Anyone who uses a China Mainland rom of Emui Huawei phone with google apps should at this point be used to glitches, location history unusable, google now screen doesnt refresh, google backup disabled in favour of emui cloud, broken safety net in Betas, spotty Google pay integration... The list goes on.
But the most annoying problem imo is the inability to use Google assistant in voice match. Thanks to some mysterious problem most likely related to huaweis voice assistant (hivoice, yoyo, emy are basically all the same thing). Google assistant voice match is disabled and greyed out for Chinese mainland emui roms. I can say this affect all phones because I have personally tested 5 (mate s, mate 9 pro, p10 plus, P20 pro, mate 20 pro) running emui 4 to emui 9.
No conventional debugging method on Google's forums, from uninstalling to factory reset (short of replacing emui with a new custom rom, I tried that too) can fix this issue.
This issue seemed to have not gained as much attention as it needs as people seems to frequently mistake this for other, easily fixable issues and post their greviences under those posts, and are promptly directed to common, not useful debug steps.
This is a very detrimental problem for an otherwise relatively enjoyable hardware experience, and despite the amount of people experiencing this issue (people post about this a lot in Google's product forums but rarely gets a proper response). There has been no real solution or explanation.
Hi,
I have already posted it in another post. I noticed on my Honor View 10 that there is a connection between the Private Space and the Google Assistant. Whenever I have used the private space and then switched back to the normal account, the Assistant will then click out. It was also reproducible on my phone, but I can not say how it is related. Since the soft and hardware of the Huawei and Honor phones are similar, I thought it helps here. I have now deleted the private space and restarted the phone. After I have not used private space after the last reboot, the assistant works since yesterday without problems.
Regards Ralf.
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FricklerB said:
Hi,
I have already posted it in another post. I noticed on my Honor View 10 that there is a connection between the Private Space and the Google Assistant. Whenever I have used the private space and then switched back to the normal account, the Assistant will then click out. It was also reproducible on my phone, but I can not say how it is related. Since the soft and hardware of the Huawei and Honor phones are similar, I thought it helps here. I have now deleted the private space and restarted the phone. After I have not used private space after the last reboot, the assistant works since yesterday without problems.
Regards Ralf.
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On chinese roms (model AL00 and Al10 huawei) google assistant voice activition is broken in general. Third party apps do not play well with private space, as it is essentially like a sandbox environment.
FricklerB said:
Hi,
I have already posted it in another post. I noticed on my Honor View 10 that there is a connection between the Private Space and the Google Assistant. Whenever I have used the private space and then switched back to the normal account, the Assistant will then click out. It was also reproducible on my phone, but I can not say how it is related. Since the soft and hardware of the Huawei and Honor phones are similar, I thought it helps here. I have now deleted the private space and restarted the phone. After I have not used private space after the last reboot, the assistant works since yesterday without problems.
Regards Ralf.
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Huawei and honor are the same thing, hardware and software. However there is a massive difference in terms of software between mainland China and outside huawei/honor software, including lack of launcher changing, hivoice which replaces Google assistant, lack of location sharing capability as huawei does not use Google location services in China software, as well as more bloatware and less privacy. The screen time management on China roms also activates a Chinese vpn that essentially blocks everything that is also blocked in China, fb, Google the whole shabam.
Hello there, i live in Turkey and i m planning to buy Vivo X80 from Taobao.com
Seems like its Chinese version and i couldn't find any answer if i buy this version will i have bear tons of problems such as connection mobile network, installing banking apps etc. ?
And according to vivo official website, there is no way to install global rom to chinese version. is this true or there are someway as unofficial way?
is there any experiance have you got before such like this?
I have the Vivo X Note, which was released a few weeks before the Vivo X80. They both have the same Chinese Origin OS operating system. Some developers on this forum are working on a method to unlock the bootloader and flash the global FunTouch operating system on the Vivo X70. Once they have finished their work the method should work for other devices using the Origin OS Ocean operating system. As for using the Chinese Origin OS operating system, I'm in Canada where the working language is English, and I haven't had any problems. I connect to the local 5G network and my banking apps and Google Pay work fine. My carrier would not enable VoLTE functions on the phone, but that is because of their policy to only enable VoLTE on devices purchased from them. Most European carriers allow VoLTE on these phones, but if VoLTE is important to you (you need it if you travel to the United States where they have shut down 3G networks) then you should check with your carrier before purchasing the phone. Almost all Google services work on the phone - ie Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, etc., but although you can tap the microphone icon in Google Assistant and then issue it voice commands, it won't respond to "OK Google" voice activation because the phone has its own Chinese voice assistant built-in, which can be disabled, but not replaced. Google Backup, and Google Maps Timeline won't work, but those were the only limitations I've run into. I also found that if you replace the default Vivo Messages app with Google Messages you won't receive notifications when the phone is in dark mode. I replaced the default app with Next SMS and it does receive notifications in dark mode.
I got vivo x fold in the US
And I can tell you almost everything works under CN version ROM
except Android Auto which requires root, currently there is no good solution for rooting VIVO. just let it be I think
I'm thinking of buying the x80 pro but Chinese version ..
tell me android auto does it work for you? for me it is very important that works!
Android Auto, Google Maps history/timeline, Google backup won't work, and although you can tap on the microphone icon and use voice commands in Google Assistant, you can't open it by voice (OK Google). Google Messages notifications don't work in system wide dark mode. Make sure your carrier will enable VoLTE on the phone, some won't.
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How do you buy from taobao? Do they deliver outside china?
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How do you buy from taobao? Do they deliver outside china?
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必须使用国际快递，我是中国人，我在中国
Mod translation: Must use international express, I am Chinese, I am in China
frcraig said:
Android Auto, Google Maps history/timeline, Google backup won't work, and although you can tap on the microphone icon and use voice commands in Google Assistant, you can't open it by voice (OK Google). Google Messages notifications don't work in system wide dark mode. Make sure your carrier will enable VoLTE on the phone, some won't.
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Hi, and with the globlal version will all that works ? thank you!!
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Hi, and with the globlal version will all that works ? thank you!!
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Sorry, I have the Chinese firmware so I'm not sure.
Anyone having Google Wallet not working after the last update? Cn version
frcraig said:
I have the Vivo X Note, which was released a few weeks before the Vivo X80. They both have the same Chinese Origin OS operating system. Some developers on this forum are working on a method to unlock the bootloader and flash the global FunTouch operating system on the Vivo X70. Once they have finished their work the method should work for other devices using the Origin OS Ocean operating system. As for using the Chinese Origin OS operating system, I'm in Canada where the working language is English, and I haven't had any problems. I connect to the local 5G network and my banking apps and Google Pay work fine. My carrier would not enable VoLTE functions on the phone, but that is because of their policy to only enable VoLTE on devices purchased from them. Most European carriers allow VoLTE on these phones, but if VoLTE is important to you (you need it if you travel to the United States where they have shut down 3G networks) then you should check with your carrier before purchasing the phone. Almost all Google services work on the phone - ie Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, etc., but although you can tap the microphone icon in Google Assistant and then issue it voice commands, it won't respond to "OK Google" voice activation because the phone has its own Chinese voice assistant built-in, which can be disabled, but not replaced. Google Backup, and Google Maps Timeline won't work, but those were the only limitations I've run into. I also found that if you replace the default Vivo Messages app with Google Messages you won't receive notifications when the phone is in dark mode. I replaced the default app with Next SMS and it does receive notifications in dark mode. drift boss
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Whenever the system-wide dark mode is activated, Google Messages notifications stop functioning. Check with your service provider to make sure the phone can use VoLTE, as not all of them do.
frcraig said:
I have the Vivo X Note, which was released a few weeks before the Vivo X80. They both have the same Chinese Origin OS operating system. Some developers on this forum are working on a method to unlock the bootloader and flash the global FunTouch operating system on the Vivo X70. Once they have finished their work the method should work for other devices using the Origin OS Ocean operating system. As for using the Chinese Origin OS operating system, I'm in Canada where the working language is English, and I haven't had any problems. I connect to the local 5G network and my banking apps and Google Pay work fine. My carrier would not enable VoLTE functions on the phone, but that is because of their policy to only enable VoLTE on devices purchased from them. Most European carriers allow VoLTE on these phones, but if VoLTE is important to you (you need it if you travel to the United States where they have shut down 3G networks) then you should check with your carrier before purchasing the phone. Almost all Google services work on the phone - ie Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, etc., but although you can tap the microphone icon in Google Assistant and then issue it voice commands, it won't respond to "OK Google" voice activation because the phone has its own Chinese voice assistant built-in, which can be disabled, but not replaced. Google Backup, and Google Maps Timeline won't work, but those were the only limitations I've run into. I also found that if you replace the default Vivo Messages app with Google Messages you won't receive notifications when the phone is in dark mode. I replaced the default app with Next SMS and it does receive notifications in dark mode.
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So glad I found your answer! So regarding the Google map timeline. Since Google map still works on vivo, can I still view the current map timeline if I log in from another platform, like a laptop web browser?
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So glad I found your answer! So regarding the Google map timeline. Since Google map still works on vivo, can I still view the current map timeline if I log in from another platform, like a laptop web browser?
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Good question. I’m travelling right now, but when I’m back to Halifax Wednesday I’ll see if my trip shows up when I sign into Google Maps on my desktop computer.
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Good question. I’m travelling right now, but when I’m back to Halifax Wednesday I’ll see if my trip shows up when I sign into Google Maps on my desktop computer.
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Hey, were you able to see your timeline on Google maps from your desktop browser? Thanks
Just back from a week in Western Canada. I had the Vivo with me and used Google Maps during the trip, but none of it shows up in my Timeline when I sign into Google Maps on my Windows desktop.
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Just back from a week in Western Canada. I had the Vivo with me and used Google Maps during the trip, but none of it shows up in my Timeline when I sign into Google Maps on my Windows desktop.
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Thank you so much for your help! I was definitely not expecting that answer. It is certainly something for me to take in consideration before purchasing. Thanks again!
frcraig said:
I have the Vivo X Note, which was released a few weeks before the Vivo X80. They both have the same Chinese Origin OS operating system. Some developers on this forum are working on a method to unlock the bootloader and flash the global FunTouch operating system on the Vivo X70. Once they have finished their work the method should work for other devices using the Origin OS Ocean operating system. As for using the Chinese Origin OS operating system, I'm in Canada where the working language is English, and I haven't had any problems. I connect to the local 5G network and my banking apps and Google Pay work fine. My carrier would not enable VoLTE functions on the phone, but that is because of their policy to only enable VoLTE on devices purchased from them. Most European carriers allow VoLTE on these phones, but if VoLTE is important to you (you need it if you travel to the United States where they have shut down 3G networks) then you should check with your carrier before purchasing the phone. Almost all Google services work on the phone - ie Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, etc., but although you can tap the microphone icon in Google Assistant and then issue it voice commands, it won't respond to "OK Google" voice activation because the phone has its own Chinese voice assistant built-in, which can be disabled, but not replaced. Google Backup, and Google Maps Timeline won't work, but those were the only limitations I've run into. I also found that if you replace the default Vivo Messages app with Google Messages you won't receive notifications when the phone is in dark mode. I replaced the default app with Next SMS and it does receive notifications in dark mode.
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I’m in Canada as well I was offered to trade in my current phone iPhone 13 Pro Max 256gb for this vivo x80 pro … but after checking this forum I’m actually worried I was offered the CN version snapdragon with Origin OS 3 … I’m fairly comfortable with mods and chines phone owned some in the past but I was wondering in today’s day would the x80 pro still be a reliable phone to use here in canada ?
metbed said:
Hello there, i live in Turkey and i m planning to buy Vivo X80 from Taobao.com
Seems like its Chinese version and i couldn't find any answer if i buy this version will i have bear tons of problems such as connection mobile network, installing banking apps etc. ?
And according to vivo official website, there is no way to install global rom to chinese version. is this true or there are someway as unofficial way?
is there any experiance have you got before such like this?
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Buying a Chinese version of the Vivo X80 from Taobao may cause problems with mobile network connections and installing banking apps. It's true that there is no official way to install a global ROM on a Chinese version, but there may be unofficial methods. It's important to research and consider the risks before making a purchase.
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