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Hey guys
I just installed the leaked AT&T ICS (the CWM version that's been posted), and so far everything's generally great.
However, ever since I upgraded to ICS, my phone has been downloading data like crazy over WiFi. Oddly enough, this has happened on my phone before as well when I was using GB, and I believe it also occurred then right after a reinstall.
It's incredibly annoying because whatever the phone's downloading, it seems like it's using a lot of bandwidth because any other internet-related activities I try and do take *forever*. I've rebooted the phone several times, tried stopping every service that I can, and turned off all auto account sync stuff. It's been several hours since I installed ICS, and it's still going.
I'm going to let it sit overnight and see what it's doing in the morning, but even if this is only a temporary problem it's REALLY annoying. Especially since if it's not done doing whatever it's doing by morning, I won't be able to use cellular data on it because I only have the 200 MB plan and don't feel like losing my entire volume for the month because I can't stop my phone from downloading.
Any ideas as to what's causing this? Like I said I'm pretty sure this isn't an ICS-specific problem because it happened under 2.3.4 also, I just want to be able to shut down whatever's doing this excessive downloading. And I'd love to know *what* exactly is being downloaded that's it's taking so long and using so much bandwidth.
Thanks for any help you guys can lend
If you do switch to data to let it pull it down, you can use the data usage in the settings to see what app is doing it. My Data Manager (free in the Play Store) can also monitor data, on cell data and wifi. That would also tell you what app is doing it.
I would guess you either have a ton of data in your Google account, such as contacts, calendar, Gmail, or you have an app that is trying to sync data down. I'm guessing you are restoring apps, then notice the data draw. Think about any apps you have that may sync data back and forth. If you sign into your Google account at initial set up, it should (depending on settings) automatically download and install your apps. But, that should be apparent, you should see the downloads as it does them app by app.
All that is based on guesses of what I would consider "normal" behavior after installing a new ROM.
Good luck tracking it down. :thumbup:
Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
Settings > Data Usage
Check what is using it, and listing what APKs you added might help.
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If you do switch to data to let it pull it down, you can use the data usage in the settings to see what app is doing it. My Data Manager (free in the Play Store) can also monitor data, on cell data and wifi. That would also tell you what app is doing it.
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Or avoid all that and use the native ICS data monitor.
The weird thing is that I hadn't really done anything to the phone when it started using all the data. My Google account doesn't really have much in it (don't have a ton of contacts, don't use it to back up apps/etc.), and I think the only things I'd done app-wise were updating a couple preinstalled apps (Facebook and Maps, I think), but I hadn't installed anything new yet.
I installed My Data Manager, but it looks like it's already done whatever it was doing. Though, even now the download arrow is constantly lit up on WiFi, but I think whatever it's doing now has something to do with the network I'm on (dorm room) as I've noticed almost constant non-zero download bandwidth being used on my desktop as well when it's on the network. If I turn WiFi off now it isn't constantly using cellular data any more, so thankfully it looks like it's finished with whatever it was doing and the constant WiFi downloading is a network, not phone, issue.
On an unrelated note, I was going to reinstall a tethering app, but figured I'd give a try to the built-in tethering first (don't have a plan). On GB it wouldn't even let me start up the tethering without a plan IIRC, but under ICS the tethering not only starts up, I can even connect my laptop to it. Unfortunately I couldn't get internet access on my laptop though, so I'm guessing there's still a restriction on it. Just found it interesting that you can actually enable the tethering without a plan now.
But there's a more serious problem, however. Is ATT clamping down on third-party tethering? I used to use Barnacle WiFi Tether, so I went to install that from the market. Well, Play tells me the app isn't able to be installed on my device because of carrier restrictions (lame). No problem, I figure, I go to their website and download the apk from there and manually install.
Well, when I try and start tethering using Barnacle, it says "WiFi: Could not set ad-hoc mode of wlan0: Operation not supported on transport endpoint"
Does this mean I'm screwed? Will any third-party tethering apps work? To be honest I'm not really into trying out 5 million different ROMs on my phone and don't really mind TW at all, so I'd prefer to keep it stock. But I use my phone overseas and need to be able to use tethering, and if ATT is really clamping down on third-party apps then I'll be installing a completely stock kernel once one's easily available.
Thoughts? Anyone else experimented with tethering on UCLC2 yet?
Well, never mind regarding the tethering stuff - I'd still be interested anyway to know if ATT is trying to actively prevent you from using it in ICS, but I just flashed the SHOstock2 ROM and I gotta say I'm blown away. Even after using it for a half hour I'm pretty sure I'll never go back to stock again (I'm sure most of you would say DUH to that), has everything I'd want in a ROM and nothing I don't. Default tethering works right out of the box too, so I don't even have to worry about installing another app.
Only kinda weird thing is the data indicator keeps switching between H+ and 3G (I'd post on the actual ROM thread but I don't have 10 posts yet...). I'm only on the 200 MB data plan so I switched it to the wap.cingular APN, but even after doing that it still switches. Data seems fast - and I'm not one to be super-concerned with data speeds since I'm mostly just checking e-mail - so it's not a huge deal, but figured I'd mention it anyway.
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Well, never mind regarding the tethering stuff - I'd still be interested anyway to know if ATT is trying to actively prevent you from using it in ICS, but I just flashed the SHOstock2 ROM and I gotta say I'm blown away. Even after using it for a half hour I'm pretty sure I'll never go back to stock again (I'm sure most of you would say DUH to that), has everything I'd want in a ROM and nothing I don't. Default tethering works right out of the box too, so I don't even have to worry about installing another app.
Only kinda weird thing is the data indicator keeps switching between H+ and 3G (I'd post on the actual ROM thread but I don't have 10 posts yet...). I'm only on the 200 MB data plan so I switched it to the wap.cingular APN, but even after doing that it still switches. Data seems fast - and I'm not one to be super-concerned with data speeds since I'm mostly just checking e-mail - so it's not a huge deal, but figured I'd mention it anyway.
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The data switching is normal. The device idles on 3g to save battery and kicks up to 4g when it needs the speed. Stock roms hide this behavior by showing the 4g icon even on 3g
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Settings > Data Usage
Or avoid all that and use the native ICS data monitor.
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I never thought to press the menu key in there, there is no indication there are more options. By default it doesn't show wifi data, but on my TouchPad running CM9, that's all it shows. Guess I shouldn't have assumed the ICS wouldn't be without menu use fragmentation like every other android version.
Yeah, the data switching on a custom ROM is normal. Just showing you what the phone actually does. It can save power by reverting back to the 3G vs H when you are idle. The first thing most custom ROMs add is tethering on the built in method. If the leak let you start it up, I'm guessing its incomplete. I would bet att does the same in ICS as GB and has an app to check your account before letting you turn on tethering. Att can detect tethering on the back end too, so if you are caught they warn you first, but you can end up being put on the tethering plan if you keep tethering.
Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
Ahh, thanks for the info on the data switching, never knew about that!
I don't use tethering in the US, but I do overseas, which is why I was concerned about ATT blocking tethering apps. However, I realized it's probably not an issue anyway because I'm guessing that tethering wouldn't be blocked with a non-ATT SIM card. Anyway, SHOstock rocks, so it's all good
Also good to know that ICS can monitor WiFi traffic by default - didn't think to hit the settings button on that screen. I gotta admit, that's one huge interface design flaw of Android. There should be some kind of indicator on the screen when there's a menu available, really poor interface design choice to have to hit the menu button randomly to see if any menus are there.
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Also good to know that ICS can monitor WiFi traffic by default - didn't think to hit the settings button on that screen. I gotta admit, that's one huge interface design flaw of Android. There should be some kind of indicator on the screen when there's a menu available, really poor interface design choice to have to hit the menu button randomly to see if any menus are there.
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With new ICS developed devices, most don't include touch buttons... The Nexus for example (using on screen buttons) only shows a menu button when a menu is available...
Cheers.
ALSO- I also noticed what appears to be constant "spurts" of Wifi data usage as well (at least according to my Wifi status bar indicator)... It doesn't seem to affect my Mobile Data, and every data monitoring App (including stock ICS data monitoring) doesn't show the culprit, which leads me to believe that we may be dealing with a system app that is accessing data in the background almost constantly... But only on Wifi. Maybe a location service, or something to do with Syncing? I say system because not even stock Data Monitoring is recognizing an app using data...
Another reason I say this is because I pointlessly wiped my device and started over due to this... "bug"... Only to find that running stock CM9 (with no installed apps) my Wifi indicator still led me to believe my device as downloading spurts of data constantly.
I haven't been able to narrow it down, and am hoping that the issue is fixed in a future software update. - But it is more than likely not an app, just an ICS/CM9 bug.
UPDATE- Just checked a Samsung Epic 4G running CM9 and the bug isn't there... So, it's something specifically within our device and ICS... Again, maybe a System app or Kernel bug...
So I have a Samsung Galaxy Young S6312, rooted and running on stock ROM(jellybean 4.1.2).
I don't have access to unlimited data plans, so I want to keep my data usage to a minimum. So I downloaded 3g watchdog and tracked what was using up my data. And I came to know that Android OS is using up about 50% of my data. In 2 days I used about 90 MB data, out of which 45 MB were chewed by Android OS. I also used Onavo Count, which showed me that on a day when I used 25 MB data, 18 MB was used by Android OS. Please suggest me a solution, this is driving me mad.
P.S : Auto-Sync is turned of my device. I have also turned off Backup of passwords, contacts etc. Also, I don't use Google+ or YouTube on my device. So I don't know what is causing this.
There's a bunch of suggestions here:
http://androidandme.com/thread/android-os-crazy-data-usage/
Unfortunately, there is no ONE fix as different people have the issue for different reasons. Sometimes it's because they're on ICS and there seems to be a bug that affects some phones with it. Sometimes it was syncing, which I know you have off. Sometimes it's Google Play Services. Sometimes it's a 3rd party app or built in stock browser or launcher that reports as Android OS. So yea...seems like a PITA. Maybe running something like this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.shaddow.eventLogger combined with this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm might help shed some light?
If you root, there's firewall apps such as droidwall and afwall which give you control to decide whicch apps should have access to 3g, wifi, including android os, kernel and any system app.
I forgot to mention, I already have a firewall(Android Firewall) enabled, and I use it in whitelist mode, and I have not ticked any app to have internet access other than which I use. I have also not ticked Android System. Yet somehow, inexplicably, Android Os is eating my data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2682714
I use Droidwall for this purpose, now no unwanted data consumption by apps.
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I use Droidwall for this purpose, now no unwanted data consumption by apps.
Sent from my Q700S using xda premium
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OP already mentioned he is using a firewall and hasn't helped.
To that end, maybe trying using it in blacklist mode and check everything, just to see if anything changes?
Tried Blacklist mode today, banned all apps except the ones I use often, but to no avail.........
Why don't you try another rom? See if the problem persists then...
Are you tethering your internet to a computer?
Back when I had Verizon, I hacked my Motorola Droid Razr Maxx (4.1.2) to have free mobile hotspot. I noticed the same thing: that Android OS was using a ton of data. However, the math didn't add up. I had 4gb of data, but when I'd get an overage warning, I'd look at all the numbers, and mobile hotspot and Android OS added up to way more than 4gb. I concluded it was just a glitch, since it was hacked, caused because the software just didn't know how to report it accurately.
For example, I'm currently using a 4.2.2 Samsung phone on T-Mobile (unlimited), and I've used a proverbial #@%$ ton of data doing USB tethering with PdaNet+, yet PdaNet+ doesn't show up as using data. My billing cycle resets on the 7th of each month, and loading up the T-Mobile app, it says I've used 262.66GB of data. On my phone however, it says that I've used 474GB. But Android OS only lists 68.65MB. With my Verizon phone, I used wi-fi tethering. On my T-Mobile phone I use USB tethering (and some Blu Tooth as well). So that could explain that discrepancy, or it could be the different Android versions.
Either way, OBVIOUSLY, something is wrong with the way Androids track data usage when it comes to tethering. If you tether, my advice to you would be to actually add up everything listed in the data usage, and then compare it to what your provider says you've used. I have no clue what it's like in India, but in the US, every major provider gives you an account app that, among other things like payments and plan changes, tracks your data/messaging/minutes usage. If tethering is the culprit, go by what your provider says, NOT by what your phone says.
If you don't tether, I don't know what the heck the problem could be.
Well, that certainly explains a lot. I DO use tethering rather a lot, so I guess the amount of data I use on tethering shows up as Android OS. Thanks for explaining this out to me.
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Well, that certainly explains a lot. I DO use tethering rather a lot, so I guess the amount of data I use on tethering shows up as Android OS. Thanks for explaining this out to me.
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I'm glad I could ease your mind.
You needn't read this thread. There is nothing of any import here.
I was unable to learn how to delete it, or I would have.
As I mentioned below, I manually updated this phone to Nougat using the LG Bridge program. It complicates matters that I can't remember the exact time-frame for issues. I do remember getting real-time traffic updates using google maps even after I upgraded to Android 7. And I did stream Netflix once while on a 12 hour roadtrip, but I can't remember if that was before or after the road-trip. I have found and tried many APN's for the H2O service. Some are supposedly specifically for the G5, others just for mms or internet. Most recently, I did a factory reset after backing up my personal data and media. Twice now actually. The first time, I ran the backup software soon after resetting and when things hadn't changed, I surmised that maybe I was just importing the problem back onto the phone in my settings or something, so I reset again and this time only chose two of the settings categories near the top of the list since they seemed separate to the navigation programming.
I'm going to reset again now and see if the maps work with a stock setup, then see if I can slowly add things one at a time and continually monitor the data functionality.
If a moderator sees this and can delete this post, I would appreciate it since it doesn't seem like it could be helpful to anyone else the way it is. If I am successful in getting the data working and this thread still remains, I will post the process I had followed to achieve that in an "Issue Solved" heading at the bottom. Everything between the snowflakes (*****) is the older post and edits.
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History of Issue(s):
>This is my first smartphone and my first Android device
> Bought phone used off swappa running MM 6.?
>Have owned phone for around 8 months
>Volume down button wasn't working, figured I could live with pressing vol up and moving it down manually.
> Thought it would be good idea to upgrade manually to Nougat (10h update) Using LG bridge (about 5 months ago?)
> My carrier is H2Owireless, an AT&T MVNO
> Used to have internet, google maps real-time traffic used to work, Netfilx used to work (both without WiFi).
> Could make calls, send texts, listen to Pandora or Spotify and use my Maps for commuting to work.
> Couldn't send MMS pic msgs.
> Began to learn about APN's and what the different network settings did.
>Tried many APN's and fotzed around with Global, LTE/CDMA, LTE/GSM/UMTS and the submode settings
>Can get 4G and LTE , often have to switch back to Global setting to send SMS/MMS
> Had H2O set up APN as best they knew and network settings to what they felt would work best
> Can do anything and evrything when Wifi is enabled (that's never been an issue)
> I thought phone had bricked about 2 months ago while on a roadtrip.
> Discovered on forum that I could swap cam plus for chin and power on that way.
> Turned out power button was no longer functional
> Learned about vol up + charger to power on phone (use an app to power off and restart phone)
> took off cam plus so I could have phone in case.
And now, I'm standing at the edge of a very deep rabbit hole with a phone that can't use mobile data for most internet access (spotify works, Pandora never worked very well). I've discovered that the version of Nougat I'm running is problematic (update 10h Brightpoint) and that my forcing the update to Nougat might be largely responsible for these issues.
I see myself having a choice between learning how to flash the phone back to Marshmallow, or learning how to flash it up to update 21c... or live without mobile data for most of the functionality I wanted from the phone...
I seek advice from the the forum for which of these options people think I might best choose. Do I need to acquaint myself with these programs used to flash the ROM? Does it seem to you readers that my problems are symptomatic of those which are best rectified by flashing up? Or rolling back to Marshmallow...
I just want to be able to google something while I'm away from wifi.. to get traffic updates while I'm using the navigation.. to listen to spotify.. maybe even watch something on netflix... (calling, SMS and MMS functionality is a given, but I do still have them for the most part).
I can pick things up if I read tutorials / guides... I've flashed PC BIOS before... I could figure it out if I needed to...
But maybe I just need a new chin or clean it? Maybe I should factory reset? Maybe there's other potential causes I'm unaware of?
Any and all suggestions are welcome. It's late here and I won't be reading any responses until tomorrow at work.
Thanking you very much in advance. --Wayne
Edit: I was about to check LG Bridge to see if there was an update available for nougat.. thought I would get this out there first since I was pretty sure I wouldn't get both done tonight..
3rd edit: I checked for LG update, nothing available. I finally decided to factory reset before getting into flashing. That seemed to fix the google maps issue as it seemed to be working without WiFi enabled (I say 'seemed' because my office is slightly below grade and getting a good signal is tough. If it's not working, the address remains grayed out and the connection just buffers, the address filled in after the reset. Then I decided to move some of the things I had backed up from the SD card but neglected to deselect the settings box. After restoring much of what I had backed up, It seemed more like how it had been before the reset. I noticed a small icon next to the signal type and strength meter at the top which hadn't been there before the reset (a small white square with rounded edges that has a zig-zag line going through it that kind of looks like a jagged "N"). Instead of saying offline, the app says poor connection, so I will test it on my way home.. I am hopeful. It seems promising. If I have to reset again, I will deselect settings and set things up fresh; I think that will help. I am beginning to think this isn't so much about my OS or any hardware failure as it is the H2O at&t mvno being throttled or something similar. Even when I'm getting 4 bars of 4G, the maps loads very slowly.. nothing at all like it does on WiFi.
I'll post a final edit after I try it out on the ride home this evening.
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Happened today. Was peacefully browsing internet with Chrome using my mobile data when suddenly I lost access to the internet. No messages shown on screen or anything.
Chrome won't load pages, showing the DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NO_INTERNET error code. All other apps that use the internet immediately show an error saying theres no internet access. Additionally, when I ping a remote address (eg. 8.8.8.8) via terminal, I'm getting spammed with "Destination Port Unreachable" so much that the terminal app hangs and I have to force close it.
I already confirmed it's not a carrier issue, other SIM cards show the same issue on this phone, when all of them works on a different device. I tried changing between 2G/3G/4G, reinstalling my carrier's VPN profile for internet connectivity, staying in airplane mode for about 10 minutes (per carrier's recommendation), also tried restarting the phone and even wiping the cache partition.
WiFi internet works fine, so does the rest of my mobile functionalities (SMS, calling). Any ideas about that one?
There are many reports of this happening. It has something to do with the fragile antenna connector/wire. You'll have to open the back cover and check if the wire integrity and connector is intact.
If you are in warranty, send it straight to service center.
WiFi and Bluetooth are on one chip. So if one works, the other should work too.
Cellular is on separate chip.
Good luck my friend. I hope you can get your phone fixed.
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There are many reports of this happening. It has something to do with the fragile antenna connector/wire. You'll have to open the back cover and check if the wire integrity and connector is intact.
If you are in warranty, send it straight to service center.
WiFi and Bluetooth are on one chip. So if one works, the other should work too.
Cellular is on separate chip.
Good luck my friend. I hope you can get your phone fixed.
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That's strange, I'd think a loose antenna connection would not be picky about only impacting internet connectivity but not phone calls and messaging?
Either way I can have a look at this, never opened the back cover on this phone, I assume it doesn't void warranty?
Okay, since I was only evaluating MIUI 11 (flashed it a few days after release) and there were already a few things that annoyed me with it, I decided to pull the proverbial trigger and switch to something else.
And I'm glad that I did, giving LineageOS 16 a try (build 17.11.19) and mobile data is now working exactly like it used to do Good news, since it doesn't seem to be a hardware issue, but also bad news, since it seems like MIUI 11 has some sort of an internal issue that can permanently (?) break mobile data. Well, I'm not willing to put up with it, hopefully somebody else more skilled than me can discover what could have been wrong
guys, i just lost my data connection. 4G logo is available but no internet. I swap from Sim1 to Sim2 slot also the same. I have tested my simcard with iphone 6 and it is working.
When enabling mobile data, the UI crashes. And restart. And crashes again.
The only way to stop this is by completely wipe the phone then reinstall everything. But the problem will come again.
It's quite annoying I must admit :crying:.
Weirdly, it does this only when I'm not connected to any wifi network (in case you need to know)
My phone is a rooted Galaxy S6 (zerofltexx) on a custom version of Resurrection Remix 7 (Android 9 Pie) (xda thread here).
Here's the log file (matlog) in case you need it .
Thanks for your help, if you have any question, ask me :good:.
Hello!
My wife is having the exact same problem. Oneplus6T, RROS A9, not rooted, no gapps, on Tmobile. Ran great for a couple of years then systemUI would crash, apparently randomly. (Moved to Oneplus6T forum)
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Hello!
My wife is having the exact same problem. Oneplus6T, RROS A9, not rooted, no gapps, on Tmobile. Ran great for a couple of years then systemUI would crash, apparently randomly. (Moved to Oneplus6T forum)
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You Google the bug? I found this and many other threads https://community.oneplus.com/wap/thread?id=1400319
@joke19:
Thanks for your reply. Yes I have quite some time in looking for similar situations. There are at least two on xda with A9 but different phones. I don't think its a OnePlus issue but others here know more than me for sure.
FIXED. Unbelievable, The common thread in my logs, at least, and some others here is caused by a bug in the implementation of mobile data per-app restrictions. On A9 Lineage and RROS roms, at least.
https://gitlab.com/LineageOS/issues/android/-/issues/2514
From the catlog, adjacent (near) to the fatal exception crash entries:
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: command '42 bandwidth addrestrictappsondata rmnet_data1 10073' failed with '500 42 Unknown bandwidth cmd'
The bug is the inability to process the bandwidth restriction.
I found the clock app had network restrictions. Why a clock needs access is beyond me, however drilling down from "Settings, "network and internet". "mobile network", "app data usage" and tapping on the apps listed there, there are toggles for cellular data and background data. For my clock app, these were off. Enabling these, and reconnecting to mobile data, no more crashes (so far).
UUGH.
Hope this helps someone. This is an old rom for certain but the phone was and is working well on it. Probably should have reflashed a newer os but found the culprit at least.