprint sensor to the front but it's not really a big deal.
I eagerly await for your review!
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I have managed in under a week to get really used to the new fingerprint sensor. I always said I preferred it on the back, and this is the only phone I own that has it at the front - but it's VERY easy to get used to. I am sure you would too.
It's ironic that Samsung is moving its fingerprint reader to the back, and who knows what Apple will do.
AnTuTu was causing real problems, and brings up the warning about excessive drain. It shouldn't be doing anything when not running, but it seems to run itself. I wonder if there's something dodgy going on there (always rumours about AnTuTu taking bribes to boost scores). I hope not!
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I can't answer that. I really liked the G6 at MWC. Awesome display and feels nice in the hand (not too thick) but I'm not hearing great things about the battery on that, although the reviewers have pre-release models (like the P10) and there was an update yesterday. Too late for some reviewers who already gave their phones back.
Hopefully I'll get a final release model and can compare. I've always liked the camera on the LG's since the G4. The G5 camera was great, but I hated the phone. The G4 had HORRIBLE battery life. The G6 may well be the phone that turns things around for LG, or it may not (for example, LG are pathetic at spending money on marketing). Huawei on the other hand seems to have a bottomless pit of money right now.
Hi there, I've taken quite a few photos with the mate 10 pro. All on automatic settings, but I'm a bit disappointed with the results... when you zoom in a bit (to peoples faces) they look like oil paintings...
I'm on UK C782 ver .124. bought from cpw.
I'm not interested in fannying about with different modes... I'm talking about taking a picture of your kids on auto promptly... they never stand still for more than a couple of seconds, so you don't have time to set exposure, and iso etc etc !!!!
Haven't had an update in months, so am wondering if there are any updates (that might be impending) that improve the camera a bit... was really expecting better from a dual camera Leica setup...
Hoping for some good news
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Hi there, I've taken quite a few photos with the mate 10 pro. All on automatic settings, but I'm a bit disappointed with the results... when you zoom in a bit (to peoples faces) they look like oil paintings...
I'm on UK C782 ver .124. bought from cpw.
I'm not interested in fannying about with different modes... I'm talking about taking a picture of your kids on auto promptly... they never stand still for more than a couple of seconds, so you don't have time to set exposure, and iso etc etc !!!!
Haven't had an update in months, so am wondering if there are any updates (that might be impending) that improve the camera a bit... was really expecting better from a dual camera Leica setup...
Hoping for some good news
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I had this problem with my Mate 10 pro, the only way I managed to solve this issue was to replace the phone with a Pixel 2 Xl!
You might now be thinking "ok smart arse, why are you trolling the M10P threads?"
As much as i like the Pixel, i'm still kinda interested in the M10P and was hoping a firmware update has sorted the oil paintings. Clearly not hence your thread.
One thing you could try is installing the pixel camera apk, its on the forum section somewhere. Guess I'll still with the pixel!
You can enable RAW images. It will take a JPEG and a DNG file with each click. The DNG is unprocessed, so it doesn't have that aggressive NR, but it takes an extra step to get sharable pictures out of it.
Wish NR level is a setting, but unfortunately, it is not. However, it is completely a software issue, so Huawei theoretically can fix it if they feel that their post processing isn't very good. I just doubt that they will. On the other hand, I've seen hacked APKs for the Moto camera app that allowed changes to NR, so that might be a solution in the future.
I do believe this is a software issue... I think the hardware is capable of much more but Huawei has smoothed things way too aggressively... I'm on pretty old firmware (but that's a moan for another thread) so was wondering if any of the guys with newer firmware noticed any improvements...
I have the same issue on my Mate 10 Pro I was literally shocked because I had the Mate 9 before. the camera of the Mate 9 is better than this Version. i really use snapchat a lot and you just can't get any usable pictures with it. even with the main camera the photos Look blurry and Oily? i am very unsatisfied i hope it will get fixed soon ... greetings from Germany
use 'open camera' with the jpeg quality set to highest
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I had this problem with my Mate 10 pro, the only way I managed to solve this issue was to replace the phone with a Pixel 2 Xl!
You might now be thinking "ok smart arse, why are you trolling the M10P threads?"
As much as i like the Pixel, i'm still kinda interested in the M10P and was hoping a firmware update has sorted the oil paintings. Clearly not hence your thread.
One thing you could try is installing the pixel camera apk, its on the forum section somewhere. Guess I'll still with the pixel!
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Strange that you should say that...because I bought a pixel XL 2 - because was frustrated by low quality photos and abysmal updates from Huawei (still running Nov security patch ffs)...
Took similar photos with M10Pro and Pixel XL 2, and Pixel photos blew Mate 10's out of the water.. despite being 12MP as opposed to the 20MP of the M10Pro...
But... I do like the feel of the M10Pro, it's a truly gorgeous device..(feels good in the hand !!, ladies... to quote Flossy Carter)... just wish the camera was that bit better... a dude suggested installing open camera... might give that a whirr... but it's a bit naff that you've got to install a 3rd party camera app coz the supplied one is [email protected]
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hmm.. so much for its "AI" assisted camera. Maybe AI stands for "Artist's Impression!"
so many pics look like an oil painting!
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Strange that you should say that...because I bought a pixel XL 2 - because was frustrated by low quality photos and abysmal updates from Huawei (still running Nov security patch ffs)...
Took similar photos with M10Pro and Pixel XL 2, and Pixel photos blew Mate 10's out of the water.. despite being 12MP as opposed to the 20MP of the M10Pro...
But... I do like the feel of the M10Pro, it's a truly gorgeous device..(feels good in the hand !!, ladies... to quote Flossy Carter)... just wish the camera was that bit better... a dude suggested installing open camera... might give that a whirr... but it's a bit naff that you've got to install a 3rd party camera app coz the supplied one is [email protected]
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I hear ya, It is a great device, has everything I was looking for, IR blaster, Battery, premium build (feels good in the hand, ladies ) but the camera and the updates just killed it for me. Thought I'd dip back in and see how things are going. I recon Huawei will drop this phone now. all hands on the P20 pump!
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hmm.. so much for its "AI" assisted camera. Maybe AI stands for "Artist's Impression!"
so many pics look like an oil painting!
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I hear ya, It is a great device, has everything I was looking for, IR blaster, Battery, premium build (feels good in the hand, ladies ) but the camera and the updates just killed it for me. Thought I'd dip back in and see how things are going. I recon Huawei will drop this phone now. all hands on the P20 pump!
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It's a bummer, do like the phone, but Huawei have a lot to learn from the big boys... I've had one update in 3 months... utter sh!te from Huawei... for all I know the latest firmware could have the best camera on earth.... but until Huawei push it out at their utter glacial pace, it might as well be on the far side of the moon... Hardware isn't everything, without decent software....
thats why now i dont believe in dxo anymore . 97 score ? really ?
falsivas said:
It's a bummer, do like the phone, but Huawei have a lot to learn from the big boys... I've had one update in 3 months... utter sh!te from Huawei... for all I know the latest firmware could have the best camera on earth.... but until Huawei push it out at their utter glacial pace, it might as well be on the far side of the moon... Hardware isn't everything, without decent software....
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I received two updates in the first five weeks of ownership, so can't complain about that aspect. Different regions are getting different tiers of updates, so I'm wondering whether your local carriers have anything to do with the slow availability of updates (i.e., I'm wondering if Huawei is consulting with UK carriers to decide on what's included in the C782 firmware - I'm on C636 and currently up to version 131).
I hadn't really noticed any issues with photos until I came across your thread, and now see that if I zoom right in, I can see the effects overly-aggressive smoothing. This doesn't really pose a problem for me as I've never thought of a mobile 'phone camera as being good for anything more than "happy snaps," but I can understand that some people want better performance (especially given that this is a major selling point of the Mate 10).
I agree that it's very likely only a software issue; hopefully Huawei will allow their developers to wrest themselves away from the View 10 (which seems to be getting the lion's share of software attention at the moment) for long enough to give us a tangible update for the Mate 10.
So with a pixel 2 when a photo is zoomed in, there is no grainy effect either ? If its a choice between grainy and oil painting, for me both are bad and not a reason to specifically complain about Mate 10.
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It's a bummer, do like the phone, but Huawei have a lot to learn from the big boys... I've had one update in 3 months... utter sh!te from Huawei... for all I know the latest firmware could have the best camera on earth.... but until Huawei push it out at their utter glacial pace, it might as well be on the far side of the moon... Hardware isn't everything, without decent software....
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Totally agree, talking of updates, my Honor 8 is stuck on August 2017 security patch. Neither the staff on phones or twitter have an answer as to wether i'll get an update or what the latest version is.
So glad I have the P2XL. Maybe Huawei will get their act together for the M11?!
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people don't look like look like oil pantings with pics taken on my Pixel
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Totally agree, talking of updates, my Honor 8 is stuck on August 2017 security patch. Neither the staff on phones or twitter have an answer as to wether i'll get an update or what the latest version is.
So glad I have the P2XL. Maybe Huawei will get their act together for the M11?!
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people don't look like look like oil pantings with pics taken on my Pixel
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Why do you expect a mid 2016 Huawei's budget priced Honor phone to update security patches every month ?
Android should get their act together first before expecting skinned roms to be easy and frequent as stock android. From a global scale each country has their own roms and every time Android comes with up some minor patch (likley not even an important patch) Huawei and Honor all have to deliver update to their 50+ phone models in 80 different countries ? From a realistic view don't expect any change in update frequency from Huawei until Android from the core has changed first.
My mate 10 being flagship has received its 3rd update since December and i am more than happy. Realistically i know after 1 year the updates gets less frequent and when close to release of the Mate 12 , i don't expect any more than once or twice a year update.
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Why do you expect a mid 2016 Huawei's budget priced Honor phone to update security patches every month ?
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where did I say every month? I do expect patches as Honor sold the phone on the understanding it would receive updates for two years. I take your point though. There is something odd going on with Huawei/Honor distribution. Some like yourself seem to be getting frequent updates. Others like myself are being disappointed. Mine were SIM free so should avoid carrier delays.
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So with a pixel 2 when a photo is zoomed in, there is no grainy effect either ? If its a choice between grainy and oil painting, for me both are bad and not a reason to specifically complain about Mate 10.
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Think you missed the point... Zoom into the pixel 2 xl photos and they're not grainy. Or over processed. They just look good.. Which I was hoping the 20Mp snapper on the m10pro would achieve also considering the quality of the optics
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Think you missed the point... Zoom into the pixel 2 xl photos and they're not grainy. Or over processed. They just look good.. Which I was hoping the 20Mp snapper on the m10pro would achieve also considering the quality of the optics
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As you said before for me is simply a software issue, I hope at list I had a p9 plus before and the photos did't have this watercolor effect when you zoom
Sounds like beauty mode. Sure it's turned off?
this thread is about photo quality and i don't see a single photo here, proof baby proof
tboy2000 said:
Sounds like beauty mode. Sure it's turned off?
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Can't find any beauty settings for rear camera...(have found them on the front facing one and they make a serious difference (smoothing out even my mug))... where is the beauty setting on the rear camera ?
Hey,
After an upgrade of my HTC U11+. A bit stuck to be honest on which one to go with as they all have big pluses and minuses. I think my ideal phone would be the mate 20 pro hardware with pixel software.
Will give my pro's and minuses below, please feel free to comment and advise as you see fit.
Mate 20 pro
++ Big battery
+ Not bad price wise (especially with the free watch)
+ cameras
+ nice colours
- Lack of updates??
Pixel 3 XL
++ best software
+ great camera
+ great update support
+ great speakers
-- average battery life
-expensive
Oneplus 6T (based on rumours
+price
+Smooth UI
+good support
- camera probably wont be as good as the other 2
-speakers wont be as good
+/- battery in the middle
Out of these three I'd definitely go with the Mate 20 Pro. the Pixel is boring and too ugly and no features at all (I wouldn't consider it at all unless I absolutely need their camera) , OP6 is just cheap price but is missing wireless charging, QHD display, IP68, stereo speakers, camera will be just average, AOD display, desktop mode, raise to wake, knuckle gestures, secure face unlock, etc. But if you don't care about those, the OP6 will be faster/smoother than Mate 20 pro and maybe their underdisplay implementation could be a little bit faster but we'll see
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
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No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
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I'm really hopeful that we'll at least get root...... I've preordered the Mate 20 Pro and will be selling my Pixel 2 xl, hope I don't live to regret it! Worst case scenario I'll sell it and switch...
Well Pixel XL 3 is trash. I returned mine after 2 days.
Oneplus 6T is a bang for buck type of phone
Mate 20 Pro I'm having issues getting one imported
Probably didn't help much but aye.
Goronok said:
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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I think you hit the nail on the head regarding honeymoon period. I had (2) P20 Pro's and I loved the hardware/camera, but quickly became annoyed with the fact that EMUI just doesn't "work" as an android phone should. After using MIUI 10 on a Mix 2s for a few weeks, I would say that Xiaomi's derivative feels more natural to use. /sad
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*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Had someone on Reddit confirm that the lockscreen is still the same. Some have said it is a bug, but seems working as intended to me. (Been a "bug" since EMUI 8.1)
I haven't inquired about backgrounding issues. Not much point. This has been a thing with EMUI since day 1. (And other China OEMs too)
Thanks for the replies very helpful. I know the mate 20 pro is the best out of the bunch its whether i can live with EMUI. I had this in the past with samsung s6 edge, loved the phone but hated the software and ended up getting rid of it very quickly. I think if the pixel was £100 cheaper or had a bigger battery i would 100% go with that for the software experience.
The decision would be so much easier if they allowed bootloader unlock and custom roms would solve half the issues! Still no closer to the decision.
A couple of extra points
Mate 20 curved screen will be a pain for glass screen protectors so thats a -
Still cant work out if the UK model is single sim or dual sim! (says its micro sd expandable so is that where the extra sim goes)
I think the camera will be just as good as the pixel...in some ways better because of the wide angle lens etc. The pixel 3 probably will be the best point and shoot but I don't think either will dissapoint you
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
Phil750123 said:
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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See i went with sim free but what got me here is 50 quid more for mate, and free watch and charger is 250, so basically mate is working out 200 quid cheaper and 6gb ram vs the 4 and this massive battey, when pixie 3 battery is sitting at 3400 compared to my pixel 2 xl 3500 with a smaller screen? Impulse buy but hey, if we somehow hate it, or cant get used to it... Swap or sell after few months right? It aint a new car xd
It's very easy : get the pixel 3 and then youll want to get the mate 20 Pro for sure!
Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Pretty excited about this as well, I'm pretty sure I will still average about 6000 mah a day, I almost always charge from like 50 to 90% using wireless charging while at work but for the days I forgot to wireless charge, the fact that even if I get home with less than 5% and just plugging it in for like 15 minutes (instead of like 40 minutes like my note 9) and being back to like 40% to finish the day is amazing.
I agree
Imagine having less than 400 ppi on a €1000 phone in 2019.
Yup, it's terrible. I've had an S7 edge for 3 years before this, and a Nexus 5 before that. I can say I never felt the discomfort that I'm feeling now with this phone in terms of actually seeing pixels in text, images and most of all videos while using my phone.
Since I upgrade my phones every so rarely, I decided I can't really look at a screen this bad for the next 3 years without losing my mind.
Probably will switch to a Mate20 pro at this point.
And yeah, that's that...
Why 398ppi?
I have quite a few complaints about this device after 24 hours but the screen is one of the better aspects to me. Resolution isn't everything.
Things I don't like:
No notification LED bothers me more than I thought it would - possibly because I'm not used to having Huaweis without them
Single speaker setup is a shame
Camera is massively overrated as an auto shooter (again). Can't help but feel that many of the reviewers/influencers on the free Paris trip have let buyers down.
If I turn off the fingerprint for unlocking (eg so as not to light up my room at night) there's a bug where the screen keeps lighting up to unlock every few seconds when charging, even when it's on the bedside away from any humans
EMUI is still not very attractive to me.
The Kirin 980 doesn't seem as powerful as we are led to believe. The Mate 20 Pro I had before this seemed to fall down in browser rendering VS even the Snapdragon 835 for example. Still just as jerky on the P30 Pro.
It's a nice device other than that, and I've no idea why the display resolution would bother anyone.
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Can't help but feel that many of the reviewers/influencers on the free Paris trip have let buyers down.
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This. :good:
Probably the only guy who was honest about the crappy video quality
https://youtu.be/D0dzVvNZMNc?t=1157
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This. :good:
Probably the only guy who was honest about the crappy video quality
https://youtu.be/D0dzVvNZMNc?t=1157
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I bet he doesn't get invited to the next Huawei event ?
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I bet he doesn't get invited to the next Huawei event
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Or maybe he does... and gets ****load of money to say how incredibly wrong he was
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Probably will switch to a Mate20 pro at this point.
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How come you're sticking with Huawei? Is the Mate 20 Pro that good? I also switch phones very rarely, and don't want to be stuck with a crappy one.
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Or maybe he does... and gets ****load of money to say how incredibly wrong he was
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How come you're sticking with Huawei? Is the Mate 20 Pro that good? I also switch phones very rarely, and don't want to be stuck with a crappy one.
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As I said, PPI is a big no no for me. For the rest it does what it has to do ok for me. Battery life is amazing, the cpu is fast/snappy, cameras are awesome for photos (Videos not so much, but I don't care about videos tbh) and the Mate 20 Pro has way better PPI but pretty much same specs and very similar camera.
Plus is the 3d face recognition on it, which is another plus.
Also dual speakers, forgot that, and overall, a more well rounded device than I was expecting the P30 Pro to be
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As I said, PPI is a big no no for me. For the rest it does what it has to do ok for me. Battery life is amazing, the cpu is fast/snappy, cameras are awesome for photos (Videos not so much, but I don't care about videos tbh) and the Mate 20 Pro has way better PPI but pretty much same specs and very similar camera.
Plus is the 3d face recognition on it, which is another plus.
Also dual speakers, forgot that, and overall, a more well rounded device than I was expecting the P30 Pro to be
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Heh, I'm struggling... I can get both of them much cheaper than S10+. Not sure which way to go, photo and video is my primary concern.
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Heh, I'm struggling... I can get both of them much cheaper than S10+. Not sure which way to go, photo and video is my primary concern.
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Then Mate 20 Pro should be a no brainer. There's nothing that the p30 pro does better, besides selfies and 5x zoom. Are those 2 things a priority for you?
If not, then u have ur answer
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Then Mate 20 Pro should be a no brainer. There's nothing that the p30 pro does better, besides selfies and 5x zoom. Are those 2 things a priority for you?
If not, then u have ur answer
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And night shots? And smaller notch? And better fingerprint reader? Those are what led me to the P30 Pro. But hey, each has his own priorities, and I'm not knocking others.
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Imagine having less than 400 ppi on a €1000 phone in 2019.
Yup, it's terrible. I've had an S7 edge for 3 years before this, and a Nexus 5 before that. I can say I never felt the discomfort that I'm feeling now with this phone in terms of actually seeing pixels in text, images and most of all videos while using my phone.
Since I upgrade my phones every so rarely, I decided I can't really look at a screen this bad for the next 3 years without losing my mind.
Probably will switch to a Mate20 pro at this point.
And yeah, that's that...
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Actual discomfort? Are you sitting with your phone 2 inches from your eyes? In that case, I can understand your discomfort.
I checked the p30 pro and Mate 20 pro side by side at the store. The p30 pro display is clearly the brighter one. Despite checking out closely I couldnt find pixelation on the p30 pro. Currently using a mate 10 with 2k display. For sure the p30 pro display is much better than the mate 20 standard version and p20 pro which have 1080p display as well.
And the p30 pro speaker is louder than the mate 20 pro as seen on reviews online.
I love my P30 Pro as well, but I'm also seriously considering returning it for one reason: missing bands. It really sucks that the phone doesn't carry the newer LTE bands for AT&T/TMobile. I've tested and speeds are abysmal compared to my S8+ on the same network in the same area.
Can I live with it? Probably. Do I want to for 2 years? Hmm.
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I love my P30 Pro as well, but I'm also seriously considering returning it for one reason: missing bands. It really sucks that the phone doesn't carry the newer LTE bands for AT&T/TMobile. I've tested and speeds are abysmal compared to my S8+ on the same network in the same area.
Can I live with it? Probably. Do I want to for 2 years? Hmm.
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What version do you have?
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What version do you have?
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Dual-sim from Germany. Supposed to be missing only 2 out of 6 Tmobile bands, but so far making a huge difference in NYC.
Is it model VOG-L04?
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I think you have L29 version which is missing band 66 , the L04 version has.
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Is it model VOG-L04?
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I think you have L29 version which is missing band 66 , the L04 version has.
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And where is that sold? Only place I see it listed is on gsmarena. I don't think it even exists.
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Then Mate 20 Pro should be a no brainer. There's nothing that the p30 pro does better, besides selfies and 5x zoom. Are those 2 things a priority for you?
If not, then u have ur answer
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I can't in good conscience buy something with that big of a notch. It's as bad as having low ppi.
Itaintrite said:
I love my P30 Pro as well, but I'm also seriously considering returning it for one reason: missing bands. It really sucks that the phone doesn't carry the newer LTE bands for AT&T/TMobile. I've tested and speeds are abysmal compared to my S8+ on the same network in the same area.
Can I live with it? Probably. Do I want to for 2 years? Hmm.
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And where is that sold? Only place I see it listed is on gsmarena. I don't think it even exists.
Canada, should have it today
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kzqg said:
And where is that sold? Only place I see it listed is on gsmarena. I don't think it even exists.
Canada, should have it today
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And where is that sold? Only place I see it listed is on gsmarena. I don't think it even exists.
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I can't in good conscience buy something with that big of a notch. It's as bad as having low ppi.
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Yes, VOG-L04 does exist just not called out by model on Huawei Canada site. Clearly shows support for Band 66 :good:
This model is for Canada, Mexico & US (if US wasn't trying to protect Apple by not selling allowing Huawei to sell their phones here..)
I haven't had any connectivity issues where I live since they haven't even started Band 66 tmobile deployment at all in Indiana except up by Gary, IN & Bloomington. I may try to see if I can get one just to switch but that's doubtful unless I can find a non-carrier store to buy from.
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shollywood said:
Yes, VOG-L04 does exist just not called out by model on Huawei Canada site. Clearly shows support for Band 66 :good:
This model is for Canada, Mexico & US (if US wasn't trying to protect Apple by not selling allowing Huawei to sell their phones here..)
I haven't had any connectivity issues where I live since they haven't even started Band 66 tmobile deployment at all in Indiana except up by Gary, IN & Bloomington. I may try to see if I can get one just to switch but that's doubtful unless I can find a non-carrier store to buy from.
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They were just made available yesterday. ALL phones in Canada are unlocked, you'll probably need to cross the border to get one, through a Craigslist or something. May start showing up on Ebay soon though.
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And where is that sold? Only place I see it listed is on gsmarena. I don't think it even exists.
Canada, should have it today
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I stand corrected; thanks for the info. Is it still dual-sim?
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shollywood said:
Yes, VOG-L04 does exist just not called out by model on Huawei Canada site. Clearly shows support for Band 66 :good:
This model is for Canada, Mexico & US (if US wasn't trying to protect Apple by not selling allowing Huawei to sell their phones here..)
I haven't had any connectivity issues where I live since they haven't even started Band 66 tmobile deployment at all in Indiana except up by Gary, IN & Bloomington. I may try to see if I can get one just to switch but that's doubtful unless I can find a non-carrier store to buy from.
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Band 66 would definitely help in my area, does this mean there's a possibility of wifi calling on TMO or ATT? Guessing not, but would like to find out. Although from the sound of it my only option is waiting for one to show up on ebay.
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