Anyone who uses a China Mainland rom of Emui Huawei phone with google apps should at this point be used to glitches, location history unusable, google now screen doesnt refresh, google backup disabled in favour of emui cloud, broken safety net in Betas, spotty Google pay integration... The list goes on.
But the most annoying problem imo is the inability to use Google assistant in voice match. Thanks to some mysterious problem most likely related to huaweis voice assistant (hivoice, yoyo, emy are basically all the same thing). Google assistant voice match is disabled and greyed out for Chinese mainland emui roms. I can say this affect all phones because I have personally tested 5 (mate s, mate 9 pro, p10 plus, P20 pro, mate 20 pro) running emui 4 to emui 9.
No conventional debugging method on Google's forums, from uninstalling to factory reset (short of replacing emui with a new custom rom, I tried that too) can fix this issue.
This issue seemed to have not gained as much attention as it needs as people seems to frequently mistake this for other, easily fixable issues and post their greviences under those posts, and are promptly directed to common, not useful debug steps.
This is a very detrimental problem for an otherwise relatively enjoyable hardware experience, and despite the amount of people experiencing this issue (people post about this a lot in Google's product forums but rarely gets a proper response). There has been no real solution or explanation.
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I have already posted it in another post. I noticed on my Honor View 10 that there is a connection between the Private Space and the Google Assistant. Whenever I have used the private space and then switched back to the normal account, the Assistant will then click out. It was also reproducible on my phone, but I can not say how it is related. Since the soft and hardware of the Huawei and Honor phones are similar, I thought it helps here. I have now deleted the private space and restarted the phone. After I have not used private space after the last reboot, the assistant works since yesterday without problems.
Regards Ralf.
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Hi,
I have already posted it in another post. I noticed on my Honor View 10 that there is a connection between the Private Space and the Google Assistant. Whenever I have used the private space and then switched back to the normal account, the Assistant will then click out. It was also reproducible on my phone, but I can not say how it is related. Since the soft and hardware of the Huawei and Honor phones are similar, I thought it helps here. I have now deleted the private space and restarted the phone. After I have not used private space after the last reboot, the assistant works since yesterday without problems.
Regards Ralf.
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On chinese roms (model AL00 and Al10 huawei) google assistant voice activition is broken in general. Third party apps do not play well with private space, as it is essentially like a sandbox environment.
FricklerB said:
Hi,
I have already posted it in another post. I noticed on my Honor View 10 that there is a connection between the Private Space and the Google Assistant. Whenever I have used the private space and then switched back to the normal account, the Assistant will then click out. It was also reproducible on my phone, but I can not say how it is related. Since the soft and hardware of the Huawei and Honor phones are similar, I thought it helps here. I have now deleted the private space and restarted the phone. After I have not used private space after the last reboot, the assistant works since yesterday without problems.
Regards Ralf.
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Huawei and honor are the same thing, hardware and software. However there is a massive difference in terms of software between mainland China and outside huawei/honor software, including lack of launcher changing, hivoice which replaces Google assistant, lack of location sharing capability as huawei does not use Google location services in China software, as well as more bloatware and less privacy. The screen time management on China roms also activates a Chinese vpn that essentially blocks everything that is also blocked in China, fb, Google the whole shabam.
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I use restricted user profiles on the S3 to only allow my children to only access a restricted list of apps I download from the Play Store. It seems that any NEW apps that I download from the play store after the Oreo update do not show up in the list of apps (Settings > Cloud and accounts > Users, select a restricted user).
I did a factory reset this morning, and still no luck. Now only stock apps show up.
I chatted with Samsung this morning, and they want me to take it to the local walk-in Samsung clinic to have it looked at. This seems like a software issue - not a hardware issue. Perhaps Oreo changes the way this feature works - and it is an android issue not a Samsung one?
As a troubleshooting step, would any of you be willing to setup a restricted account on your S3, download a few play store apps and see if they show up to be able to enabled for the restricted account? No matter what I do, only the stock apps show up. It would be helpful to know if others have the problem as well.
I'm having the same problem, we're you able to find a solution? Only happened after the oreo update.
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I'm having the same problem, we're you able to find a solution? Only happened after the oreo update.
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Thank you for reporting your experience with this to this thread. No solution as of yet. Now that I know someone else is having the same issue, I will try Samsung support again and let them know it is a problem with Oreo for all users - not just my tablet. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the best we can hope for is that it gets Samsung's attention to be included in the next update - which will likely be some time from now.
Update: I installed the Smart Tutor app from the Play Store which allowed a Samsung Support rep to see the issue. They agreed that it was not working as it should and opened issue ticket #2194272620. Hopefully this ticket will allow the issue to be noticed and fixed in a future update.
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Thank you for reporting your experience with this to this thread. No solution as of yet. Now that I know someone else is having the same issue, I will try Samsung support again and let them know it is a problem with Oreo for all users - not just my tablet. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the best we can hope for is that it gets Samsung's attention to be included in the next update - which will likely be some time from now.
Update: I installed the Smart Tutor app from the Play Store which allowed a Samsung Support rep to see the issue. They agreed that it was not working as it should and opened issue ticket #2194272620. Hopefully this ticket will allow the issue to be noticed and fixed in a future update.
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Thanks for the quick follow up! It's good that they finally acknowledged the issue at least.
Stumbled upon pretty much the same issue when I wanted to create a new restricted user account.
Before the update to Oreo; I had already a restricted account. That one has still the possibility to change the 'run' permission for apps. Not sure if it also works for new installed - I haven't tested that.
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I had already a restricted account. That one has still the possibility to change the 'run' permission for apps. Not sure if it also works for new installed - I haven't tested that.
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My experience was that new installed apps would not show up for the existing restricted accounts.
It will be interesting to see if the Tab S4 has this same problem
Hi all together!
Same problem here! This is a mandatory feature for me to share the tablet with my kids. Seems that the oreo update ****ed it up.
The bored Samsung support guy asked me to do a factory reset, and now, after 3 hours of configuration it still doesn't work.
Grrr !!! before the factory reset I had at least these apps working in the restricted profile I configured under android 7.
And ideas? Any update from Samsung ticket you opened?
Regards from cologne, Germany
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No new ideas. I am USA but I noticed the korea build was a bit newer so I tried installing that. That didn't help but was interesting.
My understanding from the Samsung rep was that others could call and give the ticket number to get status and add a
"Me too" to it and that may help it get more attention
Having same issue on my Galaxy Tab S3 after Android 8.0.0 install. Did factor reset and still not working. Contacted Samsung using a Samsung Community of "Restricted Profile - New Apps not listed in App and Content Access Menu" and after Samsung suggesting a factory reset, which did not fix problem, they private messaged me to contact Google. I am struggling as there appears to be no way to contact Google for a response other than the mounds of help websites that do not acknowledge or provide fixes. As a parent who is trying to restrict my children's use of tablet to choke off internet and inappropriate items, I am at a loss for now and my kids are whining that they cannot play on any new apps without bugging me to let them use my signon; totally unacceptable.,
Same problem (Samsung Galaxy Tab A6, android oreo 8.1). Completely ruins my restricted account setup for the kids. They're not happy and neither am I!
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"Same problem (Samsung Galaxy Tab A6, android oreo 8.1). Completely ruins my restricted account setup for the kids. They're not happy and neither am I!"
Give restricted account permission to use chrome and search for the app you require as an apk. Then install from that.
99% of apps can be found as an apk so it works as a solution until android gets there acts together and sorts it out.
Same here. I just upgraded my Galaxy Tab 10 A6 T580 to Oreo 8.1.
My kids keep asking when they can get the tablet back...
Same problem here after the Oreo update.
Old restricted accounts still have their previously enabled apps, new restricted accounts only get standard Google/Samsung apps.
New apps installed under Oreo from the Play Store do not show up in the app restrictions list.
Somehow, as restricted users also cannot use the Play Store directly, how are they supposed to get any app other than the standard ones?
This is a bug, not a feature.
If it should prevail, I will dump my Android devices and get Apple iOS phones/tablets for the rest of the family.
Same problem here too. I installed few apps after i upgraded my Galaxy Tab 10 A6 T580 to Oreo 8.1. They are not shown..so even resetted the device. Now all is gone on the redtricted users...
My kids also want to get the tablet back...
If anyone has a solution...pls let me know how!
I talked to the Samsung Germany support on Thursday. They know about and acknowledged the problem, however, there is no cure. The technician I talked to hypothesized about the upcoming Android P (roll-out to Samsung devices is planned for 2019) may fix the issue.
The point is, restricted users may also not use the Play Store to install new apps, so in effect, there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to get any apps except the standard stock apps into a restricted user's account. That does not make any sense at all.
Unless this is really intended (making the restricted account option useless), this looks like a gross oversight in QA on behalf of Samsung.
I'll see how this develops. My immediate solution is to use MobileFence to restrict my kids' accounts on mobiles and tablets (working with normal user accounts).
--j.
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Having same issue on my Galaxy Tab S3 after Android 8.0.0 install. Did factor reset and still not working. Contacted Samsung using a Samsung Community of "Restricted Profile - New Apps not listed in App and Content Access Menu" and after Samsung suggesting a factory reset, which did not fix problem, they private messaged me to contact Google. I am struggling as there appears to be no way to contact Google for a response other than the mounds of help websites that do not acknowledge or provide fixes. As a parent who is trying to restrict my children's use of tablet to choke off internet and inappropriate items, I am at a loss for now and my kids are whining that they cannot play on any new apps without bugging me to let them use my signon; totally unacceptable.,
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Same problem, Galaxy Tab A 10.5 (2018), Android 8.1.0 - massively frustrating!
Same problem here - is there any point in contacting Samsung to log this?
Any work around anyone can recommend? We use the tablets for a lot of lessons and set reading and the kids can't even access Kindle on it any more. I saw someone recommended Mobile Fence already, thanks.
It's causing major family tension because of how it's affecting Minecraft too. Huge frustrations.
Same here. I wonder why restricted user feature persists, it is useless now. A can assign only application installed before upgrade to Android 7.x, now on 8.1 and still no new app for assigning to restricted user.
Samsung Tab A6 (2016).
Same problem, subscribing to thread just to be able to see if there is any resolution.
Can someone point me to a thread/blog for guiding me to completely de-google an android phone(except the OS itself of course)? Basically I have a Samsung S8+ \ that I don't use anymore and I would like to give to a relative in China. With my past experience, I had no problem by-passing the GFW for getting the phones up to date when I visit, but for an average user and long term use inside mainland China, an android phone with default google services installed makes it almost unusable since all the google services are blocked within China.
If can be done without root, that would be ideal(adb?). If it must rooted, then that's OK too. thank you for your input!
I don't know if it's still allowed to do that,
but considered disabling the google service. Google, Youtube, Google +, Hangouts, Photos, Drive, etc...
Just bought the vivo iqoo pro from China, and using it in Canada.
initally your timeline was good in google map after the installation of the google play service and google map from vivo app market. For some reasons, the your timeline stopped working, and found the location hitsory is off, and not available in Canada. After checking the google play service version that had been upgraded to the latest version.
the only solution is to uninstall the latest version of the google service play, and reinstall the original vivo version of the google play service, then the google map returned back to work. however, the google play service upgrading cannot be stopped intentionally, it looks like automatically upgraded by the system evenif stop the app update in the google play store...
So far i have to uninstall and reinstall the google play service every other day for keeping the google map running... any good solution or the alternative app that similar as your timeline in the google map and share the location with others?
I guess this is not only happened in vivo, also on other devices the ROM from China, anyone has the similar issue and what is the workaround...?
Thanks!
I also have an Iqoo Pro and its telling me that location history for Ireland is "not available in this country", is that what you are talking about? I've looked over my "your timeline" and I have no Entries since i got this phone back in September, Its not something that I'd use to look back over where I've been and the routes taken. My maps works well and I use Waze also, However I went into Goog maps on my laptop here and my timeline history is on so its definitely the phone, but to answer your earlier question, no I don't have a workaround to an issue i didn't know i had, Did you contact Vivo to ask them ?
same here. i think its because our device is not certificated by Google
Any solution for this? Have same problem with iqoo 9 pro
Hello there, i live in Turkey and i m planning to buy Vivo X80 from Taobao.com
Seems like its Chinese version and i couldn't find any answer if i buy this version will i have bear tons of problems such as connection mobile network, installing banking apps etc. ?
And according to vivo official website, there is no way to install global rom to chinese version. is this true or there are someway as unofficial way?
is there any experiance have you got before such like this?
I have the Vivo X Note, which was released a few weeks before the Vivo X80. They both have the same Chinese Origin OS operating system. Some developers on this forum are working on a method to unlock the bootloader and flash the global FunTouch operating system on the Vivo X70. Once they have finished their work the method should work for other devices using the Origin OS Ocean operating system. As for using the Chinese Origin OS operating system, I'm in Canada where the working language is English, and I haven't had any problems. I connect to the local 5G network and my banking apps and Google Pay work fine. My carrier would not enable VoLTE functions on the phone, but that is because of their policy to only enable VoLTE on devices purchased from them. Most European carriers allow VoLTE on these phones, but if VoLTE is important to you (you need it if you travel to the United States where they have shut down 3G networks) then you should check with your carrier before purchasing the phone. Almost all Google services work on the phone - ie Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, etc., but although you can tap the microphone icon in Google Assistant and then issue it voice commands, it won't respond to "OK Google" voice activation because the phone has its own Chinese voice assistant built-in, which can be disabled, but not replaced. Google Backup, and Google Maps Timeline won't work, but those were the only limitations I've run into. I also found that if you replace the default Vivo Messages app with Google Messages you won't receive notifications when the phone is in dark mode. I replaced the default app with Next SMS and it does receive notifications in dark mode.
I got vivo x fold in the US
And I can tell you almost everything works under CN version ROM
except Android Auto which requires root, currently there is no good solution for rooting VIVO. just let it be I think
I'm thinking of buying the x80 pro but Chinese version ..
tell me android auto does it work for you? for me it is very important that works!
Android Auto, Google Maps history/timeline, Google backup won't work, and although you can tap on the microphone icon and use voice commands in Google Assistant, you can't open it by voice (OK Google). Google Messages notifications don't work in system wide dark mode. Make sure your carrier will enable VoLTE on the phone, some won't.
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How do you buy from taobao? Do they deliver outside china?
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How do you buy from taobao? Do they deliver outside china?
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必须使用国际快递，我是中国人，我在中国
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Android Auto, Google Maps history/timeline, Google backup won't work, and although you can tap on the microphone icon and use voice commands in Google Assistant, you can't open it by voice (OK Google). Google Messages notifications don't work in system wide dark mode. Make sure your carrier will enable VoLTE on the phone, some won't.
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Hi, and with the globlal version will all that works ? thank you!!
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Hi, and with the globlal version will all that works ? thank you!!
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Sorry, I have the Chinese firmware so I'm not sure.
Anyone having Google Wallet not working after the last update? Cn version
frcraig said:
I have the Vivo X Note, which was released a few weeks before the Vivo X80. They both have the same Chinese Origin OS operating system. Some developers on this forum are working on a method to unlock the bootloader and flash the global FunTouch operating system on the Vivo X70. Once they have finished their work the method should work for other devices using the Origin OS Ocean operating system. As for using the Chinese Origin OS operating system, I'm in Canada where the working language is English, and I haven't had any problems. I connect to the local 5G network and my banking apps and Google Pay work fine. My carrier would not enable VoLTE functions on the phone, but that is because of their policy to only enable VoLTE on devices purchased from them. Most European carriers allow VoLTE on these phones, but if VoLTE is important to you (you need it if you travel to the United States where they have shut down 3G networks) then you should check with your carrier before purchasing the phone. Almost all Google services work on the phone - ie Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, etc., but although you can tap the microphone icon in Google Assistant and then issue it voice commands, it won't respond to "OK Google" voice activation because the phone has its own Chinese voice assistant built-in, which can be disabled, but not replaced. Google Backup, and Google Maps Timeline won't work, but those were the only limitations I've run into. I also found that if you replace the default Vivo Messages app with Google Messages you won't receive notifications when the phone is in dark mode. I replaced the default app with Next SMS and it does receive notifications in dark mode. drift boss
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Whenever the system-wide dark mode is activated, Google Messages notifications stop functioning. Check with your service provider to make sure the phone can use VoLTE, as not all of them do.
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I have the Vivo X Note, which was released a few weeks before the Vivo X80. They both have the same Chinese Origin OS operating system. Some developers on this forum are working on a method to unlock the bootloader and flash the global FunTouch operating system on the Vivo X70. Once they have finished their work the method should work for other devices using the Origin OS Ocean operating system. As for using the Chinese Origin OS operating system, I'm in Canada where the working language is English, and I haven't had any problems. I connect to the local 5G network and my banking apps and Google Pay work fine. My carrier would not enable VoLTE functions on the phone, but that is because of their policy to only enable VoLTE on devices purchased from them. Most European carriers allow VoLTE on these phones, but if VoLTE is important to you (you need it if you travel to the United States where they have shut down 3G networks) then you should check with your carrier before purchasing the phone. Almost all Google services work on the phone - ie Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, etc., but although you can tap the microphone icon in Google Assistant and then issue it voice commands, it won't respond to "OK Google" voice activation because the phone has its own Chinese voice assistant built-in, which can be disabled, but not replaced. Google Backup, and Google Maps Timeline won't work, but those were the only limitations I've run into. I also found that if you replace the default Vivo Messages app with Google Messages you won't receive notifications when the phone is in dark mode. I replaced the default app with Next SMS and it does receive notifications in dark mode.
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So glad I found your answer! So regarding the Google map timeline. Since Google map still works on vivo, can I still view the current map timeline if I log in from another platform, like a laptop web browser?
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So glad I found your answer! So regarding the Google map timeline. Since Google map still works on vivo, can I still view the current map timeline if I log in from another platform, like a laptop web browser?
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Good question. I’m travelling right now, but when I’m back to Halifax Wednesday I’ll see if my trip shows up when I sign into Google Maps on my desktop computer.
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Good question. I’m travelling right now, but when I’m back to Halifax Wednesday I’ll see if my trip shows up when I sign into Google Maps on my desktop computer.
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Hey, were you able to see your timeline on Google maps from your desktop browser? Thanks
Just back from a week in Western Canada. I had the Vivo with me and used Google Maps during the trip, but none of it shows up in my Timeline when I sign into Google Maps on my Windows desktop.
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Just back from a week in Western Canada. I had the Vivo with me and used Google Maps during the trip, but none of it shows up in my Timeline when I sign into Google Maps on my Windows desktop.
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Thank you so much for your help! I was definitely not expecting that answer. It is certainly something for me to take in consideration before purchasing. Thanks again!
frcraig said:
I have the Vivo X Note, which was released a few weeks before the Vivo X80. They both have the same Chinese Origin OS operating system. Some developers on this forum are working on a method to unlock the bootloader and flash the global FunTouch operating system on the Vivo X70. Once they have finished their work the method should work for other devices using the Origin OS Ocean operating system. As for using the Chinese Origin OS operating system, I'm in Canada where the working language is English, and I haven't had any problems. I connect to the local 5G network and my banking apps and Google Pay work fine. My carrier would not enable VoLTE functions on the phone, but that is because of their policy to only enable VoLTE on devices purchased from them. Most European carriers allow VoLTE on these phones, but if VoLTE is important to you (you need it if you travel to the United States where they have shut down 3G networks) then you should check with your carrier before purchasing the phone. Almost all Google services work on the phone - ie Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, etc., but although you can tap the microphone icon in Google Assistant and then issue it voice commands, it won't respond to "OK Google" voice activation because the phone has its own Chinese voice assistant built-in, which can be disabled, but not replaced. Google Backup, and Google Maps Timeline won't work, but those were the only limitations I've run into. I also found that if you replace the default Vivo Messages app with Google Messages you won't receive notifications when the phone is in dark mode. I replaced the default app with Next SMS and it does receive notifications in dark mode.
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I’m in Canada as well I was offered to trade in my current phone iPhone 13 Pro Max 256gb for this vivo x80 pro … but after checking this forum I’m actually worried I was offered the CN version snapdragon with Origin OS 3 … I’m fairly comfortable with mods and chines phone owned some in the past but I was wondering in today’s day would the x80 pro still be a reliable phone to use here in canada ?
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Hello there, i live in Turkey and i m planning to buy Vivo X80 from Taobao.com
Seems like its Chinese version and i couldn't find any answer if i buy this version will i have bear tons of problems such as connection mobile network, installing banking apps etc. ?
And according to vivo official website, there is no way to install global rom to chinese version. is this true or there are someway as unofficial way?
is there any experiance have you got before such like this?
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Buying a Chinese version of the Vivo X80 from Taobao may cause problems with mobile network connections and installing banking apps. It's true that there is no official way to install a global ROM on a Chinese version, but there may be unofficial methods. It's important to research and consider the risks before making a purchase.
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The Xiaomi Home app suffers from a problem with PUSH notifications not working. It is likely that the problem has been present for many years.
The problem is well known and widely commented on the internet both on forums and in comments on Google Play. For example https://c.mi.com/thread-3056817-1-0.html
At least part of the problem is due to the smartphone shutting down Xiaomi Home to save energy. Nevertheless, a large number of the reports come from people who are aware of how to configure the smartphone to not close the app.
An example of such a post accurately describing the problem is https://community.oneplus.com/thread?id=1455606
Searching the Internet, I discovered that people from all over the world are experiencing this problem. I found the problem described in English, French, Spanish and Italian forums. Interestingly, it also affects Xiaomi smartphone users. Multi-screen discussion and unfortunately no solutions.
My observations - PUSH notifications work on Bluestack (Android 7.x)
Xiaomi does not seem to notice the mentioned problem. I write on the XDA Forums because there are people here who have a good understanding of how Android works.
Questions for you guys:
- How to debug the problem to draw any conclusions? Determine what is failing.
- Is it possible that the problem is due to some kind of US/China sanctions?
- I have heard that PUSH notifications work differently on the Chinese market, they don't use Google's dedicated service there. Could this be related?
As far as I know, PUSH notifications do work differently on the Chinese market. The GCM/FCM as well as other Google's dedicated services do not work.
Possibly. However, it still seems very strange to me that Xiaomi sells devices tailored to, for example, the European market, has European servers and the app distributed by Google Play uses the PUSH system operating in the Chinese market.
Sounds quite unlikely, given the huge popularity of Xiaomi hardware outside China.
However, if this is true then Xiaomi Home probably supports only MiPush http://mipush.global.xiaomi.com/ so we would need something like a wrapper for MiPush to send notifications to GCM/FCM. Unfortunately I'm not an Android developer.
It still puzzles me why I was getting notifications from Xiaomi Home on Bluestacks 4 running Android 7.x. It looks like some mechanism compatible with other markets is implemented - just not working with newer Android?
Additional information: Notifications work on Xiaomi Mi 6 - Android 9
i have same issue.
any solution yet ?
i followed all steps in this video twice and didnt work
None of the old solutions work. Xiaomi Home does not like some regions. For example, European Android devices (from version 10 I think) present themselves with the region 'eea'. Xiaomi Home does not accept this ( three-letter problem?) region - initiating push notifications crashes, as you can see in the logs (see link below).
I think the closest to solving the problem is this answer https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/missing-push-notifications.4133417/
You can of course change the region in Android, but this requires root and is rather pointless. Other apps may not work properly.
I suppose it would take 1 day to fix the app. Why hasn't Xiaomi fixed this for several years? It remains a mystery.
If anyone knows a way to change the region without root, just for one application then please let me know.
Any solution yet? Still no notifications with oneplus 9 pro and android 13. I have done any "fix" I have found and nothing.