Hi everyone,i am in the market for a new phone.
I have been following general reviews of Htc one and Samsung galaxy s4, but in the end i always liked the htc one for its build quality, expecially considering that i owned the Google htc nexus one, that recently broke down.
The problem with the Htc one is the cost. I personally think spending more than 400 euros on a phone is foolish,and both the Htc one and Samsung s4 cost 699 euro, just way too much.I would fear carrying it around, and dropping it, or even scratching in anyway.
and thus i am looking at the Oppo find 5 and its general build quality, great screen,quite powerful, rom support and everything.
And in the other hand, i am also looking at the Huawei Ascend P6 (pictured), which has:
Quadcore 1,5 Ghz
2 gb ram
720 x 1280 pixels (321 ppi)
8 mpx back camera which records 1920x1080 (1080p HD) + 5 mpx frontal
removeable microsd card, and supports microhdsc
Fast mobile data support (4G)
4.7 inches display, (120 g)
2000 mAh battery
for 399 euros.
Considering this, i would like some suggestions or advice on why is the Oppo find 5 better or worse than the other contenders, and what did you like the most about your Find 5, how do you use it.
Things missing in NOTE 7
Everyone wants -
Battery 4500 mAh
Ram 6 GB
C type with Usb 3.1
I would like them to Add -
Bluethooth in Pen so can click picks with it like a remote
Add what you feel is missing
1) Bigger screen
2) Bigger screen
3) Bigger screen
We have been stuck at 5.7" since Note 3, could easily have been up to 6" by now.
Crikey Nexus 6 which came out alongside Note 4 had a 6" screen.
I still have the Note 4 and will be looking at other makes for a 6 inch+ QHD screened phone even if it comes at the expense of loosing the SD card.
Flat scratch proof screen as Moto Z - I don't buy the Edge concept - .
Though body
IR Blaster
6GB Ram
Snapdragon 830-821-823 faster cpu for a more bloated phone.
New UFS Micro SD std instead just uhs (a big miss considering precisely Samsung just introduced the first UFS micro sd to the market) .
I rally don't care about 3.5mm audio jack I'll prefer am bigger battery instead, 4000mah to be happy.
ilordvader said:
Things missing in NOTE 7
Everyone wants
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Who's everyone? Until the tech changes bigger batteries = bigger devices. It's been more than proven people want trimmer and lighter phones. The Note7's waterproof, smaller than the Note5, and has a bigger battery than the Note5 all squeezed in to less space than the S7 Edge because of the silo to accommodate the S Pen. Based on the way Android manages memory, what's the extra 2GB of RAM going to do? The OnePlus 3 has 6GB of RAM and users have a choice of more background apps open and ****ty battery life or vice versa. USB-C and/or 3.1 is a benefit only to those still using cables. The only time I use a cable anymore is to connect my phone to my car because it's an Android Auto requirement; but that's just me. Point is "everyone" wants something different and the 99% of people that buy phones and aren't on XDA don't care about the same things we do or value them differently.
6inch screen
Front firing stereo speakers.
For myself, give me those and the device is perfect.
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Front firing stereo speakers would have been awesome
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I've had the Nwxus 6 for a while now, and while I miss the S-Pen from my Note 2 and 3, it would be very difficult to move to a smaller screen and speaker(s) that are not front-facing.
And if this Note 7 is locked down like the Note 4 (reason why I stopped buying Samsung in the first place), then I'll have to pass on this one as well.
BarryH_GEG said:
Who's everyone? Until the tech changes bigger batteries = bigger devices. It's been more than proven people want trimmer and lighter phones. The Note7's waterproof, smaller than the Note5, and has a bigger battery than the Note5 all squeezed in to less space than the S7 Edge because of the silo to accommodate the S Pen. Based on the way Android manages memory, what's the extra 2GB of RAM going to do? The OnePlus 3 has 6GB of RAM and users have a choice of more background apps open and ****ty battery life or vice versa. USB-C and/or 3.1 is a benefit only to those still using cables. The only time I use a cable anymore is to connect my phone to my car because it's an Android Auto requirement; but that's just me. Point is "everyone" wants something different and the 99% of people that buy phones and aren't on XDA don't care about the same things we do or value them differently.
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Bigger batteries = bigger devices? I am curious where do you come up with these conclusions lol? How about S7 Edge smaller device with bigger battery? Just throwing an example out there.
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-BoneZ- said:
I've had the Nwxus 6 for a while now, and while I miss the S-Pen from my Note 2 and 3, it would be very difficult to move to a smaller screen and speaker(s) that are not front-facing.
And if this Note 7 is locked down like the Note 4 (reason why I stopped buying Samsung in the first place), then I'll have to pass on this one as well.
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Give me a nexus 6 with more internal storage or an sd slot and a note 7 camera and id be all over it lol.
I miss mine actually, that big screen and those speakers are hard to forget lol
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brickedvice said:
Bigger batteries = bigger devices? I am curious where do you come up with these conclusions lol? How about S7 Edge smaller device with bigger battery? Just throwing an example out there.
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S7 Edge doesn't need to make space for the silo to hold the S pen
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S7 Edge doesn't need to make space for the silo to hold the S pen
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Ok. Latest Motorola flagship. Slimmer body, bigger battery. Counts?
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brickedvice said:
Ok. Latest Motorola flagship. Slimmer body, bigger battery. Counts?
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Not really unless I'm missing something. The Note7's waterproof, has a larger display, and a silo for the S Pen and the same size battery. Yet it's shorter and narrower and only .9mm thicker and 6g heavier than the Moto Z Force. Kind of points to Samsung being a master of packaging.
Moto Z = 153.3 x 75.3 x 5.2 mm (6.04 x 2.96 x 0.20 in), 136 g (4.80 oz), 5.5" display, 2,600 mAh battery
Moto Z Force = 155.9 x 75.8 x 7 mm (6.14 x 2.98 x 0.28 in), 163 g (5.75 oz), 5.5" display, 3,500 mAh battery
Note7 = 153.5 x 73.9 x 7.9 mm (6.04 x 2.91 x 0.31 in), 169 g (5.96 oz), 5.7" display, 3,500 mAh battery
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Not really unless I'm missing something. The Note7's waterproof, has a larger display, and a silo for the S Pen and the same size battery. Yet it's shorter and narrower and only .9mm thicker and 6g heavier than the Moto Z Force. Kind of points to Samsung being a master of packaging.
Moto Z = 153.3 x 75.3 x 5.2 mm (6.04 x 2.96 x 0.20 in), 136 g (4.80 oz), 5.5" display, 2,600 mAh battery
Moto Z Force = 155.9 x 75.8 x 7 mm (6.14 x 2.98 x 0.28 in), 163 g (5.75 oz), 5.5" display, 3,500 mAh battery
Note7 = 153.5 x 73.9 x 7.9 mm (6.04 x 2.91 x 0.31 in), 169 g (5.96 oz), 5.7" display, 3,500 mAh battery
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Alright then it looks like Samsung will always have a bright future because their user base is easily satisfied with ridiculous "upgrades".
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brickedvice said:
Alright then it looks like Samsung will always have a bright future because their user base is easily satisfied with ridiculous "upgrades".
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It's all about trade-offs. My bank is one that's signed on for Samsung Pass so I can use the Iris Scanner for banking. That's pretty cool (to me) and it's a smartphone first. Between the Note5 and Note7 I've lost nothing. I've gained waterproofing, a bigger battery, a better camera, a slimmer design, external storage, an iris scanner, a faster more efficient CPU/GPU, more S Pen tools, a curved screen, and an updated UI. It's also the first Samsung device to support USB-C but I'm 95% wireless so that's not a big get for me. I've had every Note since the Note II and over time I've lost external storage, replaceable batteries, FM radio, and an IR blaster. When you add it all up I've gotten far more than I've lost which is why I stick with Samsung.
I get through the day on my Note5 so with the efficiencies of S-820 and the 500 mAh larger battery I'll be better off with the Note7. A bigger battery, at least using today's tech, means a bigger phone. If asked, I'd prefer a smaller footprint over a larger battery. Others may differ. Samsung pulled SD cards last year and brought them back. They obviously misjudged the market when they made that decision. They reversed it this year and S7 sales climbed in a down and saturated market. The S7 Edge with its 3,600 mAh battery accounts for over 50% of all S7-series sales. So people seem OK with that combination of size and battery capacity. The Note7's 3,500 mAh battery is about 2.5% smaller. That's pretty inconsequential because if you go below 5% on either phone they're going to fail over to power save mode and you won't be able to see the screen anyway. If battery size (2,915 mAh on the iPhone 6S+) was such a big deal people wouldn't be buying massive quantities of iPhones which don't even support quick charging 3 years after it was introduced and wireless charging two years later. Apple's about to pull the headphone jack on the iP7. It's a consumer unfriendly move but do you think people will stop buying iPhones because of it?
People want different things and OEMs like Samsung shoot for the middle. Sometimes they fail like with the removal of external storage. Sometimes they win by bringing it back and re-introducing waterproofing. (S7). There's an old adage, "you can't please all the people all the time."
BarryH_GEG said:
It's all about trade-offs. My bank is one that's signed on for Samsung Pass so I can use the Iris Scanner for banking. That's pretty cool (to me) and it's a smartphone first. Between the Note5 and Note7 I've lost nothing. I've gained waterproofing, a bigger battery, a better camera, a slimmer design, external storage, an iris scanner, a faster more efficient CPU/GPU, more S Pen tools, a curved screen, and an updated UI. It's also the first Samsung device to support USB-C but I'm 95% wireless so that's not a big get for me. I've had every Note since the Note II and over time I've lost external storage, replaceable batteries, FM radio, and an IR blaster. When you add it all up I've gotten far more than I've lost which is why I stick with Samsung.
I get through the day on my Note5 so with the efficiencies of S-820 and the 500 mAh larger battery I'll be better off with the Note7. A bigger battery, at least using today's tech, means a bigger phone. If asked, I'd prefer a smaller footprint over a larger battery. Others may differ. Samsung pulled SD cards last year and brought them back. They obviously misjudged the market when they made that decision. They reversed it this year and S7 sales climbed in a down and saturated market. The S7 Edge with its 3,600 mAh battery accounts for over 50% of all S7-series sales. So people seem OK with that combination of size and battery capacity. The Note7's 3,500 mAh battery is about 2.5% smaller. That's pretty inconsequential because if you go below 5% on either phone they're going to fail over to power save mode and you won't be able to see the screen anyway. If battery size (2,915 mAh on the iPhone 6S+) was such a big deal people wouldn't be buying massive quantities of iPhones which don't even support quick charging 3 years after it was introduced and wireless charging two years later. Apple's about to pull the headphone jack on the iP7. It's a consumer unfriendly move but do you think people will stop buying iPhones because of it?
People want different things and OEMs like Samsung shoot for the middle. Sometimes they fail like with the removal of external storage. Sometimes they win by bringing it back and re-introducing waterproofing. (S7). There's an old adage, "you can't please all the people all the time."
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Coming from the S7E the N7 doesn't seem impressive at all to me. I guess if I was coming from the N5 then I would have been impressed. As I said, I get the feeling that these Android companies are holding back on purpose. I wish I could stand iOS, I would have moved to the iPhone 6S Plus in a heartbeat.
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Samsung aren't targeting people who upgraded 6 months ago to the S7, their primary target are majority of ordinary users on a 24 month upgrade cycle (from the Note 4), and enthusiasts who may upgrade from the Note 5, and for both groups I think the Note 7 represents a decent all round upgrade.
In terms of my wishlist, I would have preferred a larger battery even if it meant a thicker chassis.
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Samsung aren't targeting people who upgraded 6 months ago to the S7, their primary target are majority of ordinary users on a 24 month upgrade cycle (from the Note 4), and enthusiasts who may upgrade from the Note 5, and for both groups I think the Note 7 represents a decent all round upgrade.
In terms of my wishlist, I would have preferred a larger battery even if it meant a thicker chassis.
FF
Frostfree said:
Samsung aren't targeting people who upgraded 6 months ago to the S7, their primary target are majority of ordinary users on a 24 month upgrade cycle (from the Note 4), and enthusiasts who may upgrade from the Note 5.
FF
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Says who?
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brickedvice said:
Says who?
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That would be a stupid target market, so... Common sense I guess?
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I'm currently using the LG G3 and I was thinking of upgrading, especially because SD801 devices apparently don't support Nougat. My best candidates currently are the G5 and the Moto Z. Which one is better? I could get the G5 right now for €389, The Moto Z release and price in Europe is unclear for now.
As always it depends...
Just think to two main things:
1) The Moto Z has no 3.5mm Jack
2) The G5 has a bigger battery (2600 vs 2800mAh) which is also removable
After this you have to consider the camera part, the G5's one is one of the best (if not the best) camera of this year, and the display part, the G5 mount a LCD IPS 5.3" and the Moto Z an Amoled 5.5".
In my opinion the G5 wins, so i would advice it over the Moto Z
Another count is the Z Force, but Lenovo said that it will be sold only in US.
I don't really mind the missing headphone jack since an adapter is included.
The removable battery is a big plus, but the power pack on the Moto Z is neat too.
For camera and display, I could go either way.
For the price, the LG is superior, but I guess I'll wait for IFA.
Well, you can't know how good is the adapter, and the battery pack will cost around 90 euros.
Then wait for ifa and decide =)
Moto Z and Z Force seems to be pricey then price will go down after sometime. So it is a No for Moto Z unless they will drop the price:
http://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-droid-edition
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-force-droid-edition
And now, it is Lenovo and not the Moto we used to have before..
LG G5 seems to be fine on its current price tag and no issues like old g4. So it must be fine.
Well, after seeing the official unlocked price, I'm dismissing the Moto Z from my wishlist.
Now, it's the G5 vs the Axon 7 and maybe one of the new Google phones.
Every phone has a compromise. :/